in the. past now i hear most is this is a russia is holding the ball celebrations to mauled sixty six years since the victory day overanalyse germany in world war two last days for safety's began with a military parade which involved a rapid manner of troops marching through. all of those also being launched calls from a song viewed states but in ukraine has been marred by national exam promising to no morals serve as an option with police then sit ins out it appears the not ignore

vacation is growing in the rest of the country. and all the news fight seems intensified with the late in life libraries of that's wrong also with nato bombings are failing to break the siege of the city it comes as the mounting calls to bear raids in the player range of the campaign trigger protests in denmark which is a coalition member country. the next also talks to a meeting more historian about the soviet contribution to victory over nazi. victory day is very special to all russians almost every family in russia has someone who died fighting the nazis to talk about how that war is perceived now more than sixty five years later i'm joined by a professor of history and international relations jeffrey roberts from university college cork. who wrote a number of books devoted to the world war two and joseph stalin professor thank

you very much for being here now your views are often challenging the widely accepted perceptions let's start with the second world war twenty seven million people lost their lives in what here in russia it's called the great patriotic war how many people worldwide do you actually know how big this figure is i think it's a shock it's a shock to the people of russia from the soviet union that the cost of that war. you know the statistics or astronomical compared to much of millions of it it was the british it was something less than four hundred. thousand so you know it's going to. sort of reference a mortal. because just as a book of all countries in fact there are those many years all of a country has been born here so i think it's shocking it was rather surprising when

there was suffering for us and so the sort of people across the world are quite well known now that is particularly since the end of the cold war there's been. progress recognition of the soviet role in the second world war i think most people globally if they know about the war talk would agree with. that was primarily the soviet union. made it very sort of process was the greatest specter of the war didn't win the war is won in the socialization. in the united states and other countries but nevertheless you know the soviet union was the key to victory over the nazis in the second world war but as a historian do you feel there is a tendency to rewrite history or there's always a tendency to rewrite history isn't there particularly a politician because people are not a story and. every country has its own perspective on the war and every country sees the war from a sort of a spectrum in the suddenness is true of russia you know so for example one example

of russians was stressing of the role of the soviet union in the winning the war some of them as british i would stress britain's role in the early part of the war in standing alone against it when the soviet union was a neutral country and it was a kind of alliance with nazi germany for a while so certainly country sees it from a different perspective places a different emphasis i don't see that as a problem often see that's come natural part of the discussion about all aspects of history that goes on let's take a modern young generation is there a deficit of historical knowledge and you're very definitely yes which is why. the richest nations like yours to devote so much time to to history and yes i think there is as a deficit in russia and in you know a lot of countries let's take for example the united states if we're talking about the knowledge deficit i wonder just how many americans think that the united states

won the second world war singlehandedly i think probably in the case of the united states there's probably more economic support general picture of the war then there is in other countries so it's probably less there's probably less recognition of the role of other countries in the war in the united states than elsewhere not doesn't just apply to russia of course is also. not sufficient recognition of the role that britain played in the war and this prickly complaints and britain as you say the holy war does. of the war presenting it as it was the americans the that won the war now having said that of course the united states did play a very important role in the war was the sort of unions my support my main supply. i was so i would people say that they should recognize our country's roles as well because of course the russian contribution the soviet contribution to the world last year when russia commemorated the sixty fifth anniversary of victory day i

russian research center found that most russians believe that the red army the subnets union could have defeated hitler without western assistance as a historian do you think it's a brace on part of the russians no i don't think it's for something it's true that the soviet union could have defeated nazi germany on its own but it would have taken a lot longer and a much greater cross and of course it would have taken the country much longer to recover off to the sec second world war so yes you know the soviet union didn't ultimately need its allies to win the war but. it's a launch with particular you know in great britain. helped to win the war look with iran what about always been the case in your book stalin's wars from world war two the cold war for focuses on stalin obviously in one of your interviews you said he was a key historical figure of the mix of twentieth century but he also said that you

