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oh i'm tom foreman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture. president obama reveals his long form birth certificate proving his u.s. citizenship yeah like we didn't know this three years ago when he was elected president so with this revelation will the donald finally shut up plus the state of vermont is just a signature away from adopting a first of its kind health care system it would allow one insurance company the state of vermont to handle all state residents so is this the better option versus
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obamacare meanwhile the little people continue to get screwed by the huge corporations i'll tell you how if the supreme court today your right to fight back against small rip offs from giant corporations was just stripped away by the five conservative justices. you need to know this vermont is becoming one step closer to becoming the first state to set up a truly universal single payer health care system the robot senate passed a new health care bill yesterday following the footsteps of the state house put passed the bill last month now it just needs to be signed into law by governor peter shumlin he's already expressed his support for the measure there is one last step mom would need to secure
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a waiver to opt out of obamacare in order to build its own health care system and full lawmakers of introduce legislation to allow states in particular vermont to drop out of obamacare if they prove they can cover just as many people with insurance as the law would have added without adding to the deficit. but surprise surprise republicans now don't like the idea that's right after bashing obamacare for two years they don't want to let states. this happen to their whole states rights for that only apply to stuff like abortion and gay marriage and not to giving people free health care for more on the efforts by progressives in vermont to change the way our nation delivers health care i'm joined by said johnny porter a blogger for think progress has been following this topic closely said welcome back thank you for having me tom great to have you with us. first of all obamacare i'm calling it obamacare now because i discovered last week that the republicans when they went back into their districts none of them refer to it as obamacare anymore they're calling it the if they don't call it the affordable care act or
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call it some five letter acronym so i think we should embrace it i think president obama should embrace it what do you think you know i think that's absolutely right i mean imagine of social security today was called f.d.r. care or democratic care you know i think people would really enjoy the democrats really enjoyed having that so i think l.b.j. medicare you know exactly it's called obamacare in ten years people really like it and. i adopted first people thought it was crazy we'll see any one of the details of this planet again so basically were mine is trying to do is basically create a health care system sort of like what we have for the elderly americans in this country which is medicare basically what they want to do is they want to have one share something like their version of medicare cover everyone in the state doing that actually would save the state billions of dollars like it basically by having one insurance company instead of having you know hundreds of them you'd cut down on paperwork you cut down on the profit motive which is what private insurance companies used to drive costs you could down the bureaucracy of having to fight for care and you'd let doctors do their job in
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a very simple manner without having to fight with hundreds of different shares to get the paperwork to cover their patients so basically they would be saving their state billions of dollars by moving to a much more efficient health care system that covers everyone that's guaranteed as the as the governor said they want to become the first state where health care is a right not a privilege and they've been doing it for a lot less than what we're paying. right now i used to live in vermont i lived there for about a decade and i remember we lived in montpelier which is state capital all nine thousand people office and i remember when bernie sanders was a congressman and first organized the first buses on saturday mornings for. mostly older people to take a bus up to mont. just about a three hour drive to buy prescription drugs and the state would say there are two wouldn't they be able to the bulk buy drugs i believe you know exactly and they'd be able to negotiate better rates but hospitals and providers this is doc areas i mean when you have that large pool pool there's a lot of things that you can do with it that you can have when you have you know if you hunt profit diminish parents companies all doing their own thing around it when
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you have a public service just like any other public service so here we have peter shumlin the good governor actually ran on this and and you know i knew him back when he was in the legislature the money's a good guy and he's been and he's going to be a great governor you have both the senate the house has passed very close versions that there's no doubt the reconcile woman probably next week someone will get this thing and sign it but the current law the current incarnation of obamacare which provides for this which a lot of people thought was a bad thing i think was one of those really and things that president obama did this. doesn't actually take effect until two thousand and seventeen what do you think the odds are that the republicans will since it has to pass the house of representatives will waiver for mot to do right now what they're trying to do. and if i can qualify that we know that there are a couple of other states that are trying to just say we want to blow out of obamacare altogether texas i think one of the carolinas. might that help or hurt the process well here's the thing as you said the current law basically provides
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a waiver for states to go and do their own thing and twenty seventeen they they want to get away from the health and human services department of the government and basically health and human services would have to verify they're meeting a certain set of standards so when you have conservative states like texas saying well we're going to drop hundreds of thousands of people from medicaid because it's probably not going to get away from something like that so first of all progressives shouldn't be worried that conservative states are going to go with magically regressive solutions but second of all we are saying you know when this waiver that if they can do it better then we'll absolutely give them a waiver and we want and remind allegation once move after twenty fourteen and you know the only reason the conservatives can't really consistent maybe against that they can consistently be against letting states have their rights to go their own way that's exactly what they used against obamacare for the past couple years have let states do their thing go into federal government take the states what they're going to do what they used in civil rights and some of. those states' rights states' rights now all of a sudden it's like no no we don't want states' rights ok so giuliani thanks so much for being with us that thank you for talking with you as always and thanks for the
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laser focus you can for all of us over in progress the truth is the republicans are trembling at the thought of her mom having a single payer health care system that could serve as a model for other states why because canada's single payer health care system started out in just one province statue on one of the more obscure provinces and then spread across the country because people in other provinces demanded it republicans fear that the same thing is likely to happen in the united states and will do anything they can to stop it they don't care about sick people. they care about profits for their buddies the millionaire private health insurance executives and donors. it's time for our daily poll your chance to tell us what you think here's today's question are modest clothes for it close to becoming the first single payer state in the united states once this happens or both most of the states see the light your choices are yes the same thing happening candidate all started and assess
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catch one or no republicans will fight hard for profits for their health care buddies rather than the affordable care for the sick so far more than half of you voted yes we're going to tell her to knock on a lot of snow it think the poll be open until tomorrow morning. coming up breaking news the president of the united states is a u.s. citizen now that's out of the way can republicans focus on the real issues like trying to figure out how to bring our jobs back from overseas. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right.
