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the u.s. u.k. france and arab countries it warned that libya he needed it lee implemented a cease fire or face military action to libyan deputy foreign minister says they've already halted operations and has invited international observers to see for themselves it comes amid conflicting reports government forces are continuing to assault rebel held areas. meanwhile the international community faces accusations of double standards in its treatment of libya the deadly crackdown on protesters in bahrain and yemen have been largely ignored by the same countries who are so willing to take action against gadhafi forces on friday at least forty five people were killed and dozens injured in the yemeni capital after unidentified gunmen
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opened fire on an anti-government protest. a race against time a team of fifty holed up inside of the stricken fukushima power plant in japan battled to prevent a complete meltdown the japanese government the emergency level as radiation continues to rise it's reported the plant has now connected to an external power source vital in restarting cooling systems. and you can stay with us for more in-depth analysis on libya coming up next on the show. for the full story we've got. the biggest issues get the human voice face to face with the news makers. welcome to the alona show will get the real headlines with none of the mersey
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becoming live out of washington d.c. and i'm lucy in for alone now last night the united nations security council declared a no fly zone over libya with the weight of the united states behind the resolution so are we now witnessing the march to yet another war with a middle eastern country all the name of a humanitarian crisis and then switching gears to the ongoing catastrophe in japan health concerns continue to rise after the head of to tokyo power company admitted that the radiation could in fact be harmful to the public but the more we learn about this new nuclear crisis we have to ask could this whole situation have been prevented and then move overs dr bird there could be a bright young beautiful female filling in your shoes going to tell you about the latest social networking site and just why it may be so successful they could soon be facebook and then of course protests are planned for this weekend which party will be covering to call out the united states over their own ethical treatment of
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private progressively manning so as that is the key as the case for the possible legal continues to haunt the government going to get some perspective on this issue from daniel ellsberg the famous man who leaked the pentagon papers back in the one nine hundred seventy s. and then let's be honest this week has been kind of hectic so why not take a little break with today's happy hour we're going to bring you all the stories making the biggest buzz on the web with producer jenny churchill and the daily callers mike riggs details on all of this and much more on tonight's show but first our top story. now last night the u.n. security council declare a no fly zone over libya along with an arms embargo in its declaration to the united nations security council called for unless all necessary measures to stop margaret coffey brutal response to libya's rebellion in short it's a declaration of war now the effort is being described as a humanitarian mission to liberate the people of libya from a terrible tyrant tyrant and most people would probably find that off his attacks
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on his armed population to be repulsive but of course the same could be said and in fact was constantly said about saddam hussein and the taliban and look at how well those efforts have turned out for the united states so it's humanitarianism simply of the beautiful package in which every new war is wrapped or is this the good war the just war that's president obama himself said today and here to discuss this is jordan psyche low a human rights attorney and director of international operations for the american center for law and justice and joining us from our new york studios is scott horton he's a contributing editor on legal and national security man for matters for harper's magazine gentlemen thank you both so much for being here now we do know of course that. there has been a ceasefire declared at the moment and we don't know exactly how the situation is going to play out but jordan i want to start with you is this potential intervention a just cause as president obama said i do think it's
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a just cause maybe a little bit too late those of us who are good following this story closely and work in international law and human rights law we're hoping that when the rebels really had tripoli and were coming into tripoli and khadafi forces were not really well organized in response to this popular uprising that was going on with military equipment so a bit different what happened in egypt and what we noticed is that. women could offer was the weakest the you would get stuck in these discussions and unfortunately there's those points or some of the problems with this. curity council taking too long now what we're concerned about is that if we if we do if this goes forward if there's airstrikes on tripoli and air strikes on military bases what happens after gadhafi is military is or is he just going to keep control of eighty percent of the country which he's been able to get back because we've done nothing the past month march third president obama said he needs to go and it took until today so more than two weeks to finally ok any action and no one is
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saying by the way make it clear to all the viewers u.s. troops should be on the ground there absolutely not we're not supporting that either now scott is this i just because as our guest here in the studio that. but i think that there's no question whatsoever that the security council at the united nations has the right under the united nations charter to authorize intervention to protect the civilian population from being attacked so that's that's an appropriate use of power i think the big question is how this is going to play out in fact and you know with this resolution we see an expansion of the scope of the authority beyond the prior resolutions that were issued with respect to bosnia and iraq so this is not just the no fly zone that's been established it is also authorized. hostilities against the naval ships and land forces as well so it's a considerable broadening now i think what jason's talking about clearly wouldn't
