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markets. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike's concert for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to cause report. hello i'm tom foreman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture republican members of congress are starting to get grilled by their own constituents but leave it to the banks tears on wall street to come to their rescue i'll tell you why there are now paying people to push the g.o.p. agenda plus over seven hundred military documents released by wiki leaks should play embarrassing like i belonged on a mobile a one imprisonment involved a misunderstanding over a casio roots wrist watch and search engine google has been ordered by the spanish
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government to a race links about some spaniards i'll tell you why spanish officials claim they have the right to be forgotten. you need to know this republicans are getting renamed by their constituents in town hall meetings all across the nation the speaker of the house john boehner getting congress to weeks off members set out to reconnect with their districts and defend their votes in support of the paul ryan budget proposal that all the republicans voted for except for the privatizers medicare to pay for massive tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires and many republican congressmen and women received an earful of sheer take a look. we should.
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not vote for war. crimes at the mind. not that violate that there is some funny it will not be to medicare we know whether we are huge we have i like you i like yes it he thought it worked on medicare probably playing back to people who are in there that you are an adult for that they don't have not done that here can i at the said nothing in the campaign that i'm going to change that it now you're here. for plans that will destroy. wealth through your medicare is going to destroy itself that's right place for you guys i . think
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it's excess if this is a wealthy to first. take a right winger for you. but have no fear wall street will save the day a far right wing front group created by wall street banks toure's known as the american action network is reportedly helping shills to it sounds town hall meetings and the republicans their talking points in the audience in the form of super softball questions i guess republicans are trying to avoid the same fate as democrats during the two thousand and nine townhall fiascos in the middle of health reform debate so will work and is that the only way republicans who want to debate through manipulation here offer some more answers on these issues a reporter extraordinary and blogger for think progress lee lee welcome if you have your town great to have you back with us tell us about the american action network oh it's so frank group as you mentioned but it was started just two years ago it's relatively new it was founded. ed gillespie with
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a group of wall street bankers including. ken lang dunn who you're very familiar with but also some other investors from hedge firms private equity firms they came together and founded this group not only to take advantage of citizens united which it rhyme as last year to create kind of studies to boost republican plans to deregulate the economy and here they are working with the grassroots to boost the poll ryan budget which of course cuts taxes on corporations rolls back parts of dodd frank and of course fundamentally change changes and i would say gets rid eliminates what we know as medicare so the so the pot of money that medicare is handling right now goes to wall street the the regulations that are restraining wall street from turning into a total flame you can see you know are done away with and so the banks are is on wall street are funding these guys. are funny people show i'm fascinated by this because. i don't think during the health care debates when and when dick armey was
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sending tea party people into literally scream and shout down democrats back in here a couple years ago that he had even occurred to any democratic strategists that they should plant shills in the audience to as friendly questions about the health care reform surely you know i've talked to a crack strategist in the last few months and i don't even see any basic organizing . not none of it but nasty stuff you saw in two thousand i'm not even like telling their members to go. meet him and town hall that you just showed the lou barletta one the paul ryan incident just a few weeks ago all of these events were actually organic i was in south carolina last week attending several town halls and we didn't see that same type of contentious debate but i didn't see any liberal organizers i didn't see any strategy pamphlets handed out telling people to spread out and yell at the member and stand up and sit down to get him off his bearings incidents imitate him as
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happened during the health as happened in two thousand and ten when you had freedom works americans for prosperity actively paying for dozens of organizers to go out and literally bring birth or it's out all of them just to throw through the whole debate of course by having these kind of fifty second you tube sensational videos some of these are policy questions being asked at these town halls today republican is it is it conceivable the democrats have never done this and haven't even thought about it because they're just you know they just figure hate will just tell the truth and everything will be fine and the republicans are thinking this well in advance planning it throwing millions of dollars into organizing and getting people to do it because they know that if they're real intentions were known to the people that they would be thrown out by the american voters here i mean that's the structural imbalance of politics you know you have very wealthy old interests on the right thinking in the long view and this is the story that you mentioned at the top of the segment where you had american. action network actually formulating
