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i think the rug needed and wanted well. we haven't got the shelf here for the can safely get ready because of the winter freedom. hey guys welcome to shellings hell on the obama shelf we've heard our guest stop to say on the topic now i want to hear our audience is going to use you to video responses or to twitter for following the questions that we've posted on you tube every monday and on thursday to show your responses please let your voice.
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ok it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to the morning hosts fox and friends this trio over a fox news has a very long history of spinning the truth living g.o.p. talking points daily but this week they found something new to complain about and it wasn't the impending government shutdown or the three u.s. military conflicts taking place around the world it was this. and this is you've got to see to believe this we're talking about crayola changing the colors of the
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rainbow instead colin colors of the cultures he clearly said to the crayons. that's right the fox and of friends hosts are actually pissed that crayola has recognized that there is more than one skin tone in the world now before we go any further the image the pa showed was actually markers not crayons maybe somebody should tell them that there's a difference but the fox and friends hosts have a theory they believe the crayola is just pandering to liberal parents who are politically correct they even brought in michelle malkin i conservative blogger and commentator to get her reaction this will be the catchphrase that makes it ok to color stuff in yeah sure i can tell today washable more courage is going on which i know about her and it's just goofy i have to say i'm proud that i survived my childhood without. multicultural marker i was fine with birth seattle and i think really most elementary school kids are flying with pink or blue you know my
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son draws everybody with blue anyway i see that in their. own shell where to begin first of all what is wrong with markers or kranz that actually show the numerous skin tones of people from around the world you know when i was little i did not do with colors that well they didn't look like skin there'd be some people who were red some people who were yellow and it really hampered my artistic skills michelle let's be honest your skin isn't peachy color that's been the only one around for years so i would think he would appreciate this change and i personally say bravo for these multicultural colors but here's the really interesting part of the story what's behind this attack on creole is recognition of diversity by the fox and friends hosts well the markers and the grants have actually been around for years media matters pointed out a story about the multicultural colors was posted on a website on april fools day and well you know just a few days later fox and friends ran with this story so did they fall for a hoax or was a piece of slow news day and they needed something to bitch about either way
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gretchen carlson steve doocy and brian kilmeade are all tools for wasting viewers' times with this stupid story. now more than one hundred senators and congressmen have signed on to a letter written by sen orrin hatch demanding that attorney general eric holder bring more prosecutions for violations of federal obscenity laws to hatch in his colleagues we now know more about excuse me we know more now than ever about how the legal adult of cent of the important contributes to violence against women are the children and sex trafficking and of this material harms individuals families and communities and the problems are only getting worse but do we really know these things and should this really be a priority for congress right now joining me to discuss it is chris clark logan with internet safety one hundred one dot org and matt welch over there and chief of reason magazine thank you both for joining me tonight for starters can somebody explain to me exactly what. obscenity is when it comes to pornography where you draw that line about a porn connoisseur at all there's
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a big distinction between the harmful to minors content that content which actually is legal for you or me to you know to create to possess to distribute legal for any adult to distribute that which is harmful to minors to children in content which actually is period in nature which actually is hardcore sexual content which has no artistic literary or scientific value and that type of content actually legally defined as obscenity and therefore not protected by the first amendment so i guess because it was true you know i'm going to do kind of subjective right what could i be offended by what you might be turned on living conditions of potter stewart i know it when i see it but you've all the community standards over the years and legal interpretations that don't actually have a hard and fast rule you can't in fact because there's just. as you make it a statutory thing you come up against the first amendment so instead there is for consensual adult pornography an evolving and completely non statutory standard but
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what we have seen is that the u.s. department of justice has failed time and time again to act. prosecutor of sanity in recent years but when they have actually gone and gone up against prosecuting obscenity then we have seen that b.s. legal measures are protected by the u.s. supreme court because we do find it the majority of the content that is available today involves things like women in gauging and sexual acts while ingesting vomits while rolling around in pvc a lot of hard core group sex these geology etc which doesn't necessarily fall under our protected free speech and there are legal protections and measure we just hope that apartment justice will actually pursue enforcement of those laws ok so obviously there is a gray area as to what you consider free speech what you consider a scene or not but then tell me you know according to senator hatch we very clearly now know the effects that this type of pornography has on communities has on children on sex trafficking on women what evidence is there for that well we have
