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a lot of what they. feel sick sick sick sick sick . you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else hears some other part of it and realize that everything you say you don't. think.

are deciphered sides tool time award as an idea goes through very obnoxious radio and t.v. host ed schultz last night at the segment on his m s n.b.c. show about renewed patriotism in the u.s. since the killing of osama bin ladin and apparently i wasn't happy to the country music a stablish meant i wasn't going to get all the fun take a listen as ed calls out a group of musicians for not being patriotic enough. we should just be boston with pride right now i mean i think i can say that we with tremendous confidence that this was a brave mission based on a gutsy call by president obama i mean all of us except maybe one portion of america i'm waiting on and that's nashville tennessee and ruiz country western

singer is that just love to make all these patriotic songs league greenwood are these proud to be an american. come on dude give me a song man we took down the number one terrorist in the world does it have to be a republican president all the time. and you're right ed because the most serious issue that the u.s. is facing right now is the lack of country music songs about been a lot of being assassinated thank you so much for taking time on your show could rest this very important issue i'm not sure that i can think of anything less important in nashville tennessee not coming up about enough songs about osama i mean i just don't understand why ed thinks what the u.s. needs right now is a really cheesy country music singer has cowboy boots and hat thing about killing terrorists you know saw after nine eleven.

that's right that was toby keith thinking about putting a boot in someone's ass after september eleventh and now ever wants nashville to come up with a song about putting a bullet in bin laden's head but during his little rant last night and should probably been have been a little bit nicer the national crowd if you really want to get a song out of them. i think president obama and the seals deserve a song primos fall in love and american rednecks and nashville tennessee who love the democratic. president and it doesn't matter who the president is what color is what is the. what is it you cajun is he's ok. i had a news flash for you calling singers rednecks that might not get you what you want but he is determined and has opened up his message board and is asking his viewers and listeners to send in their best stuff so great that's just what we need more

you tube videos of people who can't sing thank you for encouraging this crap for grandstanding about tests of patriotism that's why you are tonight's tool time winner. now it's the moment that so many gamers have been waiting for the company's c.e.o. howard stringer has finally broken his silence and issued a public apology however he opted away from any sort of press conference instead he just issued his apology through sony blog and it is post he wrote as a company we and i apologize for the inconvenience and concern caused by this attack under the leadership of kazuo hirai we have teams working around the clock to restore your access to those services as quickly and as safely as possible but sterner might be issuing another apology after this weekend according to seen at hacker chat rooms are telling their peers that another massive hack of sony's database is planned for this weekend so g.'s only the apology is really nice and

all but are you really going to try to reassure your users that you're sorry while chat rooms are working out the details of the next malicious hack site waiting two weeks before giving a really lame apology isn't going to win back your dying crowd and i'm sure the c.e.o. of a major electronics corporation is no idiot he's well aware that a simple we're sorry isn't going to fix the massive breach that left over one hundred million customers personal data exposed to hackers but the good news is that sony has gone a step further they plan to offer an identity theft insurance policy up to one million dollars for all of their u.s. customers meanwhile they're still decide. writing how they can help their customers in other countries but i do think that it's safe to say i have peers are going to have a heyday with me and from the looks of it the worst might still be to come keeping mama just proves how badly somebody got schooled by these hackers and the worst part is that they still don't know how severe the damage is to customers personal accounts so in the meantime for all those who worry about their personal data keep

a close eye on your account and let's keep giving sony hell for failing to encrypt their customer's financial information. now in the wake of wiki leaks one upping every news organization on the planet with a large trove of classified information they receive and major newspapers are trying to cut them out of the picture as we've told you before on this show the new york times and the guardian have been working on creating their own leaking sites and yesterday rupert murdoch owned the rupert murdoch owned wall street journal launched their own leaking website called safe house but is this going to be enough to cut out leaky leaks to inspire whistleblowers to come to their site and it doesn't seem so if you look at the fine print in the wall street journal's terms of conditions those leaders who choose to remain anonymous must first enter into a confidentiality agreement that states that any information sent to the journal can be used in any purpose as in they hold the right to disclose any information about the leaker to law enforcement authorities without notice in order to comply

