welcome back to the big picture i'm sorry coming up in this half hour it's a story about power money and the wonderfulness of greed iran's film adapted bestselling novel atlas shrugged is now in second week at the box office so is it here in the us plus throw it out that old computer monitor may do more harm than you know details on how each crash is not only destroying american landfills but also killing people in third world countries and it seems like there's a copycat among republican governors and i severely take how scott walker wants to pass these same city stripping legislation as michigan's rick snyder.

last week the movie atlas shrugged opened in theaters across the country the first part of a trilogy based on iran's novel atlas shrugged written back in one nine hundred fifty seven to go to the. sea can't afford to allow the expansion of the company which produces too much of it looks like steel mills they are not getting my medal or find a way to fix rather alyssa rosen bob in a russian immigrant to change her name to iran when she came to america based several of her novels heroes on a serial killer she fawned over as a superman her word because as she wrote of howard roark the hero of her book the fountain head quote he was born without the ability to consider others and quote that serial killer william edward had been kidnapped murdered and dismembered a twelve year old girl in one nine hundred twenty seven around the time rand was developing your philosophy and writing your first book. rand wrote about serial killer hitmen quote other people do not exist for him and he does not see why they

should he has no regard for all the society hold sacred a consciousness all his own he has the true innate psychology of a super man why because rand wrote he can never feel other people this idea that human society should be run by an unfeeling elite of producers or modern republicans called job creators the rest was called c.e.o.'s millionaires struck quite a chord particularly among young people just sitting adolescents what if what if selfishness is the ultimate virtue and society should be run by superman whose only goal is to make money like this comment from the hero of the movie. let me say you're in trouble here rofl your only goal is to make money goalies to make money. there you go rand went on to say that caring for others is moral cannibalism her words and the people who do good things for reasons other than making money are

again her words lice parasites and looters that here's what she told mike wallace a few years before she died while living on social security and taking medicare money to treat her lung cancer. right every important moral leader in men's history as taught us that we should love one another why is this kind of love if you're behind the bar it is immoral because they are month and then if a man is weak or a woman is weak then she is beyond he is beyond he said he does not this is what he said needs a young there are very few of us then in this world by your standards allowed worthy of love unfortunately they. so would society really be better if we were all selfish and those among us who are both the smartest and the most selfish rose to the ultimate power trampling the rice and the parasites. manda kerry saw the movie she's a reporter of the daily caller she joins me now to share her take on it was for amanda i see again i think having me thanks for joining us do you really think that

if all the c.e.o.'s went on strike the society would collapse i mean this is the basic promise of the book and movie i think in the alice our society yes and it obviously i think. the modern world today is obviously very different so i don't know if this is the idea of a collapse but i think that the narrative as she said is very realistic. while if you have a produces this idea that one for some morning everyone at the bottom there are sort of accepting. the jobs there or you know you have you have people at the top the c.e.o.'s and millionaires paying into the system and sort of supporting everyone at the bottom if you have all that taken away and they just shrug and they aren't producing anything there are not contributing to society and if you don't have anyone else pick up the slack and you know society is going ok so we've got you know health care for example steven cherry hemsley runs the first five years in the job he took four hundred seventy seven million dollars before him for ten years

took one point seven billion dollars are you seriously telling me that if these two guys went away that there wouldn't be somebody who would step in and do the job for say. i know that's it and. you know it is not true of every i mean what if all five hundred of the c.e.o.'s of the fortune five hundred companies went on strike don't you think that there would be somebody in each one of those companies smart enough to step in take the job and probably do it for half of what they're being paid i don't know if they were different from where they're being paid for my experience people that you know except a job from someone in front of them sort of demand the same pay scale and this is sort of how the society works is how do. you know if the c.e.o. level it's it's not like competition it's like the old boy network because they get these committees on their board that they themselves appoint. it's sort of that in nature ok selfishness ok our bodies are our for example you know

we're part of nature we're here we are in the eyes are our bodies are our incredible collections of cooperation at liverpool operates with the kidneys the can is cooperate with the internals you know water bottle and if one organ rises up or one bunch of souls rises up and says i'm going to be selfish i'm going to take over everything i'm going to water all it's called cancer why would it be any different society if if if if if if a small group of people or a new individual rises up and says i'm going to get it all why is that cancer if not when i enter and is talking about i mean she's not she's not talking about only if you have one person rising up and taking it all then obviously you can't do that unless you're trampling on those people's rights and if you're using force that you there's no way to know morally i didn't you know the only the only workers i saw in that movie people were in and handing goblets of wine to the stars i mean it was basically you know every scene was in and i thought well here and this screenplay

