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these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. chile corporations are to. burn the crown in florida and now heads to ignite hatred in the heart of the arab american community is this person who does america vs the muslim world. and the world of finance our golden opportunities a result of the dollar losing its shine. the government has. jet fighter planes they have for machine guns they have howitzers so if the government gets out of control how do you keep it in check the group of americans are using their second amendment rights to form a militia. saturninus
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thursday april twenty first at five pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster you're watching r.t. well he's the florida pastor that seemingly ignited the world when he first threatened and then did preside over the burning of the crown and its mark three days of protests in afghanistan they turned violent protesters killed eight united nations workers the burning spark condemnations from u.s. officials and questions over the limits of free speech now pastor terry jones is at it again he's planning a protest against a real law and jihad in dearborn michigan outside the biggest mosque in the country archies own christine was on the ground there she has this report. dearborn michigan is a suburb just not thirty miles southwest of detroit all of the original ford motor company in fact i'm walking along ford road right now but here in the midwest of the united states
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a lot of people say it looks more at times like the middle east because here in dearborn out of the one hundred thousand residents forty thousand or arab american there is the largest muslim population in the country and also the largest mosque you can see it here right behind me people who live here say it's a peaceful place but many are concerned about what is scheduled to take place right here tomorrow remember florida pastor terry jones the one who threatened to burn the qur'an on september eleventh canceled that but then ended up burning one last month though he has scheduled a protest here but he's protesting against radical islam also on good friday were many christians will attend church and the mosque is that right between two churches and see one of them right here a lot of people are concerned and are asking many questions today they're wondering will there be violence will there be riots and many are asking even a bigger question how will the actions of one man reflect america across the worlds
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. in dearborn christine for is now our team. and we have learned a dearborn judge has ruled that pastor terry jones must pay a one hundred thousand dollars peace bond if you want to protest the islamic center of america now if john if jones does not post the bond he could be ordered to stand trial this according to the detroit news now of course archie's own christine for that i will be following these developments and will bring us more tomorrow in a live report. now for more earlier i spoke with her room mogul director of the islamic center at n.y.u. i asked him in the case of pastor terry jones burning the qur'an to take a stand as a muslim and an american which is his priority honoring the qur'an or honoring free speech and the constitution here's his response i don't think the two are separate really i think that as americans we respect everyone's right to do and say whatever they want with an obvious limits and at the same time that same right gives us the
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freedom to live by the koran and read the koran and explore the koran and teach the koran so the ng a muslim being american or not it odds they aren't ah but how can you ignore the fact that burning the koran set off protests in afghanistan that resulted in the death of eight united nations workers they turned violent crowds chanted death to america i mean the actions of bring the qur'an and exercising free speech do seem to be at odds in terms of what the outcome the fallout. i would actually disagree i think that what happened in afghanistan really doesn't have to do with terry jones and burning the koran i think that was just a pretext for trying to understand why out of the dozens of countries it's significant in some populations only one of them saw violence we have to look beyond just islam and beyond the koran burning i think the reality is that enough
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on it there is a war there are civilian deaths there is a corrupt government that our government is backing we don't really know what we're trying to accomplish in afghanistan right now people in afghanistan are losing hope in in nato and in the mission and that's the kind of environment where i just are like terry jones adjustor can easily be manipulated by unsavory elements and used to further an agenda but it doesn't have to do with anything inherently in islam or any sort of inherent hatred of america i think it's very much the product of what's happening right now on the ground but that's the reality that that's what's happening on the ground we are at war as lindsey graham said i'm a member of congress he said maybe we need to consider that when we look at free speech and these kinds of actions because that is the outcome regardless of what the intentions are. of the religion of islam there is a reality in that reality which is more important protect free speech or