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seen you know of course that there is an increase the amount of brothel owners individuals who are pimps are actually using hardcore pornography to groom and also to legitimize violence against women to normalize that type of content within their shops we all seem like legal brothels in las vegas i'm sorry about i never see them go overseas and consumption of individuals who are also prosecuting or who actually are getting children for sexual abuse or in possession of hardcore pornography to testify to the fact that their use of hardcore pornography led them in a downward spiral what. is right because obviously we're talking about our own laws here at home even in the united states that we're seeing that a lot of individuals who are actually targeting children sexually abusing children section or in possession of hardcore pornography the violence that's prevalent in hardcore pornography some of the deviant sexual behavior is becoming normalized that's contributing to violence against women even in individuals who are actually perpetrating sex abuse sexual victimization against even partners are
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often. of infrequent users of hard core pornography i want you to get in here too because there's a reason why that answer was vague and rambling since one thousand nine hundred three when the internet came around and pornography is everywhere we've all seen it and probably participated in it to some degree at least there's some you know going on behind you we've all imagine that since that time crime is down everywhere in america crime against minors is down sexual crime against minors is down rape is down all these numbers are growing like this as poor is going like this what we need to do is to whip up some kind of moral panic so that we can say oh this is a bigger link this to children it's going to be terrible that's why we're quoting the brothel statistics in zero two nine we look at the fact that all these statistics are going down and you talk loudly sex crimes against children down fifty three percent abortion is drive teen pregnancy is drop divorce rate is drug
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domestic violence. and i even see it as all the war rocked out into towards in front of me but right in that study actually ended two thousand and four in two thousand and three actually it's like an increase in sexual about domestic violence in and a lot of the cars have been associated with in our progress we also look at children and they're acting out sexually the younger generation that has been the generation that has the predominate impact they're the ones who are ingesting a lot of this content you see an increase in teen on teen sexual violence you also see an increase by twenty percent spike actually introducing her acting out sexually against other children because of their access to hardcore pornography which is a very violent deviant and depicts a lot of content which isn't part of a normal healthy sexual relationship is what's happening because of people like orrin hatch seventeen year olds nineteen year olds are being prosecuted for pernod a few for distribution of pornography because they're sending each other text of their hoops they're being rung up and said i know you had sexting is apparently
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eluding all of the protecting the children this is how mad we've gotten with this moral panic over over and. being you know and this is not about a moral panic this is actually just about enforcing the u.s. law and this is we've had three years but is it fair to necessarily make that connection that just because more people out there watching who aren't just because good point might be getting a little more fetishizing more hardcore that these people necessarily want to act that out in a violent matter when you're saying that perhaps some of these people that do become violent how can you be fans of you could say they're going to be crazy and beat someone up anyway well i'm just curious as to how you can make this direct correlation we're running out of time so just tell me why this is something that congress needs to be worried about right now considering everything else is going to this is the u.s. law we've seen it time and time again the u.s. supreme court has actually upheld our federal obscenity laws and it is within the realm of the responsibility of the department of justice to enforce existing obscenity laws because we have seen there are numerous studies to show this that has an association of correlation with increases and child sexual abuse
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victimization teen violence and also violence against women and so we think it's an important thing but it is to prosecute and of course any last words it's an important reminder of why the government shutdown would be such a bad thing when we're in the business of government is to deprive people of liberty for consensual acts that's a disgrace ok so if the government doesn't teach shutdown and good night tonight you can watch all the hardcore scary porn that you want you guys thank you so much for joining us tonight thank you now it's been a little bit of a while since i've done one of my unplugged statements on this show but i couldn't think of a better day to bring it back the day that our government has been put on the brink of a shutdown not over money in a general concern for how much our government is spending but over abortion and quite frankly over a false concern about abortion the hyde amendment already forgiven spreadable funding to go towards abortion something the republicans are conveniently trying to ignore instead of spreading lies were a few people up into
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a frenzy telling them that their tax dollars are going towards it so let me give you a little bit of truth land pair. it is an organization is an organization that is so incredibly important to women's health specifically lower income women who couldn't have access to cancer screenings or s.t.d. testing our birth control because they can't afford health insurance so by due funding planned parenthood you're not saving lives quite the opposite you're putting more lives into jeopardy so to threaten a government shutdown based on lies that's just the most ludicrous the most disgusting the most absolutely insane thing that i can imagine but of course you know the funding planned parenthood only scratches the surface when it comes to the war the g.o.p. is waging on women's reproductive rights we told you how to grasp and kansas have passed new laws prohibiting a female from having an abortion after twenty weeks of pregnancy all based on a statistic that claims of the fetus can feel pain by this point in time but if you look at the science behind the statistic it's highly debated amongst analysts all
