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can the alone show where you get the real headlines with none of the mercy or if you live in washington d.c. now the hearings have begun it's peter king's investigation into the radicalization of muslims in america so bring you the latest from capitol hill and we'll look into how this move by washington could increase tensions towards the most american community then we're hearing drum beats for war with libya for american politicians and pundits i mean it's us wonder have we learned nothing from our past and
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protests in wisconsin to reach a new level after the g.o.p. passed legislation to strip the unions of their collective bargaining rights without the democrats present for the vote so is this the end or just the beginning for democratic activism then pimco has dropped all of its u.s. gaunts car i can't is giving investors their money back do these two know something that we don't and the a.o.l. huffington post merger is causing quite a few job casualties but don't worry they have plenty of non-paid writers to fill those spots some are even now protesting the huffington post and we'll find out why the tales on all those stories and much more but first our top story. today marks the start of the homeland six house homeland security committees hearings on radicalization in the muslim community with congressman peter king leading the inquisition artie's kalen for brings us more on the first day of the hearings.
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chairman peter king launching his hearings on the radicalization of muslims in america complete with beefed up security dozens of cameras there's a dramatic witness and someone to blame we just got these extremist invaders from raping their minds american citizen hearings have received much media attention since they were announced but some say the hearing still from what could be underlying causes the muslim radicalization in the united states including the role u.s. foreign policy in the arab and muslim world has played in muslim feelings towards america but some muslim. say it's u.s. support for oppressive regimes in the middle east. and interventions in iraq and afghanistan that have radicalized them the minute that they kick at the night of slaughter they're accused as being violent when the actual perpetrators of violence are the ones that are occupying land like afghanistan and iraq right now the american empire others praise king for braving the political correctness firestorm face hearings ignited before they even began start running around looking to be
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a victim stop looking to be offended. and believe muslims are trying to take over america the expressions carpers shari'a creep or islam creep and the answer is yes i mean again if you come to this country you come for everything it offers but there's kind of a recent supreme leader and you come to in great shape yourself in immerse yourself in what america is and america isn't footpads but even los angeles county sheriff lee baca was skeptical of cain's accusations of a lack of cooperation with law enforcement when i made critical outreach to the community after nine eleven i was overwhelmed by the number of muslims who are ready and willing to connect with law enforcement muslim americans to see king's accusations as efforts to divide their community and spread the kind of fear and mistrust in law enforcement they syrians were designed to combat and all this is done is to stoke further patriot i know muslims that no longer go to their mosque
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because they're afraid they're going to be turned in by the f.b.i. and shift the burden to muslims themselves i don't understand why it has become my personal responsibility to police this community i'm an american and isn't it enough that i am a law abiding productive physician this is the first in a series of hearings king plans to hold on the radicalization of muslims in america but critics say that the accusations i've got cooperating with law enforcement that have been levied not to say against muslim americans but against activists in peace movements as well. are an effort to divide them and discredit human ford washington d.c. . hearings on muslim radicalization have now manifested they're happening as we speak so it's no longer a question of will this divide communities it's already doing just that and while representative peter king may try to argue that this is a real threat of the opposition is simply too politically correct to bring up perhaps he and his supporters are the ones that are too blinded to confront this
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country's past the atrocities that it's committed against its own citizens when marginalizing certain groups to acknowledge that it's not just muslims they kill american citizens here to discuss it with me ours said giuliani reporter and blogger for think progress and attorney jordan secular director of policy at the american center for law and justice department thank you both for being here today . is this is this the new form of mccarthyism is this the new red scare that we're seeing right now in america. i don't think so when i was at the hearing room today you see muslims testify you see family members who have had a child radicalized kids killed that one of the individuals who testified. there's someone on a shooting spree another killed in somalia these were mostly testifying i think what you saw happening and the idea of this hearing is to empower other american muslims to speak out on this issue so that it's not just dominated by groups with a as eric holder said trouble history like the council on american islamic relations who has got people in jail on terror charges they have domestic terrorist that have