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protect the koran. i think as americans our first responsibility is of course outpolled a constitution and again i don't see those two things as at odds i think the challenge really for us as americans is to show what is the reality in the states and that terry jones is not important he really didn't generate a lot of publicity most people will shrug their shoulders and moved on those people were not preoccupied by what you did or said and most people in the muslim world again really did not seem to affected by his decision to burn the koran so when we see reports of people on the ground in afghanistan saying death to america thanks we condemn that america burn the koran and we want these people brought to justice you say that that's an accurate or that's a distortion or. no of course it's happening and it has to be acknowledged it is happening and these are our people on the ground are behaving and it's not excusable it's not something that we can simply walk away from at the
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same time i think we have to understand that the war in afghanistan is the actual cause and the koran burning is just a pretext i'm sure people who are opposed to america's mission in afghanistan would have found some other pretext if not the koran burning in order to get people riled up and get people angry and say the same war the topping here is a greater war against islam and out the kind of thing that gets people riled up and that's where we have to do a better job as americans of explaining that freedom of speech is not meant to insult religions it's meant to protect religion whose job is that what needs to be done. i think more american politicians need to step forward and make that clear i also think american muslim leaders can do more work to make that clear and to make people understand that the purpose of freedom of speech and freedom of religion is in part to protect religion because when religion and politics get mixed it's bad for religion it's bad for politics and if people understood that about america then
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i think they would have a different image of america not a society that opposed to religion but this idea that gives people freedom of religion in order to protect religion is that optimistic in a world where as you mentioned the united states is at war and several muslim countries now. i don't think that's overly optimistic i think that if we look at what's happening on the ground in many muslim countries that egypt and tunisia libya and syria and yemen and bahrain what happened just about ten years ago in indonesia the world's largest muslim country we saw similar movements i just hating for democracy for freedom of religion for freedom of speech and by no means are these perfect by no means are these conclusive but at the same time it seems like the overwhelming majority of arabs and muslims want freedom of speech and freedom of religion and they want an end to dictatorship all right well i want to thank you for kind of making that tough call as she waits and this case that you think needs to be protected more of that with her in mobile director for the islamic center in
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new york university. and from free speech actions targeting muslims on u.s. soil to a green light for fresh attacks on the muslim world abroad u.s. president barack obama has approved the use of predator drones in libya this according to secretary of defense robert gates who made this announcement tonight at a pentagon briefing now after the news gates also tweeted he said this regime change was always a political goal complicated works best when done from inside and always takes time here we go and general cartwright tweets armed predator is uniquely suited for urban areas to minimize collateral damage now that first drone mission was scheduled for today in libya but scratched out of poor weather you may recall the use of drones has been a point of contention between washington and islamabad a point of contention because of civilian casualties as well meanwhile precious metals are getting more precious but why gold prices have been soaring to record
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highs after jumping above fifteen hundred dollars an ounce for the first time yesterday it's trading at above fifteen hundred dollars today take a look at the trajectory the blue line going up now look at the dollar that's a lot going flat lining and going down now when we talk about precious metals copper has also risen silver has surged and you see the dollar it's calling to multi-year lows so what is this about this is about the decline in the u.s. greenback the global reserve currency not to mention well joining me for more is charles goyette he's author of this new york times best selling book the dollar meltdown i think i have an idea of ways they think so mr gore yet what do you think is going on with gold is this surging as high as a result of concern over the u.s. dollar. well you could say that but the truth is that the value of gold is more or less holding steady and it's the value of paper currencies that are not denominated in gold the us fall into the purchasing power of bull over the long period will stay more or less the same with the purchasing power of the dollar as you know from
