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up in the lower show we'll get the real headlines with none of the marcy are going to live in washington d.c. and people around the world today are mourning the death of respected cinematographer tim hetherington so it's and i were flecks on his life his career and over you an exclusive interview that we had with him on his oscar nominated movie rostropovich then after being held for nine months in solitary confinement quantico p.f.c. bradley manning is being transferred to another facility so we'll tell you where he's being moved and will continue to investigate the conditions of his detention
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but it was one year ago today exactly when the deepwater horizon oil rig exploded leading to one of the worst oil disaster is in u.s. history but on this one year anniversary we want to know has anything actually been done to keep this from happening again and we all know the government is spying on us thanks to their wiretapping methods but now the obama administration is pushing the supreme court to rule on whether or not they can track you via g.p.s. without a warrant so look for those of the details of that case and ask if privacy is becoming a thing of the past and then since we didn't have a program yesterday today will make its host and celebrate happy hour i'll be joined by producer jenny churchill and military blogger jim hansen so discuss some of the stories that are making headlines this week but our fun is going to be safe for the end of the show right now let's move on to our top story. tonight we start with some very very sad news out of libya forty one year old tim hetherington an oscar nominated documentary filmmaker was killed in misrata libya he was. the three
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other photographers two of which were severely wounded and are considered to be in grave condition as of now on april nineteenth just yesterday he tweeted from his phone in this siege libyan city of misrata indiscriminate shelling by cut off the forces no sign of nato as british born journalist was best known for his films and photographs from conflict zones and we were fortunate enough to meet this film maker last year when he first debuted his oscar nominated project. so in order to in order to honor to him for his work and his bravery we decided to replay our interview with him from july seventh of last year where he explained his work following american troops while in the korengal valley of afghanistan jim thanks so much for being here you know there's so much talk going on about this film right now and actually i haven't seen it yet because it's not playing in washington i really can't wait but i first want to ask you because you're someone it's been a war reporter for a long time you've seen a lot of wars and how do you is this war in afghanistan different where you know.
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michael barrett so we spent a total of ten months five months each in this valley in the outpost called restrepo and we just had this kind of amazing relationship with the soldiers there and i think that was the really unique thing for us i spend you know weeks or months and rebel lines in liberia but never was i five months with the same group of guys and so the access the the intimacy of the film is pretty remarkable well five months definitely is longer than most people most reporters get to spend when they're in bed but my question to you is since you got to know these guys so well how does it feel for them when people at home call this the forgotten war even though they're out there every single day risking their lives you know i think what we want to do with the film was bring home the reality of what these guys do to the american audience and wider audience obviously you know i think the american public is in some ways disconnected from the kind of some of the realities of things happening out there we just made the most visceral and immediate wolf and we could be told that you don't really see that in network news and so you know it's a keyhole. people you can see the context of the war but are americans disconnected
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because americans don't care because they're so far removed from these wars and because so few people in america really are a fact that if we compare casualties in afghanistan to say perhaps the wars of our past or is it because like you said the network media the mainstream media just doesn't do their job they don't have the same resources out there they don't have the same amount of reporters covering the day to day activities no i think the american public really is eager to know more about this war i mean people are very confused about what's happening there the moment i just think that you know obviously no one uses you two or three minutes on the afghanistan and here you can come into a theater for ninety minutes go on a deployment really see what these guys go through i mean there are fifty million americans who are connected to people in the military who served in the military or serving they will know what their loved ones go through and people want to know what he's talking about and all film provides that context but it does not work newco news only provides you these two or three minutes if it's because i mean some would argue that's all that the american viewer has the time span for the attention
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span for i mean you know part to me was so interesting is the fact that you actually put your own money into making a full feature documentary film so doesn't that show you there's a problem there that you can get other people or the other people weren't jumping on the opportunity to invest in something like that you know i mean as you we both know no one uses a form of providing information and you know people do want to know what's happening i was last night in albany and the meetings that we were having following the film the q. and a's and the discussion is like the local. town hall meeting people are really interested to find out what happened you know and we also able to come to the politics the side of the ninety three minutes go and see and understand what these young men go through as a starting point for discussion about the war and the discussions that have followed the film have been very interesting now that you've decided like you said in this film to put all politics aside to not put a certain political spin on it but from your personal perspective do you think this is a war that the u.s. is losing after spending five months there in the. one remote outpost well as you
