it's. to. talk about you're with are you here is a look at the top stories as the unrest raging across the arab world puts the heat on oil prices other countries are looking for ways to avoid an energy crisis by the e.u.'s reluctance to rely on russian supplies could leave european consumers paying the price for costly alternatives. in the view of rebels who are now

engaged in the battle for the town of brag and say they have no shortage of weapons as supplied by sympathetic nations opposition fighters are also appealing for more nato airstrikes this by the earlier claims that the bombings are killing a growing number of civilians. and british officials are preparing to evict one of its largest travelers communities which will route around a thousand people and cost millions they insist they drive to stay on the land and out are prepared to fight to stay. the same they have lines coming up next al gore now spotlight focuses on whether it's time to swap military maneuvers for a diplomatic dialogue and afghanistan. for the full stop we've got lead from the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers.

we'll. bring you the latest in science stream technology from around. we've got the future covered. hello again a welcome to spotlight the injury show on heartache i'll bring our own today my guest on the show is called will. let me tell that warfare in afghanistan has been going on for ten years already but seeing little success some of it's a loyalist allies like the former british foreign secretary david miliband are criticizing that they no longer believe in a military solution and say it's now time the diplomats should step in but is it

possible to deal with taliban terrorists in a language other than against the russians should now the answer they've tried everything. my guess is the presidential special envoy for afghanistan said you have a couple. nato neutral operation in afghanistan has been going on even longer now than the soviet campaign there in the eighty's but the book says in just three years it will hand over to afghan forces in several areas of the country however security and stability are still rare in many regions of afghanistan the wave of violence is now its highest since the taliban regime was toppled ten years ago this makes some military experts say the withdrawal of new. troops is premature warfare must continue. mr koppel thank you for joining us on the show so well first of all. again a stand is in the news today once again because foreigners have faced outrage in

this country after a preacher in florida has burned a book of koran and a jury in one of his ceremonies in the united states in the noise city of mazar e sharif people have stormed the u.n. clamp down they killed three staff members and killed four guards is does that mean the situation in the country is getting out of control completely can you confirm that. i will say for the moment that is getting out of control there is still some reserves if i may put it in this way but these are all reactions in mazar e sharif reflects. all the advantages of population of course of the secretion of koran is very much hurting for and sensitive issue for any muslims in the world but in afghanistan. population suffered for it we can

last year as a last twenty. are even more sensitive and he acts like acts well i have a quote here from the turkish president of dillard here's what he says quote we are involved there in afghanistan not only in the war but we should help the afghan people normalize life two thousand and eleven is a critical year for afghanistan as the coalition will start leaving soon and quit well you were talking about the situation the country do you think that the role of turkey as a region. will power and some other regional powers will be increasing after the coalition leaves. to keep the situation somehow under control which we started talking first or a live thing that it's still premature and for discuss a coalition living situation according to the recent decisions of laid tour

two thousand and fourteen is the benchmark only. called mission for souls and will still be beyond all these the really yeah of course of course so they may change the label as they claim they're going to train. at the same time they will keep quite significant military presence of three that's why i don't think that it will be to require turn to go into. the north here it's not yet but anyway it's a very positive statement by talking to the government i hold they will be able to materialize all these. losers what would you say then about the role of iran and now that another huge and these new power and the relative ghana's kind of this country is also very significant and the west is not happy about it is

you're right. i would say about certain iran strongly and of governance than even is even more important that you see run has its own legitimate interests in this country because of its nation's security issues and iran has a contribution a lot in terms of economy the role of again balanced and. steal horses so more than two million are going to refuse on its own sorel and of course iran has a lot on stage you're not going to stand and on the same time we many times heard from iranian official. most of all their concerns so are all the american military presence in afghanistan they believe the presence is a myth at vic iran if not only am i interests in other regional powers pakistan neighboring pakistan secret services and not only the secret services but but well

practically officially we're supporting taliban a lot now after the regime change has this situation changed or is it isn't continuing the support oh really. pakistani officials. state that many times them favor over south on monday and stability gonna stand and they have been any in wal-mart in supporting the government forces are are going on to government forces but at the same time there is a growing three hundred fifty or so. many taliban fighters under the structures so they have but the network the logistics and other sort of network lorries on the pakistani sorel. are if practiced on real or wants to conduct

