tv [untitled] April 10, 2011 5:30pm-6:00pm EDT
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it was jews in central moscow this is r t and these are the top stories from poland and russia old memorial services to mark the years since the plane crash that killed the polish president lech kaczynski and ninety five others. nato faces questions over the effectiveness of its u.n. back no fly zone in libya after a pause for two rebel helicopters was shot down by gadhafi forces. to finish priest is charged with inciting racial hatred after an interview with r.t. in which he spoke out against russia's most wanted terrorist. next to investigate
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puter for her or a u.s. air force character off of russia's. code affairs capriles. many of you spirits n.d.s. swedish. regarding visits to. face yes we have quite a quarter we go. just about every one day. either tonight what you get from puerto rico to watch the flights or story. you will be required to pay eighty four dollars and i personally for the watching. whatever addicted as you are her are cowards or area and we ought. to be able to see the care for which they are committing. you know you'll see or some other agenda
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and you'll be able to photograph it all right this is very mission i think you very much if i saw it carry more prosser question to me hoffa yes there. i think when i leave here guantanamo bay one most interesting experiences that i've had is actually having the opportunity to ask or the media around it's interesting talking to people from all around the world from korea from sweden from the middle east from north america mali around the world has had the opportunity to speak with different people and hear this hear how they feel about it cheney's here how they feel about politics it's a it's a huge it's an interesting experience and i feel like this is richard moss and his job is to show us that everything is ok here. we have come here because we want to know what is really going on at guantanamo filling isn't allowed inside the
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prison camp so we were thinking of shooting with a hidden camera. unfortunately that's just not going to happen we know there's a swedish guy held inside here his name is mark. will be released later on when he returns to sweden to give only one press conference if you say you spent five months in afghanistan where did you see this family how did you finance all these trips six trips in two years where were you substandard eleventh two thousand and one the support of bin laden and al qaeda did you meet al qaeda fighters did you carry arms do you think of bin laden. and after that he won't talk to us he refuses to talk to anyone who has anything to do with the media. but to tell his story we have to go back in time to
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long before the press conference with mattie was still held at guantanamo. and when there was only one official version as you can hear it on the radio station and voice of america and al qaeda detainees are being scrutinized standard interrogated at the u.s. naval base at guantanamo bay cuba only a select few american servicemen and u.s. officials have direct contact with the prisoners. u.s. officials insist that detainees are not tortured or subject to any cruel treatment during interrogation sessions in fact some interrogators go out of their way to make the captors feel comfortable hoping to coax information from them in an easy going fashion. exactly right here the story could have ended if it wasn't for this man we saw in a public square in stockholm he's martis father and he had
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a feeling that things were not good at guantanamo and want to see you for one eight forty two forty five degrees of heat locked up and chained and the day and night totally isolated not allowed to speak to see or hear but mountings father didn't know that it was the other way around it was matter together with most of the other prisoners that had in fact decided to stop talking. rumor now was that it wasn't forty degrees one hundred guntown m o anymore the the army had started exposing prisoners to freezing temperatures to get them to talk what i would do is urge him as a father to reach out to communicate with his son via a letter which we will transport and ask his son to just cooperate come clean this will help him it turned in his future pierre richard prosper the man with
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a good advice and puppy dog eyes. is an expert of international law and is signed by the president to visit the countries that have citizens being held at guantanamo. here he was in sweden to persuade mentees father to convince his son to start to talk again all that for work during the geneva conventions but he and his conduct is not the benefits of privileges to be a prisoner of war don't think about them in chains day and night so we have three. whose father. still. you need to keep in mind that the people in u.s. custody are not there because they stalled. or robbed
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a bank. that's not why they're there they are not common criminals. they're enemy combatants and terrorists who are be detained for acts of war against our country and that is why different rules after. disclosing go and the head of the international red cross for example people break spirits and human rights issues say can see it clearly what you're doing is against a kind of human rights conventions there was a fundamental problem the only thing i know for certain is that these are bad people the united states at one point in time signed the geneva convention there it's stated that prisoners of war need only to answer four questions name rank and nationality and i.d. number. four simple questions won't get you very far when you need answers to hundreds of questions a prison camp full of prisoners of war you only need to answer for questions is
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a useless prison camp. but there were no other rules. and leaders from countries who had citizens at guantanamo were worried prime minister. the first matter he brought up. was the swedish prisoner he was very forthright very frank and very concerned. the situation seemed to be out of control. taking a day for. something to. simply. to really give a shit. what nobody knew was the president had written a letter. a letter that only the president's inner circle world where of. in the letter he wrote that there was a new paradigm in the world and the rules were no longer defined by the u.s.