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said i spent five months in a remote outpost it was very difficult for me to get a wider sense of the war i mean you know it's like a same corner of valley is indicative of afghanistan the size in detroit is indicative of america i mean there are things we can learn from what's happening we can definitely see in the call valley but what happens when you know this is counterinsurgency lights it's like this is what happens if you don't put enough resources into a counterinsurgency war but you know what's going to happen in the future i have no idea i mean you know the critical phase in the war and you know people want to know what will happen obviously so how do those men if they are in this remote outpost in one of the most remote regions and the entire country are they are they tuned into what's going on to what people are saying to what's in the press to get the generals are saying i have how do you know when you're so far away where you don't and i think you know the guys that i was with in valley up on the border of pakistan including you know didn't really know what was going to helmand i mean their job was to fight and do what they had to do in the valley you know soldiers don't really talk very much about politics i mean if they had it would be in the
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film you know they really focus on their homes their wives and their girlfriends and you know back home loved ones want to know what's happening you know it's very distressing for wives trying to keep their marriages together but i was going to come home and we talk about what happens out there and we hope this film will bring some insight into what their loved ones go through now it's a very positive i think. although you live in the states you are british so i want to get your perspective as someone who's a brit who chose to be with american soldiers there and you feel do you connect with these men like this is the same war that they are your country is also fighting in this war and just today we now have news that the british are leaving the sanguine region a lot of people would say that the brits are abandoning this war effort how do you feel about well you know i think britain is a very complicated time politically especially in terms of the two thousand and one wars that have you know the war on terror you know the you know the the inquiry into the iraq war this is highlighted the the idea of the nation that we were led into the world falsely bible. it's oceans you know until that day you know david
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cameron of saudi iraq who let you falsely into afghanistan what i'm saying is that tony blair was that was a key figure in the war in afghanistan and maybe many people feel they didn't want to be led and you know cameron has launched an inquiry today that looks at how you know british security screen television specials might have been might have colluded with other intelligence officials into the torture of terrorist suspects british terror suspects you know you know britain went into afghanistan and when the soldiers went in they were played by a lack of equipment we what i'm saying is this since two thousand and one in the british public's mind to give the war if it has been hampered by in all sorts of ways and i think that at this time of financial insecurity in the u.k. it feels like many people don't want to be in this war and you know whatever whatever the politicians are saying i think there does seem to be a british retreat from afghanistan our time our college time we have to thank you so much for being here it definitely was a pleasure verstraete pose the new documentary. we all can't wait to see.
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now we want to pass on our condolences from everyone here on the alona shell contains family and his friends our thoughts are also with the other for talk of hers who right now are not in good condition situations like this are the sad reality of the dangers that journalists face when covering war zones and the risks that they take to bring us the truth from the ground. now when it comes to libya there are also a few updates that we should mention as the war continues and seems to have reached a stalemate with no clear end in sight several sources have committed to providing some sort of aid to the rebels fighting against gadhafi the u.s. has announced it's going to send twenty five million dollars in non-lethal aid to the rebels president obama has openly stated that he wants to provide financial support that would help the libyans with vehicles medical assistance fuel trucks and protective vests this also comes at a time when france britain and italy have an ounce of they're going to be sending advisers to better organize the rebel forces and advisors as in officers as in have
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boots on the ground and we should also know that rumors are spreading over a possible split between rebel forces so i think it's safe to say that one thing here is very clear the mission in libya has changed dramatically for the united states and for its allies and who would have thought back in march when initial talks of a no fly zone were proposed the u.n. dismissed the idea of ever having any boots from any country on the ground the u.s. and the rest of nato originally wanted a quick and clean intervention where obama clearly stated america's mission and what would and what would not happen i also want to be clear about what we will be doing. the united states is not going to war ground troops into libya and we are not going to use force to go beyond that they will decide. but now these western advisers will be on the ground maybe not for america yet you tell me if
