tv [untitled] March 18, 2011 10:00pm-10:30pm EDT
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welcome to the alone the show will get the real headlines with none of the mersey becoming live out of washington d.c. and i'm lucy capitol in alone now last night the united nations security council declared a no fly zone over libya with the weight of the united states behind the resolution so are we now witnessing the march to yet another war with a middle eastern country all in the name of a humanitarian crisis and then switching gears to the ongoing catastrophe in japan health concerns continue to rise after the head of to tokyo power company admitted
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that the radiation could in fact be harmful to the public but the more we learn about this new nuclear crisis we have to ask could this whole situation have been prevented and then move over to dr bird there could be a bright young beautiful female filling in your shoes going to tell you about the latest social networking site and just why it may be so successful they could soon face book. and then of course protests are planned for this weekend which our team will be covering to call out the united states over their own ethical treatment of private brother bradley manning so as pick is the classic case for the possible legal continues to haunt the government going to get some perspective on this issue from daniel ellsberg the famous man who leaked the pentagon papers back in the one nine hundred seventy s. . and then let's be honest this week has been kind of hectic so why not take a little break with today's happy at work we're going to bring you all the stories making the biggest buzz on the web with producer jenny churchill and the daily callers mike riggs details on all this and much more on tonight's show but first
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our top story. now last night the u.n. security council declared a no fly zone over libya along with an arms embargo in its declaration that united nations security council called for a nest all necessary measures to stop margaret coffey brutal response to libya's rebellion in short for the declaration of war now the effort is being described as a humanitarian mission to liberate the people of libya from a terrible tyler tyrant and most people would probably find it off his attacks on his own armed population to be repulsive but of course the same could be said and in fact was constantly said about saddam hussein and the taliban and look at how well those efforts have turned out for the united states so it's humanitarian isn't simply of the beautiful package in which every new war is wrapped or is this the good war the just war as president obama himself said today but here to discuss this is jordan secular human rights attorney and director of international
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operations for the american center for law and justice and joining us from our new york studios is scott horton he's a contributing editor legal and national security man for matters for harper's magazine gentlemen thank you both so much for being here now we do know of course that. there has been a ceasefire declared at the moment and we don't know exactly how the situation is going to play out but jordan i want to start with you is this potential intervention a just cause as president obama said today i do think it's a just cause maybe a little bit too late those of us who are we have been following this story closely and work in international law and human rights law we're hoping that when the rebels really had tripoli and were coming on to tripoli and could offer his forces were not really well organized in response to this popular uprising that was going on with military equipment so a big difference in what happened in egypt and what we noticed is that. women could offer was the weakest the you would get stuck in these discussions and
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unfortunately this does point to some of the problems with this. curity council taking too long now what we're concerned about is that if we if we do if this goes forward if there's airstrikes on tripoli in airstrikes on military bases what happens after gadhafi is military is or is he just going to keep control of eighty percent of the country which he's been able to get back because we've done nothing the past a month march third president obama said he needs to go and it took until today some more than two weeks to finally ok any action no one is saying by the way make it clear to all the viewers u.s. troops should be on the ground there absolutely not we're not supporting that either now scott is this just because as our guest here in the studio. but i think there's no question whatsoever that the security council at the united nations has the right under the united nations charter to authorize intervention to protect the civilian population from being attacked so that's that's an appropriate use of
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power i think the big question is how this is going to play out in fact and you know with this resolution we see an expansion of the scope of the authority beyond the prior resolutions that were issued with respect to bosnia and iraq so this is not just the no fly zone that's been established it is also authorized. hostilities against the naval ships and a land forces as well so it's a considerable broadening now i think what jason's talking about clearly wouldn't be authorized that is a military intervention on the side of one of the combatant parties that would not be a humanitarian intervention that would be a direct engagement in the civil war and what i was saying was what what happens to the rebel side that the world is kind of rally to the reading with people at the u.n. during the cease fire they're not allowed to keep progressing could off he's not allowed to keep progressing they've got control maybe of still one city though his troops are supposedly still firing on it and just miles away as we speak right now
