he recalls a lot from moscow and recapping our top story the international community comes to a dead end unable to agree on how to those syria's bloody crackdown on anti-government protesters the un has condemned the unrest and us calls for an investigation russia warns that censure could lead to more violence. washington support for opposition movements in the middle east and north africa could be backfiring on its biggest ally israel fears it's actually boosting

a radical islamists say instability in those regions have diverted attention and allowing them to target israel. by millions of addicts in russia could soon face a legal action for their habits with the government planning to hold them a criminal countable another part of the plan includes making drug tests compulsory in schools. but more on those stories in about thirty minutes time or next it's our interview program spotlight it's time i'll go off talks to the cochairman of the foundation council to find out more about russia's high tech hub around the planet tony into an international success that's coming your way in just a few moments here on out say. review the latest in science and technology from. the future.

hello again the welcome to spotlight the interview show on party i'm going on van today my guest in the studio is cray that. this cult of innovation center created and promoted by president that video has gathered the best of the best on its management last year killing legend intel operation craig barrett joined the skulker project together with other scientists and businessmen he's looking into how to make the innovation center an international success so that the cochairman of the skulk about foundation council craig barrett is my guest spot in. the spoke about innovation centers the favorite child of the russian president

dmitri medvedev has been promoting the modernization of the country's economic and scientific future and grew to create an analogue of the silicon valley although the project is still largely on paper investment programs and research grants are being implemented already this year euclid acknowledges telecommunication energy efficiency and by medical technologist are in the spotlight in skolkovo and many company managers believe the results of today's investment in some areas will soon be evident. home aspera thank you very much for being with us my pleasure to be with you first of all there are rumors that mr paul betts is from russian diversion of kisko could replace viktor vaccine against the head of the foundation is there is there any ground for these rumors can you comment so i have no idea what you're talking about idea ok well we'll have some more rumors later but now i have a quick. about the word well why did you agree and the first place to bring chris

culliver you say you have always been interested in international competitiveness does your country the united states needs big and powerful high tech competitors as russia could become i don't think it's a zero sum game international competitiveness means countries become competitive they become competitive they have consumers who consume more and means the opportunity for everyone to sell more product and russia has a great history of education scientific research not such a great history of innovation and commercialisation of the research and i'm just very interested in what it takes to turn russia into an innovative country creating consumer goods commercializing their research and that's a problem that many countries face and i think there's a great experiment going on here in russia. on the twenty sixth of april from the

mistakes someone made the right end of april president medvedev he held a meeting with people to sum up the first achievements of the project well in your opinion what are the main achievements can you name them. over over the first eleven from an existence of well i think there are a number of achievements the mechanics of the operation of skolkovo are pretty well worked out in terms of what it's trying to do how it's going to tend to do that. the the operating structure the technical advisory board we're already making grants to small companies and startups. school cobbles very much acting in a virtual fashion right now and later on it will become more physical as the structures get built buildings are built and people occupy the buildings but the most important thing for skolkovo overall is to get up and operational and that's

happening in a very virtual mode right now you mentioning this virtual skolkovo people speak a lot to doubt this virtual skolkovo which really does exist it isn't yet on the ground it is but but but the virtual skolkovo is working it is making money and is making lots of p.r. as we say what's your comment do you like this virtual scope within and do you think maybe it should remain version but well you said it's making money i think it's spending money to make a move to somebody if it would be providing plenty of any of these drugs so the board for the school who will foundation said very early on that the virtual ass of school kobo was going to be as important as the principal aspect and you really have to include all of russia it's not just a piece of real estate near moscow it has to reach out to universities and entrepreneurism all across this is what we call virtual this is money. reaching out . across the country without

a sizzle if. you can reach out to people and that's what's happening today and that's what will happen for the first year or so of operation will be virtual the skolkovo innovation house which is being developed on the outskirts of moscow just mentioned by my guest has been growing quite a bit of a social cohesion spotlights you know the deal either has more of that. a little over a year after president made that have announced plans to create this so called russian silicon valley it has already attracted quite a number of major foreign investors and not given microsoft siemens going in c. scott level of sign cooperation agreements was a good one the russian innovation center has hosted some top u.s. officials including the governor of california arnold schwarzenegger and he was vice president joe biden and it was school where the former u.s. secretary of state condoleezza rice was to visit first when she came to russia

after leaving office if russia becomes a place in which. and but knowledge based economy becomes the basis of russian power in the international system then it's going to be a very much better world the high tech innovation center is currently being constructed with the first building due to be completed by. a team of french architects that our economy has won the competition for the hubs design the bird's eye view of the center will resemble we joined by to fly one of its wings will host research centers doing with nuclear medical and energy efficiency standards while another will be devoted to information technologies and space research as for residents of the bar to fly shaped they will receive a wide range of crew which is among them tax breaks and start of grants this year alone three. we didn't. do it was with grants to be disbursed to school come up

