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eight thirty am in moscow these iraqi have riots washington may have finally killed the man who was the main reason behind the ten year award afghanistan but it's doing little to silence critics who say the war is stuck fast and the dr myers. fresh nato airstrikes hit the libyan capital overnight but there's little progress of any sign for either side of the conflict that's prompting more talk about coalition ground troops going in but experts say the move goods by the death toll
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enormously. roscoe's looking for guarantees of a u.s. plans for parts of a missile shield in romania pose no threat to its own deter and this comes as russia and nato are in the midst of talks over a common missile defense plans for europe. coming up next in our interview we talk about the possibility of all out war in libya with a british member of parliament one of the few who voted against taking action there stay with us. today i'm talking to john barron m.p. who is one of only thirteen members of parliament they say it's against the military intervention in libya compared to five hundred fifty seven who voted for john barrett thanks for talking to oxy now why various against our own number of concerns a number of questions that remain unanswered warm he was yet seen to be meddling in the affairs of another was important to rich muslim country and a record of intervention has not been good in recent years certainly where are why
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couldn't the arabs themselves have put in the no fly zone. particularly given the concealing the capability for decades thirdly why does with such a policy lead why aren't we doing something similar in say yemen or bahrain finally what is the exit strategy we simply don't know if you feel that you achieved something by voting against the intervention or was it a pointless move it away no it's not a pointless you know voting as you see fit that's why i'm here at the end of the day we're here to listen we're we're here to listen to the views of the government and others but you have to vote as you see fit now that you are a member of a party that is looking currently as bellicose didn't go home as blair's did at the height of its power essentially how do you feel about that route well they would argue that the conservative party that. they acted within the un mandate a un resolution which is a little different to what for example the previous government did when they went
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into iraq. so there is a legitimacy there but that doesn't necessarily make it the right decision and i felt it was not the right decision has been previous going to ask us what do you make of the un security council resolution is it floored well i think we must always remember with these resolutions that not everybody is happy to sign up to them for example brazil russia india china germany all abstained this resolution did not have the you know. personal blackmail and if it wasn't for the british and french in particular. i don't think there would have been born as strongly worded as it was but this resolution has then become pentasa shaped beyond all recognition really hasn't said i think there are real questions being raised i mean the reason for going in was concerned about the civilians of benghazi it was the humanitarian ticket if you like and that was a valid concern and whether it was a valid justification for interventions of the reason but what seems becoming apparent is that we now have the no fly zone in effect becoming the bare force of
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the rebel fighters and theoretically this air force can provide couple all the way to tripoli and i question whether that was within the spirit of the resolution as it was originally defined and how do you feel about what hague and cheap a have done to this resolution well you know at the end of the day i think it was for me anyway the reason the obvious that this was more than just about humanitarian aid i think there was no limit to regime change about this and so it has not come as a surprise to me what we have seen happen since the resolution was passed so he's coming out of this west you think the government in this country or the u.n. security council as a whole i think you'd have to analyze probably you know i think they're all party to all defined thought through mission which has no clear exit strategy and meanwhile civilian casualties mount. you know there is
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a contradiction until this policy one we all value human life but at the end of the day if we are being consistent in what we should be doing is talking about a no fly zone for yemen for bahrain you can evolve into the ivory coast. there is an inconsistency in this policy and i certainly think for example that the arabs themselves let's take egypt for example perfectly placed. for a no fly zone it was in a very good position to put one in but perhaps they should answer. we have seen this week that a peace map put forward by the african union was rejected by the rebels because it didn't include making death and his family leave libya how much support you think there is for ousting a good athlete outside benghazi washington and london i think it's very mixed i think you can see that by the fact that there are very few ground attack craft fighters being committed by the other u.n.