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be authorized that is a military intervention on the side of one of the combatant parties that would not be humanitarian intervention that would be a direct engagement in the civil war and what i was saying was what what happens to the rebel side that the world has kind of rally today to reading with people at the u.n. during the cease fire they're not allowed to keep progressing khadafi is not allowed to keep progressing they've got control maybe of still one city though his troops are supposedly still firing on it and just miles away as we speak right now the second part i think is different from afghanistan or iraq is the broad very broad coalition here you had lebannon you know predominately muslim arab countries voting yes on this intervention you have the arab league supporting this intervention you have europe supporting the intervention so certainly this is different than iraq or afghanistan in the past a certain numbers don't necessarily justify a cause i mean you had there a resolution arab league constantly pushing for tougher action against israel and what israel is doing and for example with the palestinians in gaza and the other
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areas and you don't see the united states that being up and that in fact we've consistently abstained or voted against any sort of action on that so how do you just. i mean you had countries that could have done that. russia and china could have done that if they felt that way and i think listen you have to base some of this on the leaders remarks as crazy as people may believe khadafi is on either side of this issue he said and made a threat to the people in gaza specifically and said you know we will not spare anyone and when you make a threat like that in all the world leaders are meeting at the united nations puts a lot of pressure on them to step in before there's a genocide kind of activity and certainly the u.n. has a record of not stepping in quickly enough before the civilian populations are completely decimated and i think they're concerned about it but we're talking about you know as air strikes not ground troops not blackhawk down kind of scenarios and if things go well maybe we can still stop to darfur and ultimately get him out of power there and let the people libya have their country and i'll stick with you charge and what
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does going well what does that look like i mean if the rebels set up a government that ends up being some sort of islamic hard line called the fundamentalist government would that have justified what we're far away i think we're far away from that in those different representatives and that's certainly been an issue here is no one is exactly sure who is the leader of this group and there's not one single person has come forward but i'd say that we have to one win a dictator threatens to start killing his own population that's not the first decision we need to make that we make that decision after we dismantle his ability to kill that population so if we take out us what happens we take out his military capabilities so he cannot strike the civilians which means he could not survive if those attacks well he won't survive there and then we have to start working with democracy building organizations civil society organizations the united nations the world community has to come together and establish these governments just like what's happening in egypt in places like that i mean this is a little too reminiscent to me there are going to remain during the iraq war you
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know i mean are we going to be here and leslie how do you decide when building a somehow just especially when you don't know who the rebels exactly are and what a potential new government would look like. well i think precisely but let's go back to the question of who does jordan mean when he says we is we the united states is the united states going to intervene here and take out coffee and install a new government that government would have no legitimacy and i think here the legitimacy of what the security council has dumble rest and large measure on the even handedness of the implementation and also on who does it in this case the u.s. is already engaged in two wars on the on the ground in the middle east it's overtaxed at this point this effort really should be led by the arab world by the arab league and we have two arab powers certainly have the air ability to
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do it egypt and saudi arabia the question is where is where they what we see right now is the arab league or they're going to be supporting this and the europeans by the ukase for france know how and who are good for they also have an issue here they're much closer to libya they have to deal with regulatory the american people we have a poll that came out that said sixty five percent of the american people were not for any sort of military i will say that i don't think president obama has sold this well and explained this wasn't very long or thought congress has not even been a part of this yet made maybe next week and we may see them having to pass some kind of resolutions but at this time i don't think one there's any indication that the united states is going to be setting up some government there that primarily it looks like the u.k. and france are taking the lead role on this second we were asked by these opposition leaders and we saw that happen from the groups that are at the united nations so we're not in voluntarily just inserting ourselves in a place like iraq where it wasn't some kind of outcry from he was a come fight for us and we see it as an enemy and we're here for people not because
