if. so you. would very. well it's a job many in wisconsin are disapproving of so as the labor war battles continue is the rest of the country watching exhale of two americas in wisconsin. and dumping debts as the u.s. deficit hits record numbers is investing with wall street a risky business some of the world's top investors think yes. we've got these extremist. minds american citizens tears and fears on capitol hill so what exactly

will this congressional hearing on the radicalization of muslims lead to and is it a flashback to mccarthyism. was it. and as the next chapter continues to unfold in libya put it feature strong u.s. role or has the u.s. already on its last. thursday march tenth seven pm in washington d.c. and christine for sound and watching our team i want to start now with some breaking news the moment many people have been waiting for and many others dreaded in the state capital of wisconsin this afternoon lawmakers there passed a controversial budget repair bill that strips the rights of collective bargaining by public sector workers the vote passed fifty three to forty two some calling it

yet another surprise vote a lot of this legislation heads to the governor's desk the labor war in wisconsin and the tension there now heating up and plans. for a general strike could now be in the works as well i'm here to talk about the implications of this is robert craig executive director of citizen action of wisconsin robert first question for you real simple once we see happen today well there was we had a hold up in the process because the senate democrats the upper house had left the state medical or m for existing that needed to come from constitution to have a vote on a fiscal matter last night all the sudden late afternoon the republicans with the direct budgetary part of the bill and put forward just the part that's that's like the bargaining rights which they defended as a budget issue but they now say are not is not physical the meeting didn't have the requisite twenty four hour notice they rammed it through and it went through the lower house the assembly today the senate yesterday so it's a law unless it's overturned in the courts wow i want to talk about some of the

images we saw coming out of the capitol today people literally being dragged down by police you know there's been some back and forth in terms of who's been allowed into the capitol building and people snuck in overnight they allowed them in today and then in order to actually take this vote let his vote take place they actually got some people out of the way i want to also play for you something we saw one of the republican lawmakers returning to the building. the no the third no but you read the news the day. all right so he wants to vote and he's saying let us do our job this is america you want those who've been protesting for days and weeks who also say you know don't strip workers' rights because you know what this is america is very different two

different versions of what america is what's going on here with such different viewpoints or there's no doubt passions are running extremely high i mean you wouldn't have thousands of people taking the streets are three weeks right without a right of workers to have unions and. didn't wasn't important to a lot of people in wisconsin much more than people just before this controversy i think they got to even higher pitched today because of the tactics the republicans used to all of a sudden got stripped put a new bill forward that didn't require any democrat senators to vote for it and then not having the requisite notice so there was a real idea that this was a dirty trick and so that's what caused some of those more tense confrontations but over the last three weeks the protesters have been remarkably peaceful it's been a model of democracy but part of the outrage is that with confidence traditionally this very open state where anyone can testify with a capital the people's house is always open and that's gone by the wayside by the tactics of governor walker and his supporters in the legislature who is more

american in this situation and i think the protest is fundamentally american to decide what the protest movement is done to come out and take to the streets to block an unjust action is the most american thing you can do i think getting in the way and also obviously i think workers' rights are american but i think to do it the way they've done it is really tarnished with concentrated taishan so i would say that the american quotient is on the protesters and certainly what we've seen robert has been unprecedented over the last few weeks images from. many people never thought that they would see in this country you know egypt libya tunisia you know they're greece it's fine but recently some of this happening here certainly a big deal but i want to talk about some things that are starting to come out in terms of why this happened in terms of why governor walker did this and why we may start to see this more and not because of collective bargaining rights themselves some people are saying this is an attempt to destroy the unions to make the president to make a presidential election in two thousand and twelve go a different way so that president obama does not win the state of wisconsin have

you heard this yeah i don't think it's a question that there is a national strategy for part of the right but this country basing public employee unions at the state local level teachers unions state employee unions is the last bastion of organized workers in this country because we have lost the industrial unions through outsourcing be industrialization over the last thirty years and they are core supporters of the democratic party so this is a way to try to remove worker power and make it less likely that person obama will be elected or any other democrats will be elected at the state or national level so this is less about collective bargaining that about a power grab i think we'll have really much less unfettered corporate domination of the public agenda if we remove the last bastion of organized worker strength in the united states and just really briefly i know there's been talk of a general strike happening next what's your prediction on what we're going to see next in wisconsin that's very difficult because drugs are illegal passions are strong enough but i think it may be funneled into these recall elections to change the nature of the legislature to recall the republican senators who get this and