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this morning the united states supreme court quietly sided with eighty entity a case that could have far reaching effects on politics and business and individual rights has a hand was whether or not a class action lawsuit could be brought against a t. and t. for offering up customers free phones and then charging them more than thirty bucks
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and what they call taxes rather than each customer who got screwed over by a.t.m. t. bring in a thirty dollars lawsuit against the mega corporation and piling up hundreds of dollars in legal bills per person in the process a class action lawsuit can force a t.n.t. to pay out what it owes to everyone after just one trial that proves they were guilty of screwing a lot of people but a.t.m. t. claims that their contractors with their customers forbids class action lawsuits a claim the california judge threw out because that contract restricts the rights of individuals to come together to give. corporate abuse in ways that that judge said was a violation of california law but the united states supreme court in a five to four ruling with a five in the usual right wing crazy suspects the court reversed the lower court california court's decision sided with a t. and t. and a slew of other corporations by the way who filed briefs on the after of a t.n.t.
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and began the process of putting to an end all class action lawsuits as we know them so what are the consequences of the supreme court's latest decision to help eighteen t. screw its customers peter moses moses a is a with a law firm with might happen to know at eleven lloyd joins me now to talk about this issue peter welcome thank you thanks for your class action lawyers what was do to your business. and i do want to differ i do a lot of consumer protection consumer advocacy in class cases iles to do a significant amount of securities arbitration and consumer consumer arbitration so it covers the gamut from arbitration all the way to a class action litigation so i've got experience on both sides of the corner so what is this is this going to. for a class action lawyers i mean is this. setting setting aside the people for who are
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the real victims i think in those. republicans for a long time have had in their gun sites two groups the so-called trial lawyers in quotes and unions and they're aggressively going after unions in the states and it seems that with this movement with this decision they may well be going after trial lawyers or am i completely off and in my analysis. i think the right dom i think there's a couple different ways to look at it one is is attacking trial lawyers and again narrowing narrowing narrowing what is available the tools that are available to protect consumers but more importantly to me this is about escaping accountability they are who what their position is we can screw the american people out of twenty five thirty hundred two hundred tens of thousands of dollars at a time and those cases are too small to bring in an individual case so to me this case is about escaping accountability and further narrowing and saying look now you can't come together now you can file
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a class case you're going to be forced to bring it on your own and we know it really ranging up to the five figures and fifty twenty grand lawyers aren't going to be able to afford to bring those claims because financially doesn't make any sense so we can steal with impunity up to those dollar amounts and we're not going to be held accountable so a company like united healthcare for example that has seventy million customers if they decide. i had to do some or in one of the giant banks has twenty or thirty million customers if they decide to do something to add some charge in or something that's a twenty dollars charge or one hundred dollars charge one hundred you know and it's flat out illegal and i could challenge them in court for that hundred dollar annual fee that that you know that health care or that health insurance companies charge me but in order to challenge that now i'd have to go find my own hundred fifty dollars two hundred or three or four hundred dollars our lawyer pay all the lawyer fees pay the court cost pay everything in order to recover my hundred dollars but
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and so now the company is going to say you know we're going to make a bet that nobody's even going to bother with this and if they do it will just pay them one hundred bucks and seventy million customers times one hundred dollars each if i'm doing my math right seven billion dollars that's an enormous amount to rip off you're exactly right i mean this is not legalized you name it and it's going to impact the american consumer whether it be hope insurance credit cards mortgages banks cable t.v. look at the list of who filed these images please which are images means friend of the court and to consume the big business corporate america it is a laundry list of who's who refuse they knew this is a license to steal this is a great we can take what we want up to the point where it doesn't make sense for law firms to take these on a contingency in the hourly component nobody in their right minds going to hire a lawyer to three four hundred dollars an hour to pursue even a hiver ten grand so it depends which industry you're in whether it's
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a couple dollars surcharge it eight hundred dollars bill from your mortgage servicer that you don't see on your mortgage or that you're here at the end of the year you name it it's not going to make financial sense you did for the individual consumer or for the warriors to bring their claim some sort of. a spouse or a builder and this was in fact the you know just as prior point is the center thank you so much for being with us here today thank you and for the grate. you've been doing corporate influence on the supreme court goes back a long long time and it's got a lot worse for me tell you about how it's gotten a whole lot worse back in nineteen thirty eight remember we've talked many times before change the moment the constitution was passed at the thirteenth fourteenth and fifteenth swore all passed to free the slaves and during reconstruction in the a.t.l. eight hundred nine hundred sixty eight i think it was the year and and the fourteenth amendment says that you can't deny any person equal protection under the law and corporations used to be called artificial persons humans are called natural persons
