how can they alone a show where up at the real headlines with none of the mercy we're going to live out of washington d.c. now we've been carrying out attacks on libya for a week so we'll have details from what's happening on the ground and i will continue to try and find out what the goals are from the u.s. or nato or whoever is in charge now we'll tell you about a regular we tell you on a regular basis about the military's missions in iraq and afghanistan but today let's look into another important element of war psyops archies lauren lyster will

join me to discuss how the military works to sell a positive image when it comes to our war on terror and tax season is upon us it turns out that there's somebody who isn't paying their taxes this year big corporations companies posting billions of dollars in profits but yet they pay no income tax we're going to find out which corporations are getting that free pass and what if anything we can do about it and today is the one hundredth anniversary of the triangle shirtwaist factory fire it was called by some the day that the new deal began so what can we say one hundred years later about the plight of labor in america and it's friday which means it will toast to the hottest stories making a buzz in our happy hour segment there's a new study about religious people that i think might shock you but we're going to save all the details for the end of the show now our top story. it's day seven for attacks on libya and the question about this war all they keep piling up airstrikes continue with mixed reports coming out of the country as to how many civilians might be victims of these attacks and all this to the confusion over identifying

who the victims that they found really are the fighters are the innocent bystanders who for the media believe or who should the people believe reports or nato or from libyan officials artie's call slayer has more on the ground in libya. is the proof of civilians being injured and killed in coalition is strikes we've driven more than forty minutes to see the remains of a rocket and some blast in a big room window where the father says he was very lucky that his family was not at home forgive us for being a little bit suspicious but certainly here the pressure is on for the government to try and show the international community that indeed its claims that more than one hundred civilians have been killed are true and we attended a mass funeral the more than fifty times we'd listen and we were told that inside the ship millions the government spokesperson later did acknowledge that it was possible that some of the bodies were places the chest beating at this single position and say that all libyans slices to fix the question in terms of what is

the difference here between anderson really is the damage and listening to this a hospital with a bit more than a dozen bodies charred beyond recognition and presented also as proof that these airstrikes are killing civilians there are those here in the capital city that bodies have been pushing for i think areas that it was to fight you think this into the foreign media as a p.c. game that civilians have targets and are the collateral damage in these airstrikes the reaction on the ground in terms of the announcement that nato now will be in charge of enforcing this no fly zone is rather mixed the average rebel fighter actually doesn't care he just wants to see more weapons he wants to see more air strikes but the opposition leadership is of the concerned they do understand that when you have more power. always calling the shots you run the risk of one of them being able to veto any for each operation a lot easier for the united states and canada to take this operation forward than european powers which have the mystic issues they need to consider such as

migration here in the capital city this situation is very very tense friday prayer is always a focal point security downtown has been stepped up in fear that there could be massive demonstrations overnight there were strikes in the eastern a waste of the city targeting military barracks and military air fields at the same time there was a lot of aircraft and gunfire over the capital city so indeed the situation tense people angry and most just fearing for the next few days and weeks cantering policy r.t. tripoli. and nato is now set to take command of the war against moammar gadhafi but it's still hard to tell exactly what that means on thursday night at nato said it would take over command and control of the no fly zone from the u.s. but the obama administration insisted the command of a no drive zone was also part of that deal so even now the picture of command dreams murky and the end goal is still nonexistent joining me to discuss it all is dr rice criminal defense attorney and former cia officer jack thanks so much for

joining us tonight like i said it's still hard to tell exactly what's been agreed upon here in nato said that they'll take a man of the no fly zone but that's the part that's all it's already been done the no fly zone has been established i guess you could say that's the easy part what does a no drive zone really mean you know it was are both great questions i mean that's really the problem because if we look at what president obama has done in the past the bottom line here the whole purpose was to get us off of his back he wanted to put these on somebody else's back somebody else's children so they will have to deal with this is let me give you the worst of all worlds the worst of all worlds is that this turns into a group campaign and all of us are more market garvie does not walk away quietly peacefully you simply sit out there and try to get. again and this does not go away what an f. eighteen are to fifteen goes down when you see more casualties coming up in all of us and president obama says of the let me get this right we have iraq we have