and you know how that movie would in the novel i read the novel in the novel does very few workers to i mean it's simply basically you're talking like very blue collar yeah yeah i can all those i'm over the ridge being more a part of her narrative and don't you find it ironic that the woman who's the star of the movie end of the novel inherited her money and legacy they want to put chee and heritage and the guy who she ends up having the affair with is married now i realize that iran had an open marriage and she had a whole bunch of wild right and that gets into the very deep levels of objectivism which is her whole philosophy and i don't even know i don't know if you want to go that far and quite familiar you know a lot of people and that's why mike wallace said you want to destroy christianity or history or car or society and she said yes they found my like that without started delving into the context of them or looking guy you know and their philosophy. and people sort of get these conceptions of honor and how she's extreme and she's you know this really sort of she really a whole person well i mean i wouldn't say she's evil but i think she's associate

she's extreme in that she has views that i think that a lot of people i mean there are attack that will cause i know a lot of objectivist people and i do to you know not to none of them go on that you know rants about how they want to destroy religion or sanity even the most objective serious i mean that's right it's a together in a very good job but they're not out looking to destroy woodley's and all the you know joe bickles to try to convert other people i mean look at all the money he's poured into into the fire is foundations that are promoting iran's works we just just a minute left. a lot of the flies i mean there's been an anti iran novel written lord of the flies i think there's been a real life and so i am around experience when the ology went down to karen island you know. what was his name his last it was christiansen with nine other guys took over the island divided up the land and within four years the only man left alive was a guy named john adams he killed everybody they started fighting among each other

and the women that they had brought from to hear a lot over the food i mean is there any society in the world that you can point to where iran's ideas have ever been put into place and it didn't lead to disaster i don't think that they have ever been in a place where he could maybe and then very. beginning stages of maybe united states maybe you could argue. but no i don't remember and i don't think i don't think they've ever been and implemented and i mean isn't in an anarchist as far as i'm aware and i've read heard her works extensively and i think that she advocates her government a government with a very limited to enforce contracts only to enforce contracts and protect rights yeah i guess you're right and and that's actually fairly in line with that with mainstream conservatism. he and i know and that's the thing to see from speech so much amanda thank you for coming in it's conversation with a probably have

a half million thank you very much iran's philosophy is aggressively embraced and promoted by wealthy funders of foundations that distribute your ideas and books funders who include the koch brothers by coincidence and while they are of world view was considered by republicans during the arrows of nixon eisenhower it's openly embraced today by republicans like paul ryan the guy who just wrote the budget passed by all but for republicans in the house of representatives that's the budget that cuts food stamps for poor people while cutting taxes for billionaires ran requires that all of his congressional staffers read atlas shrugged americans meet your new rulers unless you're a billionaire in which case you may well be one of them. speaking of only caring about profits as our society becomes more and more technologically advanced one question hardly anybody asks is what happens to that old computer junk and technology want to get thrown out the e.p.a.

has studied this issue and found that four point six million tons of easy way he sed ends up in u.s. landfills every year releasing toxic chemicals into the air and the ground. either that or they get incinerated releasing even more toxic gases into the air but there's also another place where each waste is going the third world developing nations in asia and africa are routinely recipients of thousands of tons of old computers cell phones wiring these devices can have balliol but very poisonous minerals inside them like cadmium lead and other rare earth minerals and their routinely cannibalized and sold on graham markets around the globe often killing local populations who don't realize the danger of the stuff they're working with sixty minutes that investigation into american eat waste overseas and found poor people playing in these landfills or even working in recycling operations with

nothing to protect them from being poisoned many have died so is this something we should be concerned about is there a better way of dealing with the tons of waste that we dispose of every year joining me now is the libertarian vice presidential candidate in two thousand and eight and author of numerous books his most recent the conscience of a libertarian and power in the citizens revolution with guns it was god guns gambling and tax cuts when root wayne welcome to the program. and see you but i can't hear you. saying it's not working your audio is not turned so. yeah ok well just it will just move along your way and perhaps we can get back to it we're going to see how it works coming up in tonight's daily take scott walker sure knows how to kick and when they're down now he wants to do financial control over cities in wisconsin why does this sound familiar.