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been part of their organization so instead let's get to these muslims and something dr jasser is who jesse who's becoming a well known name now in the conservative world said which i thought was interesting is that many american muslims who left these countries dominated by islamic law that wanted freedom for their kids the reason they don't associate they don't speak out as much is because they don't want to be a part of an islamic organization in america because that's a bad thing coming from where the countries they came from being part of some kind of group that wants to mix religion state how is that what you say about that and you think this is going to make muslims in america lot to cooperate with authorities nor are quite the opposite are they being singled out here well first of all i think we need that we need to establish some ground rules here i mean first of all are muslims cooperating with law enforcement the answer is for the most part yes the last ten plots the united states seven of them were broken up thanks to intelligence provided by the muslim community forty percent of. the united states are broken up thanks intelligence provided by the muslim community it
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seems to me that muslims already are cooperating so rather than focusing on them and singling them out and claiming like john does his organization by the way is him in to his family member that's about as many muslims as he represents are you saying is that a muslim if that's what's happening to us muslims who participate other muslims or other liberal groups are saying they're not muslim enough because they happen to agree with this i think that's that's a really right you know look about my communicant in the christian community we've got the whole political spectrum covered i mean conservative group there's liberal christian groups why can't they be the same thing in the muslim that you're talking about some. that's you know extremism radicalization within america why does it have to be only within the muslim community i can't talk about it in america as a whole you know if you look at certain statistics out there you'll see that terror plots since nine eleven there have been more of those planned by right wing extremists than there have been by muslims where there's a lineup rather than a couple things one like white supremacy is not new in the united states or america it's a problem we've dealt with since our history is something we still have to deal with these administering this or ignoring all the times when you're you know larry i
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don't i don't think it's accepted anywhere in any mainstream community to have those kind of use and carry out attacks like that the same time this thread which is not foreigners trying to sneak into the border and get on airplanes and question abilities but it's actually americans like al hakim who are recruiting other americans to kill americans is a new phenomenon that didn't happen necessarily right after nine eleven so this is a brand new threat that america is facing we're trying to deal with it in a way that's empowering mostly i mean congressman king was bringing together people there was there the sheriff talking about what he's done why wouldn't muslims want these stories from people instead of groups that have really bad records when it comes i mean when the big islamic groups here in the united states just have horrible records with agents near a seal empowered as a muslim by these hearings you know i don't know and the reason i just there was not to attack this person on respect that the reason i brought him up is you already you think the first thing you did was that the reason they realized i'm blowing him up is because he runs a nonprofit sort of designed to say that muslims aren't cooperating with police
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whereas we all are i mean i i work with the department of homeland security for two years doing role playing helping train people to catch terrorism and one thing that we always say detest was that we were happy to have the muslim community working with us and we were happy to not profile on race and religion and we want and we were worried about animal extremists in atlanta we were worried about why simply because they have been more attacks and plots by white supremacists and anti-government anti-tax extremists and i do have an almost double that it's not the no no no why isn't that something you don't really want to use. then he has passed on the older thread we have i forget about those rational of you who are willing to listen to the table one talk about what they're doing that's good these this is not the only hearing second to actually talk about a new issue i mean we know that there are animal rights groups we know that their white supremacy groups america this is brand new and you don't just have a hearing generally on all radical it was a one half hour hearing it's not like they spent three weeks and what an every day talking about an islamic issues for hours they'll have subcommittees all followups
