more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world is seeing on the streets of canada. before asians rule the day. eleven thirty am in moscow the headlines the u.s. and e.u. threaten the syrian government with fresh sanctions on for its latest crackdown on protesters around thirty people thought to have been killed in anti-government demonstrations across the country private. russian troops holed up five more a personal for a major parade in central moscow to display will be the centerpiece of the upcoming big three day celebrations in russia.

the number of shootings in us schools and screens not dampening the enthusiasm of thousands to defend their second amendment liberties pro-gun lobby in the country argues that freedom to bear arms should even extend to taking them on a plane. nearly seven decades after the end of the second world war public opinion in different countries or mean split over who contributed most to the victory that's the focus of discussion in our interview show spotlight with al gore and coming up. hello again or welcome to spotlight. on time i'll bring up and today my guest on

the show is. shall you more than sixty five years after the end of the nazi regime public opinion in different countries is split over who contributed most to the victory some praised. what others shared the sacrifice between the allies others don't even know who was at war with food how should we treat the world war two and what is the most balanced. here's the president of the moscow school of social and economic sciences. shortly after the liberation of paris not in forty four held in france show the people consider the soviet army as their main liberators now almost seventy years on people in europe seem to have a different viewpoint on this. believes there are a number of reasons he says while some countries value the world war two legacy the

others nearly forget it so is the world war two becoming an. interesting only for historians here's our guest. you're welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us today. well first of all speaking about the history a world war two is it interesting today only for historians or should it be a matter of interest for why the pope was it should be definitely. true. public opinion if this assessing. about about the. future extent it actually happens it's an argument that. people who know quite a lot of things there are minority and people who. know about it look exceedingly surprised. about facts but which seemingly.

well you you taught in many countries and you lectured lectured people of different where did you see the best knowledge of the history of the second world war in eastern europe. russia and russia put them such places you through and. why because because when you think because these were the countries that suffered a lot or because the communist propaganda. noising to begin v tietz because you know family peace summit which is usually a grab for example no longer father grandfather who was involved either getting himself or just fighting. but zanny you have it. much closer to oneself dislike the living history when you give the stories for

leisure centers musically so the numbers of people who actually close. getting down as years go by so the ignorance is rising yes i think so spotlights people in the streets rushing to london paris which country contributed most to the victory of the nazis let's now listen to opinions from different parts of the world . the us chorus i mean they helped with the investing of the war and everything else i would say. the u.s. or france. france united states i think. they have yes. i have nothing to look. at and. i don't know. i

think it would be great friends. and. supporters because. it would involve the longest the involved at the start i mean. the americans. look to mali i think you i. recently joined by my father was in a war. and because of him and his colleagues behaved star i say russia being one of them and also just a source says they actually contribute quite a great deal to winning this war. in the first place england in the second the united states. in the third place i'd say to call an ism. my god. i have nothing to do and why is the english in first place. because churchill was the leader who

succeeded best in countering the germans i think. it is militarily it's the united states its objectives i think just after it's the soviet union after all it lost sixty to sixty two million civilians i think all countries which were massacred contributed to the victory over nazis and i just. i don't know the ras well down. to well i think i think the reason for the people praising the us is that in italy saving private ryan i mean the movie because it was fantastic and things like that i like true stories which people remember but i can understand that but what would just take why don't people know a lot about the soviet contribution which wasn't all. well. maybe we don't show was a side of the story i mean the russians know you can't show this side of the story

you have to get. to people who are subject about it and. on that basis some understanding fundamentally saying people old people because. the police are going to schools and universities is extremely limited and ventura county thirty bit of knowledge. go by. more newspapers or something like that well i've got a newspaper quote here it actually shows how the public opinion was changing how it was transformed ever since our after the war after nine hundred forty four the new forty five here's a quote from a french newspaper called diplomatic. in with support around one thousand nine hundred forty four right after paris had been liberated parisians were pulled in