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the second part i think is different from afghanistan and iraq is the broad very broad coalition here we had lebannon you know predominantly muslim arab country voting yes on this intervention you have the arab league supporting this intervention you have europe supporting the intervention so certainly this is different than iraq or afghanistan in the past but certain numbers don't necessarily justify it because i mean you had their resolution arab league constantly pushing for tougher action against israel and what israel is doing and for example with the palestinians in gaza and the other areas and you don't see the united states helping out and that in fact we've consistently abstained or voted against any sort of action on that so how do you just. no country i mean you had countries that could have done that. russia and china could have done that if they felt that way and i think listen you have to base some of this on the leader's remarks as crazy as people may believe khadafi is on either side of this issue he said and made a threat to the people in benghazi specifically and said you know we will not spare
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anyone and when you make a threat like that in all the world leaders are meeting at the united nations puts a lot of pressure on them to step in before there's a genocide kind of activity and certainly the u.n. has a record of not stepping in quickly enough to force the civilian populations are completely decimated and i think they're concerned about it but we're talking about right now is airstrikes not ground troops not blackhawk down kind of scenarios and if things go well maybe we can still stock off and ultimately get him out of power there and let the people live you have the country and i'll stick with your heart and what does going well what does that look like i mean if the rebels set up a government that ends up being some sort of islamic hard line failed to fundamentally governments would that have justified what were far away i think you were far away from that note in those different representatives and that's certainly been an issue here is no one is exactly sure who is the leader of this movement there's not one single person that's come forward but i'd say that we have to one with a dictator threatens to start killing his own population that's not the first
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decision we need to make that we make that decision after we dismantle his ability to kill that population so if we take out us what happens we take out his military capabilities so he cannot strike the civilians which means he'll he could not survive if those attacks well he wants survive there and then we have to start working with democracy building organizations civil society organizations the united nations the world community has to come together and establish these governments just like what's happening in egypt in places like that i mean this is a little too reminiscent to me of darkness there i mean sharing the iraq war you know i mean i we're going to be here and leslie how do you decide when democracy building is somehow just especially when you don't know who the rebels exactly are and what a potential new government would look like. well i think precisely but let's go back to the question of who does jordan mean when he says we is we the united states is the united states going to intervene here and take out the and install a new government that government would have no legitimacy and i think here the
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legitimacy of what the security council has dumble rest in large measure on the even handedness of the implementation and also on who does it in this case the u.s. is already engaged in two wars on the way and on the ground in the middle east it's overtaxed at this point this effort really should be led by the arab world by the arab league and we have two arab powers certainly have the air ability to do it egypt and saudi arabia the question is where is where they are what we see right now is the arab league or the arab league is a big noting this and the europeans by the ukase for france know how you are who are they also have an issue here they're much closer to libya they have to deal with their constituency american people we have a poll that came out that's a fifty five percent of the american people were not for any sort of military i will say that i don't think president obama has sold this well and explain just wasn't there any longer thought congress has not even been
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a part of this yet maybe maybe next week and we may seem to having to pass some kind of resolutions but at this time i don't think one there's any indication that the united states is going to be setting up some government there primarily it looks like the u.k. and france are taking the lead role on this second we were asked by these opposition leaders and we saw that happen from the groups that are at the united nations so we're not in voluntarily just inserting ourselves no place like iraq where it wasn't some kind of outcry from he was a come fight for us and we see it as an enemy and we're here for the people not because of some greater interest in fact the united states had normalized a lot of relations with moammar gadhafi this was another situation like what happened in egypt where it's not necessarily great for our foreign policy that we're having to deal with it but we have to deal with what's happening today sure. and as i mean we're going to have to go and intervene on behalf of the saudi arabian people and not talk raney people should we go and extend it to china that united nations where do you attribute a gracious i mean i think the united nations may have to i mean that's part of their mission that's part of the security council's mission if people are being