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with the same time it's most of them and i think right away we see the attack on the faith of those the cooperate in these kind of hearings came right out of his mouth the first statement he made dr jasser he doesn't represent anyone the muslim community i think that's that's a bad thing that has to change just like every other religious community has great ideas or your statement to say that three muslims do not represent every single person in america at least just care represent every muslim american because if they do the american people with the popularity of the thought of muslims are not good right now in the united states and is only thirty seven percent republican and if you need something like this our congressional hearings on radicalization within the muslim american community really going to help change i say wasn't until i got here and that more people like dr jasser on cable news and care spokesman yes i do know the things that you are laying out to jessica here why nonprofits are as important as people like me are the people that broke out who have broken out the last seven and ten al qaeda plots who have been muslims who are speaking out and talking to the communities one of cain's own witnesses today as somali americans came and said that somalis need to start getting credit for their work they were
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doing what the f.b.i. did expose i think these bad guys i mean i think what you just had to have it so why is that a bad story to get out instead of coming through the mouths of clear get it out in a congressional hearing it's formal it's a good setting american people are focused on it and we have most of it because we're hearing about good king has stated king has stated also it's like saying that eighty percent of american mice are control iraq because by saying that the american muslim community isn't cooperate with law enforcement any clearly is and the fact that he this is a man who who supported to. as on in the past he was a vocal supporter of the ira as they were killing people including americans they killed an american citizen in london this is a man who historians here in the past and you are you making hammer strokes me going to care if this is a man that is clearly out there telling a falsehood that is a lying then how is that helping to educate the general i am trying to listen to what he cited was he heard from a mom at a committee hearing in congress who said yeah eighty percent or maybe we shouldn't listen to islamic radicals so much against it ok so that's how i actually say that you care and it's a fact it's a real organization it's
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a saudi fighters organization that owns the trust of most mosque in america that's no national islamic trust it's some organization if you want to make this a bit more of that cia let's talk about of the american muslims who are great at the value of it keep bringing us air let's. talk about people like me who work with law enforcement is a little terrorism is to give voices to muslims who believe that she would they do maybe not have national platforms they don't get funding from saudi arabia they want to voice they can talk about good things right there is when is that why you said that i mean it is why does the muslim american community have to come out and defend itself in capitol hill you know on capitol hill as you know here i deplore the military facility right outside of d.c. another one tried to blow up a christmas tree by me knowing who would do you good about it mom come in here and you know every time that a christian does something wrong every time that i type this we had to that's part of the christians we don't know where you go you're right where they are in these areas lawfare is where ignoring the guy with that power yawn and then my progression doesn't disassociate the mediately with people so it's
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a muslim community i'm going to the i and we are there i get it on every single person who produced every single radical try to avoid this i will tell you this goes for you more people like dr jasser hope or most encouraging today i don't want you to go non-profits like jasser talking publicly nonprofit i want people who are nonprofit i work for jesus whom i work i hate to say that i was pretty exhausted on with this what is was a done to fight terrorism that they work with law enforcement is not the issue is not afraid to talk he's a hero he's an wingnut welfare out there defaming. what is by saying that we're not cooperate with law enforcement in ways but then how do you feel it was have you brought i'm going to side of al qaeda plots no muslims have it and i don't see what they mean about muslims by most other most wanted this is the problem with anyone who i know you'll be going to the right of loosely rings are doing a lot in the valley that i don't know anything about everyone all types like me it was not i want to share with family and i tell you i do share i have to write about i'll show a lot for joining us but you know i think like a lot of people are saying what these hearings might to do is divide the community divide the american population divide the muslim community and clearly it's already
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happening most americans support are we have much more ahead on tonight's cell beating the drum for another war because the mainstream media helping politicians and pundits make the case for the u.s. to force a no fly zone over libya tiring to dive into that topic for points walker said retired u.s. army colonel and former chief of staff to colin powell say but. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think. the one well. we never got the chance to keep safe get ready because freedom.
