as more rebels are reportedly killed by the glow of the air strikes in libya are libyans who were once singing nato's praises now crying out against the coalition in outrage. and the organization the u.s. went to to lead that intervention in libya becomes the punching bag of lawmakers on capitol hill are they really concerned with reforming the united nations or other interests at stake. we must needs teen ties with our allies and enemies must be clearly identified i hope that this is ministration can tell who's who and

we hope you know which one is ileana ros lake and she an ally or enemy and you love her or hate her there's never a dull moment with this congresswoman we'll take a look at foreign affairs iraq colored lenses. that evening it's thursday april seventh seven pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster and your watching our team now as fighting continues in libya are the tides turning or rebels now turning on nato for failing them libyan rebels blamed a mistaken nato air strike today for killing up to seven some doctors on the ground reported thirteen rebels later rebel spokeswoman and some eyewitnesses on the ground and the attack came from forces loyal to libyan leader moammar gadhafi but even if that's the case it would be the first by libyan. or planes since the u.s.

and nato began in forcing a no fly zone three weeks ago and if it was an accidental nato air strike this isn't the first it comes after another last week killed thirteen rebels archies own eager piece going off is on the ground in benghazi and he reports a change of tune among rebels once hailing nato as their savior now protesting in outrage as the firsthand account. veteran of the libyan army moved to gunning serve his country all the way to retirement but now he's fighting for the revolution and is among the few rebels in the bronx with military training and experience. their forces are not even we are ready to fight to the death but with these weapons we don't stand a chance against gadhafi since need to control the north winds on the region it's going to mean more than one thousand sorties in the media including four hundred attack missions the u.n. and wanes around the bird of that peace forces have now been destroyed with despite

help from the skies on the grounds of the rebels are still thinking about ending. nato has failed there are civilians in the strike zone and we daily have a new martyrs. just a week ago people got more or revolutionary always being the terrorists siddiqui may go for it but at the price going to. back with a good deal gone missing every day it seems to really all mean a hold over if you like the screen actors guild writing as well although it's like this one are becoming common seen me are using media of feeling to protect civilians we are asking for help anymore the demanding. the right. well are there waiting for the gadhafi ticket was sold we demand a new u.n. resolution which would allow only knows. but after say arming the rebels alone

wouldn't house mean war what the rebels need is not so much like a new arms or training any the forces are now servicing that the u.s. and egypt are on good retraining and even if forces going beyond the mandate of the un resolution that established do not know i know you got this going to have are the thing that the media. and i'm joined now by pat day after correspondent asia times he's been covering the developments in libya heavy thanks for joining us now you know what do you think is really going on here is nato making mistakes are they failing arrivals are they illiquid it to deal with what they thought they would be doing to get have done what you think is really the nature of what's going on here the nature of going on these nato incompetence number one ok you know what they want they want a colo of tanks of qaddafi forces sitting in the desert like sitting ducks so they can bomb them at will like this was

a replay of visits oram in iraq more than twenty years ago this is not going to happen because gaddafi now is using mao's it goes back six no you don't you don't remain a leader for forty years adults learning a lot from previous wars learning for answers from a knows it dawns that the real effect is hoshi means guerrilla tactics what went wrong with southern hussein's army for instance you know what is he doing what kind of his forces are going there disguising their remaining tanks and armored personnel carriers inside or around the cities so you have a cluster of twenty or thirty thinks they can be easily bored. by nature their forces they are spread out so he's using guerrilla against the guerrilla ok let me say it's working ok let me get in your pappy do you think that nato is realizing that if i were thinking some diplomatic efforts why worthing us former congressman bidding khadafi to speak with him and you western allies and u.s. envoys going to meet with the rebels and end directly talking with gadhafi what the

saying is that you know the cleverest pensacola in general strong to start the new this will be a stalemate and this explains why the u.s. itself the obama administration itself has realized that there's got to be some sort of negotiation this thing is which positional force your goods and negotiate from as it stands. the rebels they don't have anything apart from these few of the eastern cedars in syria and iraq so the british for instance they have been cause for forty eight hours now sending a yes trained specialists to train these forces in the east this could take months to sleep possible people are already talking about a cease fire next week like a measure of you know soundness you know this is the turkish government the turkish government is making a bridge between cut afy and the rabble so next week they're going to host a meeting with bull started and start to negotiate