with laws and safe house leakers have to agree not to use the service for any unlawful purpose so does this has destroyed the basic principles of anonymity aligned with leaking and doesn't serve as a vindication for wiki leaks joining me to discuss it is aaron swartz executive director of the man of progress dot org aaron thanks again for coming back on the show. the first part is the internet i really do think that we can fix this really changed the playing field over the last year and now we're seeing this this is journalism arms race as to who can set up their own leaking site or i guess alternative faster. but clearly i mean this is a huge indication that we can actually gone from everybody saying they should be locked up in prison to the point where every newspaper or a news outlet works how the senate and we go to the point where if they want to look at julian assange we're going to have to work on every editor of every major newspaper in this country it's just ridiculous well you know it's interesting too because the wall street journal didn't get any of the any of the document dumps

from wiki leaks and so i'm wondering maybe there is a little bit of bitterness involved there too you know what about rupert murdoch wanted to do this. yeah i mean we've seen incredible sense of sour grapes from some of which it makes critics for example after the near term says one of the wiki leaks keeps their editor going around calling julian assange crazy maybe i mean pettiness of these journalists is just incredible so if people were serious so the labeling papers like the wall street journal which i this coverage and sort of wait weeks lanson order lose now they're trying to provide a competitor we can weeks to get stories from themselves so they can sell it to instead of letting wiki leaks control the story let's talk about the ways in which this wall street journal experiment fails first of all are not only do they not guarantee you any time and i never see and even say it in my hands you over the authorities or at least their information if they have to i also hear that there are a lot of technical loopholes here can you tell us about some of those. you know that's

exactly right i mean they recommend that you use a secure anonymity service culture work which is a great idea everyone should be using to submit documents anonymously but unfortunately never tested it with tor so if you do try and use it it just didn't work so really be a christian system you use had serious laws that would allow the government to declare some of the encrypted communications and do certain syrians and there were other multiple vulnerabilities and it just seems like really. but the fact that they also say you know that it has to be lawful and that we might had over your information i thought is if they ask for it and we have things to go against you know the basic principles of what it is to be a whistleblower of what it is to be an anonymous source of some kind of document so do you think of this just proves that all the news organizations are now there are scared you know now all of a sudden leaking is that what it used to being now they feel like they have to comply with the law no matter what and just you know do with what the government pressure on them to do. yeah i mean i'm sure the lawyers got in here and said look

we need to have to put everyone you know out to dry if we want to have good news is that if you are wall street journal journalists jail and loses that that means all the sources will go to jail but people who don't have the resources of the newspaper to protect them they're going to have to try new people most at risk the people who are doing the hard work i'm actually leaking documents but at the same time you know i bet you that if we can leaks were to have another major document even if that was to be obtained illegally which i think obviously is still out for debate right now i still think that the wall street journal go ahead and print it about you oh definitely there was a great study in the atlantic to do in the new york times which has been somewhat critical because it mentions half of every paper issued by the new york times this year have all of them and weekly weeks to do stories and so on the one hand they criticize it but i'm going to put it into almost every newspaper they print so what's your prediction for the wall street journal safe house do you think that is

going to be a success do you think that whistleblowers are actually going to go towards it because they're so afraid with the example that the government has made out of wiki leaks out of killing assigned out of gravelly manning or does it really kind of put you know a different light on all whistle. you know people who don't trust we keep weeks that interest rupert murdoch anymore you know i think we're going to see if this continued proliferation of we can say it's all across the internet because the internet is fundamentally designed to share documents it's not something you can shut down by just showing down one web site and so what i'm hoping is that an open community will develop will learn these best practices the security things like the ones she got obama's pointed out today about how to make sure you're sane safe we did as well as operational security inspect how to keep yourself anonymous and how we should document securely so that instead of relying on one single point of failure one way we newspaper company documents will be spread all over the internet by everybody but you know i think you write a good point earlier today when you mentioned the wall street journal and obviously how some of their coverage might be

a little bit biased do you think that would be the type of scenario where i'm like what the leaks who just puts it all out there no matter whether there's the you said that they were even censor they might not even you know print stories about your leaks that you send especially from a corporation with which rupert murdoch is associated with i think it's very clear i mean one of the fascinating innovations that we keep weeks is this thing we call scientific journalism you know they don't just write stories about documents and people going out of context like the new york times will do they put all documents online so you can read them for yourselves without the spiro without the town you know without the sort of putting it in certain contexts we can read the rock acts and make your own decisions it's really hard to imagine. and i think we'll have to wait and see whether this is successful or i'll wait and see whether the new york times and the guardian come up with their own version the al-jazeera already has a certain you know they've dedicated to that to you but i just don't really think they're working out all that well i think it's

a bad bad imitation of way to make their i want to thank you for joining us protecting us very much it's certainly. now coming up next we have our fireside friday and then it it's time for happy hour tonight making fun of musical acts trying to cash in on the death of osama bin ladin artie's lauren lyster and j.j. brewer open government strategist will join me when we come back. we are in the fourth quarter where the lead. up to the one that will lead. we haven't got the says he's heard him say so get ready because the freedom.