afghanistan and now we have libya you have people on the left and right into him and so can answer your question no body no but do you know well what is a no drive zone specifically mean versus the no fly zone right so they have now established the fact that it's safe airplanes and fly over to the no dot drive down does that mean shooting tanks. compounds yes i mean in the u.n. which you're trying to do is you're trying to clamp down and control everything that moves and frankly it's going to be very very hard to do in many cases because bottom line this is what the white house said and they tried to say it is in the last twenty four forty eight hours it's not just about a no fly zone it's about protecting civilians and it's trying to stop this sort of kinetic energy and you can often regime trying to slow them down trying to stop their armament from moving trying to stop their people from moving but if you do that that means you have to increase the amount of armament that nato or the

americans have and by the way i would use slash right there nato or americans because at the end of the day no matter what it is that the white house says the americans are you know bottom line they're the ones alternately we're going to trigger saying this is what we're going to do and nato will essentially follow through with what you have americans what they just put it under a different heading so all of a sudden it's not the americans were driving news the entire war in somebody else and that's not really true. i mean i'm really happy that you mentioned that because of course like we said obama's message this entire time has been to step back to say this is an international effort that the u.s. is going to rescind its role and that nato is now in command but if the u.s. is nato right the u.s. plays a very leading role the u.s. has the mightiest military capability then you know what does it make any difference at all if we say nato is in command now not really i mean it really

doesn't i guess the only comparison we have at least the latest comparison we could have is afghanistan and if we think about what's going on yes and again we can't stand being embedded myself and i saw this very closely and it will she thought it is well yes there are new nato troops on the ground if you want to go to the highest policy levels it still frequently be dictated the money and the power the controls. it's still rolls out of washington still rolls out of the pentagon yes remember president bush and you have all of these various organizations coming together and you have all sorts of everywhere in central america to. races around the world and stuck it out there at the end of the game it's still the americans were driving and that's true whether or not president obama is prepared to admit it. and that's a thing that i think president obama isn't prepared to admit a lot here if you ask me i feel like he's been very dishonest about this entire situation because his administration is refusing first of all to just call it

a war if he didn't ask congress for any kind of approval he didn't sit down and address the people now and now within his administration they say that he's trying to avoid having to people because he doesn't want to equate what we're doing in libya with iraq or with afghanistan because this isn't so much of a smaller scale but is it a little you know too late now they're saying that he might actually address the people once the u.s. steps that from the situation in libya i don't understand why didn't he do this right away and this is a failure on his part i mean what i thought it interesting and maybe a bit fascinating political you see if you take a look what's going on in washington around the country is you look back at the left who really tried to support this president sometimes blindly you think about the arguments that they are going after president bush rolling into iraq and you think about the right sometimes following the right blindly to conservatives widely saying he must be right and how do you look at that that support it's been flip

flop and all of a sudden yes one's acceptable when you see a democrats tearing themselves apart really wrapping themselves up in trying to explain why this one is ok when to the end of the day the arguments sound shockingly to same with the girl left or right and bats the sort of hot receipt that we're seeing right now and i think we should be talking about. i'm with you that i think we should be talking about it and at the end of the day it's a no win situation politically because even the republican lawmakers that were out there who are the most vocal about the need to take it off out and implement this no fly zone are now turning against obama and saying that he was wrong in doing it but let's move on a little bit from libya clearly there is a lack of a goal a lack of a clear message on what's going on in libya we also see a lot of violence in the middle east in bahrain in syria and jordan in yemen where you know they're saying that president saleh might step down in a number of days and yet the pentagon says that they don't really have any kind of

