tv [untitled] March 19, 2011 2:00pm-2:30pm EDT
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breaking news this first strike war planes begin patrolling the skies of libya to enforce the un sanctioned no fly zone. but first strike in libya as a french a war plane hits a military target the international community has no fines and has begun. world powers agreed to use all necessary military means to stop any aggression from colonel gadhafi.
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live from our studios here in central moscow this is r.t. with you twenty four hours a day just past nine pm here in the russian capital eight pm in libya where a french fighter jet has fought on a libyan military vehicle it's the first reported strike since the french president ordered planes to patrol the skies over the city of benghazi to prevent attacks against civilians and violence from government troops reported to have carried out attacks on the rebel stronghold let's get the latest from artie's paula slit who's in the capital tripoli for us paula french planes as we're reporting of carrying out the first attack over libya what are you hearing there. well we've received confirmation of that army french ministry there confirming that one of their planes has struck they've turned a military vehicle now what we understand at this stage is that miracle was providing assistance to the military in terms of radar help we're just hearing reports now that i'm now the holes have been attacked difficult to confirm that and immediately or bet would bring the total number of vehicles attacked so far to for
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now the focus at the moment where these french planes are flying is over the rebel held town of benghazi which is the only north eastern part of the country that is where we've seen continued clashes throughout the day today saturday despite because for an immediate cease fire commitment by the government twenty four hours ago it is difficult at this stage no it's ascertain exactly what's been happening on the ground what we're hearing from the rebels is that they've been fired on for three patients government troops they say that some of those troops are coming in on the scene some of them are firing in fact from the sea they also claim that they've been hit by artillery they came and they've been explosions and in strikes we're hearing a very different argument coming from the libyan government itself it says it is carried to the cease fire and says it is in fact the rebels who have been breaking the cease fire intention line attacks all in an effort to. and speed up the international community's response we have heard from the french president nicolas
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sarkozy in terms of those who are planes he has said that as of now. are preventing planes on attacking the town thousands of people have been fleeing sunday magazine throughout the course of the day it is now ninety four now so most people who have been able who will he need to wait until tomorrow but it is significant because traditionally since what we've noticed in the last month that this finding has been ongoing as epigraph expenses are very difficult to operate in one town was so it's unlikely that there will not be any kind of attacks from those forces at least they will have retreated but we know now is a very often a right time it is the rebels who are able to come back. and cities to mobilize themselves into in force insults for the next day what we did notice though today was what can be called sleeper cells and the men there came to the streets they were not seen before holding small weapons and this is something that weapons have warned against in the past few weeks that there are sleeper cells belonging to the gadhafi regime who are operating in all these towns the whole question of and
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ceasefire still remains a very big question mark of more people here are saying that the regime was not serious when it made their call for a ceasefire on friday afternoon gadhafi has warned though we're still powerless and there were a great attack and he says that this is an injustice and also say is that it is invalid if lines in the face of the united nations because they are essentially attacking the sovereign country and interfering with its own internal affairs here in tripoli need for gunfire for the last few hours there are protesters are from the streets approaches the social distance behind me i'm not sure if you can hear them. they've been bandied about to show this of course for. your hearing then support for the regime in effect what are they saying about this international intervention from what the people you've been talking to you governor . well i think it's important to say that those that we've been talking to those that are showing support for gadhafi regime had also been cloned and human shields the libyan state television has the running pictures of these people protesting not
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only from a location that i'm reporting to you from but also hundred after its headquarters will try a short distance from here as well as from several airports and it's not just the stage where they've been fainting these are particularly for those photographs and whether in fact there are afraid of the international community is going to try and if. it's a fight from now throw the whole question of the no fly zone while support about a rebel soldier to kill or so raises concerns even among those who have groups little fanservice the first stick in the international community's response in terms of what to do here in libya what would have his there the u.n. resolution. calls for all necessary measures it also talks about people at risk and people who could be now those are very border financials and people here are concerned that they will be used as an excuse for a much much bigger full scale military intervention. ok r t paul asli a thanks very much indeed for that live report from tripoli in libya well world powers decided to