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and so what happened is in need hundred seventy s. and eight hundred eighty s. in particular after the fourteenth and then was passed corporations started coming forward saying hey we're persons we were our rights under the law under the constitution we want the first amendment right of free speech or the first member right so why argue about the fourth amount right of privacy and what the fifth amendment right to not have to testify against ourselves you know and we would like the fourteenth amendment right to not be discriminated against and there was to go into a community set up shop at the local people don't want us there is say you're trying to discriminate against us as as everybody from wal-mart to waste companies and here's where a few people have said about it over the years in nineteen thirty eight justice hugo black on the united states supreme court had the following to say he said of the cases in this court in which the fourteenth amendment was applied during the fifty years after its adoption less than one half of one percent and keep in mind this was the free of the slaves less than one half of one percent involved in
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protection of the negro race and most for more than fifty percent ask that its benefits be extended to corporations. it's just gotten worse since nine hundred thirty eight justice roberts this is jeffrey toobin writing in the new yorker two years ago after four years on the court however roberts' record says not only that he's not that of a humble moderate but rather that of a doctrinaire conservative the kind of humility that roberts favors reflects a view that the court should almost always do for two existing power relationships in society in every major case since he became the nation's seventeenth chief justice john roberts has sided with the prosecution over the defendant the state over the condemned the xs use the executive branch over the legislative and the corporate defended over the individual played as happened begin today even more than school leah who has a body judicial conservatism during a generation of service of the supreme court justice roberts has served the interests reflected the values of the contemporary republican party in fact justice
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roberts the roberts court has sided with business sixty one percent of the time the rehnquist court sided with business the chief justice rehnquist was head of the court up until two thousand and five they sided with business forty five percent of the time he diverter court sided with business forty three percent as like they were they were on the court until one thousand nine hundred eighty in addition of this the u.s. chamber of commerce and started filing briefs with the supreme court it just sort of three decades ago thirty years ago and you can see here the burger court for forty three percent of time the u.s. chamber of commerce big business interests won their cases from eighty one eighty six when they went to rank was the core became more concerned fifty six percent of the time from ninety four to two thousand and five now here with the roberts court were at sixty four percent of the time the u.s. chamber of commerce as they did today from two thousand and six to two thousand and one are winning their cases exactly the way that this is judith judicial activism
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on steroids john roberts and sam alito both in their hearings said roberts famously said he's not going to be an at. activist he's not going to make the wife going to be like an umpire he's going to call balls and strikes nonsense these guys with citizens united and now this case making it basically impossible for there to be cries of action lawsuits are completely rewriting the lawful land and doing so in a way that only benefits corporations theory rich people and the republican party. president obama gave into the bertha's today and released his long form birth certificate you know the one the donald trump and fox news been trying to convince us doesn't exist here's what the president had to say in the nation's morning. as many of you have been briefed. we provided additional information today about
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the site of my birth i know that there's going to be a segment of people for which no matter what we put out this issue will not be put to rest but i'm speaking to the vast majority of the american people as well as to the press. we do not have time for this kind of silliness we got better stuff to do so it's time for all the bertha's to apologize for wasting our time all the nation's trying to tackle serious issues abroad both of you both at home and abroad right right. not exactly here's a burger king donald trump said this morning in response to the release now let's just say it wasn't exactly a mere culpa take a look. today i'm very proud of myself because i've accomplished something that nobody else has been able to accomplish i was just informed
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while on the helicopter that our president has finally released a birth certificate. i don't want to look at it but i hope it's true while if physio is any bigger they need a wider lens just if it is dead in the screen and heaven forbid whatever lives under a spare might show up regardless it does sound like truck might be throwing in the towel and recalling his private investigators from hawaii but will the other brothers follow is this the end of the questioning of where our president was born or of his legitimacy as president to fight our joining me now is dr orly taitz one of the founding voices of people of the movement really welcome thank you thank you does the satisfy you is it time to pack up and find a new job so back to being a dentist well you know this is a step in the right direction and i really feel it would be as if i am on ground zero of what this is what i gave number two if you recall when nixon released what