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across the country and in indiana where they passed a similar bill we told you how one state g.o.p. representative wanted to add an amendment to the measure to ban abortions based on rape or incest for fear that a woman would lie just to get an abortion and whoever believes that is sick they also want help professionals to tell the woman that an abortion could cause breast cancer again a deed bunked health care said to stick another lie and arizona just signed a law banning abortions based on race or gender even though there haven't been any reports of that happening and it's a non issue so that means the government really should be spending taxpayer dollars on real problems it's a let's also shine a light on idaho they're just the latest state to wage a war against the woman's uterus and yes i said it uterus the new bad word according to the g.o.p. idaho state houses created an anti-abortion law where they want to protect all fetuses even those conceived by rape or incest because get this it's not to be this
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is fault oh but rape is the woman's fault are you people craig. easy idaho republican state representative brant crane made this statement to his fellow legislators he said the hand of the almighty was at work his ways are higher than our ways and he has the ability to take difficult tragic horrific circumstances and then turn them into wonderful examples so if a woman gets raped in you want to tell her that god wanted it that way one hundred three the generalize all instances of difficult tragic and horrific circumstances as an opportunity to become wonderful examples is unjustified to say the least but you know what if you want to play that game but i did say that the reason that we have modern science modern medicine things like birth control and abortion is because god gave us brains i because god wanted us to develop then to look at the horrors that religion has pressed upon people and it turned them into wonderful examples of how to welcome progress and logic and to accept them and be free from
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the constraints of close minded zealots like you and that's the hand of the almighty you're just too scared to see it. i must say that does sound rather convincing doesn't it now still to come tonight we have our friday fireside chat and it's time for happy hour archie producer jenny churchill and jay brewer founder of realist idealist labs will join me for a little from. getting some closure see a story and it seems so for late sleep you think you understand it and then he did something else here so you saw the part of it and realized everything is ok if you don't think i'm trying hard luck is a big picture. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right here in the.
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i think rock even on the well. we never got the shows never keep you safe get ready because the air freedom. hi guys welcome to shellings tell me alone a show we've heard our guests have to say on the topic now i want to hear audience just you seem to video response hard to twitter for part of the question that we've host on you tube every monday and on thursday for the show your response is really your voice because.
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to tonight's by you side with your moves. when obama came into office he signed an order to and torture for what the bush administration like to label as and hands to interrogation techniques he also signed an order to close the cia's black sites those secret prisons of the agency held in a number of countries where they house suspected terrorists and did whatever they wanted with them because it was all the secret and out of the public's eyes but you
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know that just because you saw those orders doesn't mean that we aren't still detaining people in afghanistan longer merit based was a huge prison they can house up to twenty six hundred detainees and despite the pentagon's denials for years we've been hearing from human rights groups from former detainees but that's not all that there are more out there and today the a.p. released a harrowing report detailing what that more is and this time it was an anonymous government official that laid it all out and admitted those dirty deeds there are according to this report by him dozier roughly twenty secret temporary prison sites in afghanistan there run by the joint special operations command jaison that's the military's elite counterterrorism unit and unlike previous statements from the pentagon that a detainee could only be held at a temporary site for maybe fourteen days turns out they could be held there for as long as nine league. it's and while they might not be getting water boarded they're subject to isolation to sleep deprivation to humiliation like being forced to strip
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nude and it sounds a lot like what they're doing to grab the manning right now on u.s. soil doesn't it and by international standards those things are still considered torture by the standards of obama's executive order are interrogations that's been banned and the dreamland of winning hearts and minds that's a nightmare so while obama signed this order closing cia black sites and batting torture it turns out that now it's just the military is running these secret prisons and even though they may have stopped waterboarding they're still torturing people so i'm not really sure what the point of all the fanfare was that changing the agency that conducts these brutal acts doesn't change the fact that the u.s. is still inducting them so i guess that pans out a lot like the last two years where we realize that changing the president from bush to obama hasn't changed the majority of our policies least of all when it comes to the war on terror and you remember when obama stopped calling it the war
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on terror to you as if that made all the difference in the world it's a sham it's a cool it's this seat full joke and shame on me for ever believing it. it's friday finally i'm going to waiting for all week long as though it's time for a happy hour tonight and since all week long we've been forced to talk about the looming government shutdown and since republicans the jerks that wanted to shut down over abortion and yada yada i thought we can make fun of some younger republicans who aren't yet in office or hopefully it never will be let's listen to the young cons the latest video. tax. cuts are.