let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think on the eve of one well. whenever the government says to the keep you safe get ready because their freedom.

you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sleek you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here so you see some of the part of it and realized everything you saw you don't i'm sorry the big picture. fit.

into that only one which would make you do the work to bring justice or would. i have every right to know what my government would you want to know why i paid taxes. well i would characterize obama as the charismatic. of american exceptionalism. and welcome back and back with us wayne root the two thousand and eight vice presidential candidate for the libertarian party and the author of conscience of a libertarian empowering the citizen revolution with god guns gambling and tax cuts wayne welcome back a time can you hear me now i hear you now there you go and this is not a bad cell phone commercial ok wayne is the world is the rest of the world we

talked in the set up here about how we're sunny a ways to all over the world and it is actually literally kill. people particularly children and young people who have no i or people who are working with it and have no idea what cadmium even is as they're trying to extract it and little bits of gold and things you know from cell phones and computers and whatnot is the rest of the world are garbage dump. well i guess my answer is that the only other alternative piece you spend billions of dollars us special recycling states to see here are the same computer parts and that would cost a lot more cost american consumers tremendously more to buy the computers which probably will result in job losses here in america and people in those foreign countries who want those jobs will never those jobs anymore so i think will be a loss only around to try and solve this problem the way that i assumed you would as a little someone to spend lots of body and put new regulations on american business what i would say wayne is that if if by creating a computer or from creating

a cellphone you're creating a piece of talk all the way a piece of toxic waste that when that becomes toxic waste that's what's called an externality in business you know the difference between internalized profits externalize costs that's actually reality it's a cost and what these companies are doing is they're basically dumping their costs either in third world countries or on us if they just incinerator put in a landfill and we get sick from it so i would say to these companies when you produce this product we know in advance what it's going to cost to dispose of it and by the way that would be a whole new industry to hire lots of people you're going to pay for the externalities you're going to pay for the cost what's wrong with that that just seems rational to me that a company pay for the whole cost of the product not just the profitable part and dump the externalities on we to people like you know i'm always says as i am rand would say you were discussing atlas shrugged i'm

a realist solomon in the real world i think rich nations puts at some point things above money and that's america we put jobs and money near the top we put safety and kids get it yes or above that but other countries who are poor put jobs and money to keep people from starvation above health for their citizens that's just the way . the world and so it's a pretty perfect situation where people of america build the items and then ship them overseas to people who need jobs or they would starve to death i think the clear would tell you they want the jobs they're very clear about that some day we can be here become a rich station health above those jobs and they'll build those plants that b.p. built but right now i think it's working for both sides are those people lose their jobs if there was demand for nuclear waste and people in india didn't know it was harmful would you feel comfortable selling it to block say you what is your plan right now look lance you've got workers there's

a big story that you're caught for the right amount of money they're going in there in protective suits but they're exposed themselves to tremendous amounts of radiation but their families would starve if they didn't have those jobs and so in a capitalist society you will offer the highest price the rain will wane handles the second there those guys are not doing i know i've worked in japan i've done business in japan i'm familiar with japanese culture one of my very best friends is japanese lives in tokyo right now i've been corresponding daily about this for ever since three eleven the is what they refer to it those guys are not going into those situations because they got paid enough they're going to those situations there's a whole you know a whole variety of human reasons i mean some of them are actually people with with serious diseases some of them are just people with an incredible sense of obligation their country this is a country whose spider pilots during world war two would would dive into the decks of american. carriers they're willing to die for their nation this has not the fukushima workers the daiichi workers in no case that i know of

and i've seen the japanese press reports as well are doing what they're doing because of money. well you're tie story to get they were but that that's what gets straying off course the reality is america it's up you got construction sites where i personally would not work you know i worked hard i studied i got straight a's i went to club university and i'm a businessman now successful i don't have to work a construction site my kids don't have to work it so now you and your kids can just dump your toxic waste on somebody who wasn't as portion it is you who didn't who wasn't a member of the lucky sperm club and wasn't a lot of white and in america some of the members of the club my grandfather died were going to the hospital my father died of which are in the end in a capitalist society people take jobs according to their need and there's nothing wrong with a situation here where he out to sit those parts to a country like india that's desperately poor and needs the money and eats the jobs in america it keeps the prices low it encourages others to buy new computers

