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oh the costs. us. hey guys welcome to shell and tell me alone a show we've heard our guests have to say on the topic now i want to hear our audience is going to you tube the video response part of twitter for part of the question that we post on you tube every monday and on thursday when the show long response is. let your voice be heard.
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all right it's time for tonight's tool time award and it goes to a repeat winner who also learned earned this award last week donald trump is making a lot of noise about a possible two thousand and twelve presidential bid lately he's done this before and most people think that he is just seeking publicity again because we all know that this man loves the spotlight really meantime he sure is giving us a lot to talk about this morning of the donald called into fox news to discuss the u.s. military actions in libya and one of the host asked what makes him qualified to be president he made this claim i've been interacting with leaders of countries or leaders of business all over the world all of my life and i think you guys know that probably better than anybody i think i probably have more experience at anybody. so trump has more experience than anyone else i mean yes i'm sure that he has made a lot of international business deals and i can definitely help but then again his
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business empire has had to file for bankruptcy protection several times time not quite sure that that sounds like a man that's called to be president from then went on to talk about his experience in dealing with world leaders including moammar gadhafi. and i could tell you something terrible shot i don't want to go free i don't want to believe what. i read to them a piece of land he paid me where you are now you can get it where it was rough but every year after two years i don't get a little news story ok we should be doing. got ego much donald donald trump didn't tell you there was that yes he made a lot of money off of renting that land took it off but at the time when the deal was made he didn't even know who the renter was it was only one area residents and local officials complained that it was the libyan leader staying in the area then donald trump stepped in and i guess you could say screwed over for it was a pretty sloppy business deal to me poor management the you don't even know who
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you're making deals with and then whoever you hired obviously isn't favorable of passing that information on to you either so the donald is now just making stuff up to boost his ego and spread false information on fox news and that's why he's tonight's full time winner. now it seems as if sarah palin has gone globe trotting after taking a private trip to india the former alaskan governor made a stop in israel and has plans to meet with prime minister binyamin netanyahu this evening as they would also out there find a little troubling that sarah pailin actually has the clout to meet with the head of state because i'm sure you now on her trip she's made the typical pro israel comments we've come to expect such as i'm very thankful to know that the israeli and american link will grow in strength and we seek peace. along with you however i think we all know that peace is the last thing that sarah palin is seeking she supported bombing iran she criticized obama even on this trip for not bombing libya sooner but anyway should we call this
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a random bake ation for balan or is this her way of brushing up on foreign policy before announcing her run for the presidency through the visit just adds more fuel to the speculation that she is planning for running in two thousand and twelve and it seems as if many other g.o.p. hopefuls have done the exact same thing paling is the most recent politician to visit israel but visits from mitt romney mike huckabee and haley barbour have made many analysts wonder if this is the new path to the white house perhaps the neo-cons held some kind of a secret seminar telling any of the potential republican contenders the weapon you need to do to win the g.o.p. what they need to do to win the g.o.p. ticket and we don't know for sure but i think this is how we see the republican hopefuls traveling the first stop is israel our efforts to strengthen u.s. ties with the country obviously remain a top priority booster foreign policy chops all proving or lesions to israel then you had back to the united states where new hampshire usually ends up in the spotlight and sure this is looking ahead but it seems that
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a candidate if they can do well in the primaries in new hampshire and they've got a good chance for about iowa they could do well with new hampshire and iowa and you've got the primaries in the bag so first stop israel next stop the primaries it's the road to the white house straight through tell of the and pale and huckabee and darker all seem to be making that trek. yesterday hundreds gathered quantico marine base in virginia to peacefully protest the abusive treatment of bradley manning they were met with hundreds of police in riot gear and the arrest and the taint of over thirty people are feeling forty ports. in photos he's a smiling twenty three year old army private. but for two hundred and ninety nine days bradley manning has been behind bars accused of passing top secret cables war logs and videos to whistle blowing web site wiki
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leaks here in quantico hundreds of activists and veterans have gathered outside of the military base where bradley manning is being held in solitary confinement twenty three hours a day they say he's being tortured to call for his immediate release although president obama says otherwise i have actually asked the pentagon whether or not. the procedures that have been taken in terms of his confinement are appropriate and are meeting our basic standards and they assured me that they are state department spokesman p.j. crowley called manning's treatment quote ridiculous counterproductive and stupid and was forced to resign. well meaning scott or denounce the pentagon for stripping his son of his clothing and forcing him to stand at attention naked i mean it's shocking enough that i would. come on you know our silence as a family and say you know this you know you crossed the line this is wrong
