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discipline of children strikes full time segments and then secretary gates travel to saudi arabia to a supposedly discuss the role of iran after the us turn on both mubarak and saleh could gates be doing a little reassuring to canal villa but the u.s. is still on his side. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think. either one of twelve. we never got the chance to the keep him safe get ready if you are looking for freedom.
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hi guys welcome to shelley tell me i'm going to show we've heard our guests talk to say on the topic now i want to hear. just go on to you tube the video response for the twitter profile of the questions that we've posted on you tube every monday and on the first day of the show the long response is going to leave your voice the. right time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to a fox news host who has no qualms about using extreme measures to discipline children gretchen carlson and her morning show colleagues were discussing a story out of colorado today or an eight year old girl a severe temper tantrum in class so severe that they decided to call the police to get the child under control and how do you think the police restrained him by using pepper spray yeah i'm pretty sure that most people would find that to be a little bit extreme but apparently not gretchen. because he does have
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a temper issue i've been talked to about it but wait a minute would you think they should have not pepper sprayed him i would think i'm not in law enforcement but i would think if if there were some we saw officers watching right now that they've been trained in a way to be able to get somebody wielding a board. you have a sharp stick he was a short teachers and others he said quote get away from me you and then a word that starts what i say one hundred percent pepper spray you do i'm interested in some parenting classes as well i mean wow ok so apparently gretchen is gung ho about using pepper spray i'm sorry but how she not seen the way the pepper spray makes grown men fall to their knees in tears luckily that her colleagues managed to provide a bit of a more saner response in this situation. look just right if you were a police officer tell me can you take out an eight year old that pepper spray i kid you yes actually all right in my book it's called as a clue. god forbid that
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a child throws a temper tantrum around gretchen can you imagine what she would do if a kid forgot to put away his toys but now what's the appropriate punishment for that being handcuffed to a chair in the corner for time out maybe but let's get one thing straight here i would bet money that if it was gretchen's child that was being pepper sprayed by cops she wouldn't be so cool with it so for once i actually agree with the other hosts of this show and there were no other alternatives to call this child beast but besides spraying him in the face with pepper spray you got to be kidding me if the police aren't trained well enough to keep a child under control then i really doubt the police will be useful say a grown man is robbing you but back to gretchen's analysis the fact that she wouldn't speak out against using extreme abusive measures like this to punish children is surprising enough but to say i'm cool with it well that's was going a little too far if you ask me i'm sure that her viewers gave her plenty of feedback on her comments so i'll let her stew in that pile of hatred for but for
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her support of spray first ask questions later to dealing with children gretchen carlson is tonight's to a time where. secretary of defense robert gates is in saudi arabia today meeting with king of supposedly the main topic of discussion will be iran photo both nations whom they suspect has been playing a role and trying to exploit the unrest in the region to their advantage and that's according to pentagon spokesman geoff morrell we have to wonder if there are some tensions in this relationship if ministration turning on yemen sali longtime al a should make the saudis question how deep a friendship with the u.s. can really go and perhaps libya has shown as the perfect example these days but not even being oil rich can save you joining me to discuss it is jack rice criminal defense attorney and former cia officer jack thanks so much for joining us tonight . now for starters the pentagon spokesman described the relationship between robert gates and of doula as excellent that's kind of similar to when we heard hillary
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clinton last year saying that she had a very close relationship with no hosni mubarak as well so do you think if you were the saudis you'd be a little bit skeptical here seeing if the u.s. has now turned its back on mubarak saying that they've also now turned their back on solid a and even oil didn't help gadhafi out. oh those are worried questions and i agree there is going to be a lot of attention to exploit that right now i don't care how much they want to shine this of i mean i think about as secretary of defense robert gates was actually my boss for periods when i was working at cia but he was the head of the agency at sony and i look at where he is right now i mean here's the probably keep marriage really have is there sort of a skid support equation ship it america has with much of the middle east and even other parts of the world we talk about the need for democracy and it's arson or in places like egypt or where we are right now in tripoli or where we are other parts of the world even in yemen and get at the same time historically what the americans
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have done is they have supported essentially authoritarian dictators this is happening throughout the middle east but peculiarly with our we've seen the same thing with king you look at saudi arabia and the saudis in general or you will have to be sharp and have miscarried i mean this happens over and over shall i just go directly to the source fear let's think about what you did in iran out of former order when we decided we wanted essentially a dictator in place of the popularly elected leader back in the so this is not new and that's our problem it's the thing that also has something to do with why you know supposedly the administration is really pushing for yemen's president saleh to get out but they haven't announced it publicly they haven't said mccarthy must step down they haven't said like they did with gadhafi that he has to go they're doing all this behind the scenes and is that a way to try to appease the saudis may they also haven't said anything about the fact that saudi arabian troops went into bahrain. well you're absolutely right that is exactly what they're trying to do if they do this out of the public eye they're
