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thought about the big picture i'm charming coming up in this half hour we're going to the workplace may bring home the bacon for the men are bringing home the flame in their own so why on earth are american women in two thousand and eleven getting paid less than a bus teachers in tennessee under green lights teach the bible alongside evolution if a proposed bill makes its way through the states. that have the potential to get a passing grade and sadly today's average college grad will now gain a degree along with a debt burden that's probably more than their first year's salary i'll explain how the american dream is vanishing for the class of two thousand and twelve.

today is equal pay day a day to recognize that women in america still don't receive equal pay for equal work alongside men making roughly seventy seven cents for every dollar the men or i thought although take a look at these charts women working in retail earn even less than men one third less in fact roughly sixty four cents on every dollar and if you thought things were getting better for women in the workplace think again rashed your women's earnings compared to men's earnings plummeted and since two thousand women have only caught up to men by a measly three percent. so this is acceptable and. there are other takes of this issue carrie lucas so it could have director the independent women's forum and battle grows graves. president of the national women's law center welcome to you both thank you thank you both for joining us curia women just not worth as much as

men in the workplace no i don't it's why it's great news when you look at the statistics that women are increasingly earning in some cases more than that if you look at a study just came out recently that looked at women living in metropolitan areas and found that for twenty two to thirty year olds who are single and childless women are outearning then by about eight percent so should men be getting all up in arms no it's because women those women are better educated than their male counterparts and that's what these the statistics that just look at who these you know just are comparing men to women it leaves out so much relevant data that they tell us centrally nothing about what men and women are paid in the. for what kind of work it's really and doesn't tell us anything about discrimination so that's going to look a little deeper and seem a gross groups are we comparing apples to oranges here well the. seventy seven cents to stick that looks at all male workers versus all female worker is but what we have found is no matter how you cut that statistic if you

control for all the factors that you could control for seniority experience or occupation in education there still remains a pretty significant i'm explain wage gap and have been a number of studies that have come out that have looked at lawyers and m.b.a. . and they've all come to the same conclusion gaps starts early and expands over time so i think but i want to you know i was pleased to hear that we are talking about i think that we can still you know i think there is probably still a way it's kept but we shouldn't keep propagating this lie that women are earning seventy seven cents for the men's dollar because when you start looking. some of the big five seventy maybe you know it's more like ninety five ninety five when we start and i think it's interesting when we start when we start talking about exactly how much it is then you can start seeing you know a lot of women i mean it does appear there's been studies that have suggested that some women are more reticent to negotiate for their salary and i think it's a great thing to say you know when i when i was offered my first job that i say you know i work two thousand dollars more than that and if i didn't and if that's part

of the problem then not something i can teach my two daughters but just telling them oh you're being paid you know that's true being to korea i mean that's that's that's the issue that men are more likely to negotiate and women and that's one of the causes of. this is yeah i think it's jumping here. this seventy seven cents statistic there are a lot of factors that come into play some of it is pay discrimination and i think when it's been studied further that perhaps what people have found some of it is occupational. and one study actually started out with a g.a.o. report that with people department of labor a part of president obama's department of labor just came out with something that found nothing but i didn't discriminate driving up. i don't think that's exactly right but in any of. occupational segregation in the thought that women's wages tend to be depressed and the male dominated industry that also plays a role i mean there are a number of factors that play a role and contribute to that wage gap but the point is that there is some measure

of that is related to discriminate on the policy proposal on the table the paycheck fairness is designed to really address that but is also to interrupt because science addressed some of the issues like salary negotiations well there are provisions in there that talk about salary and gives you let me just take this a step further you know in norway they require forty percent of the parliament to be women in iceland i think it's fifty percent. last century the twentieth century i think we were all born in the twentieth century it's all those dog twenty first one hundred fifty million people died. in wars and with the exception of maggie thatcher in the balkans all those wars were declared by men why don't we want to learn something from this why don't we why don't we say that half of all legislatures have to be women but half of all boards and executives have to be women and that for the next ten years men are not allowed to vote. i'm dead serious

