it's. sick. welcome below the show we'll get the real headlines with none of the mersey or if you live out of washington d.c. now the hearings have begun it's peter king's investigation into the radicalization of muslims in america so bring you the latest from capitol hill and we'll look into how this move by washington could increase tensions towards the most of the american community then we're hearing drum beats for war with libya for american politicians and pundits and makes us wonder have we learned nothing from our past

the protests in wisconsin have reached a new level after the g.o.p. passed legislation to strip the unions of their collective bargaining rights without the democrats present for the vote so is this the end or just the beginning for democratic activism and pimco has dropped all of its us bonds car i can't is giving investors their money back do these two know something that we don't and the a.o.l. having to post merger is causing quite a few job casualties but don't worry they have plenty of non-paid writers to fill those spots some are even now protesting the huffington post and we'll find out why details on all those stories and much more but first our top story. today marks the start of the homeland six house homeland security committees hearings on the radicalization of the muslim community of congress and peter king leading the inquisition artie's killing for brings us more on the first day of the hearings.

chairman peter king launching his hearings on the radicalization of muslims in america complete with beefed up security dozens of cameras. dramatic witnesses and someone to blame we just got these extremist invaders from raping the minds of american citizen hearings have received much media attention since they were announced but some say the hearings to look at the underlying causes of muslim radicalization in the united states including the role u.s. foreign policy in the arab and muslim world has played in muslim feelings towards america but some muslim. say it's u.s. support for oppressive regimes in the middle east. and interventions in iraq and afghanistan that have radicalized them the minute they kick at the knife of slaughter they're accused as being violent when the actual perpetrators of violence are the ones that are i'm occupying lands like afghanistan and iraq right now the american empire others praise king for braving the political correctness firestorm they syrians ignited before they even began stop running around looking to be a victim stop looking to be offended. and believe muslims are trying to take over

america the expressions carpers sure when you're creepy or islam creepy and the answer is yes i mean again if you come to this country you come for everything it offers but to that there's kind of a receptive and there and you come to. ingratiate yourself and immerse yourself in what america is and america isn't but even los angeles county sheriff lee baca was skeptical of cain's accusations of a lack of cooperation with law enforcement when i made critical outreach to the community after nine eleven i was overwhelmed by the number of muslims who are ready and willing to connect with law enforcement muslim americans accusations as efforts to divide their community and spread the kind of fear and mistrust in law enforcement the hearings were designed to combat all this is done in suit stoke further hatred i know muslims that no longer go to their mosque because they're

afraid they're going to be turned in by the f.b.i. and shift the burden to muslims themselves i don't understand why it has become my personal responsibility to the police based community i'm an american and isn't it enough that i am a law abiding productive position and this is just the first in a series of hearings king plans to hold on the radicalization of muslims in america but critics say that the accusations have got cooperating with law enforcement that have been levied not just against muslim americans but against activists in peace movements as well. are an effort to divide them and discredit human ford art the washington d.c. . hearings on muslim radicalization have now manifest it they are happening as we speak so it's no longer a question of will this divide communities it's already doing just that i was representative peter king may try to argue that this is a real threat of the opposition is simply too politically correct to bring up perhaps he and his supporters are the ones that are too blinded to confront this

country's past the atrocities that it's committed against its own citizens when marginalizing certain groups to acknowledge that it's not just muslims they kill american citizens here to discuss it with me are the giuliani reporter and blogger for think progress an attorney jordan secular director of policy at the american center for law and justice john thank you both for being here today. is this is this the new form of mccarthyism is this the new red scare that we're seeing right now in america. i don't think so when i was at the hearing room today you see muslims testify you see family members who have had a child radicalized kids killed there one of the visual you testified. there's someone on a shooting spree another killed in somalia these were mostly testifying i think what you saw happening and the idea of this hearing is to empower other american muslims to speak out on this issue so that it's not just dominated by groups with a as eric holder said trouble history like the council on american islamic relations who has got people in jail on terror charges they have domestic terrorist that have