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protesters here denounced obama and say guantanamo bay has been brought to virginia they say the president can do better than simply trusting manning's jailers i've been saying probably in confinement and i can tell you probably is not doing well but if i could see really getting excited. to believe that i think whistleblower daniel ellsberg responsible for leaking the vietnam war logs known as the pentagon papers called manning a hero i want his sample if courage for other people. the more that other people realize. the descriptions which are gone to give us the word of being a traitor. to have you know the truth. appreciate it but everybody that we. were before being arrested it with thirty five others for refusing to move from the entrance to quantico. also but not
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everyone in the space town felt bradley had done the right thing knowing. that this man who these people are protesting clue or my husband's life presents friends lives in danger. and denied that he was being tortured the worst torture they can do is to give. it's not he's not being tortured even as amnesty international and other human rights groups say his conditions are quote degrading and bring back memories of abu ghraib the pentagon has not set a trial date for manning who faces twenty two charges including aiding the enemy which could carry the death penalty but activists here and around the world so he won't back down until he's free killing ford artsy triangle virginia. so as hundreds of protesters rallied at quantico this weekend in support of bradley manning i have to ask if that means that america is finally beginning to pay attention to his treatment or if this couple hundred are the only ones listening
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joining me from our studio in new york is michael whitney with firedoglake dot com michael thanks so much for joining us tonight now i know that you were there at the protest yesterday quantico and from all the video that i have seen it looks like a peaceful event but how many police came out there in riot gear. whole lot of protest the police the protests came out in full riot gear with shields and there was probably about a half dozen army officers who were had full machine guns as well as tear gas canisters and gas masks it was probably about even between the protesters and the police force and it was really a completely unnecessary show of force by the virginia state police as well as by the corner coleraine base that was completely unnecessary given the largely peaceful protests that happened it was a whole bunch of people who were seen songs and chanting who wanted to torture
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bradley manning to stop immediately and i know that about thirty people there were arrested including daniel ellsberg who also got arrested on saturday actually while protesting in front of the white house and then got arrested a second time on sunday but i'm just curious dan ellsberg who is on this program on friday he's an eighty year old man how many cops did it take the arrest daniel ellsberg. it was actually really creepy how they sort of the arresting people it was a little like the body snatchers there was a whole line of riot police that was approaching the group of about thirty people who were sitting on the ground in front of the marine base and the riot police line inched up and it would open up for about a split second and three other riot police would jump in and haul one person away at a time the line we closed back up that person would be arrested put into a prison or a bus and it would just go again it was actually
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a very slow process but on average it didn't take about three riot police to arrest one of the peaceful protesters we're not talking about thugs that were out there trying to cause trouble among the protesters we're talking to a whole bunch of other lead people and students who were upset that they were denied access to the memorial in front of quantico marine base where they had an agreement with the marine corps to lay flowers on that memorial in honor of fallen marines the police are in a gun they're part of the deal at the last minute forced daniel ellsberg and for other people to put their flowers through these bars that were wrecked blocking not just the protesters but the entire public from the e.u. would you morial at quantico and that was enough for colonel and right and daniel ellsberg who on the way back from putting the flowers decided to sit down in front of the marine base in civil disobedience against the really raw deal that was cut
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by the virginia state police and point home base definitely doesn't sound like much of a deal or at all representation of your first amendment rights but i also want to ask you there was a hundred a couple hundred people there yesterday do you think that finally this means that people are starting to wake up to the story of bradley manning we've been covering it on this show here from months but you know last week after p.j. crowley after barack obama spoke about it finally the new york times this cited to editorialize it finally people have decided that it's really going on but is it still just a couple hundred people that really care enough to come out and protest only. it's not all on our own at firedoglake we've organized more than fifty thousand people in support of bradley manning and there are tens of thousands more across the globe when thirty cities around the world held rallies for bradley manning yesterday in show solidarity and what we're seeing now is quite different than when you first