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hoping that he will simply go away but if we get a look again for a second and the real problem there what everybody is concerned about is are. they are operating reaching here i'm looking back i see this picture specter what you and i were talking about just a moment ago the problem here is is that skin support approach between supporting authoritarian dictators which we've been more than willing to do on the one side well saying that they sometimes need to go but if you create this vacuum it see that's our short term problem and our long term problem in the short term we're trying to do is we're saying we want to know where everything is one issue that we have stability business for oil for all sorts of things but what we create is essentially an entire population who despises the government and us despises the united states so in the long term it is complete disaster so robert gates a secretary if it rolls into saudi arabia is interested. this is
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a great relationship with the saudis are looking at the same o'hara wait a second we're talking about what happened in egypt we're going to look at tripoli we're looking at yemen where else are we next are our heads on the block next and that's really what we want to see robert gates say no no no we really like you well maybe so it probably is a little bit of a kiss up trip then i can imagine what do you make of this focus that they're putting on iran is that just you know is that just a way to kind of detract from what they're really talking about so that they tell people this is going on and this is a about iran of the fact that they think that iran is taking advantage of the protests me does that also in a way deal of jeremiah's these people's movements that are going on in these countries. of course it does and you know absolutely it does the problem is obviously you know i think about this in terms of my experience working in the
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middle east again in cairo and even in turkey in jordan in the. territories iraq weight everywhere i've been and i've talked to a lot of people about this probably is it was a credibility gap when the americans when they say one and the other while you may be talking about this here if you want to really are they want to focus on where they're going back is still over thought and that's really the problem while the americans will continue to get things that they want this is not an anti left or a tie right where it just is the law and so your willingness to actually focus on this issue really says a lot about your program well thank you i do have to admit we will be spending about a minute or two talking about glenn beck leaving t.v. but that's is because i'm so happy that i couldn't hold it in anymore now jack i also want to ask you though in terms of yemen right you could say the obviously
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they're saying that. is a huge threat for us obviously we give a lot of military aid to yemen something that the pentagon has said so far that they're not willing to cut off despite the situation there but bias turning our back on does not mean that instead of counterterrorism we're actually trying to choose these ideals and choose the people's movement or do you bet that we're going to be very much involved in who in this transition and whoever might be a successor. i don't give a damn about ideals honestly we go we need to act like you do and by the way i would argue that president obama has been hypocritical on this issue as president bush will get very same thing was true of clinton and bush sr and basically and everybody else that we have a white house for the last thirty forty fifty years so what we're going to see the americans doing everything that you have to try to a big next person what were the stability and again as i just spoke about that's the short term solution which causes the long term cash that we're now dealing with
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so what are the big things and you know we're also seeing the results of that right now in libya where the rebels are saying that nato isn't doing enough it really seems to be at a bit of a standstill and that situation isn't going anywhere and of course a lot of people don't have a positive i think you know where it could go with yemen as well jack i want to thank you so much for filling us in and there's definitely a lot going on in the region right now thanks. to you. now it's time for a quick break and when we return we have big a huge new plan that are very praiseworthy fear mongering cloudesley box here's a look give you some of our favorite clips from a man who provided fresh anger and entertainment for this show and then scott walker is starting to feel the backlash from his attacks on the working people of wisconsin so it's all about the huge alex hurrell upset that house republicans across the country shaken the neighborhoods. get some closure see the story and it seems so for late sleep you think you understand it and then he lives something else you hear see some other part of it and realize
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hey guys welcome michel ancel on the alona show we've heard our guest stop to say on the topic now i want to hear our audience is going to you tube the video response or twitter for part of the question that we've posted on you tube every monday and on thursday with the show your responses please let your voice be heard . well ladies and gentlemen we have some very very sad news for you today seems that