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of some greater interest in fact the united states had normalized a lot of relations with moammar gadhafi this was another situation like what happened in egypt where it's not necessarily great for our foreign policy that we're having to deal with it but we have to deal with what's happening today sure. and does that mean we're going to have to go and intervene on behalf of the saudi arabian people and the people should we go and expand it to china that you know united nations where do you attribute ideations i mean i think the united nations may have to i mean that's part of their mission that's part of the security council's mission if people are being massacred anywhere that's why we have a security council that's why we have article forty two of the in the security charter that says you can authorize it that means forty one people who were killed and even delayed for instance got into the by the exactly the same sort of measures in yemen as well as bahrain as well as saudi arabia soon we're going to be deeply enmeshed through out the middle east but i think the big question we really have to come back and look at is a question of process within the united states within the united states does all this happen because barack obama goes to the security council and gets
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a resolution and the united states under the u.s. constitution the war powers are very carefully divided between congress and the united states and following not only the war but our historical practice the president has sold the case for going to war and no big numbers think about it that's what we're talking about here he sold the case to the american public gotten the support of the public and they've gotten congress' support what has happened to this effect forty eight hours ago we have the national security adviser saying the united states had no imperative to actually get it out of the center there in the. civilian population we're not trying for this sort of time there's not a better message on this writer i think and i think that term is wrong and misleading to the people i think there's a lot left i'll say they're here to use that term i think there's a lot to be debated here but unfortunately that's all the time we have right now the only thing that i will say is that a lot of questions remain and i don't know if we can really justify going around and deciding who's right and who's wrong and the thatching our military powers in
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those instances and how we're going to have to have to take a quick break but right afterwards we're going to switch from the crisis in libya to the catastrophe in japan r.t. if i were bennett of course from outside the evacuees. so the president's struggle to figure out what if that's the nuclear catastrophe is going to happen that country and of course on a much lighter note is she the next big internet mogul going to meet a college student who was cashing in with her new social networking site back in just a bit. urged the removal of called the clear cut. cases there used to be for the. hurt remains are you buying the treatment. that we feel.
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on. your social see how we can go on so long called talk from the. lights on the. video. smiling. and omissions feet now with the palm of your. machine. well the desperate situation continues to escalate at the fukushima nuclear power plant in japan as water is dropped on the unstable reactors officials seem to be exhausting all options to keep from a full out nuclear meltdown but they've also asked for help from the international resources to provide aid in this nuclear mess but nevertheless radiation levels at
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the plants are at record levels and each new report seems to bring more bad news for the people of japan and add to all this growing distrust in their government and it's really become clear that the people of egypt. hanson to fear for their health their homes their livelihood but how far does this devastation spread artie's ivor bennett is in japan and brings us the latest. this is the town of o.-r. i-a around halfway between tokyo and fukushima i'm still one hundred fifty kilometers south of the nuclear power plant but already the radiation levels here over double that of those in tokyo the geiger counter i've got just started beeping wildly and short circuits in your point five month receive it's per hour it's not harmful to one's health especially just yet but it is certainly a concern so much so that the army has decided to hand out these face masks here that people are wearing they're going to hear very afraid of the radiation but who can do very much about it only can do is follow the media and trust the continent
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is. the tsunami did actually come in this far inland with the town escaped most of the damage however since the earthquake they've been without drinking water here in the residents have to come and fill up water they need from points like this in the town have been set up by the army further up the coast it's a similar story we've been travelling along this road for the last ten fifteen florence is looking for a place to have lunch but none of the restaurants are open. to take another week and who we can loop and we've literally between can't do anything we don't know. this is the start of japan's ravaged east coast norene life the other day every just lies strewn all over the place here so walls collapsed over here houses of fallen down such as the force of the tsunami this is also the talk of we're going to turn back because we go you counties reading the highest it has done all day one point zero four they might receive it's but how can my fear is that i won't be able