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massacred anywhere that's why we have a security council that's why we have article forty two of the in the security you in charter it says you can authorize and that means forty one people who were killed and even today for instance up into the by the exactly the same sort of measures in yemen as well as bahrain as well as saudi arabia soon we're going to be deeply enmeshed out the middle east but i think the big question we really have to come back and look at is a question of process within the united states within the united states there's all this happened because barack obama goes to the security council and gets a resolution and the united states under the u.s. constitution the war powers are very carefully divided between congress and the united states and following not only the war but our historical practice the president has sold the case for going to war and make no mistake about it that's what we're talking about here he sold the case to the american public gotten the support of the public and they've gotten congress' support what is happened to this effect forty eight hours ago we have the national security adviser saying the
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united states had no imperative it is not about this we're going to get in the. civilian population we're not trying for which there's not a better message on this right and i think that term is wrong and misleading to the people i think there's a lot left when i say they're here to use that term i think there's a lot to be debated here but unfortunately that's all the time we have right now the only thing that i will say is that a lot of questions remain and i don't know if we can really justify going around and deciding who's right and who's wrong and that's matching our military powers in those instances and how we're going to have to have to take a quick break but right afterwards from the switch from the crisis in libya to the catastrophe in japan are plentiful course from outside the evacuee. so the president struggle to figure out what effects the nuclear catastrophe is going to happen that country and of course on a much lighter note if she'd been the next big internet logo we don't need a college student who is cashing in with her new social networking site back in just a bit. let's
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and your responses we've played your voice be heard. now the desperate situation continues to escalate at the fukushima nuclear power plant in japan as water is dropped on the unstable reactors officials seem to be exhausting all options to keep from ball out nuclear meltdown but they've also asked for help from the international resources to provide aid in this nuclear mess but nevertheless radiation levels at the plants are at record levels and each new report seems to bring more bad news to the people of japan and add to all this growing distrust in their government and it's really become clear that the people of japan seem to fear for their help their homes their livelihood but how far does this devastation spread artie's ivor bennett is in japan and brings us the latest. this is a town as o.-r. i-a around half way between tokyo and fukushima i'm still one hundred fifty kilometers south of the nuclear power plant but already the radiation levels here
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over double that of those in tokyo the going to counter i've got just started beeping wildly and shortstops you know point five month receive it's per hour it's not harmful to one's health especially just yet but it is certainly a concern so much so that the army has started to hand out these face masks here but people are wearing you then they're going to make you look very for the radiation you can do much more to it all we can do is follow the media and trust the government. the tsunami did actually come in this story now and with escaped most of the damage however since the earthquake has been without drinking water here in the residents of the common fill up water they need from points like this in the town sets up by the army further up the coast it's a similar story we've been travelling along this road for the last ten fifteen kilometers looking for a place to have lunch but none of the restaurant story for. the week until we can
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loop and we've literally because we can't do anything we don't. this is the start of japan's ravaged east coast norene lifestyle the very just lie strewn all over the place here a wall collapsed over here houses of fallen down such as the force of the tsunami this is also the point where we're going to turn back because the dog account is reading the highest it has been all day one point zero four might receive it's out of my fear is that i won't be able to live here anymore and this is my home obviously here for my health for the radiation but it's not just the i'm afraid i will be able to come back here we're only around a hundred and twenty kilometers south of fukushima power plant now if the wind blows this way and even worse if the rain comes in the radiation will shortz arrived in force. and others are reporting from japan but the nuclear crisis there continues to unfold as authorities scramble to prevent
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a total mcnulty and a power plant and the boss of the tokyo electric power company today broke down in tears and chapin finally acknowledged that the radiation spewing from the nuclear complex was not actually kill from citizens but could this entire crisis have been prevented with this is a stress this is investigative journalist chipchura thank you so much for joining us now before we get to the issues with the tokyo power plant i want to have great quickly authorities have raised the threat level from four to five which is the same as the three mile island disaster is this position ration is getting worse where should the higher level been there in the first. place and i would have been there in the first place i'm not a nuclear expert but when i've been following the events of the last couple days it's clear that this was a growing disaster from a few days ago and it's i think they should have been raising it pretty high levels as soon as far as soon as it started looking like a meltdown right well now that tepco the tokyo electric power company has been known for some shady practices in the past and i know that you've grown up and