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filling up your gas tank and as you know from going grocery store the purchasing power of the u.s. dollar is falling as are all the paper currencies of war i five are not partisan power what about concern over with and that's terrorist with central banks with governments over the dollar is that reflected and they rise and called in comparison to the fall of the dollar if it's very clear that the republicans and democrats in washington are not to equal to the challenges ahead of us they cannot solve the problem and so economic inspector economic events are on the briber see that this thing will unfold in a very unfortunate matter because you know you get for example the ryan plan abouts balancing the budget here in the united states we're talking about balancing the budget twenty sticks fierce down the road twenty six years so none of this stuff is serious in our rampart came up with that you have proposal to cut five hundred billion dollars from a annual spending would still leave this country with
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a one point one trillion dollar deficit so none of these proposals nobody in washington seems to really understand the scope of the problem and the u.s. dollar is getting squeezed now not only internationally as you mentioned the reserve currency of the world you've got central banks around the world that are disinvesting in from the dollar bilateral multilateral grievance to get trade out of the dollar and into their currencies at the same time to a mess typically there is a movement afoot in several of the states across the land to work and do something to protect states citizens i built the dollar the mise en and to re monetize gold and so we're going to walk past the state of utah to that effect just recently so it it's records. and you do see the circumvention of the dollar even just recently with the brics the largest emerging countries needing to work out trade deals in their own currency it's certainly a trend but what really is going to be the tipping point because still you don't see any kind of mass movement to replace the dollar is the reserve currency so how
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realistic is that as an outcome. yeah it's actually happening before our very eyes and you know you know we saw things like it was a year or so ago the central bank of india which normally the central banks hold dollars as a reserve currency and issued their own currencies against their dollar old it's a central bank of india just as an example this hoarded two hundred metric tons of bull i mean a bigger part of worth of dollars to a replace it with but when you can be a better example here in the united states university of texas has one of the largest economic adama it's in the in the world and they moved the they now own a billion dollars worth of gold with these thought blotted out and albertsons never used to think about touching something like we'll now even what's more important the university has decided not to leave its gold in the institutions in the positive or in the commodity exchange but to actually take physical to libya and
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this is a trend that is going on around who are around the country counterparty risk government risk or has people concerned around the world so it seems like it's in slow motion if you but if you fast for a couple of years a dollar will be very very different so that's part of the players what do you think a couple years on the dollar longer be the reserve currency are they going to give much longer term. and i've written about this in my book the dollar melt down because you know that foreign central bankers understand this the dollar will not last is the reserve currency of the world those days are over and you know timothy geithner goes to china and he tells beijing university students all the dollars fine everything's fine and they will have to happy but here the other day as you know standard ports gives a negative problem most of america's aaa bond rating and. nobody in the united states really seems to understand the impact of what's who are not so central bankers of the world know what's going on the american people are the ones that will be victimized by this and those are the people for whom i've written this book so they can protect themselves from government oh ok ok let me let me find out that
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pepper second that with karen part negative outlook there's a lot of people are you going about with political apathy that watching. to deal with of deficits that's one argument another issue is that it wasn't a downgrade the u.s. had a aaa credit rating is still consider the risk free asset and financial models for many people the world over so what really is at stake here the u.s. has not been downgraded even japan has been downgraded and they were doing just fine flying at treasuries after that well let me give you the real answer to the my friends of the financial community and i use this is the real answer really high incidence by the time standard poorest gets it it's too late it's week too late so you know we don't need standard boards and tell us that the united states has one hundred trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities and there is no mechanism whatsoever by which the those obligations can be going to this is so this is just hard past accounting right but let me ask you that as long as the u.s.