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nation allies and i think that's very telling. i think and there's no shortage of countries willing to put in fighter aircraft which would be all that would be needed to instigate and then fly zone but when it comes to ground attack aircraft i think very few nations and put that forward i think that tells its own story as you said earlier this is another military intervention in another muslim country with natural resources as we learn nothing from our past mistakes well you know as you know i voted against the iraq war i voted against afghanistan when we had the opportunity of voting i think we have got to be very careful before you commit troops to buckle. you've got to make sure you've got the moral high ground you've got to make sure that it is the measure of last resort and where of all other avenues of negotiations have been exhausted and i'm not sure we met those criteria when it came to libya as well so i think lesson still need to be learned and we are repeating past mistakes and you see any progress in terms of learning lessons from
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the past well i see some progress you will have seen the prime minister has talked to the curating parliament and this year you will have seen the foreign secretary has agreed to review its policy after every questioning in the foreign affairs select committee these are small positives and i do believe to a certain extent british foreign policy may be at a crossroads in which and see if we got to become more ethical or more. well let's talk about that i mean you say that the prime minister made this week's speech this way to parliament to fair play but that was a part of the trip which was essentially to hawk arms around the middle east when the trouble had already started it was that a serious error in judgment i mean is does that is he the right man to lead the country when it comes to the issue of the arms sales i think it does though did rather illustrate the fact that you know the is a bit of a contradiction and patrol important moment and i think that is being recognised by the government which is why we've had this announcement recently that there is
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going to be review of arms sales but selling arms to a country for purposes of national defense i think are legitimate selling control weapons or crowd control weapons i should say to autocrats and at the same time preach the moccasin to many will smack of purposes and you can only preach but from what we've seen not even from the moral highground you're not just a member of parliament you're also a former soldier what are people saying off the record in westminster do you think the troops will be deployed on the ground was that in fact the plan all along no i did what i did think it was the plan all along to i think most people would say no that would be a step too far we had assurances right from the beginning the new ground troops committed and as far as we're concerned many of us would hold the government to account if it changed its mind but we also had assurances that they wouldn't directly target athletes and we're going that that wasn't part of the un security
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council resolution well it was all they because this is where the if you like the vagueness of the resolution kicks in because it does talk about and forcing a no fly zone and protecting civilians and using all necessary measures to implement the policy you could theoretically argue that all necessary measures includes attacking the command of the and control center in tripoli is debatable but i still am of the view that this was about regime change as as much. humanitarian aid but if you could argue that why couldn't you argue that sending ground troops is part of all necessary measures i mean it seemed such a powerful and and all encompassing for a while because i think the majority of people in this place who voted for the intervention and i respect that you did so warmly assumption that this was about humanitarian aid and nothing more and that it had the legitimacy of the u.n. resolution ground troops and i think that would clearly go beyond that resolution.
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as i say you force in northern ireland what's difficulties do you think that troops were to face going into the middle of a civil war i don't think we have to discuss that scenario hypothetical scenario because i really don't see it happening i think they would be up in this country if we committed reference the u.k. was instrumental in could actually three have let's face it and do you think that cameron hague zeal for war in libya is in attendance to make up for the fact that the u.k. was complicit with a dictator well this is a question you have to ask then i can only view the situation as i see it something to cordingley i mean for all the reasons we've discussed i think this was the brom intervention i suggest you put that question to the prime minister and the former secretary and finally is this a war for oil i don't go i think it's more a it worked out i think humanitarian aid is definitely one reason but i think it's also very interesting because if it was becoming unpredictable you have the same scenario in other countries in the region being swept into the game in bahrain you