been part of their organization so instead let's get to these muslims and something dr jasser jessa who's becoming a well known name now in the conservative world said which i thought was interesting is that many american muslims who left these countries dominated by islamic law that wanted freedom for their kids the reason they don't associate they don't speak out as much is because they don't want to be a part of an islamic organization in america because that's a bad thing coming from where the countries they came from being part of some kind of group that wants to mix religion state as they say about that if you think this is going to make muslims in america white to cooperate with authorities more or quite the opposite are they being singled out here well first of all i think we need that we need to establish some ground rules here i mean first of all are muslims cooperated with law enforcement the answer is for the most part yes the last ten al qaeda related plots the united states seven of them were broken up based on intelligence provided by the muslim community forty percent of. the united states are broken up based on intelligence provided by the muslim community it seems to me that muslims already are cooperating so rather than focusing on them

and singling them out and claiming like john does his organization by the way is him in to his family member that's about as many muslims as he represents or are you saying is that a muslim because that's what's happening to all these muslims who participate other muslims or other liberal groups are saying they're not muslim enough because they happen to agree with this i think that's that's a really right you know look about my community come from a christian community we've got the whole political spectrum covered i mean conservative group there's liberal christian groups why can't they be the same thing in muslim but if you're talking about some. that's you know extremism radicalization within america why does it have to be only within the muslim community why can't we talk about it in america as a whole you know if you look at certain statistics out there you'll see that terror plots since nine eleven there have been more of those planned by right wing extremists than there have been by muslims where there's a line up for a living a couple things one like white supremacy is not new in the united states or america it's a problem we've dealt with since our history is something we still have to deal with these many stream they were ignoring i was when i you know larry i don't i don't

think it's accepted anywhere in any mainstream community to have those kind of use and carry out attacks like that the same time this thread which is not foreigners trying to sneak into the border and get on airplanes and question abilities but it's actually americans like al locky who are recruiting other americans to kill americans is a new phenomenon that didn't happen nationally right after nine eleven so this is a brand new threat that america is facing we're trying to deal with it in a way that's empowering most not some encouraging king was bringing together people there was lead there the sheriff talking about what he's done why wouldn't muslims want these stories from people instead of groups that have really bad records when it comes i mean when the big islamic groups here in the united states just have horrible records with age experience he'll empowered as a muslim by these hearings you know i don't know and the reason i just it was not to attack his faith is personal and i respect that the reason i brought him up is b.r.d. if you did was that the reason they realize i brought him up is because he runs a nonprofit sort of designed to say that muslims aren't cooperating with police

whereas we all are i mean i i work with the department of homeland security for two years doing role playing helping train people to catch terrorism and one thing that we always said here tess was that we were happy to have the muslim community working with us and we were happy to not profile on race or religion and we went and we were worried about animal extremists in atlanta we were worried about why simply because they have been more attacks and plots by whites agreements that anti-government anti-tax extremists i do have an almost double i do not know why isn't that something you do you want. and then he has passed on the older thread we have i forget about those wrestling who are willing to listen to the table one talk about what they're doing that's good these this is not the only hearing second to actually talk about a new issue i mean we know that their animal rights groups we know that their white supremacy groups america this is brand new and you don't just have a hearing generally on all radical it was a one half hour hearing it's not like they spent three weeks and what an every day talking about an islamic issues for hours they'll have subcommittees all followups with the same time it's most of them and i think right away we see the attack on

the faith of those the cooperate and he's kind of hearings came right out of his mouth the first statement he made dr jasser he doesn't represent anyone the muslim community i think that's that's a bad thing that has to change just like every other religious community has great ideas or your statement to say that three muslims do not represent every single thing that will get matt listen just care represent every muslim american because if they do the american people populating the the thought of muslims are not good right now in the united states and is only thirty seven percent people and if you think i'm sorry something like this our congressional hearings on radicalization within the muslim american community really going to help change pre-sale seems like even that more people like dr jasser on cable news and care spokesman yes i don't think i don't think that you are laying out your jessa here by nonprofit terrorists important people like me or the people that broke out who have broken out the last seven in ten al qaeda plots who have been muslims who are speaking out and talking to communities one of king's own witnesses today as somali american came and said that somalis need to start getting credit for their work they were