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softball questions for these town halls they had to say this weeks in advance and sending organizers and activists to prep their activists to boost the paul ryan plan and they had this well thought out i imagine both sides after they've seen the headlines for the past week are rushing in to try to. get their side. get their questions asked of these town halls but you know one side was very well prepared for these town halls the other wasn't we have just just maybe twenty seconds left are the really are either republicans or democrats on either side doing the old bush strategy of only allowing members of the party into their town halls or are generally most of these town halls across the country regardless of party right open well this weekend congressman charlie bass republican got real actor who got elected in two thousand and ten actually tried to screen all those questions by sending out. a piece of paper and having people write down a question and having one of the staffers pick the nicest ones out so we're seeing a little bit of that but we'll see there's
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a congress is still out for its break easter break all this week or a lot of out of town halls we'll see what happens it's going to be fascinating lee thanks so much for the great research you've done thanks for having me and for you know getting out there in the field and doing the hard work i hope to be on the road again soon good good luck keep us up to date we'll do a language scene again this is yet another case of republicans using deception to screw the middle class and give tax breaks to the millionaire donors pay no attention to the man behind the curtain and are worth a lot of money and they don't give a damn about the little runts. wiki leaks is back with the scoop on get mo according to more than seven hundred secret military documents released yesterday it appears our nation's strategy with is seriously flawed from high risk detainees are handled teligent is gathered and used in that facility what kind of absurd criteria was used to pick someone up and send them to get one clear picture emerges and that is get screwed up some people were thrown in to get well just because they
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were wearing the wrong type of casio wristwatch you can pretty much pick and choose what get all embarrassment to highlight as a result of this latest wiki leaks released in the in-depth analysis of the day of the documents by the m.p.'s by n.p.r. in the new york times so can the us continue to afford to get open in light of these new revelations for more on this i'm joined by brooke. regular contract columnist for the british newspaper the guardian profile thank you for having me terry great to see you again. i'm curious what do these wiki memos really tell us well this is actually a complete. a little dated on almost all of the seven hundred seventy nine hundred eighty s. that were in guantanamo so we're able to see some of the especially some of the mold level people that were held and then released at least one hundred fifty of the seven hundred seventy nine were completely innocent and the other three hundred eighty absolutely innocent of foot soldiers no level of people most of these people
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have now actually been sent home so they've gone back to places from young men to than we knew they had many of these people because they were released they weren't charged they really couldn't have been much evidence against them in the first place and now we have the documentary evidence from the interrogators themselves with sometimes even questioning why that in the first place as one particular individual was picked up and before he even arrived in guantanamo when he was in afghanistan the interrogators said to him. i don't understand why you're here and yet these men were taken transported held for some as little as two years some are still being held almost ten years now and why this one either sloppiness well i think part of the reason was the us government was the bush administration this particular case was trying to vacuum up anybody they thought that might be of value and what happened was they put out a bounty and said we will pay for people that are you know potential members of al
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qaeda so you've got five thousand dollars ten thousand dollars one thousand dollars in afghanistan it was five years ten years worth of income isn't and the thing his thing is i was there at the time i was in afghanistan in general two thousand and two when they were picking people from these prisons from as i reached the reef from sugar again and went to those prisons i met these men a lot of these people were just you know an educated they were farmers they were people who were looking for jobs that they would jobs some of them would drive you know some of them were just you know students. who were coming to learn about islam and that sort of thing and they got swept up in this thing with somebody said i know there's an arab who's staying on the road or somebody you sometimes want to shop their own maybe i should go and sold them down the road of my brother in law so i want to get five thousand bucks and he goes to jail everybody whether it. why would president obama sign an order keeping these people in prison indefinitely
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well i think it's a political conundrum for him first of all you feel that if you let's any of these people go he's going to get a huge backlash from the republicans and he's right and that is true but i also think that he made a political decision because he felt it was something that you know would get him elected. and i think many of his political promises he has no go because he's looking to get elected again in two thousand and twelve and so. he's a politician i mean the simple is that he's not a man who has promised change he's promised change but he hasn't actually delivered on any and do you think that this this wiki leaks release that just lays bare the inanity of this i mean for example a casio watch thing there's a trick which ever watch that occasionally isn't the watch i'm wearing right now in fact is not the same model but very similar which was occasionally used as a timer for explosive devices were the most common watches that you can buy in any
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market which is probably why it was used at the time or this is easily available but anybody wearing one of these things off they go and there were people who had it up and get more just because they were watching where and that was so once the the banality of the inanity the stupidity the clumsiness the carelessness you know pick your adjective once all of this now that all of this is been exposed do you think it's conceivable the republicans in congress will back off on their on their commitment to his stereo should obama try to do anything that is actually constitutional and legal i don't see either proxy actually backing off and changing the pinions i do think we the public know lockman i think it is up to us you know to say this is wrong but i don't see the democratic party the republican party saying we're going to close down guantanamo bay decided that's politically split about suicide but it's a student of world opinion why i think it it reflects very badly in the united