had a lot of respect for him why the word respect. i'm not sure used the word oh maybe that it will use the word strict but some some people accuse me of being a star which are not so but having studied him very closely for many years i'm very impressed that you want to call being impressed respect i'm not sure it's extra work and what are you selling price it was michael stallings will says but it would start with he. shit with his contribution it's very possible now you might be quite probable that the soviet union would have lost most jim i consider him to be important historical figure if that's true the kind of pulls he's the most important the of the mid twentieth century one of the most important thank you was sent for so even more important than that. i think but you know i have i may be impressed by stuff but i'm also very critical. particularly the

many crimes that were committed by his regime you know you should be criticized and praised because your price for his role in the great pet project will produce all used for his dictatorial rule. so what in your opinion was his role in winning. i think the most important thing about his role was that he he. and. the cohesion of his leadership and of the of the the group of people around him and i think you also inspired a conference in conference not just in his. colon among the soviet leet but among the soviet population in general so that he's to come east is the symbol of the holds a whole country together a sea creature in the critical early months a little known the that he's also

a good mainstay of the soviet war with the whole war with revolves around him about his abilities as an organizer as of the mr right through as a cold night so i was the leader so i don't really think you can you can underestimate stalin's role i think he's he was indispensable and i doubt that anyone could have taken his place or that church in roosevelt how did they perceive what i perceived him very positively. they were great fans of his. they refer to those as and the three leaders go on very well a wartime summit so. you'll talk and that's another point about. a positive view of starlit as a world leader is not you need to really i mean it's a big units that's widely shared not just in russia but also among western historians and of course at the time of some of the jury in the war it during the second article there was widespread recognition of people poems of. stalin was

not just right here at the soviet people during the second world war he was the great hero of the all the allied peoples as well i think alluding. hero to study. churchill and roosevelt but what they see. and appreciate you can see is throw in the knuckles that contemporary view of star very positive you tell gets lost in the second world war in the context of the outbreak of the cold war the failure to write down of the ground in the arts and turning it in a sort of united states i would say. to stalin and the soviet side it's not a stalin sort of you wanted. a cold war you know. freud to avoid the cold or heat off the cold will broke out they went to great lengths to

actually bring the cold war. to an end and so on the western side once the cold war as broken up it was a much more positive engagement with the cold war whereas on soviet saw it there was a reluctance to become you both in the cold war and continuous efforts to revive you know the ground about some of the great themes of post-war soviet foreign policy is that these are it's a return but rather long and there is an initiative in russia these days still officially recognize the crimes of silence and i thought. regime some goes always putting stalin and hitler on a level. do you believe they are historical equals. no i think stalin's crimes very different from those crimes under stalin wasn't a genocidal killer. this time was a mighty this to utopia and he he believed that it was necessary to use violence to

achieve is to utopia in this part of the drive tools. it's people who are perceived as he is and the mace and the enemies of the soviet system. kill people because. of their rice numskull they have people killed because of what he saw has been their politics. and on balance i think that's that's better than being a genocidal killer like his uncles to bring about stalin this kind of stalling a feat if hitler had hit the one the war would have happened there would have been a nazi film in the eighties europe and ethnic cleansing of mass murder genocide on the. full scope for me there's no greater historical criminal than hitler stalin. was guilty. of crimes but i wouldn't put him in the side of the ecosystem which he

believe that sort of thing and why richard outside the circle of historians well i think the idea that stalin and hitler. were equals as criminals causes very much annoyed to the cold and the idea that richer and click on than many people in the west maybe in russia and want to continue the cold war in some form and one of the ways they pursued the cold war serious policy and logical struggle including about war. stalin and hitler so it's an idea that does have quite widespread appeal but i think that you know maybe not most people but lots of people would recognise that stalin did a lot of good as as a rule of law as well as a law that stalin. played a huge role historically what was was of service to humanity as a horrible can actually winning the hopi to win the second world war professor roberts thank you. thank you.