quickly when they believe use theirs for a year or two which creates even more jobs what you are suggesting would in my opinion he'll jobs in america will people of serbia in other countries who desperately need to work that's how the free market works and no i'm not a liberal bleeding heart liberal correctness chain i get it and i get it that you believe it and i think it's just the most well the oddest thing but but i but i appreciate your just you know being right up front about it thanks so much for for being with us when it's back it grew from a good time. the world is now. just. it's the good the bad and the very unbelievably oddly the good movie i am and me

you are watching oprah yesterday you would have seen a clip of me during oprah's interview with tom shadyac the director of the film oprah played the one clip i would most would have wanted to have been on the oprah winfrey show by the way the movie's expanding and playing in more theaters but i am the movie dot com the shift has hit the fan. the bat republican congressman darrell issa yesterday on the one year anniversary of the b.p. oil spill the small time crook turned richest man in congress took to his twitter page and said this. not a group is actually. the missing the quote. ok not exactly the gulf coast is still reeling from two hundred million barrels of oil washing on the shores thanks to failed government oversight of will corporations right and as chairman of the oversight committee instead of pushing for more regulations you're doing the exact opposite as when corporations like b.p.

what regulations you should go after. and the very very ugly gary johnson the former governor of new mexico announced he's running for president someday to kick off the campaign he's spewing some really radical stuff i guess he's just trying to fit in with the feel in an interview think progress johnson had this insight about the nullification. fifty seven issues are getting launched a mediation is the function of if in getting people to become more aware as a result of the notification to the rates that states do open the ability to. i mean this is really a formula and it just gets back to the constitution. that really is the formula for writing of iraq. he also went after child labor laws saying they prevent kids from gaining his words and understanding of and earning money and providing a good or a service. so this guy thinks that notification which trickled the triggered civil

war is a great idea and the laws to protect the exploitation of children is a bad idea is obviously a bad choice for the country but a perfect choice for the republican party and that's frankly very very ugly. governor governor scott walker the guy who threw the first pitch in this game by going after unions is stealing a page from michigan's governor rick snyder's playbook and try to pass legislation in wisconsin that would give him power to take over cities in his state that are struggling financially last week we learned that the city of benton harbor in michigan was taken over by one of governor snyder's financial managers or czars appointed by snyder to set up shop in a city fire all the elected officials break union contracts cut critical local

services and sell off huge chunks of the city's infrastructure to transnational corporations on top of that another one to snyder's financial planners is closing down eight schools in detroit and selling off another forty five schools to charter companies or c.e.o.'s can make millions off exploiting the education of our kids and those schools being closed down is the catherine ferguson academy a school specifically designed to cater to pregnant and parenting teens and their children schools feature on oprah for having a ninety percent graduation rate and a one hundred percent college acceptance after graduation rate mind bogglingly impressive numbers and not a good enough for the republican rick snyder who wants to shut it down. hearing what snyder is doing must have made scott walker jealous because he's trying to do the same thing now in wisconsin fact back in two thousand and nine he admitted he was hell bent on eliminating local governments that he didn't agree with take

a look we believe if they don't they do because people or at the state legislature the governor don't give us the tools for those major reforms it's probably time for us to seriously consider looking at the possibility of a limited county government and replacing it with something better that's a combination of replacing county with government was something better like a corporation so first walker goes after the unions at the behest of billionaires like the koch brothers and republican john k. sick in ohio and rick snyder in michigan follow suit busting up unions in their states then chris christie in new jersey starts flashing education funding to pay for enormous tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires and tax dodging corporations and sure enough walker case each snyder and rick scott in florida all proposed the same thing luckily the one thing that these republicans anticipated the one thing that made all these guys think they could get away with this grand

theft of our nation is not coming true and that one thing is they thought that we the people with the help of hours and hours of misinformation from fox news they thought that we the people would just wall over and take it but that's not happening for republican senators in wisconsin are being we recalled that's just the beginning walker himself could face recall at the start of next year and effort is afoot in michigan to recall governor snyder and america's progressive movement hasn't been this energized in generations these radical republicans have awoken the middle class in america the true believers in a small d. democratic system. and we're not going to let the nation for which we spent centuries dying and fighting to turn into somalia it is a couple hundred oligarchy so the help of some crony politicians not a few billion more in their swiss bank accounts as the old g.i.

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