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there's really any difference between these trainers and what we all know as ground troops how long will it be before we see u.s. advisors with military gear on the ground and meanwhile let's ask another question what is the mission in libya you never want obama originally said that it off we must go. forward we will continue to send a clear message the violence must stop. has lost legitimacy to lead you must lead. them last week president obama and sarkozy and british prime minister david cameron wrote an op ed once again saying that this will not end until gadhafi is out but let's be clear here the military mission the u.n. resolution that was passed does not have that in its wording and to the file the u.s. defense secretary robert gates has very be grudgingly complied with obama's orders while he officially stated that the mission is simply to protect libyan civilians but now the u.s. is providing material aid and france and italy have joined forces with britain to
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train the rebels who by the way might be tied to al qaeda well as the war continues to expand the question really is what should they or do about it air strikes of expanded loyalist forces continue to be strong and the u.s. seems to remain stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to what they actually need to be doing there this mass is getting out of control and i think that a clear statement from obama as to what our role in libya is is in order. well it's still much more to come on tonight's show after being abused or conoco for several months p.f.c. bradley manning has been transferred to a different extension facility we'll have details on why he's being moved out of his new location in just a moment and then it's been a year since the explosion of the deep water horizon oil rig the beginning of the worst accidental oil spill in u.s. history but has anything been done to ensure there will never have another tragedy like this again looking at the issue after the break.
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you know some good to see a story that seems so. you think you understand it and then you get something else here's the part of it and realize that everything you saw.
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yesterday we found out that p.f.c. bradley manning will be moved from the marine bring it quantum go where is spent the last nine months in solitary confinement to the prison of fort leavenworth in kansas now the story was originally reported by the associated press who got the leak from a government official speaking on the condition of anonymity and according to manning's attorney that was how the defense team found out about the move from the press and labs despite pentagon officials who very quickly arranged for a press conference after the news broke announcing that they had been thinking about this for a while now all the worldwide attention has been brought to manning's treatment the pentagon is claiming that this move has nothing to do with international criticism but rather is simply a matter of policy as quantico is only for short pretrial stays and fort leavenworth as a military facility is more suitable for manning's continued long stay as he waits for his trial to begin now depending on his risk assessment and evaluation that will be conducted as soon as he arrives manning will allegedly be receiving three
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meals a day in the dining facility. with other inmates and have three hours of indoor and outdoor recreational time each day including access to a computer in the library so is this a promising move for many join me to discuss it is kevin zeese co-founder of voters for peace and executive director of come home america kevin thanks so much for joining us tonight now the military is denying that this move had anything to do with public pressure with the increasing to attention being paid to manning's case but what do you really think is going on here i mean is it a little conspicuous if you look at the timing i know there is another very large rally being planned on behalf of bradley manning i know that his defense attorney was also working on a lawsuit regarding the fact that his constitutional rights have been violated and there's no question this would not have a career not been for organized citizen pressure you know we talked about this or we could do i think. legal academics came out two hundred fifty of them around the country trying to president obama there used by living international and domestic
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laws. to bradley manning supporting or has been working on this now for almost nine months and we have seen the pressure building and building and building the u.n. the torture investigator generous to salute amnesty international hundreds of thousands literally hundreds of thousands of e-mails to the white house tens of thousands of telephone calls the white house and this is all we got we're optimistic this is a positive change we don't trust the military on this really bad actors so we already see people in kansas missouri organizing help to keep the pressure on locally and we'll keep the pressure on in washington d.c. as well let's talk about what some of the pros and cons could be bradley being moved to fort leavenworth here apparently allegedly he's going to be given a little bit more freedom healthy eating with the other inmates will have three hours of recreation time but it's also put them very far away from his attorney and how about his friends and the visitors that come see him here on the east coast. it was actually some even on those questions or some benefits his father and his
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father sister live with oklahoma where they can visit him much more easily in kansas that actually has him closer to his family where he grew up a part of his childhood he also his lawyer is in rhode island so it's a plane for you to waive the lawyers so yes there is a little bit longer but he still has that access i think there's no question he would never going to treatment plan and go to quantico korean command showed it could not treat probably many fairly they were going to keep him in these kind of torture conditions no matter what the public pressure was i'm sure this took a telephone call from the white house and the surgery army's here in a very direct in the exchange that we always said president obama could end this with one phone call and you could pressure finally got so intense that if i did something now one thing that i found very interesting also is that lieutenant colonel dahl and don hilton excuse me who is the garrison commander at fort leavenworth said that she's invited the media to visit this facility to see how quote wonderful it is now that she is inviting the media do you think that also