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enforce the no fly zone at a meeting in paris earlier as they met to work out a course of action and they'll be able to go to our europe correspondent daniel bushell he's been following what's been happening there daniel so tell us what's being said by the leaders following this summit. reports confirmed that some twenty warplanes already should over libya from the french side that involves ruffo's of the rules for its objects as well as it works across the front says that it is too close and lawyers of libya and to stop could look at the fees playing turkey rebels so the initial parisian will live a hundred kilometers per hour hundred fifty kilometers ridden stronghold of big goals if i'm a little somebody. italy were will also provide air bases several of its air bases have been offered which are currently being used by u.s. and italian and nato troops also canada says it's fighter jets over in the region
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and waiting two to cooperate their leader of today's top or a very good new state say they will take part the likes of qatar where the limbs norway belgium say they're also taking part let's listen to what president sarkozy had to say. as we agree to use all necessary means in particular military means to force the u.n. security council decision that's why an agreement with our partners our air force will oppose any aggression from colonel gadhafi against the population of benghazi as of now our own craft are preventing planes from attacking the town as of now other french aircraft are ready to intervene against tanks armored vehicles threatening unarmed civilians. for its proof that nicolas sarkozy the u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton was also the french summit in paris and she said
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that u.s. will use this quote unique capabilities to help the international coalition as it moves into libya but there is growing concern here of double standards in that it's going into an area of libya which is the oil rich and of great commercial interests of the west but several parts of the region where we're seeing horrific escalating it was the last year in ivory coast being you can all by the west which is turning a blind eye to escalating violence there daniel thanks very much indeed that's our correspondent daniel bushell there in our studio well with concerns that a no fly zone over libya could be a cover up for for a full scale engagement antiwar activist jim brown says the u.n. resolution is for the polls. if you can interpret so many things and then i mean what on earth you mean by protecting civilians presumably it means protecting civilians from both sides because there are clear suggestions of atrocities on both
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sides and certainly not a one sided thing but of course i think the central point is that the whole thrust of the intervention is not it seems to me is not a principled thing and that accounts for the for the contradictions and the holes in the resolution i think the whole thing is a mess so the resolution itself is full of holes because i think you have to question the whole process and once you start on a process that is the arab league contradictory then you end up with more and more pitfalls along the wife you have this thing that. for example stayed very largely out of it and then suddenly when the resolution is passed yesterday it makes very specific demands which clearly meant nothing in the resolution that demands that for example the government forces pull back from a series of towns that kind of thing so you have a clear intention to of different parties to make of it what they will and i think that we will see that process roll on what you have is
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a very similar situation going on in in in part ways in many ways exactly the opposite features are in bahrain for example robert gates united states defense secretary goes through. we could go as talks leave and two days later the. gulf cooperation council especially saudi forces go in and they go in and they intervene on the side of those who are suppress similar vote brody's sympathetic to the whole revolt in the in the region in general. but we. i mean for example we want to put it that way to stop a war in my prime but they're stopping the war in basra. i think should be intervening on the side of the government where as in the case of libya they want to stop the war going to be in on the side of the rebels i mean the whole the whole position since for me completely untenable. and full of. well let's get
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more analysis on libya from rick no one he's author of the book humanitarian imperialism joining me now live there in brussels. is an intervention justified now that gadhafi has broken his promise. well. the problem is we're doing great just afraid maybe it's just afraid on the ground by the decision of security council that you see anything to do this is our security council itself because against the age of international law because there is no real you know it's an internal problem too of libya and this will be a still a menace to what we are doing in effect now as you hear the news we are seeing that we are trying to block and get a feel from harming civilians now the fact of the matter is that whether we like it or not there is an ounce of action in libya now maybe for that insurrection i
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gained of insulation i'm not judging but students are numb insurrection now give me a gun and in the world it doesn't try to suppress an ounce of action. it is reasonable to piss on selection outside of them only. when will that happen to the . little damage when little we can all use the us that knows how to question integration real time intervene in trade only directly against the way to do it in baghdad in yemen in lebanon of the occupied territories at the car and in. i don't think there's any evidence they get their fees are going to be in for the sake of how insidious so why do you think they are white and i just ask you then you also questions why don't we see intervention elsewhere why are we just saying this intervention then in libya one of the main reasons. that is very difficult to understand i don't believe in that many people that is due to already they don't believe that. they're feeling. you know it's an old person and his medium civil.