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but by terrorists this new world order got him thinking and after extensive discussions he came to the simple conclusion of the geneva convention. could not be applied to terrorists. and for that reason he came up with a new word for the prisoners at guantanamo unlawful. no one had heard this word before. no one knew what the consequences would come to. stand. now. or good mo as the army has nicknamed it we still haven't seen he's still being held in here. most of the time we're on this bus touring all the recreational activities
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of a little to the soldiers stationed here. when the operation first started out here it was something that was new and just like with everything you want to improve the u.s. military it's a lot of emphasis on tried and trying to prove the living standards for its troops to keep morale. bays. the subway here slowly we're improving the condition of the soldiers and this is just right but we haven't come here to take part in the soldiers' delight over the variety of fast food and we want to know what's really going on here. here we
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are at the gates to camp delta where the prisoners are kept. the person in front is sergeant gary johnson the man behind the scenes who has the authority over our guys as the second man is colonel mcqueen responsible for security. at this. moment as much as you can. are leaving how do you. we are americans and being american soldiers we come up with a way of life for democracy that provides to their rights to people to be treated humanely fair for how do you do how do you do that because i'm a military profession as military professional i've been given a mission and that mission says that i will safely secured the detainees within camp delta and that i will provide a humane treatment people get i didn't. question. the
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family for example the family of the swedish detainees you know they don't know why he's here they thought that he went to study they have no information they don't they haven't been able to see him for a year what would you tell them if you met them what would you say to them. i would tell them from the detention standpoint. each and every detainee here is being treated humanely. we. still trying to convince him to take this opportunity to tell us what had happened but something always came up making it difficult for us to meet. but now he has promised to help us to get in touch with other prisoners released from guantanamo. this is jamal from manchester who was with nothing in guantanamo. and there's still
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hasn't decided if he wants to talk. you reach out. you know i don't even remember the first meeting i just remember. speaking. because what they would do the americans will put you next to each different people to see if you know a person from before author opposite speaks english they put it next opposite to see you know is there any connection with these guys from you know maybe the mark monitor from before dizzy part of it. oh yeah eleven people constantly moved around what are you what got to you earth would you call. or i would say that. i once had a i would want to let them know. well refused. if you for me the most crucial thing here is to be. the way you carry my bag.
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it seems hard to talk about what happens to them in guantanamo and specially for me . maybe because he's devoted two years to keeping silent. i was in the war nor tortured physically. my head complicated with americans told them all they wanted to know. for about six months but it was too much so i stopped talking with them for two years. they started using the methods you heard about. me i've been in the interrogation room i was kept in there for twelve fourteen hours. and they put on air conditioning and about degrees below zero.
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still nice to be talking to the gods. and this cause loss in review and the next phase being the pump someone who's next to you and this guy suffering so yeah i did the same thing myself look at it. my name is sergeant dangerous land. enough for thirty eight military police company from early kentucky. no we didn't just go into it it's a good system. like this.
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i'm making this case a lot in frost and from toledo ohio. and indiscretions from my girl friends and i think that. you know the swedish guy he's there he's. my personally actually i can tell you that you know we don't comment on specifically cheney or specific national so that question to him he would be against. the. this is the only thing you go through these days i just don't get my job there is not
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a finished third of one of them has done there. so much. one time i'm owed don't talk and neither do the prisoners. maybe it has something to do with this man. his name is general miller and he's the commanding officer at guantanamo has agreed to a short interview he is in an unusually good mood. here calling talos mission to detain enemy combatants and then to gain intelligence from there to be able to win the global war on terrorism and so we are detaining the combatants in a humane manner in maine matter. that is appropriate today in accordance as much as we can with the geneva convention. we do we work very hard to ensure that the detainees are maintained in detail in this matter. but what's
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what's wrong with. work and. when we were doing this interview with miller we were not aware of how important he was to the story because no other single person has had as much influence over how the prisoners at guantanamo are treated. but what we do know is that miller hasn't always been in charge of the base. before we left we found a short article about general rick baucus who was in command before miller. because it was fired under very weird circumstances the only ones who seemed willing to speculate why is military corruption an organization consisting of ex military personnel who investigate corruption within the army ok i can say to you as we're on the telephone all i can say to you is we haven't that worked out
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sources that we call see. potential in what. i can't say on the telephone. back there is a one star general brigadier general. we ran into trouble with a two star general who is in charge of the interrogation and i think it's been they complained about policy dealing with those prisoners who would come and sit down in front of a cage and then she speaks of the things he's saying is that within the cages and then the soldiers the american soldiers would simply need to see the big general come down and sit down on the ground from the. back his gun fired because he was too nice to the prisoners. and was opposed to a secret list of unconventional questioning methods now word goldring out. is that. some of the interrogations may i don't have to prove.