. i find it's such an offensive one hundred years of you know you know people died can you imagine time a hundred have to be a million people you're saying that i'm saying that there was a general use the word reset punish all men for things that happened in you nineteen seventeen and in my home you know that john if yesterday and yes i am what i am it's called an old friend of mine harvard medical school the most dangerous drug in the world is testosterone years where there's a fight at the fair to mad you know as your employees do you actually do as as as ben franklin pointed out at the opening of the constitutional convention where there were thirty four members of your coronation if if it should be an odd thing if five nations of ignorant savages which was meant as a slur have been able to survive in peace for a thousand years and should be an amazing thing of thirteen. colonies of educated

englishman going to do the same and what the iroquois had done is they had for hundreds of years only the women vote because there were a decision is made based on the seventh generation you know i'm not trying to make your head explode kerry but but seriously i think frankly the most i think we've got a problem here is what is really going to be that iraq thing that in fifty minded people we have we got through to you know one thing that i will thing is that i think back issues like fair pay really at this point are family issues and they should be ones that men and women prioritize generally and i think when polled the american people are very excited about this issue and i understand that it's a it's a pocket place. that impacts men and women to the extent that these critical issues aren't being prioritise in congress and so go oh and i think the representation of what you're trying to secure his point if i may if i may just take your side for a second or would you know the women particularly if you look at

a particular cohort you know twenty to thirty years old college educated they're making more than men are in their group and we have a problem with this generation of boys coming and if so what do we do about the young men that are that are not succeeding i mean i think that there needs to be a focus on all young people who aren't succeeding and i think what's been clear in this economy is that if you don't have the skills to have a high quality job won't get so there are groups of young men and groups of young women who aren't able to do that right now and it's a real problem and i think the study that you're pointing to wasn't comparing it was interesting that study didn't actually compare apples to apples either because it was saying these the reason that these young women are finally earning more is because. they have a college degree and that any having a college degree more early and read with leisure education and we have we have just just thirty seconds what's what's the solution. well government isn't going to be the solution i think when you look at what's happening with boys right now and

you think about right now we have a college system where we continue to push you know the only place where boys are new to get more degrees than women is in science and math so what does are this administration doing there create they're pushing proposals that say ok we're going to go in and micromanage universities until women are earning half those degrees what is going to stop is it only when women i know women in college and let me know when we only have women in colleges that's when that's when it seems like the left is going to stop going to be satisfied and tom it sounds like if you don't want to vote then maybe who cares we don't need to be educated anymore. well i mean i will say that this administration is rightly. into this and soon because it's a nap. it's the only national security issue really in general i think with the least with ensuring that that period playfair not allowing equal pay are with. we have to we have to have the security but you know thank you very much both of you for showing up. despite legislation a mandate equal pay for equal work that are mostly run by

a men of blowing holes in the requirements making it harder and harder for women to prove they've been discriminated against every attempt to close the loopholes been met with near unified opposition by the republican party as the old song goes there's too much white male power in this world. the tennessee state house finally passed much anticipated legislation to allow teachers to question evolution giving more ammunition to people who want intelligent design taught in our public schools so despite the fact that evolution is without a doubt accepted in the scientific community it will present be presented as a controversial subject in tennessee classrooms the bill still has to pass the state senate something expected not to be a problem for republicans win another battle in the ongoing war against science so

we seen religious fundamentalism on the rise in tennessee here to offer his take is vincent bugliosi an attorney and author of the book divinity of doubt the god question then some welcome to the program. thanks for having me on tom appreciate it it's great to have you here on the t.v. program we talked on the radio a number of times i have a lot of respect sort of in your work. you write about intelligent design in your book your thoughts on its political processes or progress rather than us in the forces that. just first real quickly your thoughts on you know what's going on in in tennessee in this you know promotion of intelligent design so-called intelligent design as a as a side by side fifty fifty alternative to evolution. well let's get into something that's beyond the book whether or not we should have it i don't think we should because i don't think it's a science but that's way beyond what i'm talking about in the book not my view is

that. it's not scientific it's a story yeah but you have the issue of intelligent i'm sorry. i was just i you know i read most of your book and you have talked about yes intelligent design in the and the i can't hear you tom i've got something coming out of my ear done although i still i yeah you know not what i'm telling you what i'm telling you is that i do discuss intelligent design in the book no question about it whether it should be taught in schools i think that's beyond i can my view is that it should not because of the simple fact that it's not a science of you you. know who are not familiar with your work you not only wrote the book helter-skelter of the new york times bestseller but you were the guy who prosecuted charles manson you've prosecuted yes many many capital cases i think it was run in your career my recollection is correct you wrote a book about lee oswald you wrote

