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only. broadcasting live from our studios in central moscow where it is at seven thirty in the morning around six thirty in the morning in libya where nato is set to take command of the no fly zone over libya with the u.s. led coalition continuing with air strikes on tripoli for six night a row this comes as fierce fighting between pro-government and rebel forces intensifies in misrata with it could off these tanks the siege in the city hospital . clashes in brussels over austerity measures and military spending on libya has even leaders meet for
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a debt summit. and three more workers are exposed to dangerous levels of radiation at the stricken fukushima nuclear plant in japan. coming up in about thirty minutes time and my colleague in our way will be here with a full look at your news but first it's back to the second part of the alyona show next alan asks does the road to the white house begin in israel this after five republican hopefuls make trips there stay with us. renia you believe there's something missing. from. the future of our. time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to a man who just can't seem to decide how he feels about the u.s.
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involvement in libya former speaker newt gingrich is putting himself front and center in the news world and hey you've got to have the your face if you're going to run for president right now when news outlets fire off questions at him about how he feels about libya it seems as if well newt's been a little bit confused check out his response to libya on fox news on march eighth. doesn't need anybody's permission we don't need to have nato we don't who frankly won't bring much to the fight we don't need to have the united nations all we have to say is that we think that slaughtering your own citizens are uninsured people and there we are we intervening. all right so new it sounded like he was all for intervention there but what happened when he did an interview on n.b.c.'s the today show just a few days later on march twenty third. i would not have intervened i think there are a lot of other ways to a for profit i think there are a lot of allies in the region that we could have worked with i would not have used american and european forces. wait a minute so now new is against intervention looks like new was all for the no fly
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zone until obama actually implemented it so now of course he has to be against it just like a true republican it all comes down to disagreeing with the president no matter what screw your morals or any of your principles so how do you fix this whole p.r. mess oh by using your social media objects of course first newt took to twitter where he explained himself in just under one hundred forty characters and he said. given choice use allies not americans after obama on march third says gadhafi has to go make sure he goes obama change the choice i hope so now i get it it's obama's fault that newt had to flip flop p.s. talk about a cryptic tweet somebody needs to reach him how twitter works so twitter is clearly not his strong point but surely he can use facebook great so honest facebook page you wrote a letter to his fans explaining why he flip flops and in it he pointed out that on march third obama said it was time for gadhafi to go and then say after march third
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the president should have moved immediately to consult with congress to implement a no fly zone while also making it clear the u.s. would welcome involvement from other nations instead he did the opposite now sadly this comic got four hundred and twenty likes i don't know why his argument still doesn't make any sense to me so now he's opposed it because of the date on the calendar oh wow he really is a politician as any human is so desperate to put himself against the president that he can't even come up with a solid argument for himself or for his disagreement with the president's moves at this point it only looks worse than he already did so far as contradictions his poor social media skills gingrich it's the nights to a time where. how does the road to the white house begin in israel it sure seems that way especially especially since g.o.p. presidential hopefuls like huckabee giuliani romney barbour and pale and have all been parked on a trip to the middle eastern country so how important is
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a photo op in television in the race for president artie's lauren lyster has the answer. the pilgrimage of presidential hopefuls of the western wall a photo op with netanyahu all first stops ahead of a possible run for the u.s. top spot in some ways i think of israel as the new iowa you know it's like sort of the indicator that you're running for president is a trip to israel but why go all the way to tell of the inserts. the holy grail it's a rite of passage for presidential term of the. power of. money jewish and pro israel money accounts for between one quarter and one third of all donations to the major political parties some estimate higher and one former congresswoman put it this way the executive branch the. legislative branch pro israel federal campaign contributions amounted to more than eleven point seven million dollars in two thousand and ten leaving other foreign and defense
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policy contributions along with human rights women's issues the environment and gun rights donations in the dust and this power of the purse has built a reputation in washington for the most powerful pro israel political group in the country i think what a pack of fun guest has impressed upon candidates and elected officials that they can punish people who vote the wrong way and that they can reward people who vote the right way rumblings of which could be heard at the height of tensions between the white house in israel over settlements last spring and the way some members talked about president obama's fate i think he may very well be a one term president the jews now in the last few months we've seen a parade of g.o.p. politicians through the holy land a stance of leaders boost their foreign policy credentials huckabee romney giuliani barbour and most recently of course paling who is known for her uncompromising
