but how did. he get a job. where did it take. a crossroads osama bin laden the reason for the u.s. invasion of afghanistan is gone now the world is waiting to see if his death will bring about change and how america handles the driving conflict. strikes in libya seemingly getting nato nowhere but the possibility of a ground attack a looming ever more experts say this was the alliances plan all along. and alexa legislation and also argues in decisive actions against pedophiles and russia means many parents resort to adopting a vigilante justice. it

with live from moscow welcome to the program now that the symbolic reason for the u.s. presence in afghanistan has gone with the fall of osama bin laden the question is whether america is going to stick to its congo and war plan this summer u.s. forces are due to start pulling out from the country there are fears the recent milestone may put the brakes on withdrawal and it's obvious marina pornographer wants people are already asking if bin laden's death was indeed i think to. nine and a half years on the war in afghanistan has grown visibly worse while u.s. rhetoric surrounding it has consistently spun in circles we are making progress that is what is unable to make the progress that we have made i think it's possible that by the end of this year you will have. since two thousand and three washington

has repeatedly per cleaned turning points for a conflict that critics call a failing quagmire the reality is that things are still mean that things are worse than they were this time last year every year we send more troops every year as we spend more money and the insurgency grows and size karzai government gets weaker and the violence gets worse nearly fifteen hundred u.s. soldiers and ten thousand afghan civilians have been killed in a war costing america two billion dollars a week meanwhile after assassinating the man it's been hunting since two thousand and one the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden i disconnect between what the u.s. says and what the world sees may have deep it a defining moment in the war against al qaeda the war on terrorism by decapitating the head of the snake effectively you have this aging sickly old man who really

hasn't done anything of real political significance for a long time and the great kind of triumph against evil was that the western leaders are really kind of starting to trumpet so the moments. before him turned into this kind of symbol of evil following the nine eleven attacks he's actually more creation of the west than he is you know a real political kind of terrorist threats in himself u.s. officials branded bin laden's killing as a success and strategic blow to al qaeda but it is going to have i think very important reverberations through. the area on the kind of network in that area and i think you're going to see them start eating themselves from within more and more this as some see the u.s. turning and spinning fiction into famine in afghanistan itself it's not going to have that much of a role we're fighting power over the afghan taliban in afghanistan we're not

fighting al qaeda you have a new generation of young radicals who have grown up watching these wars over the past ten years that are far more radical than their predecessors osama bin laden claimed responsibility for the nine eleven attacks that killed nearly three thousand people and devastated new york city nearly ten years later his death is being reported as a victory for the u.s. the war that america waged to get him still struggles to find a conclusion sure enough or not r.t. new york. well now is the best time for the united states to pull out its troops from afghanistan and rethink its terror attacks this according to katrina vanden heuvel publisher and editor of the us post magazine connection it's an important moment to consider where we go from here and in my view this is an moment of opportunity. to end the war in afghanistan to find an expeditious and to this war and begin to do the tough regional international diplomacy that is required

terrorism is an odious tactic you do not war against a tactic intelligent policing intelligence diplomacy counterterrorism i do think we will see a shift and that is celebrated quite the counterinsurgency tactics that have been the what general petraeus and others have tried to have who is our policy in afghanistan will now take a backseat counterterrorism has worked and i think we see the cost of a land war that even secretary of defense robert gates said it was quite a few weeks ago any adviser would buys a president commit to learn where should have his head examined i think it is a moment to reappraise the national security template in this country which is not made this country safer or more secure. what will bin laden's death really mean for the stability of the region and for the wider world that's the question being discussed by his guests on today's cross talk that's coming your way at three

thirty pm g.m.t. . two thousand civilians have died in the last ten years in practice and just from the terror attacks so i don't see this being any in any way a success even though it was some of the lardons killing will probably generate more and more such attacks and if you look at the kind of success that obama is saying that this could be for a van a sunday and that doesn't make any sense either because osama bin laden has been a man on the run he's he's god nor professional capability he's not been involved in in battle he's not been involved in any way in the in the liberation war in afghanistan he when i was reading the papers today in pakistan is this statement by one of the spokesman of the gonzalez one saying that they were actually surprised that some of the larger was actually alive up to now.