a book might one of my favorites called the prosecution of george w. bush. which i thought was just a brilliant prosecutor's brief for why this guy should be in jail as we were criminal why take on religion why this was not even take on religion what brought you to this. well i had. thought a lot about god and religion throughout the years i read the bible but i decided thompson to take it to a different level take two years out of my life literally immerse myself completely in the subject seven days a week to see if some of these some of these religious beliefs that we've had around for centuries had any merit to them and at the expense of sounding presumptuous what i discovered what i just. however it is so startling and i have to say that it's a fact and so startling that if someone read divinity of doubt it was not stunned they're the type of people tom the problem would be surprised if they saw

a man jump way from his own shadow if you have if we have the time i'd like to go just very briefly to some of the things that i know that i find to be startling to have that i you know we have agreed a couple of minutes ago. among among other things i found that contrary to popular belief the bible does not support the notion of free will in fact astonishingly the bible supports the exact opposite that there is no free will it turns out that there are tell it the of the soul was a pure invention of plato that christianity was forced to embrace because of the simple fact that without immortality of the soul there's no life after death there's no life after death and there is no heaven and hell for christianity to offer or threaten their millions of dollars with perhaps the the mill startling thing i came up with. is the fact that if you look at the new testament in conjunction with the old testament the evidence is very clear it proves not just

beyond a reasonable doubt but beyond all doubt that jesus was not born of a virgin and therefore by definition was not the son of god it was not the son of god then the christian doctrine that god had his son die on the cross for our sins that goes out the window to in effect ravaging much of christianity you know i know that's hard to believe for your viewers the only problem is that it happens to be the truth i believe that no one who reads this book and that's the consensus of people who have is ever going to feel the same way again about god or religion and that's the precise reason why i say this that if someone is deeply religious and they have no doubt about god and religion and jesus and they get much solace and comfort and strength from their religious beliefs i absolutely. i recommend that they don't read this book no i'm not i imagine some viewers will say well he's just using reverse psychology to get people to read the book and if they feel that way there's nothing i can do about it i'm just simply telling you this is the way i

feel my daughter wendy she's got two friends close close friends very very deeply religious they want to read the book and she said do not read the book you're going to be heard who's a book for well i think it's for christians who have a doubt most christians do have a doubt and for agnostics and atheists that someone would deeply believes in god etc they can only be hurt by this book ok when some billy-o. seem to have thank you so much i don't know now it's not yeah that's quite right thanks ranks so much for joining us and you did a great job of summarizing your book i appreciate your being with us organized religion is relatively recent in human history and interesting leads both growing and collapsing at the same time but spirituality has always been with us and probably always will be with us and perhaps for some very good reasons if you hug a tree recently after the break college students won't have to wait until the career house and kids to join the national debt party pretty much are as v.p.

for it as soon as they attend their first class more on that and still you take.

it's the good the bad and the very very extremely ugly first the good d.c. mayor vincent gray gray took a stand yesterday for the people living here in the nation's capital responding to congress's new budget the places a slew of restrictions on d.c. by preventing them from using funds for abortion and for needle exchange programs as well as implementing the republican school voucher program in the district gray took to the capitol to protest and was willing to and did get arrested for after seven hours gray and others were released from jail. the bad ikea. the global furniture giant up to invert ginia try to discriminate in the goods workers and group anyone from unionizing despite massive profits at this particular ikea factory workers have seen their wages and benefits lashed and now six

employees are filing a lawsuit against the corporation for discrimination to see just how bad the situation is for american workers at ikea and in general figure that the average ikea worker in sweden that's the headquarters of the company and where the biggest factories are that average worker gets five weeks vacation and makes nineteen dollars an hour. but in third world america the average ikea worker only gets twelve days vacation and makes eight dollars an hour. which like america is sweden's ip is sweat shop. and the very very ugly glenn beck on his radio show this morning beck came to this conclusion. about labor unions and in particular the service employees international union as i. look at what i see are you has done to our nation look what they've done just with health care and they are moving us to

a new global order that doesn't look anything like something that has been written down in the constitution or a new global order where workers have a strong minimum wage a safe workplace environment and a few vacation days be afraid be very afraid when banks fear of workers' rights is frankly just very very. welcome to america the only developed nation in the world that encourages its students to go to college last year for the first time in the history of our nation student loan debt outweighed credit card debt in america and it's likely that by the end of this year there will be more than one trillion dollars in outstanding