doing with the f.b.i. to expose i think these and i mean i think i mean if i had to have it so why is that a bad story to get out instead of coming through the amounts of care get it out in a congressional hearing it's formal it's a good setting american people are focused on it and we have mostly because we're hearing about good king has stated the king has stated also it's like saying that eighty percent of american mosques are control iraq because my saying that the american muslim community isn't cooperate with law enforcement any clearly is and the fact that he this is a man who who supported to. as on in the past he was a vocal supporter of the ira as they were killing people including americans they killed an american citizen in london this is a man who historians here in the past and who are you making have a spokesman going to hear if this is a man that is clearly out there telling us also adds that is a lying then how is that helping to educate the general or actually if you listen to what he cited was he heard from a mom at a committee hearing in congress who said yes eighty percent or maybe he shouldn't listen to islamic radicals and i said yes ok so that's how i actually say the care and it's a fact it's a real organization it's

a saudi fighters organization that owns the trust of most mosque in america that's no national islamic trust and some organization if you want to make this movie or the cia let's talk about of the american muslims who. bring us there let's. talk about people like me who work with law enforcement is all this terrorism is to give voices to muslims who aren't affiliate nationally with they do maybe not have a national platform they don't get funding from saudi arabia they want to voice they can talk about good things we have there is when is that why are you so very sensitive about medium is why does the muslim american community have to come out and defend itself in capitol hill you know on capitol hill as you know here i deplore the military facility right outside of d.c. another one tried to blow up a christmas tree bombing one who what would you do about it mom come in here you know every time that christian does something wrong every time that we had to that's part of the christian community there where you know you're right we're going to hear it lawfare is we're ignoring the guy with the backpack yawn and then migration doesn't disassociate the mediately with people so it's

a muslim community and we are there i get on every single person of that one has every single radical right and newsboy says i will tell you this goes forward you get more people i talk to a gesture of hope more most encouraging today i don't want you know my nonprofit's like gas or talking from the long profit i want the people who are the nonprofit i work for i work i hate to say that i was pretty exhausted all because what is was it done to fight terrorism to see work with law enforcement is now the issue is not afraid to talk he is no he's not welfare out there defamer. what is by saying that we're not cooperate with law enforcement with but then have you back you know that you were i'm going to side of al qaeda plots no muslims have it now i don't see what they mean most launched by most other muslims so this is the problem with anyone who want to tell me only the right of these learnings are doing it in order to find me that i don't really need as a way of all types like it was not really want to share the pain and i tell you i do share i have to write about it i'm right now ok all of us for joining us but you know i think like a lot of people are saying what these hearings might to you is divide the community divide the american population divide the muslim community and clearly it's already

happened most americans support are we have much more ahead on tonight's shell beating the drum for another war as the mainstream media helping politicians and pundits make their case for the rest of it was a no fly zone over libya so i we're going to dive into that topic for lawrence wilkerson retired u.s. army colonel and former chief of staff to colin powell still with us. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think. the one well. we never got the chance to keep safe get ready because freedom.

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politicians have been pushing for stablish in a no fly zone this means bombing libyan air defense systems runways and shooting down libyan aircraft and aerial invasion something most americans don't realize and most libyans don't want people in the entire region remember what happened with a no fly zone in iraq hundreds of civilians were killed by the enforcement of that no fly zone that hasn't changed some high ranking officials have taken it so far as to joke about an attack on the african country but it is libya any of america's business and why not let the arab world fend for itself there is absolutely no. possible justification for the united states or even the e.u. to get involved in libya there's just nothing in their charters or just there's nothing that would justify this it's in it a civil war in a different country in which the details are very murky which could america be a hop skip and

a jump away from another war the white house is now saying it will wait for the year when to lead the way in dealing with libya but with the habit of getting need deep into other nations affairs will america be able to resist the temptation this could be a rerun of iraq this is a rerun of humanitarian and very very dangerous there is nothing for the west despite warning signs flashing some pics first believe history is about to repeat itself iraq and afghanistan they warn sucked the us much further into war than first anticipated but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting different results well in the case of the united states it would be doing the same thing dozens and dozens of times of trying to get different results in the united states. hasn't won a war decisively since the end of world war two upholding human rights and establishing democracy have often been pretenses for america's invasions officially