participants. pray you were smiling when you were watching this special what makes you smile that this is such a such a pleasant really think to be part of it. i think the it's very positive i'm going to be in because show a lot of important people and governor schwarzenegger and steve vollmer and condi rice so you know. there's been a good job of press relations here. it's fun but the real issue is not what goes into the system the issue is what comes out do you get started companies can you commercialize research activities can you grow and diversify the russian economy in the high tech area unless all of that happens and spoke of it was not a success independent of how many important people you have a prime president would have said recently i quote must become one of russia's best

known and best understood brands everyone must know and quote the world skolkovo is it a grand is it already recognized the growth in the united states for example the quite a few people in the us recognise skolkovo even when i was with the president today he was commenting that only forty percent of the russians recognizable people and he thought that that was poor brand recognition i tried to remind him that when intel was trying to create the intel inside brand we spent billions of dollars to create that brand skolkovo spent next to nothing on its brand and already forty percent of russians and and world leaders recognize the name already i think it's making progress even though very little has been spent on it. intel intel way you were c.e.o. was one of the companies was one of the brands which gave name to the silicon valley. in the united states because because your work is one of the one of the

businesses that really creates the whole business of the whole image of the silicon valley well do you think that there's skynet of technology. maybe there are some products that can make russia competitive worldwide what knowledge which brought so well the criteria to that skolkovo is really procrustean on or biotech or alternative energy i t. nuclear in space. i think there's opportunities in all of those i mean you have excellent scientists and engineers here in russia. the commercialization of their output of their research is what's co-composer all about so whether it's new materials new software cures for cancer all of these are possibilities it's really difficult of trying to say this is the product that's going to come out of the storage or. you

know who. don't succeed if you look at silicon valley only ten percent or so of the ideas that get funded get into the marketplace so you can expect every idea to be successful but there's there's an immense amount of research activity here in russia and you have brilliant engineers or when i was it into a little we had a workforce in russia of about of thousand engineers and pan casting they are really top of the class in the world in terms of slide mathematics and computer algorithms there's a huge opportunity to take their talent and turn that into products you said commercialisation. of the wonderful talents engineering scientific talent that we have in russia most of the russians would say that the main problem that we having today with russian engineering russian doctors russian educators is commercialization that this is evil is evil i know it well most people with

us and what they want in life they say i want to good education for my children. i want a growing economy i want to good paying job and i want a nice environment to live in no matter where i go in the world they say all of those four things if you want to grow an economy you want good jobs you want to get education then you have to have something in your concern and you have to commercializing you want your ideas and grow your economy through commercialization of high tech products high tech services is the twenty first century certainly russia has rich natural resources oil and minerals and forest products but i think your president your prime minister becky ties have to diversify your economy to compete with the rest of the world and that's commercialisation there's no other way to do it says craig barrett the chairman of the skulk around foundation

spotlighted we'll be back shortly after we take a break so stay with us we'll continue this interview can you tell me. great for the. we've got it's. the biggest issues get a human voice ceased to face with the news makers.

welcome back to spotlight i'm now going to have been just a reminder that my guest in the studio today is craig barrett the cochairman of the skull combo foundation council and craig vladislav surkov the first chief of staff of the russian president says i quote skulk of our projects should be targeting not only the russian market but the world markets and co out what is russia's competitive advantage and does russia have a competitive advantage to go on the world market and try to compete for the competitive advantage of any country the smart people in the smart ideas can come from the printer but not yet commercialize there's always i have to do merge what should a mercenary and that's what school cause or good about is if the twenty first century is the innovation century. and you have to take your smart people with your smart

ideas and commercialize that into products and services and what you do that then you have to look at the big markets in the world russian market is ok but the european market is bigger the u.s. market is going to her and the rest of the asian market is bigger so skolkovo. and we talked about it earlier he said it has to be virtual i think it has to be virtual reaching out into other markets and sides of the russian market that's an important part of what the power base in is trying to do so actually actually the main job and i like it if the series is to give russian brains and russian products a competitive advantage on the world market it's to give them the opportunity to bring products to market both here in russia and abroad yeah well that's a good i do think from this point of view it's a very good idea that we and that that is not a quote from mr sort of call for those who is. says a lot about

a bad had not skulk about we should he says convince private companies that the investment in scope of zero is profitable since the government investment is not sufficient are you succeeding in attracting private companies private investment i think if you look at skolkovo you find that there are about ten big international companies that have already committed to put research facilities in and around school can lead to one of these companies or these are the bowings the siemens the googles the intel's the ciscos those type of companies are committing to research in russia some of them are already doing research the company i used to work for intel already has a thousand researchers in russia so we're committing to can we interact with school control as well so international companies play russian companies as well and then state owned russian companies a combination of those three categories. willie pooling their research and having