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to live here anymore and this is my home obviously for my health for the radiation but it's not just about that i'm afraid i will be able to come back here we're only around a hundred and twenty kilometers south of fukushima power. if the wind blows this way and even worse if the rain comes in the radiation will shortz arrive to you in full. and i was artie's i repent reporting from japan well the nuclear crisis there continues to unfold as authorities scramble to prevent a total mess meltdown at the power plant now the boss of the tokyo electric power company today broke down in tears as chapin finally acknowledged that the radiation spewing from the nuclear complex is not actually kill from citizens but could this entire crisis have been prevented with this is a stress this is investigative journalist chipchura thank you so much for joining us now before we get to the issues with the tokyo power plant are going to have very quickly authorities have raised the threat level from four to five which is the same as the three mile island disaster is this the situation is getting worse
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or should the higher level been there in the for. place probably should have been there in the first place not a nuclear expert but when i've been following the events of the last couple days it's clear that this was a growing disaster from a few days ago and it's i think they should have been raising it pretty high levels soon as far broke and soon as this or looking like a meltdown right well now that tepco the tokyo electric power company has been known for some shady practices in the past and i know that you've grown up an inch ok you've lived there as a journalist based on your understanding of thing you hear industries relationship with the japanese government is there something to indicate that this crisis perhaps could have been prevented is there this trend of corporate and government interest sort of stepping in line to get there while it's hard to see this could have been prevented because of the disaster is such a bad one i mean this is a terrible earthquake a once in a thousand or a grand and be knocked out the power supplies but yes this particular company has
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had a very bad record on safety it's had a terrible record of actually covering up safety problems actually rewriting reports to make it look like things weren't quite as bad. and the government has kind of you know sometimes taken action against this company and against some of the other nuclear utilities there but there has been a very. very cozy arrangement between the government and the utilities there and you know nuclear power has grown there by leaps and bounds it's fifty four plants that's an interesting thing because i mean in some ways you can argue that the nuclear industry was born out of this terrible tremendous crisis in japan right i mean when we dropped the bomb on hiroshima and nagasaki you would think that a country with such a painful history with nuclear power would be more of her story relying on it how do you think the nuclear industry was sort of able to overcome those that distrust and that we're well this industry grew so large during the period of very rapid growth which started in the one nine hundred sixty s.
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through the one nine hundred seventy s. unbelievable growth of various you know industries huge industries on the coast. petrochemicals steel automobiles all over them all over the country and so you know there was a lot of the way things grew was there was this post relationship between business and the government where there wasn't that much oversight people going back and forth there's a system they called dadi which refers to officials leaving their government posts after they retire and going and getting hired by either companies or industry groups sounds like a street in washington just like washington. you know the problem is there where you have these people that were supposed to be regulating utilities or various companies been going through them right after they quit yes it's the same kind of problem you have here where you don't have this complete independence and so much or you know when you have oversight over a dangerous industry like this you have to have that kind of independence and i wouldn't even say it completely exists here we know the situation in lots of our
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industries and frankly i find it a little hypocritical for our government the united states government to be criticizing japan when we had the corps of engineers completely fail to protect the people or nora leaning out and built levees that collapsed that have drowned hundreds of people and there's been no justice there's been there's been no you know oversight about that and did it all have man as if it's off because hasn't been hit hard enough we found out that the obama administration actually offered four million dollars to tap to build two potential reactors in the gulf coast area which i'm sure was not going to happen after this disaster but what lessons can we draw as parallels between our own industry corporate government relationship and that in japan when it comes to is that dangerous industries well i think that it's not accurate to say that the japanese government reaction has been the same all this time i mean this stuff from and there was a ruling party the liberal democratic party which ruled for almost fifty years
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which was heavily funded at the beginning of its of its time in power by the us cia you can. look it up in the new york times there's an old story in japan this government was kept in power for reasons of the cold war you know japan as a bastion against the soviet union against china against north korea and so on and they supported this this government for years and knowing they had this very close relationship with the industry and i think you know that's that's the kind of system we've definitely don't want to have put unfortunately i think we have a lot of signs that within this country here who have to do some actual thing that's such a crappy grassroots push right now that's sort of been co-opted by certain forces where regulation is bad regulation is bad for business and bad for our economy so do you think in the wake of this crisis maybe some of those forces will be we thought here in the states could we see maybe more regulation of nuclear industry one would certainly hope so and i think it's going to be very hard for any utility to build a new new new nuclear reactor i don't know how long it's been it's been least thirty years it's been a new reactor built here and you know it's just not going to happen and i think you