policy that all of the state of them that's where they should the other sort of these very important problem of the same humans and they are not doing it so they are doing they did quite well in sol for the respond last year about so everybody knows that very few share a collar bomb and threes all on the government force unless they have have so safely an insert in northern. in biologist. and some other political agents and or pakistan and the tribal areas i guess is certainly was a part of the tribal ok we have been talking about geopolitics around afghanistan and last five minutes you haven't yet mentioned india which is. a great ally and a big friend of russia by the way india i think it's the second largest sponsor of ghana stand maybe behind iran but the head of the united states so china and pakistan they don't like in india sponsorship because they think it threatens their

interests in the region what's what's moscow's that if you do you do you like to see india's role increasing at a year india are is one of the biggest so dawn or reconstruction of of your own storm they did a lot and then as you will be measured in days are called one of the closest part of the russian federation and not only in afghanistan and we believe that the india play is playing and can probably construct a role in stabilization i'm gonna something else for allegations those are all those congress you mentioned well they have history of difficulties but there are a lot of them and recent history i'm afraid steel costs shader one. of their region over in this world and i've got a son that's very peaty because russia is a part of the region and were interested in corp one are gonna stand because so we

really believe in real in a regional approach healthy regional approach for stabilization in our ground is not possible without participation of such countries like india china pakistan and iran but india is literally at war with pakistan everybody knew who was in there in that question we have been there and know that they are it or actually were a lot i been i'm afraid it's a little bit overstatement and toward the recently leaders of india and pakistan started that we knew rob of improvement of relations and we are. well of course it's a very slow and difficult process and the men are miles to be coward to head but. they are not at war and it will do very dangerous not only for the region the but for the all the rural and even the student for the conference of the region will be

war because what they're actually nuclear powers so that's that's why we don't like them to be in the such operation and the whole they will not reach the station there by live forever they are still aiming at each other of the i mean the soldiers and the officers and that you spoke of my. fields many many hundreds of miles of minefields over there i also i know a lot of all the places in the world i'm sure you also know there are with the same situation but that doesn't mean that perhaps it was staged or warry so called a war situation perhaps to be. it's really important for us for the world peace to even poor countries through improve their while other allusions for the sake of gunslingers work your son say we started by talking about this terrorist situation

now in afghanistan after this after this koran burning in america a study commissioned by the united nations i quote violent attacks against humanitarian aid workers have tripled tripled during the last decade with more than one hundred deaths reported annually is the current wave of riots some think something exceptional in this respect. no perhaps it's not exceptions are exceptional in view of overall military political situation. we know that taliban insurgency increasing the zune i would say of the ration in the county. they are focusing not only only on nato i saw far matter come wheel of the beast all nations out frying photography evidence. not only for almost bought the locals as well and the aid workers saw soft targets for them and easy to work to

reach and that's why that they becoming weak themselves war says investors then you kabul of the presidential special envoy to afghanistan spotlight will be back shortly after we take a break fails stay way you while we'll continue this interview and left them in the . place. they come in kind of the. songs on the slate which. just see others wants to take our spirits. but she's the diva of the rivers.

she is no interest asked me. feel your river chasing adrenaline from the car seat next stop eleven in a country that don't understand that there's more violence in the streets of this country than there are in the streets in afghanistan or baghdad. then one night in desperation to get a break from. it but is it good to see her. living. roger there's no real. answer but.

i welcome back the spotlight i'm now going to have and just to remind you that my guest on the show today is then you a couple of the presidential special envoy to afghanistan well here's something you've already told us that this declaration that two thousand and fourteen will be the the date when the coalition forces will complete those are all this is not actually the exact date because the this is this is one of the dates one of the dates of the process but actually the military presence will continue to thousand and fourteen and we're not looking at looking at. a big added as we are forced from from afghanistan but in this respect can we can we envisage such threats and many experts are talking about it has

a sort of an export of extremist export of terrorism out time against unfortunately yes we have all these sort of phenomenon now we had of the prior political struggle in one when the we had a network of training camps are in afghanistan were. found on sort of people from the from conference got terroristic three and there were of the unsigned band used to utilize their an old shack or and paul winchell all the world . circumstances of course. i'm going to sort you see is mostly busy. the with collaging with the foreign forces and the argonne the local government forces but we are afraid that later on if god forbid they will have a hand and number over part of insurgency who are professional

warriors already they may try to find and huge european fields or other and knowledge to be applied to apply those forcible it's one seconds it was not my judgement the americans will stay in are against them beyond two thousand and fourteen if there is a statement all the president of the united states of america and nato or officials of the. saw and they want to establish sure permanent or long standing military bases in against them we can just imagine in these swallowtail rural i mean first of all lot of world and afghanistan was all volatile for the last thirty years i don't believe that those islamic extremists who are fighting americans now that they will behave the way the military bases on