college debt in the hands of our students one trillion dollars every student leaves school today already twenty four thousand dollars in the hole and considering these new graduates are staring down and meaning job market more and more of them each day will be forced to default on their loans this is the state of higher education america if you want to go to college be prepared to be swimming in debt with no prospects of ever paying it off or even finding a job in the field you study a few weeks ago i bought a suit at macy's a man waiting on me was a lawyer degree and everything admitted to the bar no work he said so i'm here selling men's suits i guess it's better than mcdonald's. thomas jefferson wrote the declaration of independence he served two terms as our third president and as one of the most iconic figures in american history but what jefferson was most proud of was not his eight years in the white house where he was most proud of

was his founding of the university of virginia in fact before he died he drafted clear instructions for his tombstone to read here was buried thomas jefferson the author of the declaration of american independence of the statute of virgin for a virgin or for religious freedom and father of the university of virginia jefferson instructed by these as testimonials that i have lived i wish most to be remembered nothing about being remembered as a two term president jefferson wanted to be remembered as the founder of the university of virginia that's because he along with the rest of our founding fathers knew that the most important part of our nation's infrastructure is an educated populace not roads up bridges but educated young people it's from this pool of intellect that the next great leaders would emerge the next doctors and engineers and vendors and problem solvers statesman and authors and most of all jefferson wanted and university of virginia to be available for everyone not just the children of

a risk to grads but also free to poor young people in fact he wanted to make all education free and wrote extensively about the need for free public education from jefferson's model inexpensive or free of land grant and state colleges going up all around the country over the next two centuries for example i had friends in the one nine hundred sixty s. who were going to california to get a free college education as to wish at the university of california system statewide was effectively free and as a result the american workforce particularly in california and silicon valley became the most intelligent inventive and competitive in all the world then something changed. as soon as he became governor of california ronald reagan ended free education across the state referring to the university of california students particularly those from kurt protested again against the vietnam war he called them brats freaks and cowardly fascists to end the protests he said quote if it takes a bloodbath was get it over with no more appeasement and next week when students

were killed at kent state reagan said that anybody quoted him on his need for the bloodbath was quote neurotic after killing off free college education in california as president reagan cut the federal education budget helping kids through school from twelve to six percent of the federal budget and in the process paved the way for profit making businesses to get into the business of offering college educations in a big big way that had never before been seen in america for example the head of the for profit university strapped wire robert silbermann made forty two million dollars in two thousand and nine an average c.e.o.'s like silberman make more than twenty six times what traditional heads of real universities nonprofit universities make in america and yet this ninety percent of the funding for these for profit so-called universities comes from you and me the taxpayer and a top it all off despite the fact that for profit universities only account for

eleven percent of higher education in america just eleven percent they make up nearly half of all student loan defaults that's because they're now focused on educating your job placement they're only focused on profits reagan transformed our nation's education system in a fundamental way turning his back on what thomas jefferson and the founders created a strong public education system. so faced with these startling numbers about student loan debt what do you think our elected representatives are doing and turns out they're making the problem worse face of budget deficit states are raising tuitions of public universities and capitol hill pell grants the last way for very bright but poor kids to go to college are on the chopping block also to pay for tax cuts for the very rich so while we work to trim our budget deficit we're created a new deficit in our nation's brainpower and this is already having devastating consequences for america's standing in the world but most patents are still filed

in the u.s. it's no longer exclusively americans and american companies file in world wide on a per capita basis we're beat by japan and south korea and out of percentage of g.d.p. basis comparing business apples to business apples were people a south korea japan germany and new zealand and germany higher education is completely free in eleven of sixteen states in denmark higher education is completely free to residents and denmark is considered on the most educated nations in the world and one of the happiest in china home to the world's largest pool of college students people pay between four hundred and two thousand dollars a year for everything classes room board books everything and there are generous government scholarships in china for the brightest students at the same time the republicans here in america are killing off our similar programs called pell grants . these are by the way just foreign nations operating their own education systems in a vacuum they're our competitors in a global market and there's learning the essential skills to compete for jobs in

the twenty first century well our students are learning the essentials of payment plans and how to be slaves to banks for decades after they graduate once again reaganism and its conservative spawn are destroying our nation as the big picture for more information on the stories we covered visit our website it's on arbonne dot com an r.t. dot com also check out our youtube page at youtube dot com slash the big picture our t. and the entire shows available for free podcast on i tunes don't forget democracy begins with you get out there show up get active tag your it will see to.

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