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you've lived there as a journalist based on your understanding of the nuclear industry is relationship with the japanese government is there something to indicate that this crisis perhaps could have been prevented is there this trend of corporate and government interests sort of stepping in line together while it's hard to see this could have been prevented because of the disaster is such a bad one i mean this is a terrible earthquake and once in a thousand iran to be knocked out the power supplies but yes this particular company has had a very bad record on safety it's had a terrible record of actually covering up safety problems actually rewriting reports to make it look like things weren't quite as bad. and the government has kind of you know has sometimes taken action against this company and against some of the other nuclear utilities here but there has been a very. very cozy arrangement between the government and the utilities here and you know nuclear power has grown there by leaps and bounds it's fifty four plants so
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that's an interesting thing because i mean in some ways you can argue that the nuclear industry was born out of this terrible tremendous crisis in japan right and when we drop the bomb on hiroshima and nagasaki you would think that a country with such a painful history with nuclear power would be more adverse towards relying on it how do you think the nuclear industry was sort of able to overcome those that distrust in that here while this industry grew so large during the period of very rapid growth which started in the one nine hundred sixty s. through the one nine hundred seventy s. unbelievable growth of berries you know industries huge industries on the coast. petrochemicals steel automobiles all over the all over the country and so you know there was a lot of the way things grew was there was this close relationship between business and government where there wasn't that much oversight people going back and forth as the system they called daddy which refers to officials leaving their government posts after they retire and going and getting hired by either companies or industry
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group sounds like a street in washington or just like washington but worried that you know the problem is there where you had these people that were supposed to be regulating utilities or various companies then going to them right after they quit yes it's the same kind of problem you have here where you don't have this complete independence and so much you know when you have oversight over a dangerous industry but this you have to have that kind of independence and i wouldn't even say it completely exists here we know the situation in lots of our industries and frankly i find it a little hypocritical for our government the united states government to be criticizing japan when we had the corps of engineers completely fail to protect the people who are leaning out and built levees that collapsed have drowned hundreds of people and there's been no justice there's been there's been no you know oversight about that there's only one thing and as if the health codes hasn't been hit hard enough we found out that the obama administration actually offered four million
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dollars to have to go to build two potential reactors in the gulf coast area which i'm sure has not had to happen after this disaster but what lessons can we draw parallels between our own industry corporate government relationship and that in japan when it comes to dangerous industries well i think that it's not accurate to say that the japanese government reaction has been the same all this time i mean this government there was a ruling party the liberal democratic party which ruled for almost fifty years which was heavily funded at the beginning of its of its time in power by the us you can. what this up in the new york times is an old story in japan this government was kept in power for reasons of the cold war you know japan is a bastion against the soviet union in china against north korea and so on and they supported this this government for years and knowing they had this very close relationship with the industry and i think you know that's that's the kind of system we definitely don't want to have but unfortunately i think we have a lot of signs that in this country here we're going to look at the last thing
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that's utter crap a grassroots push right now that's sort of been co-opted by certain forces where regulation is bad regulation is bad for business and bad for our economy so do you think in the wake of this crisis maybe some of those forces will be rethought here in the states could we see maybe more regulation of nuclear industry one would certainly hope so and i think it's going to be very hard for any utility to build a new new new nuclear reactor i don't know how long it's been it's been least thirty years it's been a new reactor built here three and you know it's just not going to happen and how you know people are looking at these places near the coast of the going to be close to a tsunami earthquake you know your earthquake zones and yours fault lines and that kind of thing there's a lot of questions going to be really all right well a lot of questions remain thank you so much that was course our guest now she's been called she's been called the female mark zuckerberg breaking through the glass ceiling in a field that's been mostly dominated by well young guys who i guess are really good at computers and stuff now along with her brother katherine cooke launched the