then potentially to recall governor walker when that is available next year certainly something keep our eyes on always exciting especially when we see the kind of images that we saw coming out of the state capital today robert craig executive director of citizen action wisconsin. well why are some of the world's biggest investors jumping ship from u.s. stocks and bonds the bill gross of pimco who runs the world's largest bond fund has dumped u.s. treasuries and billionaire hedge fund manager carl icahn is giving investors their money back and talking about the possibility of another market crisis so what do they know that we don't and why my ben bernanke and the federal reserve be to blame r t financial correspondent moralists are joins me now with more from new york. hi there lauren let's talk about what's going on with these investors and you know i guess we'll start with bill gross why is he dumping government bonds and why isn't even a big deal. ok so bill gross last week came out with

a report saying that the end of quantitative easing number two which is supposed to wrap up at the end of june it's the government's buyback program for federal grants or government bonds treasuries he said when that it's going to be d.-day so at that time it got a lot of attention that people didn't know you know is talking his book it's rhetoric although they have a great research team it has a great track record people didn't really know if this was just posturing while it turns out it wasn't so now it's been revealed that in fact has dumped all of its government related bonds showing that they do not believe that the this market is going to do well or be sustained once the federal government the federal reserve pulls out of it why this is a big deal is because i mean this is the largest bond fund in the world it also has the best track record over the last fifteen years of any so bill gross of but also very connected to the u.s. government and he's influence policy he's believed to be pretty close to knowing something like if there would be

a third quantitative easing ground which this looks like he doesn't believe that's going to be the case so all of these are very influential as far is where this very powerful investor thinks the entire u.s. treasury bond market is headed i think lauren and it's important to sort of connect these dots and talk a little bit about quantitative easing how does that easing to what could all this have to do with icons concern about a market crisis i mean how does the stock market tie into all of this. ok the the way that the stock market ties into this one of the things that i can cited was uncertainty over the market for the last few years and you cited a potential market crisis when it comes to stocks one of the ways that quantitative easing is involved in this uncertainty in these stocks solutions is that people believe analysts believe that quantitative easing his caused stock prices to go up because when the government buys all of these bonds from banks and financial firms government bonds treasuries and trade them for cash it infuses all of this cash

into the financial system and so investors go around and they buy things and one of those things that they've been buying is stocks so this is inflated stock prices so a lot of people think that stock prices are due for a correction that's the way analysts put it now in plain english that means they think stock prices are due to go down are due to drop and with uncertainty about whether or not the federal government will continue to pump money into the system whether there would be a q e three bill gross thinking there's not i mean there's a lot of uncertainty and stock prices are believed to have been boosted because of punted easing so they could come down without that that factor in the system it seems like in this financial game of chance there are some players here who really think they know what the best move is to make max let's of course though talk about the big picture i mean any ideas with the worst case scenario is that people should be thinking about right now. i mean the worst case scenario in the blog for example

that revealed this change in pimco is holding zero hedge they say if bill gross thinks that there's not going to be a quantitative easing three if there is pimco selling their position in u.s. treasury securities and there is no fact in facts and no quantitative easing three this is trouble i get out of bonds and u.s. securities and u.s. stocks all together time to panic so that's the worst case scenario that people are pointing to is really another crisis the financial correspondent laura lister from the financial capital of the world new york city of course well from those worries on wall street to an emotional day on capitol hill as the homeland security committee launched its hearing on the radicalization of muslims are killing ford was there and has more. want to be committee on homeland security. chairman peter king launching his hearings on the radicalization of muslims in america complete with beefed up security dozens of cameras zapruder