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could argue syria why aren't we talking about you know intervention or no fly zones there i think it's largely because you know there was to a certain extent becoming unpredictable that was not necessarily an ally of the west despite approaches and claims to the contrary in the period leading up to the intervention and was no longer necessary to the west maybe all of that may be i mean i did people know question the. i mean i'm sure there are negotiations at various levels about mr rafter but all we can do is parliamentarians take a step back with knowledge that was probably a lot of negotiations were not aware of what judge the situation on the facts that we have in front of us and all those facts whether it's the fact that we don't have an exit strategy whether we're not sure where this policy would lead whether it's the fact you know once again or intervening and why couldn't the arabs have done this and they had the capability to do so those are all factors that help me to come to the decision that this was the wrong intervention canberra thank you very
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a sea of slovyansk on. historical hotels of escape culture in the city. schools malls. madame has a good. east room for the rest of tropicana hutto. washington may have finally killed the man who was the main reason behind the decade long war in afghanistan but it's a little to silence critics who say the operation is faster and private life. fresh nato air strikes hit the libyan capital overnight but still a little sign of progress private side of the conflict prompting more talk about coalition ground troops going in but experts say the move could spike the death toll enormously. moscow was guarantees a new u.s. plan for part of a missile shield romania don't pose a threat to its own deterrent this comes as russia and nato are in the middle of
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talks over a common missile defense in europe. and you farmers next with sports update stay with us. hello there you're watching the sport and let's start with a look at the headlines. barcelona reached the champions league final after getting past this rivals real madrid three one on aggregate. while football legend marathoner is on his way to chechnya as the region attracts another star to play in an exhibition k. . and sigh of relief russian made the next round of ice hockey world championships after a victory over hosts the back. now fast alone have reached the final of football's champions league they drew with one one at the nou camp to go through three one on aggregate barcelona with two goals up in the first leg in their group last week and
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paired dr rodriguez scored at the start of the second half for them to give reality mountain to climb marcello did get one back up one one is had finished past the next three into the final at london's wembley stadium or maybe twenty eight where they will make their. all shall cap a manager pep guardiola what has the chance for a second champions league title in three seasons. we've got for you should i go to listen closely i want to congratulate all supporters who came to the stadium tonight this has been one of the greatest nights i do see they were so supportive despite the heavy rain you have school so i want to congratulate real madrid for the courage of coming here and playing face to face and you can gradually get off to the draw instead of playing defensive they kept playing football very difficult situation. one of the amounts united are the favorites to me pastor at wembley they play the german side sheltered old trafford tonight with a two nearly advantage from the first leg however the red devils may be forced to rescue our striker wayne rooney who has
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a tight and strained and closer alex ferguson may decide to leave out of the first team is ahead of their potential. title decider against chelsea that we can. assume you're better concentration levels that european give. it causes you know there is no regular fable among the people of a movie because. and says a. trade was almost you know the point i wanted to marry a poor. yorkshire people you're put in liverpool genes and it creates incredible competitive edge but as you go to your job as a different table different ways of play in the back way so therefore it was what brings about a concentration of roma's. but the shelter they still believe they can reach a european final for the first time they got a taste of all traffic during a training session yesterday where united are unbeaten this season i shall do have
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firepower in the form of spanish bedford and if it again clash and huntelaar another back they do have a capable keeper and man well knew it and that gives. hope as does the fact they beat him to milan at san siro five two in the previous round. it's not just as many people he means will playing doesn't really matter i'm sure a good batting situation is similar but there is no difference really to the situation before the into tahrir but i want to sure we can play better this time and we have learned our lessons from the last two weeks then we'll see what happens and you have always got a chance so we'll see what happens tomorrow night. with football because diego marathoner will soon be rolling back the years of the argentinian legend i signed up to once again take the pitch for an exhibition match in russia chechen republic next week where the fifty year old has been without
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a job after the sacked as argentina coach last year and is poised to arrive in grozny on maybe eleventh for the invading of a new stadium in one thousand nine hundred six world cup when it is only one day in a star studded lineup expected to turn up the likes of portugal's most kapleau luis figo and former france goalkeeper fabien barthez also on the guest list another former france great and it is a dan has been linked to the event but rebuffed the initial reports just two months ago grossly hosted a one of a kind match featuring former brazil world cup winners and the cheshire eleven. now it could have been a nervous night for russia and i saw his world championships but they moved safely into the next round after beating host slovakia four three before the game started russia needed made it to the qualification round our group elite is just. many thanks live the media on penalties and alexander tool of needed less than a minute to open the scoring for the russians however slovakia's hit back to the three two in the second period for goals from cooling and captain alexis motors of
