no you're without the headlines. across lots of victory day around great best to kick off in the capital we look back at some of the historic battles of the second world war. efforts and try not to consume and. nato stages a new attacks against colonel gadhafi forces in libya and leaders of the international coalition of one of the countries that cost and coos and hard to bear. and critics say america's interest for democracy in the middle east is being distorted by its

continued presence in iraq despite promises to withdraw us is accused of trying to control neutrals results in some prolonged ideology. in the west russians that role in world war two has often somewhat distorted a vessel of history at university college cork geoffrey roberts explains to our team is very different some perception of a simple contributions of victory. victory day is very special to all russians almost every family in russia has someone who died fighting the nazis to talk about how that war is perceived now more than sixty five years later i'm joined by a professor of history and international relations jeffrey roberts from university college cork a soviet who wrote a number of books devoted to the world war two and joseph stalin professor thank

you very much for being here now your views are often challenging the widely accepted perceptions let's start with the second world war twenty seven million people lost their lives in what here in russia is called the great patriotic war how many people worldwide do you actually know how big this figure is i think it's a shock it's a shock to the people outside of russia and the former soviet union that the cost of that war. you know that the statistics are astronomical you compare twenty million soviet it with. something less than four hundred thousand it's really not. and so the africans and more people. because of all countries in fact there's many a school or country has been born here so i think it's shocking as well as surprising but never the suffering the sacrifices of the sort of people who grow up

perfect world are quite well known nowadays can they sense the end of the cold war there's been. progress recognition of the soviet role in the second world war i think that most people globally if they know about the war talk would agree with except it was primarily the soviet union that one was made great sacrifices was the great inspector of the world didn't win the war zone by any means one in association with britain the united states and other countries but nevertheless you know the soviet union was the key to victory. of the nazis in the second novel but as a historian do you feel there is a tendency to rewrite history or there's always a tendency to want to rewrite history isn't there particularly bawdy politicians people are not the story and. every country has its own perspective on the world and every country sees the war from a some perspective and the same is true of russia you know so for example one example of russians will stress you know the relevance of the winning the war to

someone whose business is british press britain israel the other part of the world is standing alone because. muslims will come from the was in the order of alliance with nazi germany for was so certain a country seized from a difference by placing a different emphasis i don't see that as a problem often see us come natural part of the discussion about all aspects of history that goes on let's take a modern young generation is there a deficit of historical knowledge if you're very definitely yes which is why i'm so glad that television stations like yours take the boat so much taller salute to history yes i think there is as a deficit in russia and then i mean a lot of countries but let's take for example the united states if we're talking about the knowledge deficit i wonder just how many americans think that the united states one of the second world war singlehandedly yeah i think probably in the case

of the united states there's probably more ignorance of the general picture of the world than there is in other countries so for your own with other countries in the war in the united states and elsewhere and not doesn't just in the war under strictly conflate say britain the but as you say the holy war does ocean of the war presenting it as a it was the americans that that won the war now having said that of course the united states to play a very important role in the world was the soviet union's nineteen support main supply but nevertheless i was so. i would people say that they should recognize our country's roles as well because it calls the russian contribution a sort of consolation to them last year when russia commemorated the sixty fifth anniversary of the three day a russian research center found that most russians believe that the red army the soviet union could have defeated hitler without wrester assistance as a historian do you think it's paper is on part of the russians now what hope is he

preserving its troops at the submarine could have if it's a nazi germany on its own but it would have taken them a lot longer on the red cross and of course the taking the country much longer term problem off to the subsecond war so yes it was sort of we didn't ultimately need to win the war but. it's launched with particular united states and great britain. helped to win the world acquitted on all the global boys because your book scholars was from world war two the cold war for focuses on stalin obviously in one of your interviews you said he was a key historical figure of the mix twentieth century but he also said that you had a lot of respect for him why the word respect. i'm not sure used the word oh maybe i did were used the word suspect but some some people accused me of being an admirer or stalin which are not so but having studied him very closely for many

years i'm very impressed by studying if you want to call impressed and respect him i'm not sure it's the word we would all use only bicycle oil michael trollies well she's got no doubt struggling. with his contribution it's very risky you know to quote public if that was sold to you you would have lost the world must have not consider him to be that important historical figure if that's true and of course he's. the most important figure of the mid twentieth century and one of the most important thing because of the twentieth century or so even more important than then i think but you know one of i may be impressed by starving but i'm also very critical of studying particularly the many crimes that were committed by human black and his regime you know should be criticized and praised in equal measure

price for his role in the great pet project bill criticized for a dictatorial rule. so what in your opinion was his role in winning that i think the most important thing about his role was that he he held his in the kind. of the cohesion of his leadership and over and over the group of people around him and i think you also inspire confidence inspire confidence not just in these. cool and among the soviet elite but among the soviet population. in general so he's the kind of is the symbol that holds the whole country together a signature of the critical of the not so will the only that he's also the mainstay of the soviet war with the whole war with revolves around him about his abilities as an organizer eyes of a mr writer as a coordinator as

a leader so i don't really think you can you can underestimate stylings role think he's he was indispensable and i doubt that anyone could have taken his place what about churchill roosevelt how did they perceive. or they perceived him very positively. they were great friends of his they referred to him as. and this really has gone very well the wartime summit sort of terrible until took on this noble point about stalin calls you know my kind of positive view of starling the world. that is not unique to me i mean it's a beautiful spitz widely shared not just in russia also not western historians and of course abbott's line of soldiering the war it during the second world war it was widespread recognition of the importance of study so stalin was not just a great hero of the soviet people here and second world war he was the great hero of the allied peoples as well including maybe not hero to stalin.