a contingency plan as to what's going to happen to all of these counter terrorism units which are u.s. funded in yemen how could we not have plans something set up for you know in case these situations occur. well it's pretty shocking actually we think about what's going on in libya as we started our conversation goes and really when we think about what's going on in syria and yemen and elsewhere believe it or not these are all tied together and they're all tied together in this sense the idea is that the west and the europeans the americans are more than willing to step up to provide support for some of the organizations some of those who are pro democracy for a western and we got to be careful about that because what you end up doing is you want to label them as sort of anti islam sometimes because it can happen you can be labeled as as anti a middle eastern and pro western when in fact it may not actually be that it's always been the fear we saw what was going on in iran but the idea that we're not

actually have any they don't have anything in place that makes it clear jump it says this is what we're going to do next i think really shows up i don't i don't i would call it paralysis at the white house right now but i think there are there's so petrified of what's happening in libya trying to get this off their backs if they're afraid to say ok if something happens in yemen here's what we're going to do next out of fear that somebody anybody everybody maybe will actually jump on them for that and of course their every move is being watched air and criticized but you know and rightly so i think because that's what happens when you're in that kind of position but now lastly when it comes to libya what do you think of the option of arming the rebels instead of a military intervention. you know that is one of the big questions that people have i think the fear that people have if you are of the rebels exactly who are the russians and the exactly what are they that is part of the problem in the first place what will we give them and how long will those weapons actually last in the

hands of the people that we hand them to and who gets to decide who actually gets those weapons i mean this is part of the problem that we've had in the past when we decide to arm our friends and we've seen in places like saudi arabia we've seen it in parts of north africa we've seen is throughout the middle east and what you end up getting is just on point growing instability and it gets worse and worse and worse and the more when that option they end up becoming our enemies as la jack i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight and i'm going to have a lot more to say about this war in libya later on in the south now it's time for a short break and when we return it's almost as important for the u.s. war as its actual fight it's winning hearts and minds it's not just the people in the country where you're fighting every day but military life every day for the psyops to win the hearts and minds of the entire world then one man fights back against his placement on the no fly list after having an e-mail intercepted and instead of an apology ali thought was blackmail thirty of homeland security.

you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so poorly is if you understand it and then you glimpse something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm trying hard because the big picture. there is no you're there we had an apartheid regime right here in the us. i think. either one well. we have to go as the earth keep you safe get ready because of the freedom.

hi guys welcome michel ancel on the i want to show we've heard our guests talk to say on the topics now i want to hear the audience is going to use field of video response for the twitter first part of the questions that we post on you tube every monday and on thursday when the show long response is. normal it's a. fair. fight.

in the global war on terror we discussed military operations with troops on the ground coalition forces but let's look at another aspect of war trauma takes a much different approach of winning hearts and minds so i call logical operations are just as important in a war zone as the artillery that's used at this point that is used to tackle the media and the public artie's lauren lyster takes a closer look the reality of war and war still and that's why you only go to war when it's an absolute interest to your national security it's one reason why coalition forces do battle with an information war to fight alongside the real one playing out on the ground in afghanistan for example so what's not widely known by these milestones the longest war american history we have surpassed the soviet campaign there we have spent a lot of money but instead carries this message of morning. welcome to the new

game of hope and reconstruction in the war torn region which accommodates home shaped peaks and that's the nato version told in this promotional film it was given to international journalists like myself at the annual nato summit presumably to spread the message public relations efforts like these are nothing new and commander of the nato forces the united states spends billions of dollars alone to market its version of the war to the world including p.r. at home and abroad u.s. funded media as well as psychological operations for example a leaked classified cia document revealed a plan for ally it's a quote strategic communication program across nato troop contributors that taps into the key concerns of specific western european audiences that could provide a buffer if apathy becomes opposition to fight declining public support for the war

from france and germ. as a young girl she recalls the day when the taliban willed into telecon pocket change outside her home and cook and watch on her family and her neighbors the cia tapped afghan women as the perfect messenger to make an emotional appeal about the taliban and professed their aspirations for the future as this woman does here. some media picked up on this message to hear time magazine equates pulling out u.s. troops from afghanistan with brutality against women however we think about this poor girl this happened while he was troops were there and some like them and it's writer jill argues these p.r. tactics are an assault on women too i think it absolutely exploits the women's issue of exploits women's use purely to advance u.s. foreign policy objectives they certainly weren't interested in women's rights in that region before it became strategically important to them in this so-called war

