at seven thirty pm moscow time these are the top stories on a common grief commemoration ceremonies take place in western russia a year after the plane crash that killed president told the president the polish president i should say and many of the country's political elite. a group of african leaders are headed to libya to try and ease the conflict between the government and rebels meanwhile nato draws ever more fire over blunders and its military operation there. and top financial minds gather in my comic american town

to discuss what went wrong with the world's economy and where it needs to go to avoid a repeat placing the dollar as a reserve currency and the increased role of emerging markets are among the main topics. up next more on the first anniversary of the plane crash near smolensk in our spotlight so al gore know about his gaffes look at how the tragedy affected relations between russia and poland. hello again it wasn't just like the interview show a party. today where commemorating the anniversary of the tragic plane crash at the airfield near the russian city of smolensk but the occasion headed by polish president lech kaczynski was on their way to russia to take part in a morning ceremony for thousands of polish victims of the nine hundred forty that

in mass but the plane crashed just short of a runway at a russian. tragedy shocked people on both sides of the border both in poland and russia but today a year after the crash we're looking at how the tragedy has affected relations between the two countries here in our moscow studio will have the executive secretary of the russian polish group on difficult issues. and from war so we're joined by the chairman of the polish same foreign affairs committee andre college. thousands of polish officers were executed by stalin secret police in russia seventy years ago after blaming the nazi regime for the crime forty years later the use of sark knowledge to the soviet secret police was responsible for the deaths for all these years the murders poisoned relations between moscow and warsaw

however last april the prime ministers of russia and poland went to cotton to commemorate the victims of the massacre and turned the page in the bilateral relations. just days later the polish president lech kaczynski died in a plane crash on his way to a cartoon commemoration ceremony the international aviation commission investigated and blamed the polish pilots responsible for the accident but also says the results are incomplete saying oscar was covering up mistakes by rush. air traffic control would pull some produce its own report on the tragedy. hello. hello hello upon her and jay thank you to good afternoon thank you for joining us thank you for joining us and well i'd like to ask. me if you if you let me the first question i want to i would ask the plan that. shadow she's our guest here was late. and how did the polish public

opinion towards russians how did it change over this past year did you did you monitor the results of the public opinion polls. yes of course it's one of the visible first of all it's a longer period than one year only because i think the crucial and very important. they all the time was the visit of prime minister putin. so it was the first of september. of the second world war and during this event. put in prime minister putin said a very important was that we have to name evil as evil and we cannot accept evil that's a hole. so these are very useful fundaments of. good

we'll. just a good sign for friendly corporation. praying karsh i mean presidential. plane crash last year. was a project moment but during this tragedy i remember. the behavior ordinary people and also. so your authorities and russian authorities were. very active it was human reaction and this human reactions it was very big. for this friendly corporation friendly relations and this fundament of through which was build before so i think it was a very natural expectation of this good emotions between us during the tragedy i think we have heard

a lot during this year from problems including accusations lots of accusations you sure did monitor the russian public opinion so what was the tendency in russia how did the russians according to the polls react today to the whole situation after the tragedy i absolutely agree with mr chairman he said the russians rick that nature really and in a very human. way and there was no any other way to react and i like this approach mr chairman started not would be pretty but at least with the first of september. solid and denying this meeting to test the plot i'm in poland because our approach went to each other approach this appeasement if you like between russia and poland it started. nash all there then this crazy catastrophe in smolensk and we created quite a lot before to build this mutual confidence in all our russian and polish elites

and with those parts of the society of those who feel. a style towards each other and that was right up to the moment of the. accident we were moved somehow to peace be moved. with a better understanding of each other and that is why probably because of the special reaction it was so nature will so prompt so if and then we managed to convert the privileges to better relations. in some olinsky poland lost not only its head of state but a significant part of with political and military elete how how we were the consequences for the political stability in the country has poland recovered yet from this blow. first of all the stagg of the authorities are

active this is the constitution the constitution says what the during such a situation it was but of course it was a very. difficult very tough moment for all of us we lost our friends but also realize the key persons key decision makers. i think that the most important thing for the. relations between the states and relations between the politicians and the relations between the society of the ordinary people is not the politicized the tragedy. you speak about not politicizing the tragedy but i know that pretty soon in may we're expecting the publication of the final conclusions by the polish side do you have any idea what should we expect from this paper will it be politics at all or will be peer like a junior talk but the there are two things and i would like to finish the first

sentence that first of all i'm not so naive. to expect not using cause so in internal politics the tragedy as emotions and you have also the same situation in. russia i remember the press conference so grains organized boy. from the old person with their white. and old k.g.b. officer who said why mr putin is there this is not our. interest to be there because. because of his point of view we have also politicians who are against this but relations or against. gnocchi using emotions is better emotions in politics this is merging and i would like to.