you with r.t. live from moscow now the chief al qaeda operative in the north caucasus has been killed by russia as a law enforcement a turkish national he's credited with being the international quartet or for the region's terrorist cells and more of this now we're joined by also he's a correspondent with you know a question about live from the north caucasus let's have some more details on this video just a few days after al qaeda lost its top man loses another one that's really that's what butyl so you tell us it will happen. indeed a chief al qaida or preserve abdul our crude has been killed did you ring a special operation that happened in changing the i during a raid to allies by russian special forces and during this operation up to. after the shooting two militants including our good luck would work killed and i would like is also known as the. book and say he is turkish prosperity together

where the pakistani by johnny enjoy genovese us was found as is the scene of the operation and now it is also believed that say he arrived to to russia from georgia now he was a monk. a rabi group that was operating in russia's north caucasus and since two thousand and six he has been the chief deputy had of the chief al qaida operative in the region whose name was among gun yes however among was killed in another special operation on be eleventh of april and after he is. over we took his position and as well became the house of cash flows of funds that paid for terrorist activities in russia now russia's terrorist committee as that the results of this recent operation will disrupt the connection between the terrorists that are operating here in russia's north caucasus with the international terrorist group. and indeed to the killing of the love part of

a major anti terror operation that was launched in this area and in deed. and indeed still there is no clear information where russia's most wonted terrorists. might be hiding here in russia's north caucasus it was believed that he may be the killed militants in an early operation that took place in english though d.n.a. tests found no presence of him among the diets and current the a further search operations are underway in this region in russia's north caucasus. who's been a quarter of a large. i want older russian woman was so affected by recent news events that she started seeing things and hopefully not all dreams come true a publisher has made moscow's policeman work like crazy as she saw a bomb planted at a central metro station but she saw it in

a dream. invented on earth but destined for the moon a talented young russian engineers present a unique device designed for lunar travel these and many more stories always available twenty four seven on our website of course that's our teapot com. now italy will host the next major international meeting on libya leaders from nato when the arab league will gather this thursday to plan the political transition following the departure or i'll step out of libyan leader moammar gadhafi and as a stalemate grips libya a nato spokesman says the use of ground troops may be the only way to move the situation forward. a real bombardments of libya's which did good in according to nato libya's leader colonel gadhafi years building defensive

positions be well civilian casualties from bombing continue to mount nato spokesman review this solution so good ground troops. the u.n. security council should adopt a new resolution and libya resolution one thousand seven hundred three there's not invisible man operations we need a new resolution. and forces planned there all along says a leading u.s. law professor clearly what we're seeing are unfold here in libya is a pre existing war play out by nato by the british by the french by the americans and with care the the everything now is going according to plan which is why i believe that since they have failed to do polls could our feet which are steps are sold far the next stage will be moving into a ground invasion and nato powers have jukes the international community into

supporting war and those one or them protecting civilians was the claim that's grabbing the country's resources is the real goal this is one of the most the. reason transgressions of rights of nation national sovereignty and international law that we've seen in the post-war period the west the u.s. and france and britain have been called virtually according to the evidence that's leaking out covertly arming the opposition to gadhafi in hopes of grabbing control of the oil and in the different parts of libya the libyan government promises hell for nato if it sends in ground troops some agree such a war may be tougher than expected we will see increased between what i mean there but also on the ground and maybe this will solve the problem in the perspective of the nato countries or maybe it was simply because we were the one who. bombing from thirty thousand feet coalition soldiers feel fairly safe

a tense you war activists want putting troops on the ground risks not just more civilian killing but may two deaths as well the further away they get from high tech and the nearer they get to know tack then the greater the danger of casualties on both sides turkey china and russia who will criticize the bombardments of libya for minister sergei lavrov thinks nato has already gone far beyond the first u.n. resolution to maintain a no fly zone he hits a second resolution to move in ground troops may not come as easy now several nations feel tricked. if anybody wants to ask for this money it will come to the u.n. security council we will discuss trying to understand what is planned because the aggression is from a mandate that we are seeing now are enough to learn lessons with international opposition on the rois state space and tosk to make the case for more war while britain's prime minister will dealt sending ground troops to libya his defense

secretary admitted to publicly planned exactly that but you have members good at the number of civilian deaths from nato public drug likely to welcome escalation of the conflict valuable short odyssey blood or meantime british politician john baron who was among those of voted against intervention in libya he says nato could have done more to resolve the conflict before starting the operation you can watch our teams interviewed about ten minutes time but for now here's a preview. this is where the if you like the vagueness of the resolution kicks in because it does talk about enforcing a no fly zone and protecting civilians and using all necessary measures to implement that policy you could theoretically if you will mr enablers includes attacking. and controls and from tripoli. i think we have got to be very careful before you commit troops there. you've got to make sure you put moral high ground