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just say. hey guys welcome to show and tell me alone a show we've heard our guests not to say on the topic now we want to hear audio just go on to you tube to video respond or to twitter first part of the questions that we post on you tube every monday and on thursday on the show your responses we let your voice be heard. as the death toll continues to rise in libya an increasing number of people have put a no fly zone on the table but as the u.s. weighs its options politicians from both sides of the aisle rallied for intervention and some are wondering if the u.s. has learned anything at all from its past involvements in the region are to use as they see it in a house war. civil war blurs the outline of libya's future while the u.s. ways its options on the role it should play in the chaos some war loving
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politicians have been pushing for stablish a no fly zone this means bombing libyan air defense systems runways and shooting down libyan aircraft and aerial invasion some think most americans don't realize and most libyans don't want people in the entire region remember what happened with the no fly zone in iraq hundreds of civilians were killed by the enforcement of that no fly zone that hasn't changed some high ranking officials have taken it so far as to joke about an attack on the african country but it is libya any of america's business and why not let the arab world bend for itself there's absolutely no. possible justification for the united states or even the e.u. to get involved in libya there's just nothing in their charters or just there's nothing that would justify this it's in its civil war in a different country in which the details are very murky but couldn't marry could be
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a hop skip and a jump away from another war the white house is now saying it will wait for the u.n. to lead the way in dealing with libya but with the habit of getting me deep into other nations affairs will america be able to resist the temptation this could be a rerun of iraq this is a rerun of humanitarian period and very very dangerous there is nothing for the west to do despite warning signs flashing something at spurs believe history is about to repeat itself iraq and afghanistan they warn suck the us much further into war then first anticipated the definition of insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting different results well in the case of the united states it would be doing the same thing dozens and dozens of times of trying to get different results . hasn't won a war decisively since the end of world war two upholding human rights and establishing democracy have often been pretenses for america's invasions officially
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these are also the meat concerns for libya but people underlying reality this is about oil and if the united states can go in militarily but claim to be going in only for humanitarian purposes purposes the american people will buy it so i also see the park recy going the calls for humanitarian intervention nobody really turning rwanda but of course rwanda didn't have any oil with two other american wars being fought in the muslim world death tolls continue to rise. apart from the human cost the u.s. is running not a huge warfare tab considering the fact that we have fifty four percent of federal tax dollars going into the fence and into the destruction of afghanistan and iraq and you have to really wonder how crazy this country is and how willing the american people are to foot the bill both the europeans and the americans are facing huge budget deficits military overstretch it's very it's going to be very
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hard to explain to the people why they can't have their pensions and right are losing their jobs but there's enough money to throw into a military intervention a country that is far away and is minding its own business and minding its own business is what many would want the u.s. to do but the whole world doesn't have the stomach for it anymore the u.s. seems to have chosen a wait and see approach hoping the united nations will lead the way with the u.s. unsanctioned invasion of iraq still fresh in mind and many fear its support within the international community is not found the u.s. would act regardless of r.t. new york. make no mistake about it we are now hearing the drunk for war and it's coming from ghosts. sides of the political aisle so is everybody gone completely crazy we're broke our resources are stretched too thin and this is not our fight oh is this just another example we've become so addicted we just don't
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know how to do how to do business any other way around the world join me to discuss it is lawrence wilkerson former chief of staff at home al. gore and thanks so much for being here tonight now i want to ask you something is it inconsistent for obama to come out and say that qaddafi must step down but not want to make that happen with any military action because this is what of course some of these war hawks are now saying i don't think so i think rhetoric there's rhetoric especially from the bully pulpit of the powerful to. i think it is a little in congress because just a few years ago i could say months we were welcomed welcoming the prodigal son back condi rice was having lunch with him and tony blair was having dinner with him so for now he's more prodigal but he is son and we're disturbed but he's also killing people his own people and he's doing it in an increasingly horrific way so i think diplomacy is rather easy and in this case i think strong words can have an effect
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now like i mentioned this is coming you know from both sides of the aisle we have john mccain saying that we should intervene right away then at the same time we have john kerry saying that a no fly zone should be implemented and both men seem to have never met a tyrant they didn't want to bomb late i was happy you mentioned that. i feel like no matter what we just want to call everybody we don't know how to do it any differently and then john kerry said that you know this isn't going to be a long term thing if the outcome is what we desire but what i can't figure out is what exactly that outcome is that we desire what the overall goal here is going to be a long term thing in saigon there and ten years later and fifty eight thousand dead americans and two and a half million dead north vietnamese proved otherwise this is a civil war that's what it was in vietnam and also intervening in a civil war is very differ. even if you know the sides in this case we only know one side we know gadhafi side even though we did give him a welcome back we know what authority is we know that was essentially for money. we
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don't know what's on the other side we don't know what the resolution will be to french can go the british can fly n.s.a.'s team in then we get embarrassed by having captured we have all these kind of contacts but we really don't know what the other side consists of yet and to go in in a whole hog way and support that other side and then be responsible for what we produced by supporting other side could have some very bad consequences of course because that if we get involved there for the ones to intervene and like you said to some side then we're responsible and we're the ones that's going to be our fault no matter how we've already got to be on our back on our front on our sides and everything else for people in that region in particular but our disaster not their writers are not even sadder you know to here's another matter a serious matter i know there's oil there it's i know it's the ninth maybe the tenth it's light sweet crude it's not sour oil it's everybody covets at the the europeans can only refine that kind of also it is important in
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a strategic sense for here's another issue. jeddah and what's happening in saudi arabia right now what's happening in bahrain what's happening in yemen if this starts to unfold as it's unfolding in libya right now or even reasonably like it's unfolding you know if you know the words forces were going to be the central play then what are we are doing through libya saudi arabia is far more important in terms of its assets for us to do or puts out six million barrels per day last i checked that's wharfs libya so if it's going to do something in the region with force we better wait and see where we should do it because we do not have limitless we're all saudi arabia is seeing protests right now tomorrow is going to be a day of rage and say the saudis even open fire on their own people so now what are our next steps are we going to come out and come down on. this move are we going to start shouting for a no fly zone if that continues then saudi arabia would be quite a different undertaking in terms of u.s.