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states that night the party. deserves a badly in the united states around the bush administration it reflects badly actually both in the bush administration and the obama administration because yes i'm going to use and this is the bit his very first promise when he. when he started office in january of two thousand and nine you know he said he would close guantanamo and now in the last month he signed an all into you know you know basically allowing these men to be held indefinitely so he has failed at the. that promise and many other promises. and there are reasons why he cannot actually live on that but i think he's moving on to the next election it's incredible and you think as a cost issue a scholar i mean this is the six seven paid the men's with solution and. we're out of time i'm sorry thanks so much for being with us through appreciate it and your insights mr wiki leaks don't just confirms what we all suspected isn't working and
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it's time for republicans in congress to stop sabotaging any efforts including those of the president to close it down. it's time for our daily poll your chance to tell us what you think here's the question were republicans stop seven ties the president's efforts to close give all your choices are no even the way you expose that detainees were picked up for wearing casio watches because they could be a timing device or yes republicans will see the light so far every last one of you voted no log on target dot com let us know what you think the poll will be open until tomorrow morning. coming up there's a battle brewing in the mediterranean between google and spain after the break we'll tell you why internet users are demanding they have there is three the legal .
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and get. into that only a military mechanism to do the work to bring justice or accountability. i have a right to know what my government through if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you
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know sometimes you see a story and it seems so. you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't i'm trying hard to see. a landmark internet privacy case is under way in spain google has been ordered by spain's data protection agency to remove links from their search engine to make reference to about ninety spaniards who are claiming the right to be forgotten all sorts of different people in spain want to see their names removed from google
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search results and the spanish government agrees with google is fighting back in court at the heart of this case is whether people have the right to have their names scrubbed off the internet or whether that violates the openness of the internet so is the right to be forgotten on the internet a good idea or a bad idea they're going to call it the staff counsel at assistant director at the open government program with the electronic privacy information center also has a picture and he joins me now to talk about this issue welcome back thank you for having me i got great to see you again first of all what's epix take your organization's take on the right to be forgotten so there's a very interesting issues and look at it here first on one side you have a sort of freedom of expression and freedom of information being able to put centrally post something on another person and then be able to control that post and on the other side you have again some some level of freedom and freedom of expression but you also have that right to be forgotten the privacy of the
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individual on whom that information is being posted so you're setting these up as the arguments are or are you asserting that there actually is a right to be forgotten there is a right to be forgotten and since there are a city we're not it's not it's not to say where does it come from. it would come again derives from that right to privacy but at this point in the us it's only aspirational the fourth amendment says that we have the right to be secure in our private in our papers personal belongings house our home. doesn't say on the internet. but on the other hand there's at least one hundred years of case law i believe that suggests that talking about private individuals in a public venue like a newspaper or on television or radio or whatever can be a violation of their privacy so is is are we at the edge of a precedent here for the internet it could be derived from some sort of defamation or false light tort with the fourth amendment you would have problems if you're
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dealing with a private company though because the fourth amendment only applies to state actors or government and government actors. so you could you bribe this right from from a privacy tort something akin to a nation or libel or false lights or yes or demonstrates you have to demonstrate harm in order to do that would you yes generally or congress could create new statute which is really where we need to see this derive from or from case law carving out this right for people a statute that would create that private right about action with statutory damages to give people control over their own information you know ginger it seems to me the. given that the internet as we know it today is less than a generation old i mean you know twenty years of human generation with. there are a lot of people in their preteens teens. older teens even
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right now who are putting up pictures on their facebook pages when they hit their twenty's in their thirty's and discover they can't get a job because of it or you know what you fill in the blank you know we saw this come up in a recent election with crystal ball who was running for office and virginia where old pictures surfaced that really made her campaign very difficult and they were old pictures taken in a kind of jokey context and then placed up on the internet but the problem with this is that you know the nature of the internet the fact that it makes information both immortal and easily searchable it really takes away people's ability to make mistakes when they're young to have those those moments of making a mistake or to do something stupid or stupidity yeah and they're not all done it yet and not have to haunt them for the rest of their life that's the question that's created by the internet and we're going to do something about this or even adults to put it better safely but we're going to do something about this there's