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sealed the wins make sure russia finished second in the group so the back yet to take third spot to also progress meanwhile the group the olympic champions canada needed overtime to beat switzerland both sides are along with france are to spot the night great with an overtime win over better rates. now another new some big names that made early exits at the madrid open including russia's top seed mikhail youzhny he was well beaten by resurgent martin del potro i usually was ranked thirty for the tone was up against the argentine but the former u.s. open winner is showing his form again after a long injury lay off among the first set six games to one. paid to pick up injury in the second week usually one six three the arjun time went on to win the decider sixty and will face marron chile in the second round. and usually wasn't the only familiar name suffering fifteen seed fernando verdasco
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lost to tie one jenson move in straight sets and is in the first in the tie break on the second seven five you placed belgian release a next. but the home fans did have someone to cheer about david for their big french manager you know but it wasn't straightforward but i won the first set seven five but then a lot of people win the next six love strange july but we need to win right through to round great. let's take a look at the n.b.a. playoffs where miami heat have taken it seriously over the boston celtics after winning their second home game one hundred two points to ninety one big three le bron james dwyane wade and chris bosh combined that eighteen points lead the team to victory well in the western conference semifinal that oklahoma have leveled their series. memphis after one hundred eleven hundred seat home victory march tomorrow the chicago bulls will try to level the series with it lands in their second home game and stood by the news their twenty two year old guard barry rhodes
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has become the n.b.a.'s most valuable player. come from. chicago has been waiting. a long time but if. it feels. about it. right will make the world a trio of the same. person with that. very. night in formula one the sport's most decorated team ferrari are looking to bounce back from a bumpy start to the season the italians are hoping for a considerable improvement in the fourth race of the year in the stamboul they gio twice champion fernando alonso and one time runner up felipe massa may look composed but they haven't managed a single podium finish between them in the three races so ferrari will be desperate
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to create that. grand prix at the weekend a massive does have fond memories of the standard park's brazilian one in three successive years here including two thousand and eight his best season so far but it just means they can provide a much needed boost to this campaign. here we have some updates. for sure we are working very hard as i said from china to turkey and we have i hope we can do a big step forward. the others are working very hard as well but i hope we can do bigger than the others and we can be even more strong qualified and also in the race. well say nothing only russia are facing a race against time to try to produce a new olympic figure skating champion like you getting for the sochi winter games but it looks like they'll be in contention for at least one skating gold in twenty forty as the team discipline will be introduced me calcutta as more. the
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days of dominating the global figure skating scene may be dwindling for russia as triple olympic medalist again you push into has been declared ineligible to compete . but if the recent bowl championships in moscow revealed young talent could be in the pipeline seventeen year old after getting ski claim in bronze at his maiden world event and there's even more good news for russia to look to impress at their first ever winter olympics in three years time with one more skate and build up for grabs and sold she for the first time got a look at the twenty third world championships ten national teams will qualify for the inaugural team event of the section games that scene will consist of two singles skaters male and female toss one pair and a don't scuttle six and three it's an old. x. under your skull is in the good champion himself and now has the country's figure skating federation and he believes russia stands a good chance in the event as none of the traditional individual disciplines are
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being ignored across the country but competition is going to misty if they're going to get the united states are among the favorites they've got strong single skaters as well as always dances even though their pairs aren't as good then there is canada and friends in countries like japan they pay more attention to the singles. they deal behind the team event and paralympics is to try and push all national federations to develop all four existing components proportionally something that the soviet union and then russia has always been proud of and despite the recent dearth of world tonight into gold's hope a bounce the trustee could be on track to revive the medal fortunes in time for such an. r t. let's say that is always spoke for the moment i'm out with no make up the vast timex that adji usually it is that.
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