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violation. on rights or what we were not sure where you hear when general who's was here no we came just after he had a you know why. there. i think there is a. nothing that i would want to repeat because i don't know if it is true. and as far as the history of general back is. all we know as far as he was he everyone here is on a tour. six months and he finishes six months already more home. backus is old press secretary and southern command. balls all first of all you can ask and i don't know how to get budget if you don't longer in the military he retired or even yes he tired out earlier this month. the article i had no way gates i didn't
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either but baucus has not retired he has been reassigned to a desk job. out of his own number k. area grow our own john and i am now. this route back in many ways than the filmmaker that. every test if you quest is a bad one tell them all about what happened there. was you know that i'm not on there anymore and any i would compare there are enough current through the other to me i'm the public affairs officer you don't talk about us at this point i'm not off the record or. ok thank you recall. this is not
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a full story now by case. we would contact him again. even if he isn't just a small the on in a much bigger game. the security of the world requires disarming saddam hussein. saddam hussein and his sons must leave iraq within forty eight hours. passed charge of iraqi citizens. this event brings a further assurance at the torture chambers and the secret police are gone forever . but when these pictures are from saddam's ghraib prison came out. it's clear they have a scandal on their hands some say these methods originated in guantanamo we just haven't seen the pictures rumors have also begun to circulate
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new rumors of interrogators using sex and hip hop music to get people to crack. the sexual act a very traditional guess is first of all know me personally no but i have met people who know it's opens their school. if. for the. world it was under their child a lot of other things but then they sent in a girl who. will continue and she came up to me and started to talk. with you and she told me she could do many things for me till she started to touch
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me give me a massage and she grabbed me a certain places and and she actually told me that she could do plenty for me. but when she came closer to certain sponsors then i put up my hands and trying to protect myself and when she saw that at the end she got angry since i didn't want to you know we heard she said that whenever i wanted to see her and she said her name was sylvia and the three just tell them that you want to see me. and then we'll arrange everything and after that and she left. maybe that sounds like a prisoner's dream. to have
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a uniform give him. but we are sure the methods aren't used to for the prisoners comfort and convenience. what kind of bizarre interrogation methods are being used at guantanamo and what happens to the prisoners that are still being held there and are these methods really sanctioned from a. part of the answer comes thanks to the album ghraib scandal in iraq. which set off a storm of protests and a wave of investigations which made public thousands of previously classified documents. human rights activists all over the world began taking measures to get prisoners released from guantanamo even in the. workforce to get a piece of paper like this which is called the evolution of interrogation techniques one ton of. these are techniques actually approved by our secretary of
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defense donald rumsfeld and if you read them you get sickened by them among all the documents we find a story a story that has its beginning in the fall of two thousand and two they have a problem at guantanamo the prisoners have stopped talking and the old methods don't seem to be effective anymore. now they want to interrogate for twenty hour sessions remove prisoners clothes let them stand naked in uncomfortable positions make them wear who. they also want permission under medical supervision to lower the temperatures in interrogation rooms. and take advantage of prisoners phobias. for example the prisoners fear of dogs. so here you have our search area defense authorizing the use of dogs and of course the word focus is particularly
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interesting because that has to do with. their. live just back for muslims the dogs around clearly would later have friends in the interrogation room. when the new methods are implemented only the prisoners know and their interrogators the problem is that the interrogators at guantanamo don't give interviews with one exception tora nelson. and.
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