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social networking web site my yearbook dot com in her bedroom she was still in just a school but today the twenty one year old is at the helm of the successful company which is now worth more than some twenty million dollars she joins us now to talk about her success thank you so much for being here and not me i just want to understand how is that you watch this company in two thousand and five yes when i was fifteen how in the world is it that you know you have one of the top most visited one of the top twenty five most visited sites twenty five million unique users how is it that you were able to see. cde when you have such intense competition from facebook my space for encircled i guess no one really uses. well i really think that a huge part of that is just well my yearbook was founded to meet new people and we have since then just trying to become the best way to meet new people and we try to create very innovative ways of doing so for instance live which is our synchronous gaming platform we just launched at the end of january is allows users to do
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a live video chats or playing games and it's a great way to be because you know when you're playing chess online you want to see that and interact with them in different ways and such an enormously successful with over half a dozen developers already developing on the platform and the average member already. uses it has fifteen video chats per day now what are the issues that we talk a lot about on the show is the issue of privacy which of course facebook has struggled with google has struggled with and we saw both mark zuckerberg schmidt of google sort of putting out this message that you know what privacy is really in the hands of the users and that these companies should not be held liable for releasing information because people should be responsible about what they put out there as someone who has this social networking site what's your stance on that i mean whose responsibility is it to protect users privacy well it's really a shared responsibility i mean we but really the responsibility is on the company make sure that people know exactly what they're sharing by having very simple
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privacy controls for instance on my yearbook you cannot go into your settings and have only friends only can view your can view your profile friends only can view your post your messages or you can have everyone and different degrees in between and then that we also have a quarter our headcount is actually getting catered to moderation in member safety so we take privacy and safety concerns very seriously and we we would never sell grants or otherwise provide. my you books members of her patients to third parties without their explicit profession and i'm just curious if you guys ever experience . any issues with for example the federal government coming in to try to get information on somebody when we know that twitter had been subpoenaed for records of certain wiki leaks related users and and other sites of pet issues ever so. we actually worked at the new jersey attorney general to come up with our report abuse links just to make sure that our members are. and to work with our entire state programs to make sure every. reuse best practices and have
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the same report on every page is very helpful to members just to understand what they're doing and what they're sharing and you think you can maybe use this privacy issue as a way of capitalizing to surpass mark zuckerberg and facebook certainly has been hit hard for its privacy. i think that privacy will always be an issue because i mean it's hard to know. how we're sharing will but i do think that is something like europe as well we do warner members you know don't push things and we allow members of you who actually view their profile which obviously facebook doesn't do it so i mean that helps with that issue as well as we have. messages we have notices and every message about the fold letting them know i have to ask i mean it's such a male dominated field how does it feel as a woman is a difficult to sort of succeed and get out there. well i don't think so i mean i
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mean obviously you're the exemptions and. i mean i guess i as actually entrepreneurship is very limited for women it's not really but there are definite aren't a lot of we're not sure as i know in fact i was actually at a organization that i was competing for and asked for nor word very young students were asked and you know i made it is the final rounds top five and so my prize for getting there was a man's watch and kolo and very very. i do hope that more women will go into the field i hope to be a mentor to some hopefully my peers will have more women on the show talking about just that now we have much more ahead on the show you thought that you thought that she was just a political pundit but it seems that and culture is now a new there are scientists and the message from dr culture is that radiation me actually be good for you we're going to tackle her claims that are actual times that of course what makes daniel ellsberg hero and bradley manning and unpatriotic
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villains and i've been asked that very question to the man himself mr ellsberg leaked the pentagon papers back in one thousand seventy one and showed the world what was actually going on in vietnam we're going to hear from him perhaps just right after this break. but drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through. who can you trust no one who sees you view with the oval machinery see where are we heading state controlled capitalism school sessions when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more.
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