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hello again a lot of the spotlight. on. our going out and today my guest on the show is killed or shania more than sixty five years after the end of the nazi regime public opinion in different countries is split over who contributed most to the victory some praised their how what others shared the sacrifice between the allies others. who was at war with food how should we treat the world war two and what is the most balanced. here's the president of the moscow school of social and economic sciences. shortly after the liberation of paris not in forty four the poll held in france shoulder people consider the soviet army is their main liberators now almost seventy years on people in europe seem to have

a different viewpoint on this. believes there are a number of reasons he says while some countries value the world war two legacy the others nearly forget it so is the world war two becoming and i thought that all interesting only by historians yes i guessed. the shine your welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us today. well first of all speaking about the history of world war two is it interesting today only for historians or should it be a matter of interest for them. it should be definitely. true. public opinion if the assessing. not out of the. to reach extent it actually happens is an argument that people know quite a lot about in their own minority and the people who. know about

it look exceedingly surprised to hear about facts which seemingly. well you you taught in many countries then you lectured lectured people of different nobodies where did you see the best knowledge of the history of the second world war and it's still your business. there are support of portland and such places for you too and. why because because what would you think because these were the countries that suffered a lot or because the communist propaganda. noising to begin v.t. to because you know for many people something you do which is usually a grandfather it's of the longer father. who was you know volved either getting himself shot or just fighting. zennie you have it.

much closer to oneself dislike the living history when you hear the stories from measure enters the exactly zero numbers of people who actually said close. down as years go by nature so the ignorance is rising yes spotlight i ask people in the streets are rushing to london paris which country contributed most of the victory over nazis let's now listen to opinions from different parts of the world. the chorus i mean they helped with all the investing of the war and everything else i would say. the us or france. france united states i think. they have.

enough to look. at and as i. think it will become a brand. in. sports because. it will involve the longest involved at the start i mean. the americans. look to money i think you guys. recently going by my father was in the last. because of him and his colleagues making its time russia being one of the one or so states or says they actually contribute quite a great deal to winning the sick or. in the first place england in the second the united states. and the third place i'd say the cone is a. my god. i have nothing to. do and why is the

english in first place. because churchill was the leader who succeeded best in countering the germans i think. militarily it's the united states it's objective i think just after it's the soviet union after all it lost sixty two sixty two million civilians i think all countries which were massacred contributed to the victory of a nazi is on at least. i don't know the mass well down. to well i think i think the reason for the people praising the us is definitely saving private ryan i mean the movie because it was fantastic and things like that i like true stories which people remember but i can understand that but what just think why don't people know a lot about the soviet contribution which was enormous well because

maybe we don't show was part of the story i mean the russians. show the side of the stork you have to get. to people who know something about it and. on that basis some understanding fundamentally saying people old people because. too easily into schools and universities is extremely limited and when you're counted thirty bit of knowledge you go. more newspapers or something i think well i've got a newspaper quote here it actually shows how the public opinion was changing how it was transformed ever since our after the war after nine hundred forty four and only forty five here's a quote from a french newspaper called diplomatic. in september nineteenth

right after paris had been liberated the reasons were pooled in which country contributed most of the retreat sixty one percent said it was a soviet union twenty nine percent thought it was the united states sixty years later the same. ask the same question this time when two percent said he wants some real human and and fifty eight percent the united states. to dictate the reading of the red army continues to diminish. do you think this is the reason i rather say do you think the reason for this is the cold war post cold war no doubt that was because because it blocked any possibility to get something of a just before parliament a few of what was happening. and that was enough. i would

say some others but nothing more than you come here you mentioned things that were really happening on the ground during the war on the occupied territories near the front do you western people people in the west today students do they have any idea of the german behavior of the behavior of the nazis of the atrocities and i can quite see. it doesn't matter because it's difficult to imagine i mean the cool cruelty. of this title. sequence and normal englishman. would consider it and human and impossible so you margin. i think that. that is sufficient to stop people film inquiring. or something like. there is

a very good quote from george orwell once wrote that who controls the present controls the past and who controls the past controls the future do you agree that people in power or governments the presidents always want to grab history and to control the history of their country and maybe the world. to go to and vote a go for thirty is that the extent to which people of different countries which includes in europe and england. the poor countries which know best is. fundamentally this stereotype of. defiance of what is happening there's a why are we trying to get support get money get funding get the standing from governments when we when we explore this we shouldn't shouldn't the word the work

of historians be there be considered as destructive anti governmental or. you think this is some two for one of it's not that people will stop talking least they will simply get even worse information of even worse a deal of these happen. what is happening today not so this is develop of the stern is you useful because it gives a small. is independent and independent historian something that is possible today a person who is not who is not subsidized not funded not supported by government agencies. what is possible these are balances system that is somebody who. is self-evident. never once thought about history.