which country contributed most to the victory sixty one percent said it was the soviet union twenty nine percent thought it was the united states sixty years later the same organization asked the same question this time twenty percent said it was the soviet union and fifty eight percent the united states after the reading of the read only continued to diminish. do you think this is the reason i don't have a say do you think the reason for this is the cold war the post cold war not dealt with was the closest thing because it blocked any possibility to get something of a thirty four gallons of fuel of what was happening. and it was enough. i would say there are some others about them because well

here you mentioned things that were really happening on the ground during the war on the occupied territories near the fronts do people people in the west today students do they have any idea of the german behavior of the behavior of the nazis of the atrocities and occupied. and it doesn't matter because it's difficult to imagine. i mean the cool cool to a wall of this table. was humans and a normal englishman. would consider the human and impossible to imagine. i seem to. be sufficient to stop people from inquiring or. something like. there is a very good quote from george orwell once wrote that who controls the present

controls the past and who controls the past controls the future do you agree that people in power governments the presidents will always want to grab history and to control the history of their country and made author of the world no doubt about that and what a dull for fact is the extent to the church people you know of the different countries which includes in your russia and england. two countries written know best is. fundamentally this very powerful. defiance of what is happening there's a why are we trying to get support get money get funding get the standing from governments when we when we explore this we shouldn't shouldn't the word the word of historians be considered as destructive anti government or.

you know this is some two for one of it's not that people will stop talking easter they will simply get even the worse information of the event versus a deal of these should happen then. what is happening at the moment. discerns vocal his turn is you useful because it gives a small. is independent and independent historian something that is possible today a person who is not who is not subsidize not funded not supported by government agencies. what is possible definitely is abundances. that is somebody who assumes a self-evident. one story of world history. and

the moment you accept that this follows a better understanding comes the moment people accept. it as world and one is the two and one general runs over history. do you do you happen see a lot of people that. countries which have more of it in countries which have less of it and. levels of education because from all much your way of sin and fall from personal relations especially by students i know the. people. you know says shannon president of the moscow school social and economic science says the spotlight will be back shortly after the break so stay with us we'll continue this interview in the.

twenty years ago the largest country in the. vicinity of racism of. what had been a tremendous. speed generator. where did it take them. millions died. and millions looked forward to be held and say. the pain and suffering will never be

forgotten. as well as the joy of moderation. here a spring of nineteen forty five on our cheek. rock about the spotlight i'm just a reminder that my guest in the studio today is turned all challis and president of the moscow school of social and economic sciences we're talking about the second world war the war. in which not the germany was defeated by allies who were trying to understand why people today don't have enough knowledge back then what should be well in the very beginning you said the big shit people should study that one isn't a time to forget for example you spoke about old people telling the stories my

granny never told me the stories about the war she was that the front she was sure was in moscow she was under the shelling she she saw people die next door in the street but she never told the story and she never watched war movies she said i want to forget and i want you to forget it don't you like this attitude towards tragic moments in this very same concern. on the home on the sings we were both of her get but to forget is not to to feel guilt is not to know and to lose b.v.t. to understand the future and. to stand because we are in this sermon so sing of the scholars. this is the kind of companies that we share a long night. here and. he. accepted that is the feeling that you have to know because you are.

able to understand it of today and also to be performed against. which can happen. russia was among the winner is the main winners in world war two but he said i understand who we are if we want to explain to the people of this country that we are a nation of winners is remembering we're enough today after sixty four years to not to because one has to say the. country who grows the first. people. who finds himself fighting against nazi his. one a year after become to believe into the hands of the german.

food michael and all the same to you as well because the company used against. this is going to be pakistan because of and the bankruptcy and we're also we were a country of. which after nine hundred forty five after the end of the war watched as other countries first of all the united states took advantage of the results because this is to understand how complex this story is he's extremely important and by the way. that is to my belief of my students who are good historians and some of them. understand their leaders today bunch better other winners in war is in general. if we look if we look a hundred two hundred thousand years into the history our the real winners in wars were not. you know. even to be.

