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great to see you can write and seton motley president of less government or great so you're going to see that as i walk into our tour a little. bit of a bombing campaign continues in libya as rebel forces are with the rain and the firepower of good avi's military yesterday congressman dennis percentage aiding speech against what was going on take a look this administration's no war doctrine will not lead to paste. but tomorrow will arc and it will stretch even thinner our military meanwhile tea party darling marco rubio donned his war hawk clothes and sent a letter to senate majority leader harry reid saying this resolution states that removing moammar gadhafi from power is in our national interest and therefore authorizes the president to accomplish this goal at the end of the day the fact remains that our nation is not like other countries the united states is an exceptional country with exceptional powers but that power comes with unique moral

obligations and responsibilities so our question of the tea party and the president finally found common ground in this war maybe a little bit but i will say i was someone who supported intervention in libya earlier when the rebels were actually on the gates of tripoli and not that i think the president waited too late i think legally speaking they're doing is considered brings up a lot of these points the truth is this is not been settled ever by the united states supreme court there's no precedent presidents in the past have said that they've got a power to do this democrat republican congress will sometimes pitch a little fit about being informed or whether they when they say they they invoke the war powers act but the work hours after explicitly says we have to be under threat but the discipline of course is not even close to this i was and i detest it nor have any president ever said that that likewise either so the real story here is that this was a really hard decision you know and i think a lot of ways that is is the reversal of what we achieved in egypt you know if you

want your freedom to take it yourself stand on your own two legs and rise up and in libya we had to come in and we had to do that now i think the reason obama did that as he made the decision that any moral person is going to make five hundred thousand people are going to be slaughtered by a violent dictator you know are you going to be able to sleep at night if you make a decision not to step in you know i've got you down a bit ago when the when the when you got the dictator on the ropes not when he's got the rebels on the ropes and we know are in train and now we're seeing this flicker of al-qaeda flicker of hezbollah that's what starts troubling the american people why do i. you know as much as it is holding our website there are two for three interventionist see here there's absolutely no us interest in this at all we have we have no business being there and this is the first time ever and now we've agreed with you now we've agreed now this is a this is a for you know people are going to use an itch was right i put it back in the record against him saying we didn't have an exit strategy just to dismiss it if we didn't have a way to go down i was going to translate i don't remember earlier in the week we

didn't have a we don't we didn't have an exit strategy in a record pace and we didn't have an entrance strategy in libya we had no idea what we were getting into when we went into it and so by hundred thousand people were going to end up dead the next day that was the intended authors of a very own national interests made that decision i guess still think it's just not as difficult as already made the decision to stay home you know if you absolutely have to keep the united states if you want to be the united states the world power that we are going to got to interview storylines best of my leaders and i don't say my take on this is that i am hoping for the best i'm hoping that this can work out the way that george bush said iraq was going to work out you know but i'm fearing the worst i'm very concerned i think that we've stepped into something that's very sticky and i agree with you i'd actually say one thing he said in the green room though was that you know the ultimate evil is a government official murdering his own population what is going to hand over the world we're going to move on to another topic here a new unemployment numbers came out today take a look the economy added two hundred sixteen thousand jobs last month and the unemployment rate dropped to eight point eight percent considering the republicans

have spent their time in congress focusing on legislation that didn't create a single job arguably took some away by defunding n.p.r. and planned parenthood and the strong unemployment numbers over the last few months proof that president obama's economic policies are working and republicans are wrong right i think it's great news you know americans get back to work on the best thing to bring down deficits in this country to put americans back to work make sure they're going to get paycheck every day you know there's a there's a really reckless extreme group that has taken over first. took over the republican party and now they've taken over the house and congress and they're dictating this agenda that has nothing to do with jobs it's purely destructive and they're not going to create any jobs and in fact the cuts that they're talking about would actually cut a million jobs that america has a fragile enough and it is that elderly fraud and it would reduce it would reduce our economic growth by at is that what you want to hear let me introduce you to reality we're talking about fifty billion dollars in cuts when we owe one we're short one point six five trillion this year these quick cuts are