a dramatic witness and someone to blame we will stop these extremist the dangers from rape in the minds of american citizen hearings have received much media attention since they were announced but sensitive hearing still to look at the underlying causes of muslim radicalization in the united states including the role u.s. foreign policy in the arab and muslim world has played in muslim feelings towards america but some muslims say it's us support for oppressive regimes in the middle east. and interventions in iraq and afghanistan that have radicalized them the minute they kick at the knife of sort or they're accused as being violent when the actual perpetrators of violence are the ones that are i'm occupying my hands like afghanistan and iraq right now the american empire others praise king for braving the political correctness firestorm hearings ignited before they even began to start running around looking to be a victim stop looking to be a friend of ours and believe muslims are trying to take over america the

expressions carpers shari'a creed or islam creep and the answer is yes i mean again if you come to this country you come for everything it offers but to that there's kind of a receptive and there and you can't. in great shape yourself in immerse yourself in what america is and america isn't but even los angeles county sheriff lee baca was skeptical of king's accusations of a lack of cooperation with law enforcement but i mean critical outreach to the community after nine eleven i was overwhelmed by the number of muslims who are ready and willing to connect with law enforcement muslim americans seeking accusations as efforts to divide their communities and spread the kind of fear and mistrust in law enforcement hearings were designed to combat down. stoke further hatred i know was that no longer go to their mosque because they're afraid they're going to be turned in by f.b.i. and shift the burden to muslims themselves i don't understand why it has become my

personal responsibility to police this community i'm an american and even enough that i am a law abiding productive position this is the birth in a series of your plans to hold on to radicalization of muslims in america but critics say that the accusations of not cooperating with law enforcement that have been levied not just against muslim americans but against activists in peace movements as well are an effort to divide them and discredit you and ford washington d.c. . so the question is one of these hearings bring about what will be the outcomes both short and long term earlier i had a great debate with brian becker national coordinator for answer coalition and tony cats he's the host of the conversation with tony katz on p.j. t.v. dot com now ryan told me he thinks the ultra right is using all the right code words to stir fear the religious lee profiled people not because of something they've done because of how they look or what they pray to or because of the color

of their skin or from their ethnic identity if you protest against that if you say that that's discrimination if that's targeting it's kind of hysteria. then you're accused of political correctness now these are the codewords of the ultra right right now in america and there's a great danger that people face what is it danger they can't find jobs they're losing their homes there's high unemployment there's growing poverty peter king those in beijing that probably consider a version like many of the other republicans let's look at outward for an enemy when the real threat the people have is something quite different and yet this becomes a convenient scapegoating as it has throughout history tony is this the politics of diversion here. i would say that unemployment is high and all of those issues are things that have to be addressed but i think we as americans can handle a couple of things at the same time this is his committee this is her is his purview he's certainly right to discuss the conversation this dream that somehow

since we're all multiculturalists and no one society is better than another society doesn't work and start cosy prove it and cameron prove that angela merkel proved it we should at least be honest in having a conversation and what is the p.c. side say because they are p.c. they say if you have a hearing discussing radicalized muslims you'll incite radicalized muslims to kill you well right now anyway and i go on to say should know about setting them right now ignorant people who don't know the facts who don't understand what's really going on the country are with up against muslims we see this all over the country there's a lot of violence going on against muslims is that a form of care or is it a form of terror tony when when innocent muslims are targeted when their mosques are burned when the qur'an is burned shut in a form of terrorism worse than where they go here only where the great heroes by peter are going about stuff like that because that's what's really happening well tony let me ask you this you know one of the main concerns i no matter what side of the argument you're on is that this is going against the constitution that specifically targeting a group is going against the freedom of religion you know

a lot of people i especially when you've already what freedoms have been abridged what if there is a lot of there was some type of there was hearings about rand paul jews or radical christians would what if there was a whole week of hearings you think there would be a big outcry is ongoing about the freedoms tony and you know that this ferguson why how do you group c. is being targeted because of their religion that's. i'm going to talk i have a.b.c. that puts together a television show called good christian bitches i think i can honestly say christians have been attacked and not in america and muslims are not being rounded up muslims are not being targeted that is the great lie told by great law. no actually congress is not. willing to out of course not sai agents but only one president is and synagogues trying to entrap young angry people who are against us foreign policy to say something that they can hook them on a conspiracy that's happening in every line here on the united states conversation