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know people are looking at these places near the coast of they're going to be close to the tsunami earthquake you know your earthquake zones and yours fault lines and that kind of thing there's a lot of questions going to be all right well a lot of questions remain thank you so much that was course our guest now she's been called she's been called the female mark zuckerberg breaking through the glass ceiling in a field that's been mostly dominated by well young guys who i guess are really good at computers and stuff now along with her brother kathryn cook launched the social networking web site my yearbook dot com in her bedroom while she was still in just high school and today the twenty one year old is at the helm of a successful company which is now worth more than some twenty million dollars she joins us now to talk about her success thank you so much for being here and not me i just want to understand how is that you launch this company in two thousand and five yes when i was fifteen how in the world is it that you know you have been here one of the top most visited one of the top twenty five most visited sites twenty
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five million unique users how is it that you were able to see. excede when you have such intense competition from facebook my space friends circle though i guess no one really uses. well i really think that a huge part of that is just well my yearbook was founded to meet new people and we have since then just because trying to become the best way to meet new people and we try to be very innovative ways of doing so for instance live which is our synchronous gaming platform we just launched the end of january is allows users to do live video chats or playing games and it's a great way to be because you know where you're playing chess is someone alive you want to see that and interact with them in different ways and that's an enormously successful with over half a dozen developers already developing on the market and the average member already . uses it has fifteen video chats per day now one of the issues that we talk a lot about on the show is the issue of privacy which of course facebook has
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struggled with google has struggled with we saw both mark zuckerberg and schmidt of google sort of putting out this message that you know what privacy is really in the hands of the users and that these companies should not be held liable for releasing information because people should be responsible about what they put out there as someone who has this social networking site what's your stance on that i mean whose responsibility is a to protect users privacy well it's really a shared responsibility i mean we but really the responsibility is on the company to make sure that people know exactly what they're sharing by having very simple privacy controls for instance on your bike you cannot go into your settings and have only friends only can view your can view your profile friends only can view your post friends like your messages or you can have everyone and different degrees in between and then that we also have a quarter our headcount is actually got to cater to moderation in member safety so we take privacy and safety concerns very seriously. we we would never sell brands or otherwise provide. my you books numbers informations to third parties without
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their explicit permission and i'm just curious if you guys ever experience. any issues with for example the federal government coming in to try to get information on somebody and we know that twitter had been subpoenaed for records of certain wiki leaks related users and another slice of pet issues have you ever. actually worked with the new jersey state attorney general to come up with our reporting. just to make sure that our members are. and to work with our entire state programs to make sure every. with the value we use best practices and have the same report on every page is very helpful to members to understand what they're doing and what they're sharing and you think you can maybe use this privacy issue as a way of capitalizing to be surpassed mark zuckerberg and facebook certainly has been hit out hard for its privacy but i think that privacy will always be an issue because i mean it's hard to know. how your sharing will really affect but
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i do think that is something minor with this well we do warner members you know don't those things and we allow members to view who actually view their profile which obviously facebook doesn't do so i mean that helps with that issue as well as we have. messages we have notices and every message about the fold letting them know i have to ask i mean it's such a male dominated field how does it feel as a woman is it difficult to sort of succeed and get up there. well i don't think so i mean i mean obviously you're the exemption to the. i mean i guess i was actually entrepreneurship is very limited for women and it's not really in a lot oh we're not sure as i know in fact i was actually at a organization that i was competing for an entrepreneur word very guns do not write and you know i made it into the final rounds top five and so my prize for getting there was a man's watch and cologne are very very old. and i do hope that more women
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will go into that field i hope to be a mentor to some probably hopefully peers will have more women on the show talking about just this now we have much more ahead on the show you thought that you thought that she was just a political pundit but it seems that and culture is now a nuclear scientist and the message from dr polgar is that radiation me actually be good for you going to tackle her claims that are actual times like this forced look makes daniel ellsberg a hero and remy mandates an unpatriotic villain and i've been asked that very question to the man himself mr ellsberg leaked the pentagon papers back in one nine hundred seventy one and showed the world it was actually going on in vietnam going to hear from him after just right after this break.

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