the moment you accept that this follows. the standard comes the moment people accept. that one has to do and one. over history. do you do you see a lot of people that look down. to their countries which have more of it and countries which have less of it and. levels of education because from almost here we have seen unfold from personal relations especially. i know the. people. you know says. president of the moscow school of social and economic science

spotlight will be back shortly after a break so stay with us we'll continue this interview in the. millions died. and millions forward to be helped and say. the pain and suffering will never be forgotten. as well as the joy of moderation. here a spring the nineteen forty five on our. mission

french accreditation free transport charges free commissions three cheers free speech stooge chives free. speech channels free von gentz quality video for your media projects and free media down to our teeth on tom. we'll. have. much. what about a spotlight i'm al good of in just a reminder that my guest in the studio today is turned on shyly the president of the moscow school of social and economic sciences we're talking about the second world war the war. in which nazi germany was defeated by allies who were trying to understand why people today don't have enough knowledge back then which

should be well in the very beginning you said that they should and people should study that one isn't a time to forget for example you spoke about old people telling the stories my granny never told me the stories about war she was not the front she was she was in moscow she was under the shelling she she saw people die next door in the street and she never told the story and she never watched war movies she said i want to forget it i want you to forget it like this attitude towards tragic moments in history no sink it's along. on the home menacing she would like to forget but to forget is not the first full day it is not to know and to lose believe you to understand the future and clues are disturbed because of what we are in this sermon so sing bost of the scholars. this is the kind of company to be sure

long might. your licks here. we. accept that is the feeling that you have to know because then you are. able to understand that of today and also to be clear. against some. which can happen still russia among the way they are is in world war two but he said i understand who we are and if we want to explain to the people of this country that we are a nation of winners is remembering we're enough today after sixty five years in to not to because one has to save the. country who grossed the first. of people. come to. find them so

fighting against nazi is. one a year i've come to believe it into the hands of the german. food metal and all the things the use for war which was then promptly used against . them this is going to repurpose them because of and developing and we're also we were a country or. which after nine hundred forty five after the end of the war watched as other countries first of all the united states took advantage of the results of this cause so in this system the stand so complex the stories he's extremely important. that is to my belief of my students who are good historians and some of them. understand their leaders today better other winners in wars in general. if we look if we look at two hundred thousand

years into the history are there real winners in wars we're not i think there are you know. even to be. is not a story. or a kink story of everybody being unbelievably. very day he was killed but he ended miserably so as the area he lost your employer last i mean i mean you have to understand the kind of cause even though a lot of people. didn't. so the whole thing is to give people the complexity of the ality and as such it's an extremely useful exercise let's get back to to the state of the relationship of the states and historians like yourself in teaching history in remembering history what should be the world you said a historian should be independent he should be balanced but what's the role of the

state. did all of this the terms understood this of the governing first was interesting because there are governments which will meet thirty balanced picture. of the past and their countries of it isn't permitted if you come to visions kind of typical and it's going by loans and reasonable way of looking seeing scandinavia say to take an example that's a country where people understand a little better thing. on early to hear. about it because i. thought. just things that should be told one of the arguments is that knowledge good knowledge of the second world war the results of the second world war and the events of the second world war are good arguments against million ounces today do

you agree no doubt no doubt it is an argument again. isms of startups it is also. a lesson in how. much is loose battles. because they did not know how to handle the situation and how to handle their little but what makes neo nazis and popular in russia it is becoming popular these days we should izmit live in a country which you say has a good knowledge about the what we remember we remember the ones they still are but we see people like that marching in the streets of russian cities it's it has been exceedingly insufficient evidence of what was being or. less of it the meaning the . united states the people don't talk about them so so so

you you you what you're saying is that the russian students knowledge of the war is not sufficient. no in your opinion beth it is sufficient perfectly by doing because there's a problem how you teach in this. i believe is good school a good university teaching a very vision of the people listen to it because they say why do say on one hand on the on the other on the one hand you see those of the other. they are. not to the british system of education is exemplary for many so then why would a british prince where the swastika to a nightclub you remember that thing is it is just a joke or maybe these films and these these may be here is knowledge makes a thought about you know fancy trying to dress like. i think it's. good or stupid. because. of a and this is.

video it's because i don't i don't question the education inside their well family sir so what should have happened to make them to think there were said to. me is not of is the worst of the case to be annoyed some diverts of the lives of so they often say to myself that they have about the etiquette of the step because maybe they're just being modest kids very modest and no i don't think so it may be sometimes it's modest about something it's their lives. people in the streets of moscow let's get back to moscow are you know who made the greatest contribution to the victory in the second world war here are the words of people. there is no doubt that russia contributed the most to the victory over nothing

germany i'm seeing it not just because i'm russian myself but because it's true lost the most lives with forth from the very beginning until the end of that war unlike the allies we saved the world that's all there is to it. i think it was the u.s.s.r. because according to official data the u.s.s.r. lost the most soldiers nazi germany had its country the hardest as far as i know from history classes the allies participated a lot less than the us s. r. . so you think the soviet union contributed the most because the war was mainly on its territory and many people were killed the west help too but this week three was important everyone will never forget their names yes. i think a country that unfortunately no longer exists the u.s.s.r. contributed the most to the victory over nazi germany why did it happen because the u.s.s.r. mobilized all its resources and freed not only its own territories but other

countries as well. i'm convinced that the soviet union contributed the most to the victory over nazi germany despite the actions of the country's leadership the soviet people won the war sacrificing millions of lives. well so here we have these opinions but people certainly know the main thing that we contributed that that that that most of the battles were on the russian soil but there are gaps in the knowledge of russians on the ng and especially i mean their knowledge of the role of the allies i think. piece of each was presented. is very good to explain how much this knowledge she's lucky because the first sentence and because i noticed was the. longest. unbelievably here we join the board after two years. two years in which you know it's nearly over. because.

steve did not think the country a lot of much of which then later used against us as a matter of as a matter of fact this was this was a very clever trick by the soviet propaganda because because they separated the great patriotic war of russia against germany from the second world war this was the great patriotic war the dates are forty one to may forty five and that's it there's no problem no you don't know what africa and so once this was the soviet propaganda trick to make the russian people believe that we were the only we fought in the world and those capitalists they couldn't have been really our allies right . this is what we thought when we went to school the two video of this is out of this young man. very keen on. oh you knowledge and you

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