afghan soil in the neighborhood it may be good to me galvanize prove their extremist our t.v. things and we will give impulse and impetus to a continuation of spreading ruby's disease and just a couple of some say that the foreign that occupation is that truly fueling and the taliban and seeing what's russia's official quoted in this. were a lot of russian official position is very close to the position that we don't believe in foreign occupation because it's indeed fuels for at least. two reasons an afghanistan that many insurance while fighting for most of the forums as crusaders and leaders are our guns are very much our leverage to any foreign military presence of their country and their independence only and like

many other most of the countries also welcome to the world but now they are much more sensitive due to their recent history. that's why of course we are not we don't believe in a long foreign presence to be to have a start belies ing a fact box scenes these operation started ten years or girl and we also don't believe in a military solution but we don't believe in medieval or social it was i would economy action inside the system even americans and nato forces doesn't want to do it i would have to remind them of the return by kipling just in the end of the nineteenth century he ruled that if you had days and confused by our government from the bains and therefore thought was the rule is all that remains then. change rethink that. keeps nation building and rethink your game

and fight the real enemy balder. where well he knows he knew what to do what to say because they pretty much have been trying to conquer against that from the self for ages and ages and all failed and all failed yeah that says those sounds are the russians still there was a time to come from the north and they also think lenin and even before the bolsheviks and in the eighteenth century nineteenth century. twenty years ago when russia was fighting a war in afghanistan america wasn't directly involved but it was pretty firm chill and it sort of enjoyed the situation of its influence while russia while russia was doing the fighting now america is fighting and nato is finding russia is looking from the side trying to coordinate trying to help trying to be involved there is russia enjoy this situation more than it did how we change sides in this political

situation we're not exactly russia or at least has all the rights to enjoy this operation but we don't do it for the simple reason because our own national interest to do so security is human used on steering those who are far from being in point during the operation because we don't want the needle and america has failed because we will have to cope with the very implications or very of failure that's why we indeed wish them success but in what means success stabilizing your younger son in all terms your military economy economy and leave country as soon as possible well this certainly is one of the main lessons that. modern invaders have to learn from the previous including the russians are there any other lessons. except get the air out of the other any other lessons that nato

should learn from the saudi experience in afghanistan there's a lot a lot. it's a military political bloc. should understand that they should come into afghanistan with the economy because i've got a strong will stay after a very big posture and you do want to leave afghanistan with the people for good positive memory they should start doing economy and are gonna start reconstruction the world on. other ways so. bitter memories are all over our guns so we'll spread throughout the muslim town which the russians as a matter of fact the soviets did a lot of because now nikolay exactly your rational a lot they think not only should they did only do the shooting but they did the building exactly exactly. nato as far as i heard from the press has managed to to to to diminish the casualties among civilians in afghanistan i mean

as a result of their operation is it true is the situation better you should never say as a representative person. when it comes to the strike is the call the last year it's not you know truer. words are you know they're trying their best to do that so i'm not always successfully. there is a desire and we conceive these for about for the time being the number of casualties is quite high. nature so has said to have trained one hundred fifty thousand i have gained troops afghan soldiers to to defend their own country they think that once the foreigners start getting away these soldiers trained by nato will be able to to to stand against taliban. i would like to add though that besides of this almost one hundred. a hundred fifty thousand afghan army personnel. supported to train

almost one hundred twenty thousand policemen or the minister of interior of a million devices you know the number of costs about one pound throughout a quantity of things look. like ok but quit what is a question a problem is a quality. army did so once on a point of time on the soviet union and in the partnership was a soviet union was one of the most capable and strongest army of the retirement now doesn't have air force i can on the random that any army in the world to be capable of fighting because our car which was run on the second are gone out of me as well as police in north korea will use not. with a weapons and other things i why not talking about more them straight off weaponry

but steel they should be capable. of bishops have access to these weapons. not so you give them all these things that will be difficult to imagine for them to stand on their own feet alone and the one thing you know there are a lot from other countries for a successful army. three figures are important but. there are some trained personnel. firepower and morag. when it comes to moral was my personal opinion i don't believe that all our officers really think of fighting for the nation of course. it's really important when you quit and with the taliban this is the other way around most of them really fight for the cause and they believe that's true well with which they have zero which makes it difficult difficult to find the lewis has

always made it difficult to fight people and thank you thank you very much eriksson's you for being with us unfortunately we're running out of time and just a reminder that my guest today in the studio was a real hard ruler the presidential special envoy to afghanistan and that's it for now from all of us here if you don't have your sense part right this drop me a line. it will be back with more interest and comments on what's going on in and outside of russia and so then stay on cards and take your kids to. the by. the book.

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