joint laboratory facilities they can you know this should be a multiplier effect on the research that they do and give russia some advantage we will you mention cisco as one of the one of the big investors and i think this is the reason for those rumors about poor bets as who is who is from cisco that could replace the axle together as the head of that is that i've that's called ok another rumor russian businessman hugely millionaire made his name in california that we generously investing in start ups is he coming to skolkovo is he going to work with skolkovo start ups there's a little lot of talk about this but nobody know if this may happen not we know that you showed in your introduction governor schwarzenegger when he was still governor of coming to moscow with a with a large group of so can barely venture capitalists and part of the skolkovo activity is really to to invite outsiders to invest in start of the activities

either here or in fact as we said to translate those ideas into other economies so we would be looking for venture capital from anywhere really to help commercialize the business here the venture capital business in russia there has been some of it but it is not nearly as robust not as strong as it needs to be so we'll have to have outside folks come in and bring their expertise bring their their bench or funds into the russian market to help invest. for t.v. companies as fur's i read in the papers have already been registered as put this just gotten this off the school project is the process of registration continuing of course i mean is that the hope is by the end of the year to have somewhere between one hundred fifty and two hundred companies registered as participants by the end of the year by as participate. and then

a subset of that number will be impacted receiving financial grants from the foundation to pursue their activities what should. businessmen present and even the to me i mean guarantees paper is a what to prove that to get there and surprise funded my school when you have to have is a smart idea it has to be technically competent yesterday to some degree commercially viable so this is one of the reasons you have a a very senior technical advisory board people who kind of assess the technical merits but then you also want to look also at the commercial or business aspects as well but that combination of the two have you ever seen such a presentation i've reviewed is several of the years it is it looks like a couple of pieces of paper or is this like a one piece i mean thousands of pages of one of the things the board.

continues to tell the skolkovo administrators is keep it simple. cut the bureaucracy we're interested in content we're not interested in volume ok critics say that there is too much hot air pumped into into this call have a project when will one will it produce some concrete results were there will be critics of school until you start to see results but i i think you have to be very careful here because if you are expecting results by the end of the year for example that's probably too rapid to get a return on investment skookum both really invest in research invest in new ideas start a company and it's going to take many years for those to be successful you have to have patience in this business well isn't isn't this idea of investing today and getting the results in. of years of teams three years five years isn't it

that piece of cake for for the russian crew krantz. russian corruption is good people there the people better use they used to making money by by putting. government money well. that's always the possibilities but presumably spoke of those putting in place things like peer review proposals and monitoring the work of those proposals and those companies were trying to use international benchmarks to judge these but i do want to emphasize that when you invest in basic research or start of properties you don't invest in expected results. within the space of six or twelve months in the united states when we invest in basic research for example we look at potential commercialization or payback in six to ten years if you have

a venture capitalist and who's invested in companies they're usually invested in oprah period of four or five or six years before they expect a positive return well because i guess this is the question that you were asking when you started what was calcutta that many of your colleagues from from from the west are asking when they're coming to skulk i doubt that one of the big money all the big money projects in russia so far have have created favorable will conditions for corruption for which russia is notorious as we'll now so it's called of a guarantee against it and it should be because this is innovation it is corruption it's nothing new well. most of the obviously billion too small companies story and . it's critical to have intellectual property theft to allow those small companies to have protection for their ideas to having

a viable place in the market so these are a couple the critical things you have to have there's also there's always talk about corruption not just here in russia you see this crop and many many other countries but but it's critical for people to be able to come and invest their money have been already shareholder rights for venture capitalists to come in to be minority owners have protection for their position protection for the intellectual property these are the basic requirements for a viable commercialization small companies with ideas to grow and russia is going to have to have that you said that russia should brains and russian scientists are wonderful but in order to pollution why is this what you are trying to do your part of it you want to think i'm trying to make this true is it difficult to. specialists inside russia people who can work on commercializing the grades of the technologies how does such people understand well i think are they

such people everywhere that they're understand the marketplace and the beauty of the start of this to take somebody who has a business commercial background and somebody who has an idea a scientist or an engineer to get in and put them together and this is what you see that happens wonderfully in places like mit or stanford in the united states where the universities where the smart people and smart ideas are or work very closely with industry and with venture capital people to commercialize those ideas and that's the chemistry we're trying to get his co-counsel you have a combination you mentioned graduates one of my colleagues russian journalists talked to graduates are five. of them. launchpad in the law school in russia nobody can say what's what's written in article one of the russian constitution not a single person i'm like i don't know either but actually not a bad american if you say something that an american was just so what do you think now the quality of russian graduates look i say do you know the russian graduates

in the technical field typing or generally very good and who we have experience entails had experience with other international companies that experience without for for decades there's a great quality to. the witness has been the. interface into the commercial sector and the ability to commercialize those ideas and do something with them and again that's what skolkovo is all about good luck with this and i wish i wish me a great job with the save that she made with intel. we're going to give it a hundred ten percent of that it's thanks a lot and just a reminder that my guest today was craig barrett the cochairman obstacle to the foundation comes that's it for now from all of us here if you want to have your say on sponsor line graph someone in mind to you think patience three next time to drop me a line of how we're not at ati t.v.

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