infinitesimal it's what we need to do you have such a jobs once excuse me but he has the guts is the government shrinks private sector spans it happens every time the reason the unemployment numbers are going down and by the way they're not the underemployed it's nineteen point whatever the reason for the reason the it close to twenty percent really right now the other reason we the reason the employment are getting slightly better is the balance on the bottom is because we're getting further and further away from the trillion dollar stimulus we're getting further and further away from a democrat controlled house senate and obama administration still it's a job i want to penalize those that are here you can see they are you are looking forward to actually just look at you with the past on a battle itself which you know we're going to what do you expect republicans they can put together is many jobs close as you want that's not going to happen it's not going to get through the democrats should doesn't quit is that it's not that leaders should be in the business and. i hope you saw the last week there with a where if you double the amount of people are getting their checks from the government now instead of when you found it actually a growth industry that's a problem that we have to face you know either all those republicans or hardliners

that got elected they got elected by their constituents to cut government spending right where that's done they're going to get off the in much of the debates during the obamacare shrink spending that was the sort of notion that that was all that it was always about respect you're free to go to the national debt less government and get involved here i mean i think every american thinks right now what we need to be doing is hiring people not hiring yes but we want any private side hiring them not the government here because they go anywhere when you where they're not alive nothing. their own money by the private final take here half of these jobs that were created with equal wal-mart greeter jobs i think until we change our trade policies in a really significant way that that makes both republicans and democrats frankly cringe other than a few progresses in congress and ron paul. we're going to continue to have a problem in my view and you see any in a new c.n.n. poll shows support for the tea party all time low just thirty two percent yesterday fox news had to abandon its daylong breaking news out of the press coverage on the

tea party rally here on capitol hill because pretty much nobody showed up they said it was because of bad weather but the washington nationals just down the street were having no such problem their plan balls the weather was bad so is the tea party in its death throes how long till this right corner hats are put up for good no it's what you're witnessing is the maturation of the tea party. they're going from rallying and showing up at rallies and this was this is poorly organized was put together and what you're seeing is they're becoming entrenched establishment figures to the good i don't mean to the bad they're not showing up at rallies anymore they're working towards two thousand and twelve working towards ousting more big government republicans and democrats and becoming a fixture in the political process rather than an appendage as it was in twenty centimeters or showing up in wisconsin yeah i mean i think the tea party is a joke you know the original tea party said about these opposition republicans and i always have sort of joke it's not a joke corruptly those are going to see already the result it was and that is huge

in the british and evolution with the east india company we're talking about the other way that i get your mail is about collusion with india and impact you know this is down thirty right now and i thought it would. have taken a lot of members are waking up to that they might as well guess what the government act in the twenty twelve elections they've already had a huge impact in two thousand and ten calling it a joke is a waste of time because these members of congress who were doing exactly what is a waste of time know calling it a joke is a waste of time because the members of congress are here and are here doing what their constituents want the right did. by the tea party they won or lost because of the tea party going to the party yeah we're going to the tea party took over the republican party in the house are going to take over the really make they're able to take over a look at what they're doing in the house it's all a joke they're not equating jobs that you know every american wants the government doing right now i mean job the american people rising to the front is the american people want a simple about the economy as you are a big government shrinks the profits are going to expand you're saying no i'm sure you understand it and you want to say you are saying get out of control budget that's it get that under control i would imagine and they look at the current

situation and they say look this government is doing zilch the house is doing zilch to create jobs all they're talking about is cutting and that's going to cut a million jobs around the country what's left of our economic you're quoting that fraudulent number. going to be what he's going to do you know where he wants all along see if you will see are you going to cut a letter to his holiday yes i read that he wrote i think what's happening with the tea party is that people are waking up you know i do a radio show three hours a day five days a week and i'm getting it's blowing my mind i will get host one tea party radio show and one of the stations christian radio these people are not who are supposed to be the tea party fifty five year old women they all are they're not going to show up at a rally in washington d.c. but there is you know why welfare reform i look back and let me go to a song paid for by yeah i don't know. we'll see we'll see a government shutdown could be just one week away senate majority leader harry reid placed the blame of failed negotiations on the tea party saying the infighting between the tea party in the rest of the republican party is keeping our negotiating partner from the negotiating table meanwhile the democrats are pushing