see those people or some merging of this. situation if you are talking about. the marx report or the other things. i would say allowed in our society we expect i think it also our common interests and common expectation are the final is a. asian of the process of having the final opinion what was the case but it should be explained in complete the document and unfortunately the first attempt of the makes was. an complete that was not complete this is our opinion and this is the expectation we have to have. the process. given in transparent but also complete the work after we hear how you have a comment do you agree with an opinion you accepted model or say sure this approach

because it's really a reasonable approach and thank you. mr chairman. all these interstate have ation committee report or as we call it here in russia and pulled knox. report really it was a report of the inclination the student chosen by boards of the parties involved. but then. somehow or more swallowed by the respective and view of investigation made by. pots russia and poland separately are all polish police so they produce a painted in investigation provided by jim prosecutor office here in russia and i guess in my in maybe can really fine a life of analysts all these investigations in a good move will move to quite a compromise because in general everything is clear. because like

happens it's where its details will be don't need to play with details on the political field. with the opinion that generally the facts are well known but also. object to. objectivity and should be done the most important thing but generally of course we know the facts. but this ca year since national relation committee met which i term just quoted released a report in january twelfth highly pilot error as the main cause of the crash which occurred when the plane hit trees well attempting to land in fake fog is polish opinion ready in principle to accept the truth if it will contain accusations against russia if there were it should not contain accusations in fresh air and in this case the polish public opinion will be more ready to accept the

truth what what's your feeling. first of all we had to run today the press conference so that our persecutor. public opinion was in the fore on the and i would say all those politicians who are talking all they gave the question marks concerning the. plane crash. with russian when you being on. the not because of the process of explanations so we have the polish investigation the politician vista geisha and we have to give us final explanation what was done before the flight during the flight and also how it was sort of the nicest bar first of all we have to exclude we have to.

not listen to the people who are talking about that that yourself. some kind of you know stupid explanations with. also political background. you have to rush and probably completely and have to listen to our fish on the voice and our financial institutions and then there's a snide remark to this question that's. chairman of the foreign affairs committee of the polish parliament speaking to us live from our from warsaw and here in the studio we have our. executive secretary of the russian polish group on difficult issues spotlight will be back shortly after we take a break so stay with them though.

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welcome back to spotlight i'm al green alvin just a reminder that my guests on the show today are out of my league in he's here in the studio with me he is the executive secretary of the russian polish group on difficult issues and angie holan skee the chairman of the foreign affairs committee of the polish parliament he is joining us live and not being able to cover from us the beautiful picture of spring in warsaw that we see on the very ground hello again welcome back to the show and congressional races with the wonderful world of unlearnable and well gentlemen but in. general first of all i would love to remind our viewers that that cat cat in the place where the tragedy last year

a clear here and there for decades this town has been a stumbling block in relations between russia and poland but the situation has begun to change spotlights you know the neither one has more than that. nineteen forty cart and massacre one in this to me to twenty thousand officers were murdered on stalin's orders is one of the most need to rip and souls and ruination between russia and poland the us inside denied it of a committed a crime blaming it all on the nazis it was me. who admitted the truth twenty years ago but that wasn't enough to reconcile the two countries they've been divided on no legal description of the killings with one insisting and russia refusing to call it genocide. in recent years things have gotten better here ago the prime ministers

of russia and poland all of the victims of khartoum together for the first time they've rounded up the story was believed to be a serious step towards improving relations three days later the world was shocked to have cartoon associated with one more tragedy the plane carrying the president and his entourage question its way to ceremony for the victims of khartoum the crash who have trivandrum nations for their part wouldn't have been not present the fact. to untag found themselves side by side one in the victims and later conduct in the joint investigation treating this like a month after the crash russia handed documents on carter massacre to pull on with their lives is it towards december was seen as an ice breaking trip the russian president promised russia would continue to cooperate with poland in revealing the

