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for details on not my school time segment and since i'm saying that a mile let's take a look back to one year ago this day the debate over immigration reform was front and center thousands of people coming out to protest so what about us and. we in the far right in the lead. up to the lead. we dasn't the says they are safe and ready because they're freedom. hey guys welcome michel ancel on the on
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a show we've heard our guests talk to say on the topic now i want to hear audio just go on to you tube the video response our twitter for part of the question the queen's host on you tube every monday and on thursday the show's gone responses with. the. you know sometimes you see a story at the scene so. you think you understand it and then you give them something else here's the part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't
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. charge. all right it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to oklahoma state treasurer and miller and before becoming this great treasure the state treasurer he was a state lawmaker and he didn't have a very friendly record on immigration issues he voted for a ballot measure declaring english the official language in the state and since becoming treasure he's also called for a crackdown on illegals living in oklahoma and is actively supporting a new bill being discussed in the state modeled after arizona's papers please bill sounds like a true anti immigrant politician right now as i mentioned to ken was just elected to the job last november and he still has
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a little bit of campaign debt left over so he's decided that today is a good day to hold a fundraiser but this one has a theme that's right cam is holding a cinco de mayo fundraiser if the irony there can try to make money to pay off his campaign that around the mexican holiday yet. i think it's pretty clear from his policies that he hates talking about being a hypocrite now the invitation that was sent out called the event i learned a oklahoma cinco de l'isle with ken miller and every station also had a letter asking for money to help retire his sixty six thousand dollars in campaign debt but this is the best part the last line of the letter read i hope i can count on your sponsorship by joining us as a five thousand dollar dignitary up to twenty five hundred dollars socio a one thousand dollars or a five hundred dollars amigo for this important event of course any and all of the contributions will be greatly appreciated so well look at that
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a politician trying to make money off the people he bashes all the time that's almost the same relationship between a hooker and a pimp you know maybe the next in population in oklahoma should crash his little fundraiser tonight not pay for his margaritas or his mexican food and then sink him further into debt and that might teach him a lesson about bashing immigrants and then trying to fundraise on their holiday so it's a nice tool time winner is oklahoma state treasurer ken miller. now sticking on the theme of immigration the state of alabama is close to passing a bill similar to arizona's as the ten seventy but there's one big difference alabama's senate bill two fifty six is called the alabama taxpayer and citizen protection act and it blocks employers from hiring illegal immigrants and gives police more powers to check the status of motorists during traffic stop but it also includes another shocking and pretty ridiculous provision it prevents students who are in the state illegally from taking part in any extracurricular activity at school that's right the bill specifically banned students in grades k.
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through twelve from all extra school related events that means no football no cup squad that means no problem and the glee club provision as it's called would make life very difficult for children who were brought to alabama by their parents honestly i just can't wrap my head around why the g.o.p. in alabama thinks that it's a good idea to punish children who probably had no good choices a decision to move to the state or even the country and i'm just wondering where all those compassionate conservatives went you know this bill is being pushed by g.o.p. state senator scott beason and he calls the measure a jobs bill really how it's keeping teens from going to prom creating jobs in alabama and let me give you a few more crazy details on this man's past there's already a law in alabama that keeps illegals from getting driver's licenses but this bill would make it a crime to knowingly give a right to an undocumented resident to now lawmakers now alabama want to tell residents who they can have in their cars what happened the whole don't tread on
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the monster the g.o.p. isn't pushing for years now there are also currently two migration bills being debated in alabama but the entire state is solidly controlled by the g.o.p. and the state's governor has said that he wants to sign an immigration bill this year by the way they see all use as the model or the bills and will probably file lawsuits in the future but back to state senator gerald allen he's got a history of pushing at the ridiculous bills he's introduced by. before to ban schools and public libraries from purchasing books by gay authors and he was also caught using a week of pedia to copy portions of his aunt bill so too bad he can't also be tonight's told time winner but we can only have one. now if we think back to a year ago today immigration reform was one of the hottest topics in the country protests were taking place nationwide against arizona's immigration law congress was acting like an immigration bill was a top priority but one year later you don't really hear about it anymore not from
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capitol hill or from the mainstream media so what happened here to discuss this with me is christopher chambers a lecturer at georgetown university and author of the blog that turner's revenge chris thanks so much for joining us tonight let's look back to a year ago like i said this was a hot debate it was on. every single day you know we did an entire show about it as well but you saw people protesting we saw thousands and thousands of people taking to the streets and you saw lawmakers reacting to that it was also a campaign year people running running for twelve or twenty ten elections and you saw john mccain making commercials saying well the day there was even rather a. machete doing a commercial. for what happened well i think that the networks figured out this issue is a lot more complex than the good and evil that was set up last year that aside from a whole lot of other issues obviously from earthquakes to tornadoes to some of been