for a provision that would suspend congressional salaries in the event of a shutdown so if they're successful with republicans finally do everything they can to shut out the tea party and prevent a shutdown now that their bank accounts are on line or are republican it's like small time crook there i said to richard care and other play with fire you get burned you know and what the republican party did was likely with the fire of the tea party who now have infiltrated the house and the congress and they've taken over to a large part and you. we really need the republican leaders those that do still exist to stand up to the extremists in their party that are rooting for a government shutdown that are cost us billions of dollars in our economy i love this place he will agree but i'll tell you what it's going to not support you in two thousand and twelve people do not want to go to the out and see this what you were talking about debate over thirty billion dollars in cuts thirty or sixty five tell us what he would tell you why is that even a debate the democrats have to have with us why can't they stop the yellowing one point six trillion debt we're going to move forward past your sixty million billion

in cuts and we'll move for the next year you got another election coming up people don't like the cuts they come back to power instead of that they're bickering over thirty billion dollars and i think you've already seen from john boehner on the cover shot that john boehner said we know we only have a third control we're going to have to do we can't you're going to be in agreement i don't think republicans want to tell them we're going to governor walker and his poll numbers now they don't call the voters folks if you know what he did exactly what it was morning and it's tough when you do it and you have to look at what happens long term and they don't want to know what they're going to call and they ran off the road on this and i hear that really republican governors around the country going oh i'm not sure i want to stop in the backyard daniels is going back to you also tonight because you have a conscience and what is chris christie is none of the office and i can tell you he's not backing off he just said governor daniels doesn't have a conscience you know you did ok my take on this is that like wisconsin the republicans are going to are overplaying their hand frankly that they probably will shut down the government when they do their pay for it one sleeve dollars and stabilises overplaying their hand with sixty billion in cuts is not we will see we

should see g.e. was the latest corporation to be outed for making billions in profits while pain absolutely no corporate taxes like to get a tax refund of three point two billion dollars republicans for some reason think corporate taxes are still too high check out what soon to be presidential candidate newt gingrich said about corporate tax dodgers in general to corporations who are making millions and millions in profit but not then not contributing anything to the united states government to take this fairly and that means of profit from. boy those people in those towns those people because you want to so i am for the maximum job creation and united states i think that means lower taxes on your chances so the question is how do you possibly cut corporate taxes to less than zero in america and who are the real job creation place because there's at least one republican talking about jobs there but he's kind of got the wrong mentality about it i mean jeez creating a ton of jobs right now in china and india and around the world unfortunately

there's not a lot of jobs getting created here at the moment but and you know she alone would pay their taxes then we could restart jobs you know that you know a little bit wary of bush right wind and you know the full story saying israel when he was saying that he is violating the law they're following the law right on the books of the tax code why the united states has the highest corporate tax in the developing thirty five players in the laws that they created and we actually have a law as it is i don't like you are as evil as the second lowest. but if you want to bring any of those tax rates and there have been deals that they have tried to work out five percent to bring more and they never go through the democrats or stood in the way that so guess what those companies are going to keep moving overseas so long as it's legal and today it is right there's one democrat that wants to do comprehensive corporate tax reform it's ron wyden and that's it he's the only one the republicans are on board for streamlining of the tax code lowering the rates getting rid of a lot of the exemptions which gets. down to is your zero percent in the one nine hundred fifty s. during the republican eisenhower administration had a republican congress yet it's x.