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is the global reserve currency and just print its way out of debt is this an issue the u.s. can continue to run the death and deficit as long as the dollar is the reserve currency no they really can't because nobody is forced to keep the dollars the reserve currency look right now today the federal reserve is now this is moves the federal reserve is now the largest holder of u.s. government debt and it used to be japan used to be china now it's the federal reserve with china buys us never meant that they do so openly and use real resources real stuff to make real things that the cost of real labor to sell to us to earn money to buy our debt to fund our debts when the federal reserve now the largest holder of united states government did when it buys that it does so with money that didn't exist in order to show us gated up the rest of the world sees us they're not obligated to keep funding our debts or to keep holding us dollars and nobody else to do i get they still are. well i mean that they are you know they are today but you know it's like five or six guys stand around
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a room look at the exit trying to you know nobody wants to spook the other guy would be the first one help the door but i mean this is what look here's what happens what it becomes difficult for us several of the front steps it starts it starts offering higher returns interest rates go up that kills the domestic economy and shills of the sense of a recovery but the government is not like you and me when you buy your lamborghini the you know you you have to look at the interest payment you say well ok i can afford a lamborghini i'm willing to save her i don't and i do it does it doesn't matter to the government the government has the borrowed money in the interest rate and you will note that all of these projections about the budget of the united states going forward the deficit going forward whether from the republican camp or the democrat here all of these projections come with its rules use an article about interest rates sitting down here forever it's just not well and simple like tax looking at the technical chart interest rates are due for a crack if you just look at historical right i want to ask you how much do you
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blame the federal reserve for what's happened with the dollar they have been having a massive debt by that program as you mentioned with i think it easing up the last two years was under the radar but now it's pretty well it widely known about. then publicized but how much do you think that that's responsible for what's going on. the federal reserve has destroyed ninety six for ninety seven percent nothing about this and it destroyed ninety six or ninety seven percent of the dollar's purchasing power in the in the west one hundred years that they've been a real i mean if you had a family company your great grandfather started the engine and you had managers that turned it over to you today and it was worth forty percent of what it was when the company was was created you fire up and we keep the same guys in charge they have not solved the problem since the mortgage meltdown they have passed the buck to the american people and we will all see higher prices at the grocery store and at the gas station so want to pay for the errors and the money poured into but the
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reserve we have a really really i hate say it we have a theory of it that's not a picture of i want to thank you for painting and that was charles goyette author of the new york times best selling book the dollar meltdown. still ahead here on our team how do you protect yourself from an out of control government only group of the lesser men believe they have the answer that's coming up next. thought. or we are broke. and yes i am so.
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what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through get through it it may who can you trust no one. is you there with a global mission every city where are we having state controlled capitalism is called fascism when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more. into only a military mechanism if you don't work to bring justice or. i have every right to know what my government's doing you want to know why i pay taxes. i would characterize obama as
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a charismatic sort. of american exceptionalism. welcome back well yesterday we took a look at americans who openly carry their guns were ever they go to exercise their rights and normalize them a first time gun owners arms aren't just for carrying they're for keeping government tyranny and track artie's kalen fort has more. travis fox never leaves home without a loaded gun if it is between someone else or my family someone else is going to die carried openly on his belt. for fox militia is a state of mind and gun control a carte blanche then the government has absolutely no fear of repercussions and they can essentially do whatever they want and government is meant to be kept in check the definition of tyranny is that which is lawful for government but is
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illegal or unlawful for the citizenry the government has. jet fighter planes they have from machine guns they have howitzers they have tanks they have nuclear aircraft carriers. the militia today. we are left with semiautomatic handguns and semi-automatic rifles that's as part of the three percent a militia with its own flag plenty of guns and a manifesto that proclaims it only takes three percent of gun owners to overthrow the government thanks carol last year on the banks of the potomac with a warning to those in power quote attempts to further oppress us at your own peril people here to send you to work will then begin. for your. stupid failure to comprehend the real situation that we are all in and sends a message that they won't back down americans are your increasingly.
