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pump. more news today violence is once again flared up the film these are the images the world and seeing from the streets of canada the first challenge for asians are on the day. look. sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite a lot when volunteer with out on the road well i'm laura knew her well.

were offered if it had been anyone. you know we'd be in iraq there with. bales you know ringing at all because it's. payback it's it's it's you know whatever but when it's someone that that you care about and you know you did the same you know for the one thing he'll. it's mixed emotions it's it's unexplainable. it's sad. it's. so. uncalled for. so waste. he was the last. part of me. and my sister in. his car.

he was the last sister's child and she's gone now he's gone now they're all. in that society. do i feel responsible for helping in execution yes do i feel bad about it you know now do i feel bad for the grieving the jim and. debbie went through yet how i feel sorry for their loss or do i feel they lost and more than i did. they lost vonder and sean i just lost my father they lose more you bet grandfather jim shawn's

and debbie refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred nine sean took about six minutes to die. i don't know what i saw. i saw him and. person. i didn't want to go. but i was so angry i still wanted to go. and i sometimes for us most of the thinking about it it's

done it's done deal done and over ten years i've not had to worry it's what it's just as nap and what if he gets out he gets up and i worry about things i did just i had no worries jane yours got closure. anyone's present a chance execution not right there were also those who tried to save him.

jones execution left scars on his lawyer steve present. steve still lives in the little town of norman near oklahoma city. specializing in final appeals of the condemned he has lost eleven of the men he has defended and succeeded in saving only two of them. to. come here so many people who support the death penalty say well as part of our system we have a well the only reason that we haven't asked parts of the system is because they won't act to change it and they they support the system and it's wrong and they

don't know why it's so they don't know first hand. or even second you know what. a horrible. process it is. i don't know until one of their own family members has to go through it and then suddenly. they see everything wrong with. that case and others that shawn's because i was pretty close to home. destroyed my faith in the american legal system before doing go through cases i had the highest confidence in our courts and our law enforcement because i was a cop for ten years. and i practiced civil law and i worked in the courts i don't i thought that things were good and far and it was saying the machinery of the state moving so venomously. very minutely against

these people on death row to extinguish their lives and ignoring good evidence and ignoring constitutional violations. and that just took it out of me. is maybe it's maybe better i'm burnt out. i really dislike the system i dislike being a lawyer. that's what it's down. steve no longer attends the executions. many people in oklahoma claim that the executions are humane and painless.

i'm heading to mcallister in the eastern part of the state where the penitentiary is located to find the man who executed shon sellers. in oklahoma the prison guards carry out their death sentences. the simplest way is to run an ad in the local newspaper looking for officers who participated in the execution. problem or. you know

a member shot seller because he was a party guy that actually he was not an adult at which. or how many first he came into being thank you note xan. bottom while i remember that exchange. when i want to flash bang. was involved in our morning. i was involved in a proximately. extractions approximately sixty executions.

fred cook was in charge of songs execution his father also executed prisoners in the electric chair fred is retired now but about johnny and then and he was just a key of big bagel he had but i mean you know me he'd known it day one no two ways about it and. so nice interesting today if and we get a moan. that's damaged it was found executed him and then we executed. once a company that they were they know. they don't get on that day well they know two ways about it and so loaded crawl up on pavement.

what was going through sean's mind during his final moments. when an execution takes place police says are injected from this room through these holes in the wall street recruits three citizens to carry out this task the law guarantees that they remain anonymous. during the entire execution only the guards are in direct contact with the condemned prisoners. tim guarded the inmates during their final hours. lane was one of the guards that would strap them to the gurney. dark

as well. jane would bring the lethal chemicals and see that the execution ran smoothly. fred the oldest planned the procedure. eight nine minutes before the execution instead you were moving from the from the sale take humans out of the execution chamber with a payment of six bobs of restraint option on a first come out of the so they have this look on all your thirty four if you've known for twenty years and known for a long time they have as little. disbelief that you're going to be one of them but it's going to walk in there you know hank and you know legard and yanni a golden era like a mayor they wished it was somebody else you wish it was somebody who knows.