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he believes. he released this with big fanfare thing here that paves everything is fine i'm with the president i have more important things to do you know this is just an issue is a crime of our king and then and then of course and it was the beginning of the end of nixon presidency and people went to prison for it but there was it was because nixon was a criminal are you suggesting that president obama is a criminal. absolutely and that's why i brought the documents to prove it and if we can have a twelve this is barack obama's selective service certificate showing him using and connecticut social security numbers zero four two six eight four four two five this is the end of the now the close up this is the social security verification system saying that this social security was never issued to barack obama. and this is i got him i don't even need to prove anything else prove that he
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is committing social security fraud he is and he is using social security number that was never issued could hear anybody else doing the same thing will be in prison today and the question is why nothing was done yet and i'm questioning the timing because i have a security here that shows that you are actually born in kenya and. in fact you know i mean these kind of these documents are so easy and the gallup poll today show the forty three percent of americans don't believe that trump was born in the united states if you go to you know there's a website devoted entirely to donald trump being born in south africa where this father was third looking for diamonds having an affair with some woman and that he's really here to try to running for president to try and reinstate apartheid united states i mean at what point do you do you say on a nuff. i don't think you're reading a prepared statement and you're not listening to what i or that i'm telling you i
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provide i am saying the evidence not from kenya but from the united states of america government showing that barack obama is committing social security fraud he is using a number from the state of connecticut social signals amount of that was never signed here and the question is when is that person who was born in hawaii and supposed to have a valid long phone grocery case you are providing us with you with a birth certificate before that were clearly forgeries how why should we take you seriously no i know excuse me i haven't provided you with anything. i mean if you were going ever so it would not you know you are not anybody else that's a fraudulent statement and that's a different nation with care and you were not you were not a birth certificate from talking about what either had so that he was she was there when he was born you never i always got that wrong but i thought that you know what i have actually i have in my pleadings i have a statement from the king and we can do
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a close up on this this was the assembly of the. plea of republic of korea session march twenty fifth last year two thousand and ten where the minister of finance james already stated. they were discussing nothing culturalism in the united states has multiculturalism how else a young man who's not even and native born american could become a us president so it's a clear so you're still being rather show him here his thing president obama was born here and now i also provide it and we need one more close up here those columbia records columbia university records showing him when you contrast showing him a plant in columbia university here. on the if are on from september one thousand eight hundred two until may of one thousand nine hundred thirty have been out there
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verification same dates september one thousand eight hundred two until may of one thousand nine hundred thirty in all the bomb us papers in speeches he's stating that he ran to columbia university and for two years why is he lying about that. he's alive and well and if you want to act out of time but i but i get to that you're not satisfied you've been very very aware and you have said we have not got hearings and i suspect that he will broadcast i'm sorry we're out of time to thank you for the hearings thank you for joining us tonight i appreciate it as we just saw president obama made a mistake thinking that actual evidence would stop the burghers it won't go to great lengths to prove the barack obama is an illegitimate president at least a claim the berserker have it is fake part of a conspiracy or that move on to something else like saying that his brain has been taken over by the spirit of malcolm x. and i'd like to add that you know with donald trump just talking about why does and
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why does he spend so much time on the basketball court and how could he have possibly gone to college and the bottom line here this is all this is all code bottom line here is as long as a black guy is in the white house a building that by the way was built by slaves there is a small fringe in america that will never ever ever acknowledge his originals. crazy alert golf course crime caper authorities have been stuck trying to figure out who's responsible for stealing several women's purses on a golf course in south florida finally they caught a big break when they stumbled across the purse dancers i doubt not bullshits turns out a slick headed raccoon has been the culprit and he's been stashing is bodies including persons golf balls and various food wrappers and his bushy right out on the golf course. on golf we've been witness to the coup in unsub in his golf bag and rifling
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through it for some good hits and the other day this video surfaced on the internet that might show that same raccoon trying to wash his hands of the crime. we're owes but i'm starting to think that the record had an accomplice let's see someone who spends a lot of time on golf courses is hard to find these days mostly targeting women so it's a lot like speaker that was john boehner to me coming up we're shaking up things this hump day with mid week run with conservatives jenny weinstein and david harbored join me in the rig after the group.

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