you've got to make sure that it is the measure of last resort where all other avenues of negotiations have been exhausted and i'm not sure we met those criteria when it came to libya as well so i think lessons still need to be learned and i'm afraid we're repeating. it's now a quarter past the hour here in moscow you with r.t. pressure is mounting on the russian parliament to introduce chemical castration for pedophiles i think they say the current laws allow criminals to reoffend something which has forced desperate parents to turn down at their own form of mob justice however some believe it stream forms of punishment alone won't solve such a complicated issue. alina is a mother of three last summer her four year old daughter was raped it was really learned what happened she found the man responsible and beat him to death. i don't want him back i can only say that i just wanted to be sure that this animal was

punished and would never do such a terrible thing kids and i would all girl. sadly it is cases not an isolated one in russia in a country where seventy percent of paedophiles up the road with their virginity jury offend vigilante justice is often used as an attorney to call to law so you lynching is inadmissible but it starts with the state fails if poor mothers and fathers knew that offenders would get fifteen years in prison or more would be castrated before being released would never be released without a satellite tracking chip as in the usa ability to know about their every step i'm pretty sure they would not kill them. they have been numerous attempts to toughen the laws on paedophiles in russia in a decade dozens of bills stipulate in chemical castration or life imprisonment have been discussed by the state duma but not a single one has passed the morgue for paedophiles aren't without support in russia

this means some police officers receive money for allowing brother walls and downs to operate of the court system acquit and criminals but i am not only talking about the child porn industry there's so much money and so many people involved in this corruption this evil is too hard to fight but some don't give up and fight their own war so he's hiding his face he says the country's paedophiles on hunting for him killer and information from east papers m.t.v. has created an online paedophile database with child profiles and forto. in ninety eight percent of cases child abuse is real been able to do. no the who they are they should know what they look like they should be on alert sergei says in the thirteen years he's been working on the site not a single official has taken any interest in his plight which they have they do have far greater databases we just don't want to open the market we did what the should

have done. sex offenders here are divided into categories from those serving sentences to those who have passed away but there are many who are marked as at large i wanted a terrifying thought for parents everywhere. every day some six the children become victims of paedophiles in russia that means in the two weeks we've been working on this report more than eight hundred kids have been abused for years russian legislators have been talking about protecting children but for each they failed to act even more innocent lives have been. written off snarky more. following a wave of anti austerity protests portugal has announced that it has secured a one hundred sixteen billion dollars financial bailout package from the e.u. after greece and ireland it's the third eurozone member to require a financial lifeline to keep its economy afloat the exact terms of the deal are yet

to be finalized but portugal's prime minister announced that no drastic spending cuts were required when the deal is signed it will don't have to be approved by donor e.u. nations some of which face tough internal opposition for more on this are crossed live to a member of the european parliament really to paris joining us live from a democratic support or says it received softer bailout terms than are going greece i think this could prompt a complaint calls for revisions from other bailout nations so this is the big question mark is. whether we are fluent the lessons or the failures in greece and i was i think it's very simple to say that after a few months it's clear. that's the packages that have been prepared by your route for duty and union and the i.m.f. for recent violence have not succeeded so. i think that's what you have to to to. to know that's those problems they can both in

content and context so so as you say you say the previous spell out not work has been ineffective it some of being branded as failures but how is the financial aid supportable going to play out surely is just going to plunge the country even deeper into debt the u.s. the more that this package comes on top of several you know austerity packages that we've already had during the last year so you know it may be adopted it may be a little bit different but in any case it's already pretty severe or you know the focus of the regular course was only so it means that the war introductory very market is contracting. there's that's and that's not news contractionary measures are contractionary so when you're a user you are the average families of portugal basically being stuck with the bill i mean the question is where is one hundred sixteen billion dollars where is it going is it just being absorbed by the big financial institutions leaving again the

taxpayers to pick up the bill. well we've had a major problem in the private sector or even been in the public sector public sector since the sort of green intervenes to bail out banks so this is our internal polls for us just think of us not only content problems but complex problems you know if you could go for instance the battle packages in greece and ireland to the one in iceland where i am now and you could see that in iceland it has been you know where at least we can say it was a success or even a big success story well pretty big difference this one is that iceland has its own currency of course you know that but the other one is that it's easier where the i must do this business which is one country that knows where it's heading the problem here is that the i.m.f. is is doing business with greece and ireland and portugal but the main problem is the problem of context is the problem of the european union and we still do not

know where the european union is when you forget talk about the future of the european union and the stability in the fridge for june if you have it all one m.e.p. says but after portugal's a bailout the e.u. bailout kitty is empty there's no more financial rescue money left is this true. i don't think that's true well i think that's the force this recent violence restructure of that's here we go again because then we'll have a sort of plan a spain and italy in belgium you know the problems not is not the bailouts. you know recipients of such problems as it has always been from the beginning and while some of us have been saying beginning again is the problem of the. structural weakness of the eurozone on architecture that's the original sin and that's the original sin that has not been addressed by any of this bailout measures so well i would imagine about that if i were in the i.m.f. one day i will say well let's talk negotiating sectorial you country by country we