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glenn beck and fox news are going to be getting a new chapter and they will now fade out the glenn beck program even though it's the third highest rated program on the network glenn beck will stop the daily show and work on more individual projects at the end of this year that's what they announced today at least i'm sorry folks but i really have to take a moment and think of what will life be like without glenn beck without the daily doomsday machine that keeps fear live in all of our hearts you remember how he told us who the good guys and the real bad guys were in the end put them in terms of us average folk can relate to vampires. the government is full of empires and they are trying to suck the life blood out of the economy there's only two ways for this movie to end either the economy becomes like a walking dead or you drive us stake through the heart of the blood suckers. glenn also has a laser focus on socialism he's always been so very concerned about the threat of
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socialist taking over this country and he was always the one to tell average americans that the head honcho in the oval office was really a socialist in disguise. are you sure she was party chair church like all those evil conservatives like me i've been claiming for a while he originally said. no and then went on rabble about the budget and energy spending. if he would i mean it doesn't matter what legislation is making waves because obama is a socialist so nobody else has the balls to come forward and say that the way that glenn beck really does and you know what else going it's done for us he's taught us that our children's lives are at stake the government and its friends are indoctrinating our children for the control of their minds your freedom and our choice and our future it must stop. here that brainwashing and these are just to name a few of the ways that he's really bent over backwards for us his daily efforts to
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right the wrongs of the world to prove fox news is fair and balanced and his general hatred for anyone who isn't light has really put life in perspective for millions of viewers every single night why hundreds of advertisers stop selling their products during his program is really beyond me no way it's right he said obama is a racist and has a deep seated hatred for white people so as we bid that they do let's just take another moment to reflect upon the ways that he spread his message. i'm sorry but. i just love my country. the next morning at six again with my. son. philip. let me get in my. he really knows the.
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i've. just got here is an awful lot about. making sure. life about glenn beck really does bring me to tears and i have so many questions chuck's suddenly be considered out of style will chalkboards no longer be a hot commodity where can i go to find survivor kids for when the world ends or at least somebody please tell me if i'm still supposed to invest in gold believe me media critics comedians they're all going to suffer without their daily dose of back to make fun of but all joking aside as far as i'm concerned the sooner that his show is over the better thank the lord how little even though they'll still be spreading his bile on the radio at least i don't have to see this space on t.v. anymore he'll spec. now just as we saw barack obama officially launch
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a reelection campaign that lacked any inspiration or any excitement anything that would make a voter feel passionately about voting in a state of wisconsin has showed us all of that on a local level and what was supposed to be a run of the mill easy re-election for a conservative judge on the state's supreme court has turned into a full referendum of governor scott walker's policies and his anti-union legislation now it seems the democratic judge joanna kloppenburg has taken the lead over the incumbent even scott walker's old seat in milwaukee was won by a democrat in a landslide victory so is this a sign of a rejection of november's elections and that old win for republicans and doesn't mean that perhaps americans should focus on local elections to bring about change rather than presidential candidates who if obama is the example never seem to bring it earlier from our studio in los angeles i caught up with and it is fair enough the young turks i first asked her if she thought the what we're seeing it was
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constant is a response november's elections a reaction by the progressive movement. i don't think that it's a reaction to the november elections i think it's a direct reaction to republicans in the state attacking workers' rights i feel like for the first time progressives in the state are waking up because they're feeling that the republicans targeting their rights when it comes to collective bargaining or union rights and so they're really standing up and fighting for what they believe so the whole issue with scott walker is positive because i think that it's really triggered political activism in the state and i think that that could snowball into something larger on the national level but as far as this being a reaction to the november elections i don't think so i think it's a little more unique than i you don't think so one thing that we saw in november was not only a lot of republicans come in to take new senate seats or new seats in the house but we saw a lot of republican governors sweep in as well and of course you know it was all
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played out with this pretext that so many of the states are going through a financial crisis the you need these republicans that are going to change things that are going to get the house in order and balance the budgets and yet now we're seeing in many of those states that the way they choose to do that is by going after the collective bargaining rights of unions. well the thing is i don't think that any of the middle class and working class families in wisconsin or anywhere else in the united states expected the republicans to balance the budget on their backs so i don't i don't think that it's a response to the november elections i don't think it's them saying. i don't think it's them saying like ok we didn't like the republicans and now we're now we're going to go for the democrats again and after that we're going to go out for the republicans again that pattern i don't know if that's the case here i think that what's really happening is they're upset with the fact the republicans are attacking their workers' rights and they want to make sure that you know what especially with the supreme court the state supreme court situation right now in