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pre-service and. more it subjects. more and more of america's eighty four million gun owners say they're tired of compromising on their right to bear arms three percent refused to follow any new gun control laws we all have a right. and every president wayne la pierre recently moved closer to the three percentage when he refused president obama's invitation to even discuss new gun laws saying quote why should i or the n.r.a. sit down with a group of people that have spent a lifetime trying to destroy the second amendment in the united states president clinton with the last president to tackle gun control with the one thousand nine hundred four i thought bachmann's bear which by his own estimate the cost of party twenty feet in the subsequent election i went to present twelve presidential race looming paklin gun control now might also prove a misfire for president obama and ford are the washington d.c. . now earlier i spoke with jim to cognac he is
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a militia man himself and host of freedom fighter radio he told me how the government is making him pay for his god given right that doesn't like my county columbia county georgia requires you to have one in order for me to carry a concealed weapon in my case it's my choice forty five to a seventy five and ninety five dollars for a concealed weapon permit that means i'm having to pay for a god given right to a gym your website says that it's becoming clearer and clearer that if this country doesn't wake up and life as america life in america as we know will cease to exist it sounds like this is about more than just guns it's about a vigorous perception of threat to a way of life what are you concerned about well concerned about the redistribution of wealth i'm concerned about how america is becoming a socialized nation and then i ask you about that let me ask you about redistribution of wealth because this is that if this is a socialized nation all of the data coming out shows that the income distribution
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is the greatest divide it's been in eighty years that the wealth of the top one percent and a divide between that income and everybody else is the greatest in eighty years if there is a redistribution of wealth going on it doesn't really seem to. know there are tipping it like ok for instance if you look at the regular administration when the rich have more tax breaks on floor from being wealthy they were more jobs out there taxing the rich and penalizing you for being the is not the solution in fact if you want to if you set everybody a hundred thousand dollars or more at a hundred percent rate you'd only be able to run the government for forty five months old what is the solution well the solution is that i believe in budget cuts we've got to put america first notes of storage see what happened in japan but for a has become secondary to the needs of america well it doesn't mean the biggest problems are you know some of. a good chunk of the budget are entitlement and
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defense spending when you cut defense spending then the defense spending i believe can actually because and still keep the same amount of weapons design well i worked in the defense industry for harrah's corporation with government contracts on the stealth bomber programs for weapons and eighty and i can tell you the ways that they put in there i mean you could look like you've heard a few thousand dollar two hundred this is not far fetched i personally witnessed that they can be more efficient which is spending and make they can actually reduce the fence mending and still increase the amount of weapons i want to go to jim jim let me ask you one question just to get back to a dish the idea of moving towards socialism so is your real concern that they're going to raise taxes on the wealthy and that that's the move toward socialism that there and bush tax cuts for the wealthiest americans it's not just its. ability to criticize your government how exacting limited ok well for instance government agencies are coming out to using local agencies expressing our first amendment
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right to primarily with the motivated is that middle of that on a local level or do you think on a broader level because we see even this weekend this friday a rally to the highly contentious in dearborn michigan where someone who would burn a koran is going to have a protest against what he perceives as the threat of shari'a and jihad and chances are he's going to be able to do it regardless of how people feel because of free speech because free speech in this country is so project it but with not being reported what you didn't address you may not be aware of i'm no you're referring to pastor terry jones of gainesville board of the christian outreach center and i was not as on the phone at the office the other day they are trying to make him pay what he dish will security that's what's not being reported making him responsible for the additional security may mean very good gotta pay for the right. this speech you have to say is this costing us all the cuts so you know the burning of the
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koran is not buying it is the book i do i believe in the bible i'm not an attack on perverting the bible the violence is those that would attack one for merely burning an inanimate object those are the dangerous people terry jones is being pressured by michigan dragged into court been forced to pay a bomb and i am not being forced i don't think that has happened i know that there is that but that the transfer that pressure on him ok and the state department i mean the pentagon state department labeling him a threat endangering american troops overseas to concede burn a koran you know there's nothing we can do that will make us hated any more unless we submit to truly a law and shari'a law is a threat to america and we already see what's happening in europe england should be the canary in a coal mine under threat of shari'a law well that's not a highly debated issue and i don't think that i think a lot of people disagree with it and i just it sounds like a lot of it boils down to money that you feel like you shouldn't have to pay money
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to register your guns you should have to pay money to protest the rights that are in the constitution are being limited because you have to pay fees to. placing right in the privilege and that's the bottom line why becoming privileges like word of government we're going to give you the opportunity to carry a gun no i like in some states open carry should be if you are not a felon you have a committed a violent felony every american citizen should be allowed to carry a firearm ok there are some places that see that firearms are there liberty for the people good i've always said it again and again the safest community in the world is in my state. and as you heard since this interview a dearborn judge did rule that pastor terry jones should have to pay one hundred thousand dollars up to that in bonds to have that protest where he wants to that was the host of freedom fighter radio and that is going to do it for now for more on the stories we cover go to our t. .
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