these are also the meat concerns for libya but the underlying reality this is about oil and if the united states can go in militarily but claimed to be going in only for humanitarian purposes purposes the american people will wyatt some also see hypocrisy in the calls for humanitarian intervention nobody really brought this up during rwanda but of course rwanda didn't have any oil with two other american wars being fought in the muslim world death tolls continue to rise. apart from the human cost the u.s. is running up a huge warfare tab considering the fact that we have fifty four percent of the federal tax dollars going into defense and into the destruction of afghanistan and iraq and you have to really wonder how crazy this country is and how willing the american people are to foot the bill both the europeans and the americans are facing huge budget deficits military overstretch it's very it's going to be very

hard to explain to people why they can't have their pensions and why they're losing their jobs but there's enough money to throw into a military intervention in a country that is far away and is minding its own business and minding its own business is what many want the u.s. to do but the whole world doesn't have the stomach for it anymore the u.s. seems to have chosen a weak and see approach hoping the united nations will lead the way but with the u.s. unsanctioned invasion of iraq still fresh in mind many fear its support within the international community is not found the u.s. would act regardless if that's in turkey not artsy new york. and make no mistake about it we are now hearing the drumbeat for war and it's coming from both. sides of the political aisle so is everybody gone completely crazy we're broke our resources are stretched too thin and this is not our fight or is this just another example that we've become so addicted we just don't know how to do how to do

business any other way around the world when we discuss it is lawrence wilkerson former chief of staff to colin powell. lawrence thanks so much for being here tonight now i want to ask you something is it inconsistent for obama to come out and say that khadafi must step down but then not want to make that happen with any military option because this is what of course some of the his war hawks are now saying i don't think so i think rather there's rhetoric especially from the bully pulpit of the powerful to. i think he was a little in congress because just a few years ago i could say months we were welcomed welcoming the prodigal son back condi rice was having lunch with him and tony blair was having dinner with him and so for now he's more prodigal than he is son and we are disturbed but he's also killing people his own people and he's doing it in the creation of a horrific way so i think diplomacy is rhetoric and in this case i think strong

words can have an effect now like i mentioned this is coming you know from both sides of the aisle that have cars john mccain saying that we should intervene right away then at the same time we have john kerry saying that a no fly zone should be implemented and both men seem to have never met a tyrant they didn't want to bomb of late i was happy you mentioned that. i feel like no matter what we just want to bomb everybody we don't know how to do it any differently i mean john kerry said that you know this isn't going to be a long term thing if the outcome is what we desire but what i can't figure out is what exactly that outcome is that we desire with the overall goal here is going to be a long term thing in saigon area there in ten years later and fifty eight thousand dead americans and they will have me and did north vietnamese proved otherwise this is a civil war that's what it was in vietnam also intervening in a civil war is very. even if you know the sides in this case we only know one side we know gadhafi side and even though we did give him a welcome back we know what authority is we know that was essentially for money. we

don't know what's on the other side we don't know what the resolution will be the french can go the british can fly n.s.a.'s team in them get embarrassed by having it captured we have all these kind of contacts but we really don't know what the other side consists of yet and to go in in a whole hog way and support that other side and then be responsible for what we produce by supporting other side could have some very bad consequences of course because that if we get involved there for the ones to intervene and like the centuries since i've been responsible then one of the ones that's going to be our fault no matter how we've already got a big bull's eye on our back on our front on our sides and everything else for people in that region in particular i'll just ask for another writers or not even say are you going to here's another matter a serious matter i know there's a world where it's i know it's the ninth maybe the temp that's light sweet crude it's not sour oil it's everybody covets it that the europeans can only refine that kind of a wall so it is important in

a strategic sense for here's another issue. jeddah and what's happening in saudi arabia right now what's happening in bahrain what's happening in yemen if this starts to unfold as it's unfolding in libya right now or even reasonably like it's unfolding or if you know words forces begun to be the central play then what are we going to do it for in libya saudi arabia is far more important in terms of its assets rust to newer puts out six million barrels per day last time i checked that's it so if we get if we're going to do something in the region with force we better wait and see where we should do it because we do not have limitless but we're all saudi arabia is seeing protests right now tomorrow's going to be a day of rage and say the saudis even opened fire on their own people so now what are our next steps are we going to come out and come down. with this move are we going to start shouting for a no fly zone if that continues when saudi arabia would be quite a different undertaking in terms of u.s.