on terror. and it's not clear efforts like this even work it's absolutely impossible to tell but i would be willing to suggest that. it's very ineffective and maybe u.s. defense secretary robert gates would agree as his recent closed door nato speech can attest he's now resorting to scolding allies for getting ready to abandon the war meanwhile hillary clinton says the u.s. is losing when it comes to broadcasting its message abroad on state funded t.v. stations three unfortunately we are paying a big price for it even though the u.s. is spent one billion dollars alone to broadcast its message to the arab world where it's at war through the state news network. the network has locked in just half a percent of viewership and asked them or they know with all showing perhaps you can't sell old war welcome to the new days unless you have

a buyer lauren the stirrer r.t. your. well joining me to discuss it from our studio in new york is our correspondent foreign minister now lauren i think that of course we can talk about the way that these wars are sold even with the conflict that we're seeing right now the obama administration doesn't want to call libya a war it's a humanitarian intervention but if you look at the polls is their messaging actually working well i think that's an interesting point because it looks like you can see the messaging reflected in the polls a reuters poll showed that sixty percent of americans that they polled were in support of u.s. military intervention to protect civilians which is really the message that the obama administration had sold now when you look at the reality of what actually is going on as far as the military actions that the u.s. is taking and you hold based on that question the numbers seem to be a little bit different gallup poll came out showing that when you say do you approve of the u.s. military action in libya that's going on the numbers drop forty seven percent

approve and thirty seven percent disapprove so you really see the difference in messaging and what that conveys to the american people and how they feel about a military operation and that same poll when you asked about sending boots on the ground just seven percent would be in support of that and analysts say oh it's because the u.s. is embroiled in other wars and the u.s. has really felt the toll that this is taken and the costs of that but as you mentioned the obama administration is not calling what's going on in libya a war but does that make it less of a war the u.s. is involved in airstrikes there or bombing military facilities in libya i mean what is a war then i certainly would call it a war and i'm really curious as to this nato promotional see you were privileged to see after going to the latest summit in portugal tell me more about what's on it. all sorts of stuff alone stories that really kind of play to the u.s. policy there in support of it you know let me give you one example they show afghan

soldiers training with their new american m sixteen and they have quotes from them where they're saying you know we we want to fight the taliban but we can't just do it with force we have to talk to them we have to talk to people here kind of reinforcing their counterinsurgency winning hearts and minds strategy and then you you also have those soldiers saying you know we believe we can beat the taliban were loyal we want this mission but what it really is going to take is a strong afghan army strong afghan police so kind of all reinforcing what the u.s. wants to build there and in addition you see afghan students saying we want this better life for ourselves we are studying in university we want to build a great country here we want to build industry here but we don't have the infrastructure we don't have the things that we need and of course that's one of the other aspects of the u.s. mission there is building infrastructure and kind of having a civilian surge there that works on those aspects and you really see told through this afghan story a reinforcement of the u.s.

and nato mission there and you even have you know a poem with the beginning that says democracy is the answer that's from an afghan women's group so lots of messaging throughout that video and those kind of videos are shown and i'm sure not surprisingly i don't think anybody would be surprised but on big screen t.v.'s in the media center throughout the whole summit nato you know definitely doesn't surprise me that they try to sell the war but then you would like a little bit of honesty too right if they do sell to a specific audience to say that this is helping women and children how can you exclude the fact that women and children are often the ones that suffer the most of these types of conflicts. it's a really great point and it's one that the feminist blogger that i interviewed also brought up which is that if the u.s. is using the women's issue as a justification for its presence there what about the fact that war is horrible for women and for children and that matter i mean the u.n. report that came out this month showing that two thousand and ten was the worst year for civilian casualties so far in afghanistan of the twenty seven hundred