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going to have to be some sort of statute or case law that fills in this gap i mean we're right right now on the on the precipice because as you point out the fourth amendment only applies to if the government's doing it will stop the government and and. this is fascinating in spain one of the people who is asking so actually several people are people who had been charged with crimes and which was reported in newspapers which got spider to them and then the charges were dropped they were released they were totally cleared but that never made it to the newspaper. my understanding is that in canada and i don't believe it's law you my people correct me on this i know it's policy that you don't name a person who's been arrested you name them when they're convicted media in canada can't really speak to that sorry it seems though that something like that might help or is that i guess that's quite perfect with this but is are these typically the kinds of things that people. conceivable there's that but i mean there's also
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random moments of of human stupidity youthful stupidity or or adult stupidity or just things taken out of context a picture of you at a costume party or at a party and stealing something that may not be appropriate in the wider public audience these sorts of things that you know while it may not be an illegal activity it's an activity that doesn't necessarily reflect well on you especially if you're someone who's trying for a job that requires responsibility or running for political office there's this idea of a practical obscurity and this comes up in those sorts of cases where people are charged where that information might have in fact been reported somewhere publicly at one time it wasn't easily searchable it wasn't the sort of thing that you could just bring up with a quick google search and have that information on for a few minutes and it shouldn't be any longer indra thanks so much for group work thank you you thank. a court ruling isn't expected for several months but could be extremely important to the future of the air. is
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just. it's time for the good the bad and the insanely oddly the good paul krugman the nobel prize winning economist used his new york times column to tell the truth about our nation's deficit and budget plans in the column been pointed out that the only courageous budget being offered up by congress is the progressive caucus is people's budget that raises taxes on the rich raises the social security tax cap and cuts defense spending all policies that will actually reduce our budget deficit to quote him without dismantling the legacy of the new deal which gave us social security and the great society which gave us medicare and medicaid. and of paul krugman is an economist of the people and not a corporate shill trying to advance failed supply side economics i think it's time
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we listened to him more off the bat juan williams the pock so-called news contributor who received a major boost within the network after n.p.r. fired him finally got his dream gig guest hosting the o'reilly factor and williams didn't disappoint his bosses he went after president obama on the show the show's opening to be. president obama is in as a warrior chief is that smart or cynical politics. in this is coming from the supposedly liberal on fox news but leave it to fox to create another fake war the war on the rich drills after a after all what else can they hype. the other eleven months of the year with a war on christmas is not the way oh yeah bill o'reilly just had a war on easter last week anyway very very. a goodly rick santorum trump is courting the burglars santorum is courting the homophobes the likely
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republican presidential candidate went after gay marriage over the weekend is a culture war time already asked whether or not gays deserve equal rights santorum had this response. well it depends what you mean by rights i mean if you're talking benefits as far as rights i mean they have the right to be able to you know their employment i mean i don't i don't know what you mean by rights and if what i'm talking about are privileges here privileges of of marriage privileges of government benefits is a different thing than basic rights to be able to live their lives that as they well should and can as as free americans you know rick this is not semantics it's simple should people in america be second class citizens because their sexual orientation you seem to think so and that's very very. i mean up a study out a u.c. berkeley reveals wal-mart can and should be rolling out more money for their underpaid workers details and how much it would cost them and how much it would cause you as
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a shopper. for. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear see some of the part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry this is the.
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blog about the big picture i'm tom hartman coming up in this half hour a detroit high school with a ninety percent graduation rate and one hundred percent college acceptance rate is set to close its doors for good us to cut down spending costs i'll tell you who's behind is through the scheme plus wal-mart may be known for offering oregon deals to the american consumer the retail giant is really putting their employees in a tough financial bill so good offering employees fair pay also placed wal-mart in a financial pinch answer may surprise you and remember brett ben bernanke he's grand stimulus plan yeah the one who was supposed to be the jumper cables to our debt economy in finance until you take details on how it actually deepened our debt
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and fiscal problems. over the last few weeks we've been chronicling just how far michigan governor rick snyder is willing to go to appease corporate interests and undermine democracy in is two weeks ago we learned that the city betting arbor in michigan was taken over by one of governor snyder's financial managers are appointed by snyder to set up shop in the city. why are all the elected officials great keening contracts cut critical local services and sell off huge chunks of the city's infrastructure to trans national corporations or local republican businessman but now there's another story coming out of detroit surrounding another one to some matters financial planners a guy named robert not to cut.

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