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wisconsin they want to do whatever is possible to prevent that republican law from passing through so then does it tell us that perhaps we need to pay a lot more attention perhaps voters need to pay a lot more attention to their state and local elections you know often all we hear about is of course these races on the national level but if you look at some of the biggest changes that are happening they're not happening on capitol hill or in the white house washington is a changing they're happening in states where these people are going after collective bargaining rights where they're going after restrictive abortion laws they're trying to eliminate some child labor laws i feel like this is really an area we need to focus on. yes i agree with that one hundred percent i think that it's really important for the constituents in each district of each state to really hold their politicians accountable because right now if you really focus on obama and you focus on the administration they're not doing enough to appease their base and i guess we'll talk about that a little bit later but what you need to do is make sure that you hold your local
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representatives accountable so they are forced to represent you and what you want and what you need if they're not representing you then you voted him out and i think that's possibly what's going to happen with the supreme court in wisconsin right now. all right well let's get to. you know i feel personally like it's been one disappointment one flip flop after another and of course this week we saw the exact same thing happen when it comes to. mohammad and now trying him in a military commission instead of in a federal civilian courts and you know it's like i feel like these guys just don't care and maybe they even did it on purpose we often hear the phrase the republicans fear their base and the democrats actually hate their own base but i thought was interesting rachel maddow took it one step further last night and said you know not only do these democrats hate their base but they also now think that it's good politics to hate them educate them into the teeth publicly and they think that's ok . yes they do think it's ok and you know glenn greenwald from salon dot com great
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excellent piece about this and he perfectly gives you know these examples that show how the obama administration basically abandons his base not only abandons his base kicks them in the teeth and gets away with it and the reason for that is i think it has a lot to do with like hopelessness ok because if you're not going to vote for the obama administration if you're progressive and you're not going to vote for the obama administration especially for reelection then what are you going to vote for a republican and the democrats have been so successful at making progressive voters fear the g.o.p. that they know that they're always going to have this unconditional love from progressive's even if they abandon the base progressive they're going to feel like they have no other choice they can't vote for the g.o.p. so they're going to vote for obama and since obama already knows he has their votes now he can focus on people that are a little shaky maybe the independents maybe the people that are unsure of who
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they're going to vote for during the next election so it's really a difficult situation because it's hard for voters to hold obama accountable if they have no other choice. yeah definitely. you there and i think that they they have that feeling they think that some of these voters that are on board just don't count they think that a lot of fear will play into it and i think that's what we see out of this new re-election bid that you know that obama has launched you with this new video it's really not even about candidate obama it's not about inspiring people anymore it's just kind of well you know that's the logical thing to do because it's your responsibility and think of what could be worse but i find that so frustrating i mean isn't there something we can do some way we can fight back i don't want to hear about my responsibility to go out and vote from somebody who in my opinion didn't live up to his responsibilities of fulfilling his promises as a politician. you know if you just pose a really difficult question there that people in the blogosphere are debating right
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now as we speak joan walsh from salon dot com made the argument that maybe it's a good idea to hold off supporting obama until next year i don't i don't know what kind of change that's going to bring about she also argues that being a primary elections for the democrats also doesn't make sense because the fact that it might possibly divide the democratic base i disagree with her on that i'm willing to take that risk i would love to have another option i would love to you know really scare obama into focusing more on the people who have supported him and the people who have been voting for him so i would love to have a primary election for the democrats and i'd love to have another option but i don't think that that's going to happen it's very unlikely it's a difficult question to answer but i think that right now the most important thing to do is to focus on state representatives and focus on whether or not they're representing their constituents i want to thank you for joining with us i don't
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think we're going to see a primary challenger but i do wish that somehow we could at least take their feet to the fire a little bit put some fear back in their hearts that they might not get every elected so easily thanks. thank you. arved. there we go tonight it's time for our tweet of the day tim valenti the world's most boring candidate finally has a scandal under his belt last night a staff member from his exploratory committee got a little too drunk in iowa and then tried to break into the house of a fifteen year old girl at three o'clock in the morning so i would be alone to show tweets we apologize for our jewels i'm segment last night maybe he popped really can connect with the you know if they're going to show thanks for tuning in to me because back tomorrow we'll continue to count down the clock and a little bit government shutdown in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the a lot of show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of the night's show or any other nights if you know it's cash and ali gets moved up call it slash below the show or post the interviews as well as the show in its entirety
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