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support for the state of israel who is known in the u.s. when it comes to international aptitude by her infamous lack of it you can actually see russia from land here in alaska and if candidates like pailin are hoping to gain insight into the middle east it doesn't take a political analyst to see a major part of the picture is missing someone has cerebral what she thought about the west bank and social values wells fargo but critics argue an accurate view of the issue. use is just not really the point just goes through tourism comes for genes. from her presidential for the. reason and a broader perspective might not matter much to the future of u.s. foreign policy anyway the people of the united states joe they're sure representation when it comes to their value versus values troll israel lobby so all of this helps to explain why first stop on the international tour is it say
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china with its rise in the world is taking us bonds or russia which the u.s. is trying to reset relations with or saudi arabia with the planned u.s. sales of sixty billion dollars in arms to counter a rerun or even the u.k. which is the other part of the so-called special relationship but instead wide potential presidents on the surface looking to boost their foreign policy street creds bypass all of these other countries and head straight to the stump in just one lauren lyster r.t. new york. so you have to wonder do most americans even know or care about the road to white house goes through israel yes israel is america's ally yes the jewish lobby is very powerful in washington but how much of america as in the public and their interests do they really represent so joining me from our studio in new york is our chief correspondent for in leicester lauren obviously right now we're talking about these possible republican presidential candidates that are making
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their trips but is this a requirement for democrats as well. i'm glad you asked that because they do want to point out that it is both right now we're seeing republicans because obviously obama is up for reelection in two thousand and twelve but experts say that both sides of the aisle do this and it's very important and if you look back to the two thousand and eight elections ahead of that we saw obama ad words clinton all making trips clinton also going when she was a senator for new york so definitely both sides of the aisle make these trips i'm just curious who pays for these trips i mean the some of the come out of their own pockets do they raise money. well in many cases it's actually the jewish political organizations that pay for them the republican jewish coalition was in talks for to send pale and she did not and going through them but they sent a barber they sent mitt romney back in two thousand and seven they sent george w. bush's well years ago a pac is reported to have funded mitt romney's trip to his most recent one to israel according to israeli publications and reports so it is the organization that
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at times do do fund these trips and encourage candidates to go and plant them now the u.s. of course considers israel one of its closest allies but also something the president after president after president vows to do is to bring peace to the middle east and to help facilitate this peace process so when they go on these trips do they make it over into the gaza strip as well. well that's one of the main issues that activists that i interviewed for my story bring up is that they don't they don't go to gaza and they say without understanding the true dynamic between palestinians and israelis you can understand the conflict and you can understand why someone like say general petraeus would say that the arab world view of the u.s. as being pro israel and the peace process. and command over the region is issues they have to deal with and strategy and with gaza being considered by some a humanitarian crisis and occupied territory they they don't understand that dynamic and they say that's a real issue now only two percent of the entire u.s.
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population is jewish but if we talk about money and influence when it comes to elections and campaigns and how much of it is really come from organizations like impact. well one thing i want to point out i'm glad you said that apec doesn't directly donate to candidates so doubts an important distinction but it is a powerful group and lobbying in washington by a pro israel lobby is like a pack amounts to several million dollars but as far as contributions as i had some estimates in my report but those are pretty conservative and the ones that are a little more recent is for a scholarly research in two thousand and six showed that up to sixty percent of the money that democratic presidential candidates look towards and the president and the democratic party looks towards and federal elections they rely on sixty percent of it coming from private money from the jewish population so it's very significant and then for republicans that number is more like thirty five percent so we're
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talking about a lot of money coming from just a very small percentage of population and i'm just curious you know how does this trip to israel to show your support really play out with the christian right. well you know that's kind of sarah palin in my cock in me huckabee and some of these republican candidates are really getting a twofer here because for the christian right israel is one of the issues that they have very strong religious support for and in fact some of the lobbies that are pro israel are christian so this is this is a big big benefit to some of these republican candidates and going and even. organized through a christian group that's how she ended up it's been reported going to israel actually caused some controversy because the republican jewish coalition was in talks and they wanted to take her but it just shows that that this is a christian issue as well but i guess it makes a little more sense then right when you think of how much money is put towards these issues that it's not just two percent of the population but it definitely is
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the new road to the white house learned thanks. sorry guys it's show and tell on tonight's program now on monday we wanted to know how our viewers felt about the u.s. involvement in libya president obama seems to have gone back on his promise as a candidate to not be like his predecessors who let our country into battle so we asked you how is obama betrayed voters by starting his own military conflict abroad and here's what some of you had to say robert beasley replied on facebook and said it was a lose lose situation no matter how the us reacted at least this way we can say that at least we did not stand idly by while a dictator who promised to slaughter countless civilians did just that amount kumar thinks of the president has failed the people he said not only is voters but the international community as a whole especially the norwegian nobel committee who prematurely awarded him the