players if you walk a motor the gurney and they look at you because they don't know they've never done this before there's a sense of stress maybe nervousness. as far as you know i've seen one individual that was they entered the door to the chamber the nerves got to them so bad that they became weak in the knees and you know they just kind of and the strapped down team just finished up and grabbed him by the arm and you know just held him up and assisted a moment of the gurney and they look at you like for some direction you go you know certain way on the gurney and they look at you like you can you know i've come sort of intimate that we are people who had. you know and they get up there in the wood you want to do now you know when we can. perform. you know asked why are you doing a. film. i'm not going to do it and what you know i'm strapped down and they

look at you you know have a look at you know like they want to say bye or say something i just don't look at just how i would look at them and i would look at so much i don't want anything from him cry it's a moment that point toward and say let the execution again before he says that he waits a little bit and that way for the governor in case together co and that will that's the only way that they actually should be start if the governor calls at that point and at that time they will start administering the grow a system you have that moment of time i think you know i talk about individual forty five minutes ago when individuals dead now and. it's a humbling experience i mean. at times just disbelief you know . because some of them i know for twelve fourteen years.

you'll never forget about it you think about it until the day you. aired fiction how can it not affect you that you're taking some guy you know he's done something to somebody did of us that you're taking some guy's trip him down and basically you're putting him to death because you're part of the whole process of doing it but yeah it bothers me to lose day i had nightmares i wake up waiting i wake up with herbal nightmares that he won't do no good to tell you because you wouldn't understand it unless you've been there. twelve years after the execution of son sellers i met only one participant of the story who didn't seem to have the slightest doubts.

this is oklahoma county's district attorney the man who demanded the death sentence for shot. of mace he held office for close to twenty five years he is known in the us for being the da who has obtained the most death sentences around sixty. macy always claimed that the death sentence has a dissuasive affects and he reiterated better opinion joining sean's trial. this may not be the best way to stop the killing but it's the only way i know what

i think the jurors are saying look you go and you kill three people in this can't really give you the death penalty that hopefully somebody else will. do. the district attorney's arguments always have a backing of the public. may see the onion olding da is now retired and lives on his farm a few miles from oklahoma city. i hear the cynics think you should yourself oh what huh oh lordy my sons know so much you know one of the prosecutor from bring the charges recently asked who lives in our usual death panel i don't

think the satisfaction of joy. is a nurse or law. a model none of the law enforcement people would agree that he lives only turns oh goodness i have lived their lives just. as you say you hope that it is a deterrent against it is not proven oil if we. know what i know of for you when you stop some of the news not. the much feared district attorney who has never witnessed a single execution now admits that there has never been any perth's that the death penalty has a dissuasive effect on criminality. the

facts are there in the twelve years since sean's execution oklahoma's crime rate has not decreased. or i know we're all here or you privates on horse of person and especially young women and children and. i can explain to me of what is happening how many crimes are very horrible crimes i don't know how to exploit you. see had several cases one of this county or. your friend or husband swims a smash a baby against a wall and no one is. the person who could do that until a baby. arrives that we're dealing with i

don't rehabilitate so we're. thinking you committed he's horrible horrible crimes. almost beyond redemption how he thinks somebody thought whoa that's an alleged serrano. because. if people only true there would be collusion.

you can eat. the world was written. eat. fish eat eat eat was the ticket. for many citizens of oklahoma the bible offers an irrefutable justification for the death penalty particularly the verses which are subject to widely differing interpretations about an eye for a night a test for a target pastor don't duncan accompanied shown many other prisoners both men and women in their final moments now he no longer carries out this mission.

there's a script for justify what we're doing today. are we doing it today because we like punishing people in my life it's been it's been eight years now and now i can finally talk about fully talk about what i can't. to our regret. you know i help the person. not that i was in favor of putting that person to death nothing was going to stop that i was there to help that person am hour i thought i was i would minister to the person i would talk to them i cannot

do this any longer i can't put words in god's mouth but i don't think he would want the death penalty i think he would want us to share a laugh and how to have laugh and cry asked. do you believe in god or. do you fear his judgment. while well more so you might raise i'm so hot or i'm out even though the chance that the guy against death penalty

i don't know i just. six years after sean's execution the supreme court at long last ruled against capital punishment for minors. today three thousand three hundred prisoners are waiting on death row throughout the united states. and oklahoma the mortal remains not claimed by family are buried in the little cemetery in front of the penitentiary.

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