have to address the root get you and euro zone and ask them right away what do you want to be do you want to federalize your your economic governance and become practically a union transfer where you know reach earth member states sometimes transfer they gain by being in the euro so the deaths that have been created in weaker economies and that's more or less problem arises there are situations and can lower down the response we can agree for all economists at this point and that will be good for everybody although you want to just keep corporate maintain and don't make you know just pretty or create that and to the loss of the euro you know if the if the i.m.f. this is not to. negotiate with those those dire. goals in mind well it's practically futile to negotiate and i think it is really is futile to negotiate but it certainly does appear to be e.u. is in a precarious position now having bailed out three e.u. members and the n.e.p.

reminds of our reason for america rick i'm sorry that's that's all the time we have four seventh's thank you for. an honest account some global news headlines this hour and two main public school forces reached an agreement ending a four year. if hamas and fatah and other funny joint government following the national election next year the relations with israel was the main sticking point in the towards hamas is unwilling to recognize the jewish state your thoughts are supports a peaceful process with television. at least sixteen people killed thirty seven wounded after a car bomb at up baghdad cafe late on tuesday police say most of the victims were young men who gathered to watch a football match the attack comes a few days after the death of the al qaeda leader osama bin laden which is the group of our revenge. for the business news with korea.

her welcome to business here and i want to go straight to our top story this hour banks in russia are still suffering from the aftermath of the economic crisis that's according to new stress tests taken by the central bank in the event of another wave of economic turmoil half of the banks were found to be under capitalized and over three hundred will be forced out of the market now to discuss the matter i'm joined by a global chief economist at arthur back i'll tell you thanks for coming to the program now what is the stress test tell us about the state of the russian banks you know in terms of if there's another crisis a lot of them will be out but yeah i would say is a stress test per se trailer the way to identify if the bank is sort these are the best shape but this is really is a way to identify the areas of freaks so i think what is very important at the moment is to see that off the two thousand eight clauses will still have a very deep in on the banks which potential can be in financial trouble in case of . turbulence and i would say they in malda of three hundred banks which will be

forced all of the market will you know hobbled the banks will require some support this is the very portion of the banking system and i would say would have seen after the publication of the stress of the intervening markets rates went slightly opposite this is definitely generating some nervousness between banks in terms of the quality of their counterpart is released and i think the stress does the whole central bank to be more proactive income fall in want to trying and we still banking said you know why there are some banks think that the stress tests was too tough for them well i personally believe maybe they properly the way to look in the stress test because the tough is this trust is a better the banking sector could be prepared for the new crisis and again the very top stress tests would mean that the central bank will have. a role has a platoon to move into business from now. of sides and religion to fire well there

is a risk that snotty however will understand that at the moment now wolf a national institution because of the paf environment because the long grass has moved on this would prefer maybe little nor can you could get tedious for this reason and maybe just delayed you know this painful and that was a sin some cases just to be focused on their own the preferred to build them up so from your point of view how can the bank recapitalise like you as a normal great increase equity capital and you say capital adequacy ratios just kept because of profit how are the wall in the sand as a moment when the equity market is not be from as fantastic as prizes and when the loan growth is much smaller than the crisis levels for a number of things in particular product banks is definitely a very hard to come back from before the built a level which they generated before the crash so it is a different approach to turn kids of prizes different financial institutions and all of the states through it but this is an emergency please so we'll see normal

everybody in a row has to count on their higher profit and i think this is a very important sign for the shareholders it's a novel for a private chef and as it can look for the expect in the dividends from their bank institution the really have to be prepared for some long queue to invest robbing investment of the banking business because we say about the first as that was carried out there's too many still too many banks in russia but if you're judging by this quote in vulnerability of the banking situation for the way they are to the crisis this is the fall of one of the conclusion but you know another way is also to use some theoretical economic calculation for the fan number of banks and usually if you are measuring the number fell by size of g.d.p. you size of bank as has to g.d.p. normally your conclusion will be that in russia we may be five hundred through five hundred banks so definitely. the last thing with all thousand banks. to be excess

i would just quickly if we compare russian and european banks how do they differ but the key problem loans it's russian banks cept they sort rates on the russian counter standards with a different capital i think those who climbed off the sun well we know that the global banking in the developed countries operating on the national. and they're the capital i think with some different promise on not much the ok after all thanks very much that's all we have time for us this. that's the latest we have for you i'll be back with more in fifteen minutes. wealthy british sign the sun. is going to. go.