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on libya and ironically some of bin laden who has affected immigration law in this country much to the you know. a lot of especially hispanics in the united states but that is that is kind of pushed it off as well but there isn't any good and evil symbolism anymore and they are set up for that it is too complex now and you even have fights in the g.o.p. in florida for example or in in oklahoma you have g.o.p. moderates and business interests against tea party right wingers on this issue and fox certainly isn't going to devote a lot of time to showing a lot of you know division in the fan. so to speak so that's that's basically what's going on when you say that osama bin laden himself has affected immigration law so this was a pretty nine eleven i mean you had a problem and you had a lot of big but pretty nine eleven you did not have this the superior. the fear the hatred and then on top of that the security model and you know and then on
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top of that model because of nine eleven now you have the excuse and you see that in opposition to the dream act and what's going on on capitol hill now the president trying to push a new immigration bill is this well these people are all drug dealers and you know the coyotes that bring the people across the border are actually bringing you know marijuana and you could forty people trying to get drugs as nannies and so i get i think like i was it has been i was also in philly. really heard that there is a there and that's gone right now i mean there on the other side of the court you don't have a space hispanics are looking at us in the streets protesting because they don't have that symbol of you know that of evil for them the jan brewer symbol that they were railing retiring you know like we just mentioned that there are laws being passed across the congress not just about arizona anymore you have it going on friday you have it going on in alabama so really you know who drive so that when
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this story is taking center stage in the media and pundits are talking about it and it's being built up does that also help drive the crowds or do the crowds health care i believe the attention well the crowds drive the media attention when something discrete and crazy happens we don't have that in arizona because we don't have that arizona show piece we don't have a jim breuer we don't have the minutemen lighting up the border we don't have that so in other words it's going to be up to the media to drive the story and then again the media is ignoring these these these discrete you know state laws that are being passed by republicans and there's republican infighting. also ignoring what's going on with the president a president is up on the hill was up on the hill today talking to the spirit caucus basically you know cleaning them you know support me because you know a lot of them said the midterm elections well that's right about fifteen million. in two thousand and ten and this was there was
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a huge turnout obviously for republicans so that the house but i wonder why it is you could say if the latino population really sat out so much because they could have come out they could support of the time but they saw you know their inability to do anything about. the farm is a loss so who do you think they're going to go see when it comes to twenty two well that's going to depend on the media and how the media you know frames this for them because a lot of them are young and a lot of young people don't vote i'm talking about you know those who are citizens or me and most of them are eighteen to thirty number two you know they don't want to seem you know big and they don't have a symbol of evil and the tea party really kind of pulled away from that during the midterm elections for reasons unknown because they probably had so many other things with the democrats with no you know as this comes to the fore i think the president is probably going to energize more of this you know support but at the same time he's been deporting a lot of people he has not been pushing the dream and you know representative
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gutierrez has was on him about so i guess unless the g.o.p. candidate is someone who is strong and the ayatollah rising then it's really going to be a game of who is who is not necessarily going to go one way or the other you have this one thing i want to talk about he was the immigration reform there was a lot of talk about it last year it's obama is supposedly now going to start talking to congress again without his own proposal but it's starting to put pressure on them to talk about it again but because everyone says that jobs and the economy was more important but immigration is tied into jobs the economy you know you could have yes you have a larger workforce these people were naturalized so i'm sure that that would make unemployment you know you were able to do that. so you have more revenue hurt more taxpayers and none of us ever makes it into the results. because it's it because it does boil down to a certain level to an emotional kind of patriotism sort of issue and that's easier to cover the actual nuts and bolts of the jobs again that's too difficult for the
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major networks to cover you can you can do that in newspaper online because they can drill down into the details this aspect of jobs the effect probably the positive effect on revenue a positive effect believe it or not on health care is not going to be covered as a player because they can't even get right the fact that the people coming into the country illegally well you come on documented or illegal aliens they are not drug dealers or drug mules i mean this is the same thing that's been happening for twenty thirty forty years people want a better life crossing the border now you have this team of security and drugs and that drives the the writing media but it's also you know it's a lot of politicians actually means causes jail well i think it has happened here chris thank you so much for joining us tonight. i don't go anywhere and i still showing tallis coming out and grab a drink for i happy hours i think arties getting churchill and a rapper go read english language you talk about some criminals part is