a cease fire that's the only possible solution like as soon as u.s. went out of the equation viaducts on the hearts of committed by africa out of their headquarters in stuka nato to call for in the whole scene collapse because they don't have a stretch for a fight in the desert yemen it does know how to do it they've got everything in sight but you cannot do this anymore when i think the end game is playing out in faith now do you think that they believe that they can ask and awful and really have the rebels can win that's. you know it's absolutely possible in terms of the analyzing the force and so there are on the ground what you see is a stadium and qatar feel it will be in a sixty forty percent of positional source at the moment what do you think those happy what do you think the u.s. is trying to do now what you think their next step is i mean we know that obama signs are allowing the cia to train forthwith train rebel forces and enter could be on the ground there are reports that from our correspondent that that's going on

what do you think the united states is now trying to accomplish we can look at their trades and go for a hail mary pass you know somebody from the. inner circle comes up with approval through therapy or bullet in the head this is not going to happen because they noted they turned the military they could hang on for months they still have excess . deafness fern's inside libya as his friends in the arab world plus his friends in other african countries which have been completely sidelined from brutal situations don't forget the african union most of these governments there proclaimed that they were totally sidelined by the west so the only possible solution as i see is that turkish mediation so we have to wait until next week to see where this is go i mean now critics including yourself have accused the united states are trying to install essentially a puppet government that would represent our best or an obviously. regime has not

been sent back to the west in a way that the united states of probably like it to be so what do you think really is the goal there now if that's what you think the u.s. is trying to accomplish. look if the if this thing only considers underground what again it seems practice is the vocalisation of labor we've got to have a western libya gadhafi family in place with excess limited firms were not exhausted. and we have eastern libya syria nika controlled by the rebels with the very thoughts. the government where you can find anybody from a former cut off the loyalists islam is so like well qaida or porch in this room is all sorts of you know weapons contractors and supported by the west of course that's right that in the market by tractor. right i want to ask you about that because could this actually backfire on the united states i mean to make a comparison back to when the united states and back to the mujahideen during the

soviet occupation in afghanistan now those are some of the fighters that the united states is fighting and its mission there today could this backfire in the same way with the u.s. backing arrivals of course like ace to greet certainly chone was jones was with us who will be talking about blowback as we speak yes the u.s. and the brits basically want to arm the rebels you know that could happen in effect it's already happened they raided some arms depots you know used in libya and this set out ok they're really fringe. in the maghreb vary from the already half surface to air missiles and the took this out of libya so it's probably somewhere in shops in central africa and this you know african countries they know how these next words work because they have people on the ground and you know where they go how they cross the desert well these things so this is already happening can you imagine if these rebels are armed by the cia pentagon s.a.'s from

britain and all that can be measured this is six months we're going to have mujahideen to sue well yeah they it seems really uncertain now matthew you're in brazil you and you are reporter for asia times i want to know how this is being perceived the u.s. role internationally because as you saw in a report from our correspondent from with in benghazi people say the u.s. is overstepping the u.n. resolution resolution how is this person from your end. look this is important i meter started to decision not to call the other world so i could cover the big picture i missed at the rate because i'm a reporter of course with a good thing about taking the big picture is that for instance looking at brazil at the moment obama which is very popular in brazil more than eighty percent he launched a war against an african ration he's an african american president truman a country which has an enormous african-american population brazil and it's

a pacifist country and most progressive groups were totally possible and they are actually saying look of course we can go through the whole purpose some of these policies but we cannot be approved a war against an african country and we have to defend some sort of human it's area and the least that is not be met by i mean how u.s. nato aggression so all over south america likely argentina ecuador believes if it is well or what the u.s. did by launching a war if i had it's on now very very bad in that the really interesting point you mentioned a humanitarian aspect to many critics see this as going far beyond a humanitarian war i want to know if you think that this is exactly what a great country and and germany that had of tensions to the u.n. resolution here what happened what's happening right now you're totally right effect these are times of broker story last week talking about a u.s.

solve the deal in fact and the u.n. ambassador strong germany interim the bric countries they learned about this deal before when they were discussing the trust resolution and this is the main saw because of their refusal to fultz they abstain which is a very people matic way or say we don't agree with all because they were raising objections say why can't we do the same thing about the rate in yemen for instance and obviously from the french bric american side it was an alliance right off arthur contradiction. and double standards that have come out over the last month during libya. all of this other unrest i know you've been following it and we appreciate you bringing us your perspective especially from outside of the u.s. from brazil that was passed the bar he's a journalist for the asia times. now you'll recall the united states went to the united nations to take the lead on libya which we have been talking so much about on a military intervention and a no fly zone but this week the u.n.