seventy seven casualties that that report detailed more than half of those are women and children it's more than eleven hundred that are women and five hundred some that are children so war is by no means good for women if you look at the numbers that are dying and the lives that are being affected and not know to of women one interesting kind of anecdote when you look at the fact that the u.s. has pushed the women's issue is just recently just this month a very prominent afghan feminist and also a critic of the war and she was elected to the afghan parliament she was actually denied a visa to get into the united states to promote her book a woman among warlords it wasn't until the a.c.l.u. launched a campaign and members of congress got involved and there was all sorts of protests but then the state department did grant her a visa but originally when she was really when she applied for one it was reported that the consular office said we know exactly who you are and you're not getting a visa to leave those are the size of the stories that you don't hear without with a frown the p.r.

world laura thanks so much for joining us. how many people are raising questions about a marine who's been placed on the no fly list corps veteran eva scholl found out the hard way that he was on the list when he was attempting to board a plane and it turns out that the f.b.i. flagged him after they found that he had e-mailed him all asking for advice on how to raise his children and a multicultural household you see mashal as muslim his wife is a christian but since the f.b.i. was keeping watch on that he mom they were skeptical of the veterans e-mails now michel so that he was then approached by the f.b.i. where they attempted to cut him a deal they saying that if he could be an undercover informant for mosques in the u.s. he could get off the no fly list and i daresay that kind of sounds like blackmail doesn't it's obviously the muslim american declined and has since fall the lawsuit with the a.c.l.u. in this issue but when michele contacted the department of homeland security they sent to her saying that they reviewed the situation and determined that no changes should be made at this time no changes should be made at this time because i mean

the homeland security is admitting the businessman one who's a veteran of the military should be kept on the no fly list all for sending an e-mail i think i'm crazy at what point were his questions regarding raising his children an indicator for the government to think that we shall could be linked to militants you know i think it's safe to say that homeland security definitely overstepped their balance on this one and to make matters worse the f.b.i. then tried to blackmail him into investigating mosques because that's the way to gain trust in the american muslim community do we need any more proof that homeland security and the rest of the government overstepped their bounds of what's actually keeping us safe into paranoia and islamophobia this is ridiculous i for one hope it is u.s. marine better and gets off the list the legal way by winning in court and instead of having to play the f.b.i.'s dirty games. and the war on terror it's been the u.s. top priority since the nine eleven attacks our government has gone to extreme lengths to show that any terrorist will not succeed in the good ole usa. but first let's

point out the obvious here are wars in iraq and afghanistan right those are clear since you know that there are center pieces of the so-called war on terror but here at home efforts have been made to ensure that each american is trained to fight terror the t.s.a. has all kinds of checkpoints most of which are there to invade your privacy all for the sake of keeping you safe in the skies and homeland security secretary sic secretary janet napolitano says if you see something say something that's her campaign that encourages the average joe schmoe to use his best knowledge to determine if something suspicious as happening in public places like train stations we even see it on capitol hill where peter king posted the bigoted radicalization within the american muslim community here it's working essentially used his political platform to spread his own fears of islamophobia but let's get back to this war on terror we're also using federal dollars to train local police on how to speak with the muslim community how to communicate with locally moms have spots any

potential terrorists although i think that we all know that their training is all about thorough as you saw in our recent report which we did on this program now all this effort all of this money spent but it didn't seem to help in this one case out of detroit a security guard stumbled upon a suspicious package outside a federal building rather than investigate what the package might have been he brought the baggage inside put it in a lost and found and the package sat there for three weeks you heard me right after three weeks of course i believe somebody decided to scan it and it turns out it was a bomb now i'm not even to comment on the intelligence level of the security guard but let's pull it all into the bigger picture do we need any more proof that our domestic war on terror needs to be refined if an undead they'd have gone sits in a federal buildings lost and found her three weeks i think about the answer is clear enough let's stop and they even people's privacy i restricting their civil liberties and just start getting smart. all right that's time of the night coming up next we'll talk to are going to this evening has

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