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nobel peace prize aid in smith's disagrees he says the libyan people needed help the international community even the dutch are bombing at the moment this is not about obama or america tommy dr mahathir said yes obama hats are guard list of whether it's a un mandate the us does not have to participate and you still need approval of congress to fund the conflict and on twitter we heard from the daily banter who said i would certainly say so alone a liberal interventionism was part of the package so clearly this is a very divisive issue that we're very happy to hear what all of you have to say and that brings us to our next question now is the u.s. is involved everyone is struggling including president obama to determine who should be in charge of this situation the french the arabs nato so we want to know what you think it's not the u.s. who should be in command of the mission in libya you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows your response just might make it on air. now we're taking a short break and when we return as a war brewing with in anonymous the hacker group has most recently come to the
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defense of wiki leaks we'll give you all the details and then it's slowly becoming more clear who the republican candidates are going to be for twenty call them all i can say is it's kind of scary lead. such. luck fish. stocks plunged. the. cultures that so much of a given it is a huge reason to share the burden on the markets the session time up any game looms for the conflict in libya what are the ultimate aims of the u.s. and its allies what is best for people on the. plane. the incident. sixty years after man's first flight the flames of species race original like brand new russians need a new more insight private companies now enter the flight to explore the cosmos
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steam they're running right species list one technology a list of the future covered. in canada and the us that it is legal for you to use a bulb on your baby that contains a known carcinogen something that causes cancer most of the shines in most independent they are sponsored by the industry and most of the current grade though i'm not claiming it's a conflict of interest today an average cancer drug prescription costs nearly one thousand six hundred dollars a month i got when nobody was cancer and my father therefore i protect so much because ninety to ninety five percent of cancers hurt people with the family history of cancer the pharmaceutical industry spends about fourteen percent of their budget on research and development and about thirty one percent for marketing
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and ministration. in fact there are more pharmaceutical industry lobbyists in washington d.c. and members of congress. would be soo much brighter if you knew all about the songs from science to the pressure of these. stunts on t.v. don't come. we talk about wars battles conflicts that are happening at home and abroad on a daily basis but today let's introduce you to a battle is brewing in the cyber world now we spoke at length about a group of hackers named anonymous ones that use their hacking talents and way is
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that of impact of the world politically as of late they protested u.s. companies silencing of wiki leaks by tapping pay pal and master card web sites they've had to the company. h.b. gary when word got out that this company was trying to track down the numbers of anonymous and they also responded to the crazies of the westboro baptist church by taking out their website while being interviewed on the dated back and show. if you try. to hold on i am getting a thumbs up from my producer that there has been a message posted that appears to be from anonymous on downloads that was a baptist church and mr are you taking responsibility for this you know we just did it right no. i have pretty good guy with it and those are just a few examples but it turns out that there is a civil war if you will between the current members of anonymous and former members of the group now call themselves backtrace security according to backtrace the ex
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and honest numbers the current how actors have moved away from their initial purpose of anonymous which was lighter more fun loving with nihilistic roots but now they're happy to seem to pursue political causes so backtrace is doing their best to stop the current members by revealing their true identities. anonymous is trying to be the group of axes of their own game and i'm going to spare you all the details of that he said she said part of the battle but both sides are desperately trying to oust the real identities of the other party members and i'm sure that hacking skills are going to reach a new high knowing that it's the best of the best going head to head in this one but that is the a voice of reason here for a minute so they were everyone forgotten who the real enemy is in this situation he backtrace a anonymous what about the f.b.i. you know the government that's trying to hunt you down for all of your hacks if you there is reveal each other's identities and disclose each other's methods aren't you giving up crucial information to the government or let's watch out some of the consequences of getting caught backtrace the security information gets out yes
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they'll probably get harassed by the government what about if anonymous is identities revealed after everything they've done in recent months they could be facing more serious consequences at the hands of the author already so let those just be i don't know are a minder maybe a pleaded team and i miss let's remember the purpose keep an eye on the government instead of fighting amongst yourselves. well slowly but surely looks like some republican candidates for two thousand and twelve are beginning to emerge or to at least make it obvious that despite the fact that they claim to have not yet decided their moves are showing us the opposite sarah pail it may be obligatory trip to israel as have huckabee and haley barbour donald trump says that he could beat obama easy tim pawlenty has put out another well produced hollywood style ad michele bachmann has announced that she's forming an exploratory committee and you can't quite decide how he feels about flip flopping so he just keeps put flopping in hopes that nobody's going to notice that romney is suddenly looking very popular