has become a punching bag of u.s. lawmakers as ambassador to the u.n. susan rice is there on the hill defending the organization against budget cuts at a hearing today on reforming the u.n. it quickly pitted believers against nonbelievers take a listen to the u.n. we all agree it's far from perfect but it delivers real results for every american by advancing u.s. security through genuine burden sharing we should pay for you in programs and activities that advance our interests and our values if other countries want different things to be funded they can pay for it the kind of it pretty much pitted susan rice against opposing views of what the united nations should be of that committee they're mostly house republicans they are very critical of the un i'm joined now by robert naiman policy director at just foreign policy to discuss it with me mr raman thank you so much for joining us so as i mentioned this really

pitted rice against house republicans and just you know just like everything the u.n. works on another thing that was really an issue was it was one issue that lawmakers really chose to focus on and before we get into questions i want to play you a clip from the hearing. if you want to thank the americans historic ally israel to the wolves frustrated and tired of. israel as a punching bag routinely introduces resolutions criticizing condemning israel into israel bias that the un tends to exhibit the un continues to be used to propagate anti israel bias so lawmakers on both sides of the aisle were really very concerned about israel more than any other issue at same during that hearing so do lawmakers really care about reforming the when or if they care more about having a position on israel hard with my question to you. i guess the letter if this is

something that americans you know most americans have no idea this discussion is. but it's being watched closely. israel lobby groups that are using this is an opportunity to. really hit the administration. trying to push them back. in creating an environment in which the administration would be afraid to push israel so that that's what the quarterback is is all about it's free here because most americans are. so if we opportunity for these members of congress which actually most of them don't really care about you know but it's an opportunity to show the flag as it were for their. support for israel. these people you know then like this you're going to love what's going to happen in september when the palestinian authority

because the united nations. requests the else thank you very. well and again it was late and in her opening statements today urged that that that not happen and tell there is not an agreement in the middle east between israel and palestine now house republicans though you said you don't believe that they really care about the u.n. but nonetheless they're trying to cut funding and right it has been arguing against those cuts but to be fair the u.s. does make up twenty two percent of the u.n. budget they are the largest contributor and it is lawmakers have a point the taxpayer should be on the line for that much book first of all the. with the funding yes allocators according to the size of your economy that's why the u.s. shares a large because you know sure the world economy is so gorgeous that's and that's how it's been for years i think that this is less about how taxpayers' money is

being spent after all you know what the government is flushing in afghanistan it's huge i think this is not just stick to be key ministries inward and to be the united nations with to make a threat against you know he of course in the u.s. criticism of israel if you know the states were to withdraw from the united nations in some ways you know used it would improve dramatically why that was why that why do you believe that because. for example you know we saw recently the the u.n. security council was unable to do anything about the issue is really suddenly expansion in the west bank which is the main obstacle to the negotiated settlement that these at this moment the main obstacle to talks at these members of congress those they say that they want. to tell us that he and others brought a resolution the u.n. security council's vetoed by the states which is sort of thing that these numbers

of congress you know in fact i don't want to go even further i mean that's not enough many of them i think that actually funding withheld so they want to go we don't want that but it is the interest in regard to israel i do want to address some of the other issues that that these lawmakers had with the united nations they're very focused on people that don't share the same views as the united states who are part of the united nations i want to play you some of that comment that came out of today and life a lot of us believe the u.s. should not fund united nations in a way that that it. not giving it to an organization that promotes communist china the world's worst human rights abuse or have a veto power over what it does as you know brothers and sisters are illegal in china we know that cuba for example is a state sponsor of terrorism we know they are harboring terrorists united nations is being used as a as a vehicle perhaps to see how global government will function the idea that we're going to take our marbles and go home because we don't like various aspects of the

un and including when it exercises its democratic right to disagree with us is to me a juvenile posture so who is right is that if you get our posture to believe that everybody should agree with you in the united nations or should the united states be very angry that there are countries in the un and do not agree with the us that they do not do everything the way that the united states wants them to but mr conley is the only adult in your clip shown in here you know ross laden attacked the united nations because of the fact that this resolution. was even considered. so you know she's objecting to the idea that other people get to speak even though the united states has the ability to veto everybody everybody in the world can be told by the united states is that that's not that's not enough that's not enough or ok i'm sure you know she's a smart person and she understands pretty well the whole of this world but she's posturing in order to push back the minister's right what to think about pushback

one thing you know united nations within it the u.s. is trying to cast it felt as the reformer you know everyone can kind of agree that the u.n. doesn't operate perfectly and it's flawed and so the united states has been the one to lead that charge however insiders that i say to that cover the u.n. everything all day they get the united states still have strong arms everybody into war tries to into advancing its goals and having a say in every issue so what do you make of the reality here. well of course you know nature is far from perfect institution there are no perfect human it's two sins and you know relations as lot of problems come from the fact that you know there's there's no boss they can sell it or else it's new so things have to be negotiated the united states has a lot of influence because its share of the funding rules in the security council of course it's also true if you don't see it as multiple objectives if you know.