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going. to. be the first number because your summer. i mean i'm almost speechless because it sucks so bad but then i could just talk about how much it sucks but like you do it and i mean it's interesting. i mean for me the funniest part was on the black site where they were like releasing their new video and the kids or the college kids out there can relate to this because we really we mentioned things from our childhood like poopy money and finding. really old because i consider those things like way younger than me it was weird but on the clip we can show they were there mentioning donkey kong. that works poking on and we still like you know donkey poking on and finding. time to like gangster rap it just doesn't work you know the fact that you all made me watch this video today reminded me of something i've been meaning to do for
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a long time which is a p.s.a. to all of america and i'd like to deliver that which is please young white suburban suburban i met of this great country of ours please quit rapping on video just stop whatever whatever idea you have in your mind about how good you're going to look if you're wrong it's just you know good stuff please stop my favorite. my favorite part was we were talking about this in the green room as chris clark was leaving and she said that when she was younger she also thought that she was going to be a rapper so she had been in government now maybe she will be there heard if you are going to rap just don't put it on video just don't put it where we are so what i'm getting at so we can make fun of what i was pushed to try to push me next time ok let's move on to something that i guess is a little bit more serious because it's not just people talking on video these are people that actually are have horrible thoughts in their mind forty six percent of mississippi republicans think the interracial marriage should be illegal that's
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according to public policy polling. i have we gone back hundreds of years in this world and i don't know a whole lot about mississippi i've never been there if you guys ever been there before i've been there i grew up pretty close to the border i grew up in a small town in columbia tennessee is the mule couple of the world so i'm actually highly dubious of the study if you look at the details of the study was that about four hundred people in a rural area i have to say growing up in a small rural southern town the idea that half those people would think first well they don't even want government involved their lives at all much less regulating their marriages yeah actually i had a similar thought when i looked at it i immediately was like something seems off here so i did a little digging into it and i have to say i think there's something seriously fishy about this study considering if you look at previous studies in the same area tennessee kentucky alabama and mississippi all together the rate of thought that way was only thirty six percent and that was ten years ago and we like to think that we're progressing in the opposite direction so that desire to highlight were present in the opposite direction to look at when you go or treating our muslim
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americans let's look at the boxes reacting to different skin tone color kranz not a really big issue comes when you break down the survey further and look at the cross charts and when you look at the cross charts conservatives in mississippi who consider themselves liberal so on the liberal side of the conservative scale fifty five percent said that they want to engage in a racial marriage to be illegal if you go slightly liberal seventy something percent said it there's clearly something off there because that just doesn't make any sense but now the fact that anybody says that at all is going to be right i mean it should be zero percent who is going to we'd still be saying this is a ridiculous number right the fact that i know you wonder what it means to be liberal in this is really a straw a little different than what i did your idea going to be just as running out of time i think it's so fun these days if you want to get a job you're going to get a lot of really odd questions thrown your way because they want to judge your sense of humor your critical thinking skills of course so i have
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a good one for you. whoever wants to answer first you tell me if you were shrunk to the size of a pencil and put a blender how would you get out. a question qualifying question if you are you know i want asking the question are you the size of an unsharpened pencil because you are the size of an unsharpened pencil to me it seems like you should be able to climb out of the blender i'm not the one that made another one of the i'll never be able to put in the bed and i would just wait patiently till it put it in a banana and climb up a banana or or make imprinted i'm sure the thing to go for you don't have handy or not as a side leg and so yeah i was right. i think this is great thought there's not a yes or no result they're going to scream if you're turned into them sometimes when you're inside the pencil like you want to play then you know jump that's what this is because of every every job interview should include questions like this i really think would be this what is the one i think that's hilarious and the easiest how else could you market ping pong balls if people calling itself became obsolete
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are you kidding me if you not see what college kids do with it if you know if you've ever seen beer pong i mean how do you know where the sensors are on your last night but i couldn't find oh yeah my favorite was actually how many balloons would it take to fill this room and at my answer would be the exact amount for an office party i don't know i could you know someone in a job interview what you hope god will tell you when you reach the pearly gates and there is no one to deep fry me what if they say that i really won't ever reach those pearly gates actually write a letter just a bit earlier and say yes i'm very sorry but now i've got a funny one but i remember i was going to try to make everybody be religious they want to work with you that's just me and i maybe i got to revalue and then you're like going into the whole figuring out what religion people are and you're really not supposed to ask ok what's your favorite question reservoir political person i want to know what's your favorite curse word and why all of that if i wasn't on t.v. right now but i tell you what unfortunately i have a few restrictions ok explain quantum electrodynamics in two minutes but you. well
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it's very small and it's logical and it's moving also dynamic also dynamic so there's that i think that pretty much sums up the entire concept or you could say that maybe that's going to be the name of the next gen james bond movie but it sounds about right for maybe the rock and the rocky but what i think i said. thank you very much for joining me on this but i think for tonight's show thanks for tuning in to make sure you come back on monday investigations here in the u.s. may be overshadowing the events in libya but that doesn't change the fact that the u.s. is still participating in a war so bring you the latest details and meantime don't forget to become a fan of the a lot of show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's show or any other night you can always catch it all you tube dot com in the lower show or you push the interviews as well as the show in its entirety next is the news with the latest headlines from the u.s. and.
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rachel martin here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. trying to corporations around the day.
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