because you as a communist get exposed. not just communists the whole scary world is coming out let's talk about it and the implications i'm talking about you not to iraq i'm. proud social zirconium guess what it's not illegal in the united states only let me get in here and it's not illegal to have an alternative station in the united states brian well i decided to illegally disappear just calling things by their real right name religious profiling and racial profiling is unconstitutional it's illegal it's discriminatory it's in it's politics are you guys i want to talk about you're wrong but this hearing will lead to some of the impacts of this hearing going to have not just what's coming out of it not just sort of the subject matter on the agenda but the implications long term brian what are your concerns i think what's going to happen is you're going to take a lot of people in the united states who get the message from the government from high elected officials it's ok to target people not for what they've done but for who they are what they believe in another words targeting arab americans and

muslims who have already been subjected to great amounts of violence great amounts of persecution who have been rounded up contrary to tony's assertions and who right now are the biggest source of discrimination in the country so we have to recognize that when these kind of hearings take place they create a political climate a political atmosphere that allows more violence to take place against innocent muslim people and that's what's likely to happen all right tony. well i'm hoping that what happens from this is that it's the muslim community a tremendous you know as peter king is said and some people in that in that clip you played earlier said look at their lives doing their thing they're the ones who should want to aggressively and desire to root out the most radical elements that believe in the sharia that believe in the caliphate and believe in doing harm to the free and thinking world all around the world and i feel really it was a. ration is a good rating and it's not something to be scared of like brian is you know you have to be able to engage in the reality radicalized islam and write

a lot radicalized muslims are causing harm around the world always a colorful conversation here at r.t. that was brian becker national coordinator for the answer coalition and tony katz host of the conversation with tony kaplan p.j. t.v. dot com. and of course we've got to remember it's not just chaos and capitol hill that's small in comparison to some of what we're seeing chaos and violence overseas and libya and now more than ever the chap in the next chapter there remains uncertain and the discussion has now turned to what the u.s. government should do any politician contemplating whether or not and how to get involved but as our she's on a sassy turkey now reports many are hoping that the u.s. will stay as far away from the events and in libya as possible. civil war blurs the outline of libya's future app well the u.s. weaves its arjun's on the role it shifts in the chaos some war loving politicians have been pushing for stablish in

a no fly zone this means bombing libyan air defense systems runways and shooting down there be an aircraft an aerial invasion something most americans don't realize and most libyans don't want people in the entire region remember what happened with the no fly zone in iraq hundreds of civilians were killed by the enforcement of that no fly zone that hasn't changed some high ranking officials have taken it so far as to joke about an attack on the african country but it is a libya any of america's business and why not let the arab world fend for itself there is absolutely no. possible justification for the united states or even the e.u. to get involved in libya there's just nothing in their charters or just there's nothing that would justify this it's an civil war in a different country in which the details are very murky which could america be a hop skip and a jump away from another war the white house is now saying it will wait for the

when to lead the way in dealing with libya but with the habit of getting need deep into other nations affairs will america be able to resist the temptation this could be a rerun of iraq this is a rerun of humanitarian. and very very dangerous. for the west despite warning signs flashing some experts believe history is about to repeat itself iraq and afghanistan they warn suck the us much further into war then first anticipated the definition of insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting different results well in the case of the united states it would be doing the same thing dozens and dozens of times in trying to get different results in the united states. hasn't won a war decisively since the end of world war two upholding human rights and establishing democracy have often been pretenses for america's invasions officially these are also the meat concerns for libya but the underlying reality this is about

oil and if the united states can go in militarily but claim to be going in only for humanitarian purposes purposes the american people will buy it also see good talk recy in the calls for humanitarian intervention nobody really brought this up during rwanda but of course rwanda didn't have any oil with two other american wars being fought in the muslim world death tolls continue to rise. apart from the human cost the u.s. is running up a huge warfare tab considering the fact that we have fifty four percent of federal tax dollars go into the fence and into the destruction of afghanistan and iraq and you have to really wonder how crazy this country is and how willing the american people are to foot the bill both the europeans and the americans are facing huge budget deficits military overstretch it's very it's going to be very hard to