and you know quote unquote reform in the sense of making sure that money's not this then there's only one thing on the menu and one it's doing things for example like trying to get the security council resolution of libya obviously that's a much higher priority you know twisting words if they have to overlook something in order to get if you will somebody of course they're going to do it and nobody in congress really is seriously objecting to that board it takes place at the right as i'm picking and choosing when it comes to what you can now you mention roughly when she is that powerful chair of estimate a house foreign affairs committee she's the new chair and she also has a bill she has legislation she wants to make lengthening voluntary and that she want to bar the u.s. from a theat on the human rights council as well now she is outspoken on other issues she's basically completely in opposition to all of obama's foreign policy goals at least when it comes to china russia israel but i want to take a look at where she came from and her trajectory let's take

a look at this report from r.t. correspondent kalen ford. you know how we can make this an even better to her fans she's a dog a defender of democracy this is really let me hear from you mr berman if i may trigger foods she's a ferocious. underdressed like the new chairman of the house foreign affairs committee the more radical right wingers or. porton positions within the republican party managed to acquire strategic positioning for paulson bush and so often today when it comes to dealing with common threats world leaders are met with an open hand from president obama and it clenched fist from. a cuban exile who came to the us as a child following the cuban revolution in one nine hundred fifty nine. really resonate in one her seat in congress twenty years ago in a campaign centered on freeing terrorist orlando bosh responsible for the bombing

of this cuban airliner that killed seventy three people. but it was at large in florida thanks. for. the now we can imagine what it will be like with them actually setting the agenda within the committee that is setting the legislative agenda in her three months as chairman roslin has wasted no time we must maintain firm ties with our allies and enemies must be clearly identified i hope that this administration can tell who's who for her allies she has expressed unwavering support this is the most desired congresswoman congress person. that exists today she is somebody who has unreservedly supported israel in all of its most violent and. really genocidal acts for those she perceives as enemies like china it's all tough

talk if the president repression continue. news the beijing games will indeed become the genocide olympics critics say roslin and has a double standard on human rights denouncing flows and giving friends a free pass she herself is and i are the dalai lama but there's there's really no consistency if you look at her politics if that were the case then she wouldn't be advocating for the neglect of the palestinian people and the usurpation of them ocracy for people in hunder. she's also taking a tough stance on the united nations i think that it's a place that's made up of bullies and big. after two years of obama's multilateralism the chairman has made it her mission to limit the un's power. this ministry in the street there orders were really.

sure and we were. also on her chopping block the administration's two years of building economic and political partnerships with countries like russia has russia not been providing nuclear technology and assistance to were ran for decades as russia should not provided missile assistance to rand for decades even as the u.s. depends on russia's support for u.n. sanctions against iran republican aides say that unlike her predecessor isn't eager to defer to the white house on matters of foreign policy i would like her obama faces in trying to reset relations with strategic allies like russia and china and ford artsy washington d.c. . so robert i'm curious do you think that roughly in her new position has she undermine u.s. interests abroad at least in opposition to the obama administration's openness and rethought with russia for example wanting to trade with china the shandor might not

. not significantly the united states will continue trading with china or it's just going to continue as a good relations with russia you know it's going to be better implement the just that are you thing are implemented limited i think her influence is limited it's true in every administration in this region has brought autonomy in foreign affairs so that's number one number two a lot of this is post tree on the street and there isn't actually many shooters in them which sits between the administration and. in practice. you know the united states. russia was wanting. nuclear technology during the bush administration which i have it's a great point and really it's ostrich and really quickly robert i'm curious about a double standard in congress because earlier we heard a florida lawmaker in the hearing today criticize cuba as a sponsor of terrorism when criticizing the land but california report showed

brought light and helped free a terrorist responsible for the bombing of a cuban airliner that killed seventy three people is there a double standard in congress well certainly ross slayton you know this is her track record of years her definition of terrorist has been to the she doesn't like to as a reporter when you know when it comes to cuban exiles using terrorism against your government a quarter that's terrorism it's well documented for years all right i want to thank you farai for going back and forth with me on those many interesting issues coming out of congress then dealing with the united nations today that was robert naiman director of jeff's foreign policy. nothing to do for now for more of the stories we covered go to our key dot com slash usa check out our youtube page it's youtube dot com slash our team america and also follow me on twitter at lauren lyster and send me a direct message i want to know what you think of the show and also we want you to make sure to tune into our g. america tomorrow and archie over the weekend also have

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