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enemies will discourage all the years as a number of friends in africa he certainly made him sit in an easel for most utopian panels and also of the arab league and of course of the people in the east of the country. so. he miscalculated in the beginning anything and then as they never got close they saw distant intervention school to school of intervention in the west which has been growing since council and it's been somewhat sent back to the problems in afghanistan in the hack but i'm going to come back in just for you many many to intervention will it can indeed be a goose a perfect case because it's a villain it's not the friend of the west the hero of the end of the list even though it's nicholas online and he's facing a number of billion and then the kids will claim to intervene in many encounters because it will be shown isn't there a difference here that in fact what we've got is a dictator who's been in power for forty years. many people would say this is
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people power speaking at last it's their efforts to achieve democracy from a very undemocratic dictator and therefore they need help because he is killing them in their effort to achieve democracy. but that from whom you see she put the head came from to kill from the hand of from the actual something then using their wits with another i mean there is a basic problem for me is that the international order was based on the causal until forced into the nun coffee and into nothing for the state this is still the principle which has been those of the un implicitly where you play can please name your pushchair indian chain that works thing from the truth and did the president of the falun article creation of the world and the western countries who want to go to war then move over to germany and. see what it is germany have seen write this in a g. to receive it in europe i think just because the hoping to be didn't see
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a reason to go to war you have here is an angle to will i mean he will say we have a no fly zone but what is in the phrasal is not enough to handle the. question on the ground we build in pins from the get as you say who knows then they have to bomb their troops if you go in the troops too good to be a war what is the latest going to battle going to be on who's going to intervene if this is even worse i mean all this into a new he's no clue to know what's going to happen because he knew what was going to happen with that and integrate a situation that interaction and radiation when they really were surprised a city like can i just read me a painting sorry. a lot of topics to cover here but what i would like to was here is though that you draw comparisons with afghanistan and also iraq what is interesting here that this intervention although you said that various countries including germany have abstained from military intervention for voting for that in the un resolution what we do have is support from the arab league from arab countries involved here isn't that significant. not feeling well i
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don't think incessantly because then if you speak of dictatorship those countries can also receive a dictatorship this is a will most of the nation will and even in tunisia and egypt there's been no elections are illegal has pretty nearly does not mean this isn't just western intervention and western influence when all that's really what i feel that's cool that's cool that's cool but you want in there mention of it with the internal affairs of it with the us on the basis of the city was mean what was it you want to have for international law that i would think there should be concern about that. you know russia's concern about the expansion of nato this thinking of nato and the threat to explode us and i think that criticisms of i think we should all be concerned about the fact that we have a sort of the jewel in the seems to me of the problem here in either case and even you know support for the intervention that we see of because there also distinction in the in the is a vision and we see with this additionally being followed to the letter where you
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on telling us what you're seeing which isn't because you couldn't possible for example they didn't happen in the world you know they were in that is an illusion that put an end to the civil war they were the provisions they couldn't tell of a certain number of serbian troops in order to protect the city of the that was never implemented and should not forget that in the new yorker solution and then they are violated by the well to act in this in within a second because of the decree of intervention so we can see certain wait and see what are your concerns now that we're going to see a long drawn out conflict as we've seen in iraq and afghanistan and it also i don't know of but i will know because it can be can be a very short of a charade maybe that the regime collapses that then of course what will happen is that they'll become a full more intervention you see that's exactly what happened at the crucible causal well if you look this from the point of view of the west and religion because they saw what happened there was in favor of intervention that led to the
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second of the possible letters. and in the case of legion and clear to the situation back in again he's leaving the situation even if the media goes running from the brains of you're going to impose we have to see what the future of this what i'd like to know what you think about the future if that regime does talk about peoples here we have support for opposition who is the opposition who in fact will be taking over after this if it does indeed and quite soon. i don't know that they know little of you know your position only saying that they know exactly what their position is because in any case you know anywhere from the east of the city edging in to put the example to the east of the of the world that you get a little bit of a position is when it's in their position and when it comes to go in front of the opposition use it it looks like he's usually come super wants them to go that may be a different matter than the that they don't know could. be if you did a good that you see what they cannot expect when they cannot believe those who is
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going to into all the talk of the free gift go to the opposition and the heat which they should do within the world the world do we want to interfere in the internal affairs of your for longer than just lovely the libyans do it with a heart that's impossible to feel that none of them that anywhere and because a lot of the let the system pretty closely it was laid into the little being that's all it is for i finally don't know how to enter into it is that funny let's just look at the flip side of the scenario and gadhafi does actually hold on by the looks of things he's he's doing a pretty good job of it of the moment and do you think then if he does hold on what would the consequences be good or bad i mean what would the scenario be. but the question is why should you get involved in that you see we have a what happened with the help of allusion to the policy we have in the world as being a total collapse ok we're supposed it is the legal the dictators who supported we are supposed to say police and so on and this is projected day later he just