explain to people why they can't have their pensions and why they're losing their jobs but there's enough money to throw into a military intervention a country far away and is minding its own business and minding its own business is what many want the u.s. to do but the whole world doesn't have the stomach for it anymore the u.s. seems to have chosen a weak and see approach hoping the united nations will lead the way with the u.s. unsanctioned invasion of iraq still fresh in mind many fear of support within the international community is not found the u.s. would act regardless of party new york it was also reported the white house is now saying it will wait for the united nations to lead the way in dealing with libya i'm. much of the time that we have heard gives us an impression that a no fly zone at the very least is on the table i want to go to hartford connecticut and speak to the tipper son professor and director of international studies at trinity college and everyday i what do you make of all this president

obama saying you know i'm going to let the u.n. to make the first move here but certainly a no fly zone is on the table people have been talking about it. a lot of people are talking about a lot of things but it's very interesting that the need to meet it is the french and the british who are pushing for a sort of semi what they called military minimal military intervention and it is the united states with germany that are trying to hold them back what nato has agreed for is for the washrooms to move closer to the libyan cause. any event what they're doing is secondly what robert gates the secretary of defense warned against gates fairly sober minded person this said that if you do a north liaison if you do minimal intervention it might be perceived as a big lucian a war which is a terrible political consequence and certainly it is a situation in which history is absolutely not repeating itself we saw with the

amazin of iraq that france was totally opposed to it this was something that shot president george w. bush at the time there was certainly a favor and i don't know if you remember we wanted to call french fries their freedom fries because they were still matter now you have france and this situation with libya president sarkozy has even mentioned wanting to propose airstrikes on libyan leader moammar gadhafi command headquarters what could be the implications of this well partly it's of course the political change in the united states and the political change in fronts in other words a conservative government very hard core almost in american terms new conservative agenda is governing in paris and in the united states you have liberalism. which sometimes wants to be muscular but not too muscular so there is a political change on the concerts of the atlantic certainly but more than that i think the united states has overreached in iraq and afghanistan the united states

is a little scared about getting into another war in an arab land certainly there's a what he that moral demonstrations might break out in saudi arabia which is a really to have been called for already there are ongoing protests in bahrain so if these intensify i do not think they want to have any kind of intervention in libya but keep the lease since it is not clear what the political outcome would be if the united states and nato were drawn into combat operations certainly these are we've seen a shift in libya just in the last twenty four hours with gadhafi forces starting to regain control pretty interesting though you know as you mentioned president obama and defense secretary gates sort of holding the fans here waiting you say they don't they're not interested in another war in the middle east and also the american people are not interested most americans have no desire to get involved in what could potentially be another war and you know here's an here in washington there's a lot of talk about the budget reduction the deficit reduction and i want to show

you a poll a writer as it says part found that fifty one percent of americans when talking about the budget they actually support reducing defense spending that's compared to only twenty eight percent who want to cut medicare and medicaid and not eighteen percent go backwards in social security so how do you think we could possibly even be talking about a ramp up to war with libya when the majority of people in this country would prefer to reduce defense well there's only one week to go with a break in defense spending and it's downward so i think it's logical for the american people who want to increase defense spending let's just begin to do two things here with the libyan scenario one in libya unlike egypt and in other parts of the arab world you do see is. a regional civil war between the eastern part and the western part that is how the struggle has been going for the last twenty years and indeed it has now intensified militarily so it makes perfect sense to me that this is going to be

a stand up resolution has again been taken by the daffy's troops i of course don't even believe that the people in the east should propose to move their forces toward the west this is a conflict which is here to military stalemate to join that conflict is murderous because there's no clear political outcome it's a very good thing the united states is not willing to join the conflict but yet there are new conservatives in the united states just joseph lieberman and today the project for a new american century has released a report with what he wants signatories including of course the gentleman who was ready for the iraq war or wolfowitz has signed a statement saying we must go to war in libya so it's curious that some people have habits that big just current. faster and director of international studies at training college and that is going to do it for now for a while as far as we cover to go to our to dot com slash usa also trying to pay.