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with tea partiers in a recent poll a father and son in law and rand paul are deciding between each other as to which one is going to run and then who could forget herman cain has announced that he is running and is already on a muslim hating spree despite admitting that he doesn't really know anything about islam it's really quite a comical group but could the next president be among that joining me to discuss that is david packard host of the david paquin show david thanks for joining us tonight now you know one hand like i said it's a comical group and i enjoy watching their exploits and i find it entertaining but at the same time when i think of the fact that one of them might actually be the president i get a little scared have you. you know there's this two sided thing on the one of you know you want the person who has if you want. you want the person with the least chance of beating obama to be the one that makes it so that it is the republican primary on the other hand you have to worry if there's any kind of fluke
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any kind of weird thing in the few days before the election and you've got the worst republican. all of a sudden that's the person that might win so i'm finding myself conflicted on actually do i want a more reasonable republican someone who i want sarah kalends to be the republican nominee well who would you say that's the point i'm trying to make is i'm. having a hard time figuring out who would even be considered the reasonable a reasonable excuse me republican i feel like they're all crazy so who do you is reasonable aside who else would be crazy other than sarah palin well i think the one the two with the best chance to be obama right now and you know i'll be wrong because it's just it's too early to really know her mitt romney and newt gingrich they both obviously have huge problems to me the scariest thing about mitt romney is that while he was governor of my home state of massachusetts he presided over what is now called romney care massachusetts has the highest percentage of insured
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residents in the country and the fewest number of uninsured children in the country however experts like experts like karl rove are saying romney would have to distance himself from that plan to have a chance with republicans that should tell you how backwards the situation is ok yeah something that you should be proud of by all means then turn it into something that you have to completely deny but you know what else i find frustrating personally as a woman i guess you could say is that sarah palin and michele bachmann are really the only ones involved here they're the only female representation i'm just wondering where is the republican hillary clinton you know do they have some kind of aversion to smart women. you had this is a fascinating topic i had anti sexist expert jackson cats who writes for huffington post on my show recently he said the reason women like michele bachmann and sarah palin are actually a popular among white men who tend to vote for republicans is that they
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themselves subscribe to some of the same sexist misjudging us added suits that may be typical of the right standard republican voter that's why you're not seeing a hillary clinton on the republican side it's very deeply rooted in that voting bloc of white men which is so important for republicans i don't know if you ask me as sarah and not todd are definitely a she is definitely wanted in charge and that family let's switch over to donald trump of course he loves public safety he loves the spotlight loves the media he has now said that he has more foreign policy credentials than anyone else because of his international business deals that he's made and he also said that he could beat obama easy so is he just being allowed here or do you think he's actually serious about iran he's being loud he may run and he won't you know donald trump was right that ron paul will not win the republican primary but he also will not
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run himself and the most amazing thing about donald trump is that by all measures of the term donald trump has revealed himself to be a burglar now he has actually said if you take a look at it there's a reasonable suspicion about is barack obama a citizen or not and what's the deal with his birth certificate donald trump has thrown his hat into the birth of by now i talked about on our program today i find it ridiculous now ron and rand paul obviously a big following between these two rival hasn't said he's sure yet that he's going to run rand is saying that he just might if his dad doesn't run which i do think it's going to be. i think it will be ron paul i don't think it will be rand i think about ron paul is if i really ask myself honestly if ron paul makes it to a general election does he have a shot at winning it's a very clear yes for me it really is he just has no chance among the republican
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primary voters especially given corporate and find you know the money where the money is coming from and his position on money and politics the guy can't make it to the final ticket against barack obama all right and lastly what do you make of these obligatory trips to israel to beef up foreign policy chops and i are stand obviously israel's very close ally but foreign policy chops there iraq or afghanistan and i feel yeah but you know i tend to have a very different view on all things israel and jewish than most other progressives and they do it and you know all i would really say is that. like you said israel is a close ally i think even going there is very disingenuous i mean really what is sarah pailin going to gain or learn change about her world view by hanging out by the willing while for a few hours ago i find it completely disingenuous i'm with you there david thanks
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so much for joining us and of course we'll have to rehash this when we do get a clearer picture of who is going around thanks. now before we go tonight it's time for our tweet of the day representative ileana ross left in the chair of the house foreign affairs committee because decided to follow him to distinguish footsteps of newt gingrich and change her position on war in libya as well so we were wondering what would the alona show tweets about are you running for president being a flip flopper seems to be a requirement these days that's a pretty nice job thanks for tuning in to be free from back tomorrow we'll have another installment of happy hour i would argue producers would see happen often jenny churchill in the meantime bill for kate's become a fan of below show on facebook and all of us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's show or any other nights you can always catch all the you tube dot com slash below and show where we post interviews as well as the show in its entirety coming up next is the news with the latest headlines in the u.s. and around the world.
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