churchill and roosevelt but they certainly. greatly. appreciate you and you see his role in the world of course that contemporary you start proposing a few delegates last the second world war in the context of the outbreak of the cold war the the failure to write down of the ground laws maturing in britain the sort of the united states although i would say. for stalin and the soviets i was not a stalin the soviet union once he had. a cold war the. freud to avoid a cauldron indeed also the cold war broke out. i went to great lengths to actually bring the cold war. to an end so on the western side once the cold war as broken up it was a much more positive engagement with the cold war whereas on the soviet side there

was a reluctance to become involved in the cold war and continuous efforts to revive you know the ground lots one of the great themes of post-war soviet foreign policy is that these are to retire but rather once there is an initiative in russia these days to officially recognize crimes of silence and i think korean regime some go it's always putting stalin and hitler on a level. do you believe they are historical equals. no i don't think stallions crimes are very different from those crimes under stalin wasn't. a killer. stallion was an idealist and utopian and he believed that it was necessary to use violence to achieve these television programs taught that drive towards this calling she tokyo a lot of people of people thought it people who stalin perceived as being his and the maize and the enemies of the soviet system. kill people

because of their rice style they had people killed because of what he saw as being their politics and ideology and on balance i think that's that's better than being the genocidal killer like you learn because the thing about stalin is starlin defeat if hitler had hitler won the war what would have happened there would have been a nazi germany to europe and ethnic cleansing of mass murder genocide on the continental scope for me there's no greater historical criminal than hitler stalin certainly was guilty all across i wouldn't put him in the same league as abel but do you believe that's an opinion right richard outside the circle of historians well it's the idea that stalin and hitler were equals as criminals causes very much annoyed to the whole world and the idea to change it and then many people die in

a case where you know enough that you want to continue the cold war and one of the ways they pursued the cold war shrewdest ideological struggle including about closing about stalin and hitler so it's an idea that does have quite widespread appeal but i think that you know maybe not most people the last people would recognize that stalin there's a lot of good. as has a lot of love as well as a lot of bad styling. played a huge role historically what was and was of service to humanity as a whole can actually win in the helping to win the second world war professor roberts thank you for this and thank you.

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thank you carry hello welcome to sport and here's what's making the headlines this hour russia lose two defending champions the czech republic of the world championships public is already assured. in russia builds naaman says cause about a tasty mosco dobby beautiful finishing all square in the capital. and it's victory day for the whole joke of it. all in the madrid miles this final way no with the spaniards on clay. it's one of the biggest rivalries in international eyes hockey and in the world championships russia went down to the czech republic in the group stages three to the final score in slovakia alexander ovechkin playing the defeats playing in the defeat for russia his first game since joining the school

after the washington capitals was dumped out of the n.h.l. playoffs both the czechs and the russians were already through to the second round how well but in group after meanwhile swinton's win over switzerland was an all to see this was eliminated from the sea is so immense staying in bratislava where the continental hockey league will see another country join its ranks and they have put prague becoming the first slovakian club to sign off their quest to test themselves against the giants of the european game such as some of us who live see and hear winning the best each other title last begins from the next season up and coming the telly inside the milan devils are also hoping to get the go ahead for the same year. to the russian prime a view added spoils have been shouting the latest. securing a point of peace and sunday's opening fakes jan has got opened early onset of the national reach credited with the final touch on the just full minutes to put them in front wanderers drive from andre baroni and then druids in. a level just before

all time brilliant from the former liverpool man. however the only man would have secured all three points when say you don't have a hometown minutes from time. to time and in the mobile and down the aisle to ensuring the point things to mark a long shelf to a good wet from bar on both sides move up to twelve points from seven games to the two a draw. and those sides now three points behind surprise leaders at sequel behind champions in the vatican city to go top of the day top of the table on the day but instead they drew on the one with the much steve elsewhere car moved off the dropzone up the beating spartak moscow and former russian champions are being beat new boys krasnodar. talking english football now and i'm still i that has secured the premier league title alex ferguson's charges big chelsea on sunday meaning they're now a full six points clear of the blues with just two games to go first top strides