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a really really bad weather radio i have to feel for the. let's not forget that we are right. i think. the one well. we haven't got the that says they're going to keep you safe get ready because of their freedom. rachel martin here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture a. new
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website with twenty four seven live streaming news times what to do about the ongoing financial heart unlimited high quality videos for download. and stories you may never find on mainstream. media so. we. aren't just. hey guys welcome to shelling tell the obama show we part of our guests not to say on the topic now i want to hear audio just go on to you tube to video respond or to twitter for part
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of the question that we post on you tube every monday and on thursday the show long response to. your book. and what looks like an ongoing saga sony's massive data breach the company is now pointing fingers at a new target anonymous that's why the same group of hackers who we've spoken to many times on this show famous for defending wiki leaks and taking on the westboro baptist they're now being accused of a massive and alicia's hack of over one hundred million sony customers so he's argument well the company claims that when they were investigating their service post-hoc they found a plan to file would. red anonymous and we are legion one of the groups mottos and the electronics company also explains how their corporate web sites were victim of a d.d. o. s. attack after they went after george hotz who released a code online to modify the playstation three so by those arguments sony now thinks
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that the exact same group of backers are the ones responsible for this huge data breach over a lot of people out there well they aren't convinced especially after anonymous sent out an official press release proving why they're not to blame their argument for starters it's not in anonymous is nature to steal anyone's credit card information and then turn around and try to sell it on the black market they also point out that their m.o. is always been a very transparent public attack against corporations who take part in criminal activities so this latest sony hack doesn't really match their style so to speak but then again i guess when you're dealing with a group of thousands of members all over the world without really any leader it's hard to say if there are any rogues with anonymous who would stray from so here's the evidence i'm really you guys be the judge on this one however i will remind everyone that regardless of who's to blame it doesn't excuse the lack of sony to protect their customers and if the company's accusations prove to be false anonymous could have more ammunition to actually attack the decaying maybe
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electronics corporation. are it's time for show and talents a night's program last time you want to get your take on the killing of osama bin laden so we asked if you thought justice had been served let's go to producer patrice in a sentence to find out what our viewers have to say. has justice been served the majority of you say no to the kaiser told us we are the united states of america we do not torture we do not assassinate our president does not order the killings of anyone unless we are at war with them we have sunk to a level of a third world banana. blick doug maybe you should be saying we should not torture assassinate or order the killings of anyone but that's just not the reality and twitter guerilla monk told us it was a mafia style execution just as would have taken place in the court room temp our agreed on face book when we accept assassinations over
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a fair trial we have turned down a dangerous road oh most of you believe that a fair trial would have been the right thing to do scott pointed out bin laden was given a quick death and so much decent burial while the bulk of his victims died in agony and nine eleven might take justice is relative since we've learned that bin laden was unarmed when shot the question was justice served will be open for debate for a long time to come well you may want to call it justice or revenge as the war on terror continues this will bring some closure to that horrible chapter in history. well thanks patrice and here's our next question for you at home while obama is doing his victory lap after taking down on his number one a lot of people are wondering how this might affect his reelection run in two thousand and twelve add to that the incredibly weak g.o.p. primary debates night and some people are wondering if the president is going to have any real competition next year so we want to know what you think is obama
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unbeatable in two thousand and twelve you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows the response just might make it on air. ok ok it's time for happy hour on this thursday evening and joining me tonight is our team producer jenny george will and already we're not sleepy a comedian and a rapper otherwise known as the remy that i just put your last name that's great was that good ok you're just making sure a lot starts. with something funny i guess you know we often hear that there are two more fish in the sea or perhaps you know some of the fish i'll have more three poisoning in a stage for us to eat but the e.u. is really finding a good way to keep their fishermen busy days even though they can't catch any fish
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because they're starting now pay them to catch plastic because there's so much trash that you know that i have to say my only knowledge of the fishing industry comes from reality t.v. so when i think of this i just like a bad idea to go out on the deadliest catch like pulling up their crates just filled with like plastic bottles and six pack rings just not as hardcore i guess when they're getting trashed instead of like fighting the fish but i guess they're still fighting about whether maybe the waves when i read the article i was looking are very selfishly because when i was young i was at the beach and i had a human action figure sweep into the sea because i wasn't familiar with the concept of tide at that point and it was the most traumatic experience of my youth and i'm just hoping you know if any of you fishermen are watching you know hope that maybe one myself you know if i'm going to skeleton man his he was. the master of the universe ok masters i mean this is that's kind of a lame superhero name that's all i got to say but i guess now these days if you