rated ninety one percent on the very wealthy and corporate income taxes constituted thirty one percent of total government revenues things were doing pretty good right now corporate revenues are six point six yeah right how could you travel right bowling we are only those numbers held right up pretty much until reagan had the world were competing that we chinese and indians of the world and places like yours would see with governments of the world right as china is also dies as a synonym for psuedo lynch who would say i will be below us is your very lame you're going to be all right. yes and you know you miss the main american people know them shipping our go have this great you know i think i really do unions and i don't know your tax rate finish off the unions in america is low down to the middle class or that's crazy that is our next job creating jobs left there is erica one has a jogger to look at that being actually doing it we're going to actually feel like we can see the people like to haitian answering the a lot of you know you know work you said you wanted to maybe you would you like a bad place a union member because you know if you understand the thought you understand their

freedom you understand now you're not going to be you know one of the people like you were to another the way the economy and workers are i took human rights and that's the commerce of the world if you want to compete with them you have to figure out a way to compete and that's what we're going to. wrap this up by saying in my opinion the real job creators are the people have money in their pockets that i spend and that creates demand in the economy thanks hands and thanks i way back to actually all the way back to gilgamesh years it never works just a quick fire here we got about a minute and a half and i fear republican representative sean duffy from wisconsin is in hot water this week for saying that he's struggling to pay his bills on his hundred seventy four thousand dollars annual taxpayer funded salary take a look. here to you but most of you are if you're to. secure. a student loads. of you. know i think it was. ok so i did it one paycheck but still three times higher than the

average wisconsin workers so how duffy with the bills what can the people of wisconsin through here's some multiple choice possibilities a teacher's can put out a special table just for duffy at their next bake sale where they're raising money for the schools that walk or took away b. they can petition congress to give all members of congress collective bargaining rights or c. they can give duffy a role on a new reality t.v. show i hear he's really good at it's called the real congress the tourists. ory of seven lawmakers pick to work on capitol hill and how their lives have changed i know what happens when lawmakers stop being bipartisan and start being car wow i love america it is really hard to be a congressman and only make one hundred seventy five thousand dollars every year please send your top hats and send your french cup shirts and center monocles needs and representative sean duffy really needs your help today because he's not work in a job that pays the american media and income about thirty five to fifty thousand dollars you know exactly what the article was not which is let's say this was

a bad way to go on those we left out one important thing which is that he said he supported the cut and congressional salaries and he has six kids he has to live in two cities most people don't have the courage to happen for the right just a really hard because i didn't say that i really was so bad but why not have the whole quote which said and i'm fine with slashing my pay and it's really why would you leave that up to do so i admit i don't know i don't think it was time i slash if it was six thousand dollars a year said if. he'd said we got our desire to live a hundred seventy five thousand dollars a year these are hard to live if i had to have six kids and to go to two cities i don't maybe that's for sean duffy i don't know what his bills are so you want to go there is what i see down your thoughts on this i look i'm just i'm really tired of the left scrutinizing everybody else's money just because it's not your business that we do people whose business it is is a person that writes a check and a person who catches this incessant whining about other people's money what we're really is i want and this is just the trash writing matches without a second because if you're a male here's a threat ok then we have to wrap it up absolutely nothing is what i say is going to

happen absolutely nothing except that come the next election they'll vote him in as many of them out of office that was so jordan cycle ryan clayton seat molly thank you all for being here that's what i was about rates are going after a break a daily take on why c.e.o.'s shouldn't be complaining about anything next. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right now. i think the rocket is readable and funny well. whenever government says there can feel safe get ready because you give them their

freedom. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for life sleep is if you understand it and then you live something else here sees some other part of it and realize that everything is all you don't know i'm sorry welcome is a big issue. for . folks.