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doesn't mean to speak now we found this sort of strange they get their feet everything and by acting against him we can meet the legitimacy in the eyes of the world and maybe we will get some legitimacy that isn't going to end the poll we have in the palestinian palestine they're going on in iraq and so it seems to me that the way this thing for the west to get girls of it and get stuck there if you wish of the previous police in the police in that scene is the policy of playing to failure world at a distance or not so much of the distance but doing it in to be true even in the we used to do collusion thing that you cannot do anything about this and this is the to me interesting in fact in the story john we're going to have to finish. a lengthy lengthy chat with you or appreciate your time here in r.t. thanks for joining us live in brussels and you're as you recall the author of the picture you know in turning friends don't buy into. well by the way you can follow
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all the latest developments in libya on our twitter and facebook pages we've got links to all our videos and regular updates. it's. russia's foreign ministry said it regrets the international intervention in libya it's called on all sides in the country to do all they can to stop the suffering of peaceful citizens and to put in place an immediate cease fire that's the latest we're hearing from the russian foreign ministry let's just remind you of our breaking news this hour concerning libya of course a french fighter jet is part of the libyan military vehicle as the first reported
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strike since the french president ordered planes to patrol the skies over the city of benghazi to prevent attacks against civilians and that's after dinner violence with government troops reported to have carried out attacks on the rebel stronghold let's not get the latest from. the capitol hill police force so paula as we know french planes are carried out but first attack over the country what are you hearing there at the moment what's the latest. well the latest we're hearing and that there are now twenty french aircraft that are flying over libya and that they have reportedly struck saw military targets and most of this is happening around the town of bint gars in the northeast of the country we know that at the stage of been tasked with only so they need perimeter of the city and pilots have been tasked and given the go here to act as they see fit if indeed they find anything suspicious on the ground if they see anything suspicious in terms of tanks or any kind of aircraft we haven't yet had any word in terms of what is the british
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and the dutch involvement or not practically away they are at the moment but certainly this international response to what is happening here in libya is well underway what is the response to that international intervention there. a lot of anger amongst particularly good after a regime they feel that the international community is interfering in what gadhafi has termed its own internal affairs of turkey when you look at rebels particularly in the stronghold of benghazi where all of this is focused at the moment they are welcoming the international community's response we are however hearing from the time of misrata which is third largest town in libya today there has been fighting near but at this stage it doesn't seem as if the international community is focusing any of its aircraft there so that is one of the only criticisms we're really hearing from the rebels themselves in terms of how the international community is dealing with the situation calls live thanks very much and the paula reporting live from libya no doubt more from paula throughout the day this is our two coming to you live from the russian capital we'll bring you all the latest
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developments occurring in libya not a british opposition m.p. jeremy corbin says his country has been very selective when deciding where military intervention is necessary. i think the tactic yes he was to call a ceasefire in order to hope for one hope to bring about a peaceful resolution of this conflict but it was beginning to look as though he was just trying to buy time for himself i must say i absolutely regret the lack of the ceasefire and regret what is happening at the moment a lot of innocent people are already there i do know a lot more look as though they're going to die in the next few hours if they strike against. military targets of the regime then they might be effective in doing that but i suspect the real problem is they're going to have to strike against targets in the cities not result in large numbers of million casualties this is a terrible situation an awful lot of innocent people are going to die because of the situation and i think there's a lot of double standards going on here because what is happening in libya is
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obviously terrible and obviously get our fish should have heeded the views of ordinary people and come to some kind of accommodation with them all removed himself from office but. it's been no condemnation worthy of anything against saudi arabia yemen or a martin who've also been killing large numbers of civilians totally over the last few weeks and i think that the west has been very selective about this was the u.n. has put in place a resolution calling for a no fly zone and that is obviously they have not used the words regime change a little that's clearly what's intended and if they go ahead with this and it doesn't work then the next thing is going to be what do you do next you're putting ground forces in if you put in ground forces where they come from because i can't imagine that any arab league country is going to want to put troops into libya for very obvious reasons the same thing could happen there remember the arab league is led by a lot of people that are all under threat themselves and now there's
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a worry that we're getting ourselves involved in yet another war and yet another conflict which is essentially an internal civil war in libya and at the same time only six weeks ago. britain was selling arms to libya buying oil from libya bullish countries were investing in libya i mean libya was interesting heavily in this country and so it's in a very short space of time that libya has gone from most favored nation to zero and one sort of one does the speed of all this and many of those that are now calling for a bombing of libya were only a few weeks ago in libya doing business deals. which is to remind you of our breaking news the first strike by the french military have been reported in libya a french fighter jet as far on the libyan military vehicle there also been reports that four tanks have been destroyed in another strike it's the first attack since the french president ordered planes to patrol the skies over the city of benghazi to prevent attacks against civilians and that's after violence with government troops reported to have carried out attacks on the rebel stronghold. well this is
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