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means that people like dennis kucinich like amnesty international like the u.n. officials who've been trying to visit bradley manning are finally going to get some access to him. well this is a lovely new facility just opened up it's got lots of geothermal air conditioning and heating so it's a green building and they you know i think of course you know it's about consider there you and there's a gator and yeah mr international are really good ones and i think there will be a key test if we see the human investigator in torture going to visit we will probably be happy to know that there are humans being treated well because only you know the u.n. investigators are still freemen me where they were in quantico they were obviously hiding something quantico what they were doing could not stand the light of day allowing congressman kasich the special report here and amnesty international as well as others to come see what's really going on now well we assigned it means being treated properly so now manning is going to be there until his trial begins
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let's talk about the trial technically are you know legally does the military have to make this trial open to the public. well this was made every phase of the process over the public according to a long line of supreme court president as well as personal in the u.s. military courts u.s. corn military appeals has ruled repeatedly that open trials for the public in the media can be present as first key hearings in b. in late may early june was the current plan or a hearing are twenty seven hearing the trial would probably happen in october or november somewhere in that time period that many of these go where you all sorts of motions in between all the actually open to the public all that should be up in the media and this is a case that is about all our foreign policy meetings accuser releasing documents that show war crimes and misbehavior of government officials if they try to keep this secret they try to close this trial down that's a very bad sign for american democracy they have to wonder why wouldn't they close this trial down right away think about it a person that's really going to look bad at this trial is probably the u.s.
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government i can imagine that we're going to hear the details of manning's confinement at the trial i can imagine also that we might hear some of the details of the documents which he allegedly gave to wiki leaks and the secrets that were disclosed. you know i wrote about this that i called a manning for bradley manning quagmire because the military confuses prosecution is going to draw more and more attention to documents and video that means alleged to have released and when the trial over not by the way people can be wondering in the media and in the public why is this guy being prosecuted why did he do that so wrong and they're going to be looking at the documents looking at the video that he be seeing war crimes again you see hillary kill the clinton turning the state department to a nest of spies they're going to see the truth about u.s. foreign policy and so this this is really a quagmire for the military and the obama administration they should find a way out of this mess quick because it's not only good for recognizing the realities of u.s. national security it will be
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a very good for the american public to see the truth about our foreign policy but that's not what they are want to get out of iraq keep us thinking where the good cop of the world when in fact we're american empire do you think there's any chance that bradley manning can have a real fair trial. and you only will is going to happen is that people keep the pressure on me to go to bradley manning go towards the bradley manning support network in our monastery where we need it we're going bob simon it was going to constantly people who care about human rights care about our foreign policy who want to see if we have to work hard to keep their marriage as the u.s. government so for assume. this case this case is true hard for them and they're too afraid of the reality it was going to come out are you have want to thank you very much for joining us today and you know obviously keep following the story as we have been for months on this program i do hope that. we can thank you i do hope his conditions improve but it's still an excusable the way that he was treated at quantico up until this point thanks for having thank you. now is one year ago today
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that the largest environmental disaster in u.s. history began in the gulf of mexico and explosion at the deepwater horizon oil rig took eleven lives and kicked off an oil spill that lasted eighty seven days and spilled an estimated two hundred million gallons of crude into the water at the time the obama administration placed a moratorium on new drilling contracts politicians from both sides of the aisle vowed to change our laws so that we'd never see this kind of catastrophe again and the media provided nonstop around the clock coverage of the effects of once this leak was plugged the attention faded the largest environmental disaster became out of sight and out of mind for many americans so one year later what has been done to make sure it doesn't happen again joining me from our studio in new york is i'm tony as you hoss author of black tie the devastating impact of the gulf oil spill and sonia thank you so much for joining us tonight now it's been one here the moratorium has already been left there have already been