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want to throw one of those like you know of messages in a bottle it's probably just going to be these fishermen that are paid to pick that up instead of your your soul mate somewhere across the atlantic yet i mean what this tells me is everybody just litter in the ocean and you're giving the fisherman work i mean i think this is what they're doing to save i think this is what they're doing to save the sea shepherd to be honest because i hear that they won the battle against the japanese whalers so now maybe they're just going to send them out to get the recyclables it seems like don't actually listen to anything you know we don't we don't condone it littering you should recycle but some people might make a little cash off because there's already some crack in the sea no really quickly you know last night the house passed another. they make all of this try to say that it's all about the budget but it's sleeping antiabortion legislation that we cut funding for many programs so it's not remember the federal or let's remember the federal funding already doesn't go towards abortion but there are things where you know through your employer in your insurance that insurance can cover it and i just
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understand mean it's getting die in the senate president obama has already said he would veto it if it got to his desk why are they wasting their time on this when jobs are the priority. i personally think that they have kind of cell phone bill syndrome where you get your bell and you know you talked way too much and it's huge you call eight hundred eighty anyways so you know they're not going to do anything but it just makes you feel a little better knowing you called i don't know. maybe they don't feel the mantle better knowing they did what they could for what they believe in which is crowd i think it's i mean obviously if anything's happened in the last thirty forty years it's really polarizing sort of issue it's not too surprising that you know one way or another means a lot to different people don't surprise me that they may do lots of people but you know when they passed this type of legislation it's all they base it most of it on lies because they like to say that you don't like your tax payers dollars going
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towards abortion but really they're just restricting what people good do with their certain insurance plans and now you know that doesn't penalizes the companies that are trying to provide these insurance plans it's just a really what it would be it would be foolish for their desire to not do so or to do so they have to do what they can to please their constituents and this is clearly an issue that for the g.o.p. is really really big important issue oh i wish for the day when this is an important issue anymore now let's move on to something way funnier because who doesn't love to talk about dumb criminals right i mean there are some people in this world are criminals and they sure they deserve to get locked up in jail and they're violent and they're dangerous some people are just so stupid that they are meant to get caught this one is just weird there was a guy in west virginia who is found with a goat carcass that he apparently stabbed to death and he was wearing women's panties and a bra well found standing over the card is he said that he was. going to use
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gateway drug. yeah i mean all i know is in kentucky we pick on west virginia a lot everyone else picks on us so i'm not surprised and. it's crazy was having a go in your launch of a i just i feel like that's like a true blood as soon q you still live in west virginia and when i was reading the headline of the article you know i thought maybe it was my own goal but then i got to the part you don't have a go which. you know i think it was the neighbors go you got to be very fair to be fair to your and that's the road that's why that's why we're out here to see more of these good ones first there is a guy who dials nine one one. calls and i'm on the line and i want to happens to overhear him and the other man that he's with talking about planning a crime and then as the cop car drives by they go oh no no there's the cops. how do you pocket dial nine one one and why would that come up first to be a nice right. by people because i mean you know i guess it must have been his last
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call which is a little awkward i don't know why his last call would have been i'm on that or it's really really bizarre and he just happened to hit those buttons from his back pocket and i think one of the great things about this world is that when people engage in criminal activity they don't just do one stupid thing you know you have to do you have to make some pretty bad decisions just to commit a crime to begin with and it's just so fortunate that they don't just draw the line right there you know one would ever get caught it. would be the best one is this is a guy who called nine one one and this is. because his drug dealer didn't give him the correct change when they made their transaction for the crack that he wanted he gave them sixty dollars only twenty dollars worth of crack so that he called nine hundred. you bring mccain i knew it and i find the guy after he already admitted to smoking all the crack. yeah. this can only be trumped by the story of the
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cop who called the cops to tell them he was high on the drugs that he confiscated i think. all the time because guys this guy's got a you know you know you have it you don't you know and share your experience like everybody else yeah but i don't i just wonder what the canine you know would have done that or they would have jumped on him right all right we're going to be guys thanks for joining. us now before we go tonight it's time for our final tweet of the day since we're doing how we are five days a week we're going to end our nightly tweets so tonight you want to share what life . he also me goes but if you really like me to me to the day that is a message on facebook or on twitter and we just might bring it back to the future only if you really really really wants to that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in i'm a treat from back tomorrow j. crew is going to stop by for happy hour in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the alone or show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of snipes or any other night you know his fastball you must be on
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