from javier in on this and the money of the rich made the difference at old trafford while frank lampard netted long for chelsea elsewhere also will slim title hopes have been denied by stoke before that while wolves edged their way out of the relegation zone following a three one win over west brom later on monday a little pull travel to a full on. now reigning formula one champion sebastian the tile has added to his overall lead in style by making it three wins from four races at the grand prix the german leading for the majority over the race eventually leaving his competition in the dust with plenty of time to spare red bull to mate mark webber and ferrari's fernando alonso came second spectrally by a large margin lewis hamilton started and finished the race in fourth while nico rosberg dropped off to starting the day from second place questions with a late control began in seventh and ended up in eighth place in his three no. now

in town as well fall a doll's thirty eight match winning run on clay came to an end on sunday a noble goal commits disposing off the king of clay in front of ruffo's home crowd in madrid top ranking the doll had beaten the serb an old vinyl of their previous meetings on clay got no this time around the joke is sustaining his incredible form and his winning streak which has now reached thirty four consecutive matches that all showed his character as well playing a number of real importance like the beautiful loved winner at the start of the second set here but overall djokovic they did play and they did just assess to take the title from the defending champion. seven five and six for the final score of this one ruffles laws defeat on play dates back to nearly two years ago while jock going to six title of the season and earned himself a top favorite status ahead of the upcoming french open grand slam.

you know do i do this if. you're really going to screw up the first play for two and it's perfect please do you know really you know this is nice for you to go to but you know i always believed in the first well that it was that or do i do agree . with great. and a playoffs now where atlanta hawks made it to all in the series against chicago bulls on sunday night while all eyes were on double defending champions l.a. lakers who had to climb back from three zero down in the series with dallas but los angeles say goodbye to the playoffs after being stunned for a fourth consecutive time one twenty suits to eighty six the score in dallas the game was effectively. where the mavericks level lakers fights twenty four jason terry with a game high thirty two points including a record nine three pointers for the mavericks helping them to a clean sweep in this series. you know this game tonight was all about defense.

the shooting was great but it would have been able to get you know shooting without those differences stops and i think for us going forward we've got to hang our hat on difference for the mavericks is not new but we've got to get people talking about it now meanwhile panel tonight. as the greeks claiming the title in five years with a win over the television and beefy demetrius a d.m. on t.v. is called sixteen points and was instrumental in closing became outpolled the shamrocks jonathan ike us now live up to second in the overall on a stable on site says moscow well the real madrid solved the list with eight sides . and of course victory days being celebrated across russia from the horrors of war the country saw a number of sporting greats emerge as richard found out. but came in one nine hundred forty s. a special on the kind of force terrorized headless troops and force in one of the

most deadly battles in world history the battle of moscow which started in one thousand forty one it was not just fine for all involved but what qualities helped these men survive the war. when i as the commander had to enlist the locals to my brigade i chose those who weren't complaining it was too hard for them if they complained i told them immediately they were no good for my team therefore insurance was the most crucial quality many sportsman volunteered for the on the vision a many would later become champions of discipline such as boxing athletics speed skating and weightlifting sadly only a small number of these veterans will be able to take part in the reunion but every year those who are still weber's come to this enormous stadium where the division was formed in one nine hundred forty one and commemorate those who passed away and celebrate victory day they will sort of get the much scope and nine hundred forty one when we were retreating we have to make

a huge trip back we were literally falling asleep all walking most were carrying rifles behind our backs and hitting your head against a rifle really major wake up so it was a very difficult but we made the main purpose of on spawn an acronym which translates as the independent special purpose motorized brigade which is served on the home front usually very crude three entrusted with the most dangerous missions such as helping units under tank and defending important crossings equally crucial was their work in reconnaissance as partisans and radio work in misinforming the enemy. one of the members of arms by. it's based form a gym now supporters sculpey and he took up gymnastics when he was just fourteen

years old and by sixteen he'd volunteered for the soviet army and from the beginning sports played a crucial factor is missing bible. i recall once we had to go in to serve a mission and we had to hide and stay practically motionless for three days our task was to observe and determine which way the enemy's traffic was going up and those guys who weren't athletic would even black out while we well i would say was nothing to us but we could handle it we could do it we were fit enough that helped us a lot after the war gulf paid in state in the army his job was to train the red army recruits in gymnastics to meet them. now and they have plenty of other interests here he proudly shows a photo with his friends religion three soviet great city action and he had a major impact of helping with spider become one of the walls greatest ever goalkeepers when the novel moscow was caused by you question and best scoff they invited me to give exercise classes to their football team players so when they

were playing i gave them classes in our gymnastics quarters of the denominator namely i train them to do some acrobatics so that they could for instance fall without hurting themselves. and is aging fulvia he still remains passionate about sports especially gymnastics the goal of this year was that he is not that you see we wanted to be graceful and it may be some easy routine but we wanted to be performed at a very high level then it's a side to adore while what happens now is you see an athlete do a triple turn a triple somersault and that's a very hard thing to do but it doesn't really impress a nonprofessional when they see it as we're featuring day is very important to these veterans who played a pivotal role in the red army during the second world war however it's equally impressive ivy's men went on to have such exceptional sporting careers and i still remembered today by the feats of both to pass on i'm sports fails which i'm told me

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