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a number of new oil contracts that were given out this year there have been no major laws passed on oil and gas drilling and yet when president obama spoke today he said that significant progress had been made can you tell me what progress. well certainly there have not been significant new regulatory changes put in place certainly we haven't seen the oil industry demonstrate that it's learned the lessons of this disaster trans ocean which was the owner and operator of the deepwater horizon gave out bonuses safety bonuses to its executives gave a raise to its c.e.o. at the end of this year and b.p. i was at b.p. shareholder meeting on april the fourteenth in london and b.p. made no indication at that time as they said that they were going to move into deeper offshore waters that they had fundamentally changed the failed policies that led to this disaster and i do think that as offshore drilling goes we have no
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reason to believe at this point that the lessons of the deepwater horizon have been learned and that those operations are safer than they were a year ago today but what happened to all of the lawmakers that at the time of the oil spill was going on were speaking out against this are saying that something absolutely needs to change i mean if you look back at the exxon valdez oil spill eighteen months later right they passed the oil pollution act and that was a big deal everybody kept paying attention kept pushing for a year and a half later so why now one year later everyone's already forgotten about it have our attention spans gotten that short. well let's hope that we haven't lost the window so this is the one year anniversary today we still have an opportunity to learn the lessons of this disaster there was incredible passion in the public and in the congress to pass legislation great bills that were moving forward through the congress through june through july as you say the momentum ended when the cap
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was put in place but when the momentum was actually killed was when carol browner president obama's climate czar went on television the morning of august sixteenth and declared virtually all of the oil is gone when the documents even she was looking at showed the opposite seventy percent of the oil remained only about thirty percent was gone that's when americans really turned off their televisions what i hope is that his one year anniversary that passion will be really reignited and the american public will put the pressure that's necessary on congress and on the administration to ensure that we never let this happen again but also the real restoration of livelihoods of health and of the gulf coast actually happens because right now b.p. is fighting every penny every inch of the way to ensure that it pays the money that it owes and we have to make sure that that takes place and that the people of the gulf coast in the places of the gulf coast are not forgotten and i was curious do you have any updates when it comes to compensation for the victims in those
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affected by the oil spill last i heard of b.p. employees just lost a laptop with the private information of thousands of those people on it but do we know has anyone actually gotten a payout yet. i don't feel. it's appropriate for me to talk about the settlements that have been made from the families but we do know of course that this is a critically important year for moment for them the day that they lost their loved ones and in terms of the claims process for those who lost finance who lost money as a result of this disaster we do know that kenneth feinberg who took over the process because it was so broken has only paid out one third of the hundreds and thousands of claims that have been filed so that means the vast majority of people who have get out of work for a year if people who are subsistence fishers who live off the fish that they're supposed to eat have not only not gotten income they can't eat the food they are
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supposed to be able to eat and they also have not gotten their claims paid and those claims need to be processed and need to be paid out now contrast that the fact that b.p. is fighting tooth and nail for every dollar when it comes to compensating those who may actually affected you know with their negligence with the fact that now b.p. is once again donating to political candidates of the fact that in two thousand and ten the oil and gas industry spent more than one hundred forty six million dollars lobbying the federal government and donated twenty eight million to federal campaigns do you think that people can ever win when you have that much money being thrown at politicians. absolutely the oil industry doesn't win everything that it goes after it is the wealthiest industry in the world it is the wealthiest industry hands down b.p. is one of the wealthiest corporations on the planet and as you say today we learned that it is throwing its money at this one year anniversary at the republican party hoping that the republican party's going to continue to be its standard bearer in
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the congress and not only block the legislation that we need to get passed to make to make sure this doesn't happen again but also they're trying to push new policies to open new offshore drilling the good news is we have an incredibly organized and passionate movement of people in the gulf coast that are organizing today right now in protesting today holding vigils today but also advocates climate justice activists who. hundreds of which at the end of the power shift conference they used conference of fifteen thousand leaders in washington d.c. went to the interior department and protested at the interior department three hundred of them and twenty two got arrested protesting there to make sure that b.p. isn't forgotten we do still have the opportunity to make sure that change does result as the outcome of this event and i think that you know in your last bradley manning people organizing if you're going to have an effect on changing u.s. military policy it.

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