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the thing is that the have the germans are still unaware of what's going on in their mind still asking why did. i go to the last the great. an arch. takes me without to this friday night my name's kevin now in our top stories is a growing number of senior libyan officials are reportedly fleeing the country the regime's resumed attacks on a rebel held city and seven more civilians are said to been killed in coalition air strikes. a prison for investing in georgia and israeli prisons would get seven years in jail for bribery lawyers claimed he was entrapped by the country's authorities which only invest one hundred million dollars. japan's authorities are
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under fire for the way that they're dealing with the fukushima nuclear plant disaster and around willingness to expand the exclusion zone the criticism comes amid an admission from officials that the evacuation of tens of thousands of people around the quake and passivity will be long term. mortality dot com next our special report for you looks at the merits of the death penalty and whether the crime of murder should always mean an eye for an eye. wanders sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite a lot when volunteer was out on the road and well and laura knew her well. we're all for justice if it could be anyone. you know we'd be in iraq there with. bales you know ringing it because it's. payback it's it's it's you know
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in that society. do i feel responsible for helping in his execution yeah. do i feel bad about it. now do i feel bad for the grieving that. jim and. gabby went through yeah i feel sorry for their loss i do i feel horrible they lost in war than i did day last vonda and sean i just lost my father they lose more you bet grandfather jim dead he refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred nine about six minutes to die.
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jones execution left scars on his lawyer steve preston. steve still lives in the little town of norman near oklahoma city. specializing in final appeals of a condemned he has lost eleven of them and he has defended and succeeded in saving only two of them. here so many people who support the death penalty say well as part of our system we have it well the only reason that we have it it's parts of the system is because they don't act to change it and they they support the system and it's wrong and they don't know why it's so they don't know first hand. or even second you know what.
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a horrible process it is. i don't know when told one of their own family members has to go through it and then suddenly. they see everything wrong with. that case and others that i've done but shawn's because i was pretty close to zero. destroyed my faith in the american legal system before doing death row cases i had the highest confidence in our courts and our law enforcement because i was a cop for ten years. and i practiced civil law and i worked in the courts found i thought that things were good and far and it was seeing the machinery of the state moving so venomously. them an ally against these people on death row to extinguish their lives and ignoring good evidence and ignoring constitutional violations.
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but just took it out of me. is made me it's made better i'm burned out. i really dislike the system i dislike being a lawyer. that's what it's done. steve no longer attends the executions. many people in oklahoma claim that the executions are humane and painless. and. i'm heading to mcallister in the eastern part of the state where the penitentiary is located to find the man who executed sean sellers. in oklahoma the prison guards
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what first. became in your show. thank you note xan. a lot of while i remember that exchange. when twenty flash bangs occasion. i was involved in all morning. house and all that proximately. extractions proximately sixty makes a huge. fred cook who was in charge of sean's execution his father also executed prisoners and the electric chair fred is retired now
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but about johnny and then and he would just say ok big big oh he had. i mean you know he's guilty he he done it paid one note two ways of bad it and. so nice interesting today if and we get him on death row no such damage it was time to execute him and then we executed. once a company that they were they know that. they don't have to get on that they will mail two ways about it and so that is probably. what was going through sean's mind during his final moments. when an execution takes place police substances are injected from this room through these holes in
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the wall street recruits three citizens to carry out this task the law guarantees that they remain anonymous. during the entire execution only the guards are and direct contact with the condemned prisoners. tim guarded the inmates during their final hours. lane was one of the guards that would strap them to the gurney. dark as well. jane would bring the little chemicals and see that the execution ran
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smoothly. fred the oldest planned the procedure. eight nine minutes before the execution is heard you were moving from from they say oh take humans out excuse in time for with a payment of six. restraint also when they first come out of the so they have this look on oh you're thirty five if you've known him for twenty years and known for a long time we have this local. disbelief that you're going to be one of them that's going to walk a mile in their you know hank and you know legard and a new day golden era like a mayor they wish it was somebody else you wish it was somebody else. well you said you walk a matter of the gurney and they look at you because they don't know they've never done this before there's a sense of stress maybe nervousness but as