foreign policy and maybe look sort of as the as the precursor for it because that's where our largest fleet headquarters is now fifth fleet that's where we have a lot of facilities five hundred thousand shia which is about seventy percent of that small country's population and we're going to side with the monarch. this is a dangerous situation dangerous in a really fundamental strategic sort of way you will five dollars a gallon gas six dollars a gallon gasoline is this is something we need to keep our powder dry for and i agree with secretary clinton if the u.n. security council can pass a resolution that says we'll stay in offshore and from essentially carrier battle groups make sure nobody flies in the first time we shoot a libyan plane down that'll put it on the ground they won't fly anymore and if they want to do some kind of very limited operation like that sanctioned by the united nations then ok but anything bigger than that we're just asking for problems and i wonder you know what happens let's say that if there is an american casualty in all of this that we have to avenge this american casualty event it becomes more of

a long term situation it's actually i think even more serious than that because only the chinese as i understand it right now floating every ship they had in the mediterranean have and back away to their twenty two thousand noncombatants there are still many noncombatants in there turks by additions he gyptian so maybe americans french british you're right we wind up killing some of them too and once we start suppressing air defense could off he's not stupid his generals are not stupid they will move the air defense next to the mosque next to the orphanage next to the school hospital and will be bombing schools and hospitals so this is not is easy as some of these armchair military officers say it is well i definitely don't think they can get off he's going to have some doubt this response here but i for one am all for the caution when can you just imagine if john mccain were our president today i was out all day and i didn't vote for not only would we be a war with libya we'd be at war with iran with north korea by now or we would have just gone their way and when i was there every problem in the world is unable you

are a hammer that's right that's john mccain and i thank you so much for joining us tonight thanks for having. ok it's time for show and tell on tonight's program about last time we told you that robert gates made a surprise visit to afghanistan to analyze the originally proposed troop withdrawal and twenty fourteen we want to know if you think that it's time for the u.s. to leave the country or if we should stick around and rebuilt so here's what some of you had to say on facebook we heard from michael davis and he said believe rebuilding is just a nice way to say occupy richard mendoza greece you says it's time to leave lives are being wasted in this very instant john to say in response we cut money for the american public programs but have unlimited funds to rebuild other selective countries how about working on rebuilding the usa for a change and grayson for says see you later let's get out n.g.o.s are just

profiteering on rebuilding and nothing is getting done anyway but in all honesty will probably stay and have a presence just like our over nine hundred other places around the world now lazarus kaito tweeted his response saying troops should be replaced with un peacekeepers and community development and aid workers so seems like everybody is basically on the same page with this issue they're saying that the us should get out and the sooner the better we thank you for your responses and here's our next topic of discussion and saudi arabia the government is working hard to keep any attempts of protesting like the kind we've seen from other arab countries from happening there and from growing so police have already opened fire on a route and many fear that the violence towards the people is only going to get worse so we want to know how you think the u.s. government's going to react so let us know what you think what will the u.s. response if the government of saudi arabia violently violently cracked down on their protesters you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and who

knows your response just might make it on air now still to come tonight you want to be an intern for. charlie sheen and i were calling out the thousands of people who do want to tweet the embattled star in articles i'm segments on what's next or was on set the g.o.p.'s push for a bill that would strip unions of their collective bargaining rights for their move ahead or that this just in the rights of big of the left i'll speak of and it is fair enough and that's. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions break through it's already been made who can you trust no one who is your view with the global mission a region where we had a state controlled capitalism is called sessions when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more.