hi guys welcome michel ancel the alone a show we've heard our guests talk to say on the topic now i want to hear our audience just go on to you tube to video responses going to twitter for part of the questions that we've posted on you tube every monday and on thursday the show long response is going to leave your voice be heard. so. so. so. far. you know something just

a story and it seems so. you think you understand it and then you get something else here's the part of it and realize that everything is. going. to tonight's fight for your. well it's been quite a week one that i think says a lot about who we are as a country on sunday night when president obama announced it will solve a lot of have been killed my initial reaction was how did it happen give us the details are we going to be shown any proof and as we watch the story change from one day to the other because from the white house investigations by the pakistanis

i get the sense that we may never know the full story but that shouldn't stop us from searching for it i think it's important to question the honesty of this administration the legality of a targeted assassination to ask it capture was ever even an option that the white house gave the seals but tonight i'd like to focus on something else at the end of the day osama bin laden's death is about much more than just this one great he became a symbol for all the fear in this country that allowed for lives to be spread to push us into a state of constant war he was used by the bush administration to launch not one but two wars and i've yet to meet a single person who can tell me why we continue to have one hundred thousand troops on the ground in afghanistan if bin laden has been pakistan for years i don't buy that argument and we need to stay in afghanistan so that it can never become a safe haven for al qaeda ever again what a load of crap. that is are you implying that we stay there forever and let's be

real al qaeda doesn't need afghanistan there are now offshoots of al qaeda around the world even more radical groups have sprung up and a lot of it is because of our policies because of our reaction to osama bin laden instead of hunting this one man down capturing him putting him on trial really serving some justice we waged war we waged all out war against terror but terror isn't a country it's not an empire that threatens our existence here is a crime because we didn't treat osama bin ladin like a criminal but instead like this gargantuan villain to have the power to change our entire country we elevated his eyes and now we have in the last ten years added indefinite detention and torture to our record his country we've thrown out due process we've allowed the government to spy on us growth us increasingly encroach upon our civil liberties until it was soon left and a we waged war on the muslim

world not only losing thousands of our own but killing hundreds of thousands of civilians making us not the defender of freedom but the global aggressor and none of that had to happen that was a choice that the previous administration made that this administration has continued and it's something that not enough of us have spoken out against so when i say the vis we really said a lot about who we are as a country i mean people singing chanting the waving flags in the streets over a man's death pundits politicians cheering on torture as if getting this one man makes it ok it makes it moral all the while ignoring this one moment doesn't change anything it doesn't take anything back it doesn't stop our wars and the death and destruction of a brain so who are we this is not what america used to be but i do fear that this is the way that we're going to stay unless we take a look around unless you wake up in a dream that osama bin laden's death has solved our problems and now we can sit

back and relax. no unfortunately the work has only begun to force ourselves to change. it's a ride a which means that we're as specially excited for happy hour and i guess that means we get to go have a real happy hour before we can start at the top of the show. first starters let me just start with a couple of sorry joining me tonight and we're going to introduce you guys are g.'s lauren was there and j. crew are open government strategist i apologise for the horrible that was there we need no introduction they don't either don't need to know who we are or we i don't care i don't want to be a doctor and i'm going to go about what i did so we already railed on ed schultz a little bit tonight for sure but you know looking ridiculous and fat is

a ridiculous word of his american flag but i have to handle that a little too much but you know he's really upset that we don't see country songs about booths about people's ounces and bullets in people's heads coming out about osama bin ladin his dad but there are some people on the internet there's other d.j. hot rod that's like fifty cents protege but have come up with their own club about it so let's let's take a listen. ok does that make you guys want to go to the club. you know listen to the