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far as you know i seen one individual that once they entered the door to the chamber the nerves got to him so bad that they became weak in the knees and you know they just kind of and the strap down team just reached up and grabbed him by the arm and you know just held him up and assisted him on to the gurney and they look at you like for some direction you don't know a certain way on the gurney and i look at him like you can you know i've come sort of it and then we heard people had. you know and they get up there in the what you want to do now you know what your way out here. i know that's where you do and i. can tell the interim is going to keep doing. what you're going to stretch and they look at you you know have a look at you know like there was a buyers they saw me i just don't look at them i've just i would look at them and i
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would look at something i don't want. some i'm crying some i'm go point toward and say let the execution begin before he says that he waits a little bit and that way if ward the governor in case to go after a call and that will that's the only way that you should be stopped if the governor cart at that point and it that they will start administering the grow a system you have that moment of town if they you know i talk to that individual forty five minutes ago many individuals dead. and. it's a humbling experience i mean. time is just disbelief you know . because some of them i know for a ten and twelve fourteen year. you'll never forget about it you think about it until the day you've. had fiction and how can that not affect you that you're
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taking some guy even though he's done something to somebody you do know this if you're taking some guy and stripping down and basically you're putting him to death because you're part of the whole process of doing it but yeah it bothers me to lose day i had nightmares i wake up waiting i wake up with horrible nightmares that he won't do no good to tell you because you wouldn't understand it unless you've been there. twelve years after the execution of sawn sellers i met only one participant of the story who didn't seem to have the slightest doubts.
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this is oklahoma county's district attorney the man who demanded the death sentence for shop. of maze he held office for close to twenty five years he is known in the us for being the d.a. who has obtained the most death sentences around sixty. macy always claimed that the death sentence has a dissuasive effect and he reiterated that opinion during sean's trial. this may not be the best way to stop the killing but it's the only way i know and i think the jurors are saying look you go and you kill three people in this can't really give you the death penalty that hopefully somebody else one. of. the
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district attorney's arguments always had the backing of the public. mazie the un yelled and da is now retired and lives on his farm a few miles from oklahoma city. and i have seen the executor and stuff oh ha ha. on the horse was so close not my job was of the prosecutor from bring the charges present there who lives in our usual death and. i don't claim satisfaction or joy in a. business or law hopefully. among
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a lot of the law enforcement people would agree that he lives i believe her and oh goodness i have a lizard's just. you say you hope that it is a deterrent against it is not proven well of. there's no way i know of a figure when you stop someone ignorant is not. a much fear district attorney who has never witnessed a single execution now admits that there has never been any perth's that the death penalty has a dissuasive effect on criminality. the facts are there in the twelve years since sean's execution oklahoma's crime rate has not decreased.
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running no worry or who crime was on who was not present especially directly to young women and children and. i can explain to me of wives having. america problems are very horrible crimes i don't know how to exploit it. or if i would see had several cases one of this county or your friend or husband swims and smashed a baby against a wall and i don't want to live. the person who could do that until a baby. a crime was that we're dealing with but i don't rule it has to work rather i think you committed these horrible
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you can eat. the. meat. meat. fish eat eat eat was the ticket. for many citizens of oklahoma the bible offers an irrefutable justification for the death penalty particularly the verses which are subject to widely differing interpretations about an eye for a night a test for a target we have pastor don't jump in accompanied sean and many other prisoners both men and women in their final moments now he no longer carries out this mission .
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there's that scripture justify what we're doing today. are we doing it today because we are punishing people in my life it's been. it's been eight years. and now i can finally talk about fully talk about what i can't. to our regret no i helped the person. not that i was in favor of putting a person to death and nothing was going to stop that i was there to help that person and so i was i would minister to the person i would talk to them i cannot do this any longer i can't put words in god's mouth but i don't think he would want the death penalty i think it would want
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i'm almost. six years after sean's execution the supreme court at long last ruled against capital punishment for minors. today three thousand three hundred prisoners are waiting on death row throughout the united states. and oklahoma the mortal remains not claimed by family are buried in the little cemetery in front of the penitentiary.
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