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started covering this story back in december when very few people actually knew let alone cared about the conditions in which bradley manning was being very unjustly held in which he is continued to be held we're seeing now something that is that is waking up and that frankly for bradley manning's abusers as well as president obama who with one phone call could stop this torture it's too late for them to contain this the momentum is building and it's a matter of time for this to really pick up a lot momentum that already has but in the last week the new york times l.a. times san francisco chronicle the guardian the economist have all editorialized against the torture of bradley manning and it's up to president obama now to take action to make the phone call and stop the torture of bradley manning and i think you're right and you say the cat's out of the bag and there's not a threat from the obama administration michael thank you so much for joining us
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thanks for having me. now we're taking a short break we're going to return pastor terry jones finally got to burn the koran that he's been saying for this time he held a mock trial first and then police all over the united states are being trained to fight terrorism but wait until you hear about the so-called experts thirteen thousand. rachel martin here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture a. new web site with twenty four seven live streaming news towns what to do about the
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our guys it's time for show and tell on tonight's program and last thursday we discuss discuss the global impact of a nuclear disaster in japan and we asked you what help does globalization make us more vulnerable to chain reactions if disaster strikes in japan and doesn't affect us all and here's what some of you had to say darrell them all responded on facebook and said i think the news media is hyping the earthquake and tsunami in japan yes we need to know what's going on there but on the flip side there are more
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problems here with us greg miller says if there's no environmental global impact the situation in japan is having an impact on our domestic policy and opinion geno reverse roses gave us her feedback now that we're living in a global village will be directly affected in an economical and geopolitical way no way to avoid that and miles lacey said the united states often doesn't appreciate the disasters in places like new zealand and japan can impact the u.s. because it takes time before the full impact of a disaster takes effect and as always we appreciate your feedback and here's our next topic of discussion we've spoken about the u.s. involvement in libya and today's show while president obama swears that this is an effort by the coalition and he's out those statements wondering if this really are the first steps towards another war for the u.s. but if you remember then presidential candidate obama vowed not to be like his predecessor. so has he let his supporters down going against his own promise for the campaign trail so let us know what you think has obama be trade voters by
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starting his own military conflict abroad you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows your response just might make it on air. over the weekend a small church in gainesville florida burned a copy of the koran now does that sound vaguely familiar to you he met her back in september of last year when pastor terry jones of that same church originally planned on burning of korans of september eleventh we had a rare opportunity to speak with jones about his radical approach to dealing with islam. well we believe it is our culture to show we're ready to stand up and say your opinion of course it is a radical thing to do but we believe that you talk. and we believe that you. and the koran is that dangerous a really bad means or necessary. after receiving a lot of hate mail even a request from robert gates the defense secretary himself pastor jones called off
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the burning of the koran thankfully that is until now what another pastor at the exact same church way in south carry out the burning of a koran during a service but the really crazy part of all this is that according to records of the church held a trial and after deliberating for about eight minutes it was decided that the koran was guilty of what we don't know but then he was sentenced to death pastor south and took a copy of the koran which had been soaking in kerosene and then lit on fire with a barbecue lighter so why did the church go back on its word apparently jones had given the muslim community a chance to defend their book but says that he didn't receive any response how shocking of the muslim community didn't feel the need to explain itself to a psychopath and let's not forget that there actually was quite a response to pastor jones the first time around how about the initial outcry from muslims when they learned that their holy book would be the. people took to the streets burning the american flag calling out the us for its obvious display of
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islamophobia it was me this just looks like pastor jones and his church were desperately searching for an excuse to burn that qur'an after all and performing a fake trial would be their way of defending those actions and anything to draw attention to their hateful world view i'm certainly not shocked the pastor jones are back on his promise he it is pat he and his buddy pastor wayne are back in full force spreading islamophobia and destroying the koran some people i guess will never change the lure of spreading hate is just too strong and that's why we are the country have to fight back on that hateful intolerance of people like terry jones and wayne sack nonviolently or by burning anything to say something please. and two weeks ago representative peter king began hearings on radicalization within the american muslim community on capitol hill where he claimed that there wasn't enough cooperation by the muslim community with law enforcement agencies and reality seventy percent of recent terror plots in the u.s. have been foiled thanks to muslim americans maybe the more important question to