is not a story. or a pink story of everybody being unbelievably. he was but but he ended miserably so as the area you are asked you last i mean i mean you have to understand the cause even though other people. didn't lose so the whole thing is to get people to stand the complexity of the eyelet and as such it's an extremely useful exercise let's get back to to the state of the relationship of the states and historians like yourself in teaching history in remembering history what should be the world you said historian should be independent he should be balanced but what's the role of the state. you know all of this the terms understood this and get on to governing first us in the states because their governments which will

meet thirty balanced picture. of the past and their countries if it isn't permitted if you do a country which is kind of typical and it's balanced. reasonable of a way of looking at seeing scandinavia say take an example that's a compass for people to understand a little better thing. on early to hear. it because i. thought. those things which should be told one of the arguments is that knowledge good knowledge of the second world war the results of the second world war and the events of the second world war are good arguments against neo nazis today do you agree no doubt no doubt it is an argument again not seasons of stripes it is also. a lesson in how.

this loose battles. because they did not know how to group the situation and how to handle their later but what makes neo nazis and popular in russia it is becoming popular these days we should is mic why in a country which you say has a good knowledge about the war we remember we remember the ones they still are and what we see people like that marching in the streets of russian cities it's it has been exceedingly insufficient knowledge of what was greater. or less of it the meaning the. united states the people dog little about so so so are you you you get what you're saying is that the russian students' knowledge of the world is not sufficient. you know it's not in your opinion that it is sufficient perfectly. because there's

a problem how you teach in this. good school a good university kitchen of a vision of the people listen to it because they say why do say on the one hand on the other on the one hand you see the other. the odds are. not to say what is to the british system of education is exemplary for many so then why would a british prince where the swastika to a nightclub you remember that thing is it is just a joke or maybe these films and these these what may be here is knowledge and makes a sort of you know fancy trying to dress like. i think it's a first league girl stupid. because. i have and this is. video to us because i don't i don't question the education inside the well family service so what should have happened to make them to think there were say the

dedication. is not always the best of luck to be annoyed some divert of their lives of so they often say themselves that they have about the etiquette of the state because maybe they're just being modest kids very modest and although i don't think so it may be some types of publicity about subterfuge their lives. people in the streets of moscow let's get back to moscow are you know who made the greatest contribution to the victory in the second world war here are the words of people well. there's no doubt that russia contributed the most to the victory over nazi germany i'm seeing it not just because i'm russian myself but because it's true lost the most lives we fought from the very beginning until the end of that war unlike the allies we saved the world that's all there is to it. i think it was the u.s.s.r.

because according to official data the u.s.s.r. lost the most soldiers nazi germany his country the hardest as far as i know from history classes the allies participated a lot less than the us has are. so you think the soviet union contributed the most because the war was nearly on its territory and many people were killed the west help too but this week three was important to everyone we will never forget their names yet. i think the country that unfortunately no longer exists the u.s.s.r. contributed the last of the victory over nazi germany why did because the u.s.s.r. mobilized all its resources and freed not only its own territories but other countries as well. i'm convinced that the soviet union contributed the most to the victory over nazi germany despite the actions of the country's leadership and so few people won the war sacrificing millions of lives.

well so here we have these opinions but people certainly know the main thing that we contributed dead dead dead dead most of the battles were on the russian soil but there are gaps in the knowledge of russians on doing and especially i mean their knowledge of the role of the allies i think. peace beach was presented is a very good to explain. much this knowledge is luck because the first sentence and your piece i noticed. the v. for longest are unbelievably here we join the two year. two years in which the knot is nearly over. because. steve did not sink to the concert a lot of my kids which then later used against the better plan to as

a matter of fact this was this was a very clever trick by the soviet propaganda because because they separated the great patriotic war of russia against germany from the second world war this was the great patriotic war the dates are forty one too many forty five and that's it. no problem no you don't know africa and so one second this was the soviet propaganda trick to make the russian people believe that we were only we fought in the war and there's capitalists they couldn't have been really our allies right. this is what we were taught when we went to school. if you do all of this is out of this young. i'm very keen on the. moderates and. the clips. you sold there not just well. thank you thank you very much for the weather center just to remind that my guest in the studio today was to al

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