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foreign policy and bahrain maybe look sort of as the as the precursor for it because that's where our largest fleet headquarters is now fifth fleet that's where we have a lot of facilities five hundred thousand shia which is about seventy percent of that small country's population and we're going to side with the monarch. this is a dangerous situation dangerous in a really fundamental strategic sort of way you will five dollars a gallon gas six dollars a gallon gasoline this is something we need to keep our powder dry for i agree with secretary clinton if the u.n. security council can pass a resolution that says we will stand offshore and from essentially carrier battle groups make sure nobody flies in the first time we shoot a libyan pointed down that was put on the ground they won't fly anymore if they want to do some kind of a very limited operation like that sanctioned by the united nations then ok but anything bigger than that we're just asking for problems and i wonder you know what happens let's say that if there is an american casualty in all of this then we have
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to avenge this american casualty of that it becomes more of a long term situation and it's actually i think even more serious than that because only the chinese as i understand it right now about floating every ship they had in the mediterranean have an ak you waited there twenty two thousand noncombatants there are still many noncombatants in there turks bangladeshis he gyptian maybe americans french british you're right we wind up killing some of them too and once we start suppressing arafat's it off he's not stupid his generals are not stupid they will move the air defense next to the mosque next to the orphanage next to the school hospital and would be bombing schools and hospitals so this is not is easy as some of these armchair military officers say it is right after i don't think you could off he's going to have some doubt this response here but i for one am all for the caution i mean can you just imagine if john mccain were our president today i mean i don't i didn't vote for not only would we be a war with libya we'd be at war with iran with north korea by now but we would have just bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb iran who knows where every problem in the world is
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unable you're a hammer that's right that's john mccain all right thank you so much for joining us tonight thanks for having. ok it's time for show and tell on tonight's program now last time we told you that robert gates had made a surprise visit to afghanistan to analyze the originally proposed troop withdrawal in twenty fourteen we want to know if you think that it's time for the rest to leave the country or if we should stick around and rebuild so here's what some of you have to say on facebook we heard from michael davison he said leave rebuilding is just a nice way to say occupy richard mendoza agrees he says it's time to lete lives are being wasted at this very instant john to say in response we cut money to the american public programs and have unlimited funds to rebuild other selective countries how about working on rebuilding the usa for
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a change and grayson for says see you later let's get out n.g.o.s are just profiteering on rebuilding and nothing is getting done anyway and all in a state will probably stay and have a presence just like our over nine hundred other places around the world now lazarus cato tweeted his response saying troops should be replaced with un peacekeepers and community development and aid workers so seems like everybody is basically on the same page with this issue or saying that the us should get out and the sooner the better we thank you for your responses and here's our next topic of discussion and saudi arabia the government is working hard to keep any attempts of protesting like the kind we've seen from other arab countries from happening there and from growing so police have already opened fire on a crowd and many fear that the violence towards the people is only going to get worse so we want to know how you think the u.s. government's going to react let us know what you think what will the u.s. response be if the government of saudi arabia violently violently cracks down on their protesters you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and who
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