kind of music in that first song for sure are looking for any reason that they can a party and that is a good one for i think anybody who is like looking at anyone you know it is the club you know i don't know you well i don't know the age of the dance and i will say as somebody from sort of see if they had just made it a little more country version of this i think that maybe you all you want is a better country music and there's all this crap that was made it was more this proves that you can't just auto tune anything and make it sound good i think that's what that does more than any other what it does prove like you said you can i don't mean anything people dance to it well that's what i just have to sound good in order to advance the way but i think it's one of those things because there are so many songs out there that just have these like really foul lyrics that you always find it really funny with like fifteen year old girls or you know. being on the dance floor i just can't wait to see somebody going and. not to mention how charlie sheen still found his way to the songs there is like in a chorus of that song like the winning winning like you know her that you couldn't

do something pop culture oriented without how did she make it and you know people have been feeling really crappy for ten years about osama bin ladin and they've produced crappy music as a result of that i think that's just a catharsis so maybe now we can get on to the good stuff because they've got another system that can move on to be a topic that's not right if you just looking to make a few bucks on a song they capitalize on the right if you know how it is you can let you know did a hero today make money. i think that was that. the sense must be successful somewhere down the road right well you know so a lot of people might be dancing to this a lot of people were cheering and chanting in front of white house on sunday when the announcement was made but this is a video from the new york subway where a guy didn't really have so much success really getting crowded to take a look. this is a group but it is today so we were. here during the.

search. is that the response that we maybe should have seen right is that in new york subway that is exactly the responding you're going to get he's the crazy guy yelling on the subway there's always one having just lived in new york this sums up new yorkers way better than the other images that we've seen for a while you can be quiet just this you're either crazy or freddie while you're trying to do that as a kind of freddie why do you. try that i know how it would go over would not work you should just let it go new york i know that i'm not. sure that you know let's say america had like save the world from some threat and the guy came on and started chanting usa we workers with still ignore it why was i going there is still you know i mean just from my experience writing a new york subway for months and months yes absolutely that i was not going to get a spot that is the wrong crowd when i'm all audience oh you know that is the

takeaway. that's very very very true well i think this is one our audience might like unfortunately because every time you see one of these videos that police brutality you can't help a lot of logic because it just makes you. just messed up ok it also makes you very very angry that is how much this is a copy that took out a drunk old girl and she was just walking any body slammed her and it looks to me like she's. can you believe that ok alona to be fair she was not just walking did you see the park before that she got them shots and whoever it was like trying to hold her camera come on her she were hiding with her mom and her mom with hitting on her to try to calm her down but does it mean she was eager to do something you started punching or i don't know i think obviously is a totally acceptable response for you know being on. the right that's all that it's a totally reasonable reaction no she was sat on and then you go every day what do you guys like actually before i came in here you know they're not no but i just

bought a body slim if i can do the work i don't know where you come home you body slam your life over you know who doesn't. isn't that like you just normal response i thought i mean there's just a natural kind of. a few people were trying to really apologize for the cop in our editorial meeting this morning and they thought maybe she was so drunk that it really matters that hard who has the momentum and so it looks like a body slam but. i want to i want to see what they're saying to defend there's no way they didn't i mean i think i got suspended or he got put on you know yeah he was i mean he was at my all right by the way that video is over march so finally somebody noticed they had it on the internet this whole time right it's just cause we have our last story i just want to fit in florida i just passed a law it's two thousand and eleven and they just ban the beastie ality you know what they've been n.b.c. already based on the protection of a girl and i am i just i was proud to live in a country where goats are protected so strongly but that girl is not. was you know

then they can be really good points there so it's protected ok i'm sure that if she had pressed charges or she had made a complaint this would have been a great deal because this obviously didn't get caught because she didn't complain about it it's just been hanging on the internet and you are going to. remember it well there are tons of people watching they were just chilling watching the cop do that they didn't do anything he didn't even notice really but back to the beach situation i don't know how this is going to be exit. terms of cases like i mean are they going to actually have a rape kit on goats are we going to be getting taxpayer money investigating that also how do you prosecute the already paying reseller i do that's a good question it's really a saudi border that you got to go get it if i think you made the best part of the night though jake is the fact that people will stand around because they're too scared to say anything to a cop that might be body slamming or beating a fifteen year old but they'll say something about it because it was i have to wrap it up. that's a pretty nice show thanks for tuning in to make sure you come back on monday the u.s. reportedly gets whenever really no spends six times as much on our military than

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