whole truth about the trade you can dance of seventy years ago. will we we saw a couple of pictures from our from history of the second world war and a couple of facts from the reason who reached between the two countries well i would like to ask you both at this point what are we talking about we are we talking about the official relations between the officials in poland and in russia or we're talking about the attitude of the two nations because both sides they suspect pressure from the authorities russian suspects pressure from the thirty's the pearl suspect polak will pressure from the kremlin on the situation but is it wise to identify the guilty authorities even if they are found guilty with the people with the nations and should this effect and is it affecting the attitude

toward the two nations well let's start with you let me somalia i'm quite optimistic and say that we will really overcome this problem of. course linked with scrapie because frost that was a person provided worse. by the roles of the polish side explaining and. the it will scream committed by and given here but until a stylus order. then we need a guest a person. society and some parts of the russian lead that it was true what gorbachev said to the polish a sort of this in very late eighty's and then this for example the task of russian polish and difficult issues was to persuade again russian society and to say or to find a proper war so the polish society saying stop we understand

a little step needed by the previous regime and stop blaming us because we're all really cut off from the pretty much every view but if russia has already overcome its superiority complex this that mean that the poles have overcome their inferiority complex let's just let's just say i guess europe's. first off of course i think that we have a completely new artemus for today but of course you asked about the expectation the expectation is very easy to explain this is true only on this fundamental we can build the future and if you are talking about cutting you we are talking about the officers the officers who. know that thing this for a forest and of course it's. russian decision but do expect i think very easy playing i think very humbling taishan the explanation.

that it was murder that it was. very thread digital event done in this forest boy and by. telling. us this is the situation was known in poland but of course you have to remember that during our. during decades we had the not this. tragedy also explained the now working story called the bookstore thank you for the all the people all the prophets. the altos of black and white. room shapes the group of difficulties because now we can build the good relations waste

on this through which was described by historical. by by by his story. of this book we can also be both a new institution and we are after acceptation of the view that we can establish them to be ready to establish the center of by a lock on both sides in moscow and was so i think it will be very important in this institution which you say to continue to do so work of the group of difficult issues which was done before and thank you for for the seaforth and for this work and this is what this was a very very important mr and you know well and you have just mentioned this work of the group and difficulties how how is the work of the joint commission on a street going on is it easy to found to find common language to find understanding to to to to to stand common ground with the poles one first that she questions as

cutting through the escort of the group itself it was really very easy because it was before the story specialists on campaign propulsion fisa russian of fears and it was known they would use it within the group because it was willfully it was what. happened there in ninety four for example but we didn't look only on. threats and we can probably hold great job. story issues but our task was rubbish if you like semi political sea or semi diplomatic was a diplomatic how to persuade how to green how to move it from political agenda it was. historians which it suggests have to do with persuaded leadership to participate from both sides dissipate for example gently plotting to produce

a p b jointly. together on the ceremony in crafting the joint russian big three day in moscow that is to say we found out in kabul history the links us together and not simply bites but was. the task one of the political things is is when member here president come out as he visited the rats last year i think also that the visit april eleventh cutting. president to mean to me and be their friend mr president komorowski it will be a next step on the way to this common celebration of the. common prejudice common with historical events to the new future which is much more important of course but as i said before we have to. also educate

people of how it was and why and we have to a little bit understand also that this evil plan can never. be a threat again. for a long time the relations between russia and poland have been poor because of the cat massacre issue it has influence through lesions negatively all. this equipment these agreements between the two countries besides this catherine issue because there is an opinion that once we overcome captain everything's everything will be sunny and wonderful in our relations is a true. no i think i'm looking for a sense of course because we have economic ties and that's very small. we have implemented a law we should be more similar. in common. i mean common in europe. i think that you should be closer to europe but

something the. couple think of it because of normal life style relations but normal relations also come in i would see so they can think problems but they also can be decisions because. they can peace prospects for the future thank you thank you very much have a sam and thank you very much just to remind that my guests on the show today were added to the executive secretary of the russian polish group on difficult issues and. the chairman of the foreign affairs committee at the polish parliament the same and the third front from all of us here if you want to add yourself spotlight you can always drop me a line. with more firsthand comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay and r.t. and take a.