if you're watching them as somebody said this morning i may have noticed this odd little tease for a story coming up later in the day take a look. aaron what do you what are you doing to have your show work talking about something i get you off right out which is this whole issue of c.e.o. . personal regular compensation we'll see what arguments. oh thank you this helps a lot for stuff where we were paid. that's right c.e.o.'s complaining that their salaries haven't quite reached three recession levels the guy robbing a bank and then complaining you didn't get as much loot as you hoped for the absurdity of this complaint by millionaires and billionaires can't really fully be

understood until we take into account this fact that last year in two thousand and ten the average pay of corporate c.e.o.'s jumped twenty seven percent twenty seven percent from two thousand i did two thousand and ten already rich c.e.o.'s got a twenty seven percent pay raise but i guess that's not enough meanwhile the pay of average workers those guys work in the factory floor while the rich bosses play golf with a twenty seven percent pay increase those workers average pay ticked up just slightly a mere two percent increase from two thousand and nine to two thousand and ten a good c.e.o.'s got twenty seven percent pay raise last year workers two percent that's actually a point less than inflation so it's really a pay cut in real dollars twenty percent in percent versus two percent they just see the wealth gap between the rich and the working class grow we were three years

out of the bush great recession and our economy is headed for a double dip recession the housing market in my humble opinion a surge in poverty levels and a stagnant job market ever since the bush recession began in two thousand and seven average u.s. families have seen a combined combined loss of twelve point eight trillion dollars in wealth much of it. twelve point eight trillion. that's nearly as much as our nation's entire gross domestic product which is around fifteen trillion right down the drain main street is still bleeding. but on wall street the average take home pay putting salary bonuses and stock options for c.e.o. rush are thrown eight point six million just a hair shy of the pre-recession level of nine point two million dollars back in two thousand and seven and for the top hedge fund managers average income last year was two billion dollars per person they're doing just fine but i guess that's not

enough money they wanted ten million twenty million one hundred million the nonprofit organization wider opportunities for women recently published a report on what would be necessary for a minimum annual salary to meet the basic needs of a private individual family we're talking about the bare minimum to put a roof over your head run the heat the winter the air conditioning in the summer food on the table gas in the car childcare health insurance policy plus a little bit extra for retirement and rainy days you know that bare minimum is on average in the united states now sixty seven thousand nine hundred twenty dollars unfortunately the average income for a white family in america is only about fifty four thousand dollars more than ten thousand dollars shy of what they need to get by and for african-american families it's even worse only thirty two thousand less than half of what they need that

means families all across america are having to sacrifice their savings their retirement plans dinner a few nights a week we actually have kids going to bed hungry in the united states millions of them a summer without air conditioning and sadly really serious stuff like medical care when they or their child for as will just have bought just to make it month to month week to week day day to. and the c.e.o.'s who are bringing home an average of nine million dollars which is a little over twenty four thousand dollars a day three hundred sixty five days out of the year are complaining that their salaries are still too low i think it's time we tell them to put a sock in it i don't know about you but i'm tired of c.e.o.'s complaining about their million dollar paychecks while nearly a quarter of our country lives in poverty literal poverty i'm tired of hearing

c.e.o.'s complain about their income tax rates when rates are actually at the lowest level they've been in the last fifty years i'm tired of hearing c.e.o.'s complain about their corporate taxes and most of the really profitable companies in america pay little or no taxes and i'm tired of hearing c.e.o.'s complain about government regulations when in the last five years they crashed our financial markets destroyed the gulf of mexico shoveled tons and tons of toxic chinese goods that us shipped millions of jobs overseas and all the while families across america are today right now sacrificing the basic necessities of life in india so the question today is not should certain c.e.o.'s be paid more it's should certain c.e.o.'s have their citizenship revoked and be put on trial for treason what else would you call someone who steals poisons and sabotage is their

home country other than a traitor and economy is meant to serve all of us not just the super rich so it's time for all of us you and me to take back our economy and really give the millionaires and billionaires something that will have it. and that's. and that's the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we covered this is our web site at thom hartmann dot. dot com entire show by the way available as a free podcast cover on i tunes also check out both there you choose pages there's one are you trying to slash the big picture artsy at youtube dot com slash tom. and don't forget democracy for you you show up when you participate and you get active then this country gets real tag you're it.

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