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ask is how law enforcement is being trained to find these threats since nine eleven federal money has been pouring into programs to bring local police forces into national counterterrorism efforts and experts have been hired to train police on the fundamentals fundamentals of is long and how to spot a terrorist but if you take a deeper look into these training courses the picture isn't pretty you see for oversight questionable accreditation practices and experts with no background in his law or counterterrorism who teach our cops that all muslims want to take over america joining me from southern sudan is journalist joshua craze joshua thanks so much for joining us you know in reading this piece here it doesn't really seem like it takes all that much to become one of these experts in terms of your background or accreditation to teach the police does it. you know i've heard it can be pretty easy one of the difficulties with a lot of people who train the police claiming to be involved in black a lot or in the cia and it's very difficult to get accreditation of those sort of
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qualifications so a lot of the people training either claim to be in the marines or a lot of them including one person perhaps in florida or over fifty was from the middle east and because after one listen there was such a demand a trade off the police and america anyone who had some little thin piece of key like some curb could establish themselves and career so we know how much federal money has actually been flowing into these programs i know that obviously since nine eleven this has been initiated and that the demand is only going to continue to increase. we don't know exactly how much of these programs going to come to so many different sources so some states might get money for instance for reinforcing to even choose to spends on getting these very cancers and train has been repaired at least against the danger of wearing a hat. but right now because you have something called that the national security we are suspicious but you would think you're posing initiative i'm not asking for
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the police to compile a list of terrorist activity but they would in the field in the data center. now initially when they put out the first draft of this they were asked to walk and look suspicious activity like taking photographs of objects which unfortunately little knife or so powerful so you have the use of these police pieces on the street know who because of suspicious activity being treated by people who are teaching them to head movements wearing headbands or at least some people wearing big bands from us want to be marked. now a kind of black and white approach and over simplification at least are you know also from a number of other of these experts and trainers that you highlighted where they say that islam is overall goal is just to dominate civilization you know to dominate america that can't be good for law enforcement as a whole that can't be good for counterterrorism efforts and we haven't officials on the highest ranks even spoken out against these practices.
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human rights issues it's going to. be less think i'm. going to read a whole series of false reports that you can always turn. over sort of. so what you have. how can you sort of. check out the how that money is actually used and because you think that's the. bigger matter here is that. billions of dollars could go down. so we have federal my going to states where the federal government can actually track where there are very shoddy accreditation practices and now these people are training the police why don't why do you think we don't hear more of these local police officers speaking out somebody has to realize hey i don't think this guy's an expert i don't think the world is that simple. well what we
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found were in one of these terminals where the couple gets terminals with the first a fair amount of people stews were suspicious could dispute my get your department in trouble it might get you in trouble but the minute you seem ungrateful so little of the interim about getting ahead in your career you just take for granted that some of the truth is going to be bad sad when it's fun and it was a lot of people who love these trains and thought they were one of the people and part of the problem there is that if previously you are doing the trading and shoot . you can see if you're if you're the guy g.g. was a good shot it's a very simple system the valuation in the end at least on the consumer becomes the king of the market but the problem when you're pitching someone about islamic i don't know one that is the local guy who makes you laugh the next humans head so some of the saddest scenes that we came across when we were doing this investigation people who said you know joshua i'm going to realize that islam is a trip and i was in a strange but now i know and now i'm going to watch out for those. so
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a whole bunch of people who can read it for me we're islamic worried about it but need to be motivated towards income because they can even. hire many thanks very much for joining us joshua that definitely doesn't make me feel comfortable about the way of life and conducting our counterterrorism operation here thanks so much thank you very much. now before we go tonight it's time for our tweeted the day president obama promised americans today the u.s. military operation in libya will take an matter of days not weeks and he has it off the coalition partners to take the lead so what would the american people tweet to president obama about we've heard that one before and now it's a pretty night show thanks for tuning in to make sure to come back tomorrow happy hour is coming early this week we'll have a special guest reasons michael going to have you are and want to sit in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the a lot of show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of the night's show or any other nights at the always catch all that you tube slash a lot of show where we post interviews as well as the show in its entirety coming
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