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. just from. ft ft from . breaking news this hour a victory day going to ration is it being modern western ukraine nationalism physically and bubbly is something that trims paying tribute to the ball in world war two means it is adding to these big nonstory cation is a relic of the area. across france or events a man sixty six years since the victory day over analyse germany made small states offensive as east began with a ground military parade which involved a raffle number of troops marching through red square. and all these findings intensified the libyan life like important and strong so when they say bombings

failing to break the siege of the c.c. it comes as the mountain comes to their aid from the unclear aims of the campaign triggered protests and deadlock which is a coalition member country. until it's little but i suppose now with you need good to see you again it's getting increasingly time i just knew that the time of the russian premier league really is all as it's topsy turvy time at the moment not one not two leaders but three teams leading the way in russia at the moment but it's also so close picture over in spain there was no last ripe any just one more point from three games on they are premier league champions once again we've got all the action from god in just a moment. thanks for joining us this is sports today plenty ahead including this. hitting the

heights champion sinitta move a joint top of the russian premier league following a draw with fellow title hopefuls. serbian sensation novak djokovic are classes of what i feel myself in the madrid masters final to stay on beaten in twenty eleven. battle field to sports field veterans from the second world war gathered mussels genome a stadium to celebrate on remember the truth. now they could have taken sole control of the summit but the needs are nevertheless top of the table in the russian premier league today they simply joining surprise packages. there following a one one draw with safe now the game was still scoreless when snape lost goalkeeper purchase love molify up to a knee injury belorussian international yuri filling in from the fifty six minute run but that didn't seem to overly worry the home side at first in fact it was

a neat knob to lead from the spot some eight minutes later done cool lots of h. and man doing the honors the really man though answered within three minutes my call and heading home but really buck up jeff no of should have done better between the sticks one one finished in the north and couple. elsewhere on car moved off the drop zone area after repeating sports moscow routines soft and new poise cross the ball recovering from a one bull's deficit in the process of the day's must be it ended up all score between the nama see a scam. let's go to the game where with munch united old confirmed champions for another season the risk is now on for the remainder of the champions league spots liverpool where it seems with an outside chance of one of the four places they do

need though to win tonight against poland to keep in the hunt visitors there boosted by a full strength squad to choose from tell us mancini car agrees set to make his six hundred sixty six appearance making him second in the club's all time list while fellow i'm not still with the idea of me and the irishman rules hard for the rest of the season after undergoing police surgery. barcelona meanwhile moved ever closer to their third consecutive league title on sunday following victory over city rivals espanyol at the new camp andres iniesta got things going midway through the first half the ten minutes of midfielder brilliantly finding the necessary space one nil pep guardiola was meant double their advantage right so after the break zombies corner kick find a jury p.k. he makes it to how we finish. just a point from their three matches remaining to secure their twenty first spanish.

thirty eight march winning run play has come to an end novak djokovic beating the spaniard for the first ever time on the surface in the madrid masters decider were lumber to joke which he was seeking to extend stunning record of his own serve on beating for roy twenty eleven even to reach thirty four consecutive wins on sunday evening though he wasn't top seed for nothing showing his class with efforts like this at the start of the second set but overall job which dictated the play needing just two sets that claimed a problem for the defending champion seven five six for its sixth title of the season for joker he earned himself favorites that is ahead of the upcoming french open. i cannot be more delighted that you know when to disrupt the first place or say it is perfect place to you know peaceful. support of the crowd but you know i always believed from the first moment

when i said. great. champions are gone in the n.b.a. basketball to rest across los angeles looking like anything but after being swept by the mavericks for nothing in the best of seventeen series one hundred twenty two eighty six was the final score in the game effectively gone by halftime the moderates leaving colby and cole by twenty four jason terry again by thirty two points including a record nine three quarters for the texas men elsewhere the atlanta hawks made it two two for all in the series against chicago but it's at least exit that's making the headlines stateside today. you know this game tonight was all about defense i mean you say the high shooting was great but it would have been able to get that you know shooting without those differences stops and i think for us going forward we got to hang our hat on defense for the mavericks is not new but we're going to

get people talking about it now let's talk all for a. long time friend jonathan bird to clinch his first p.g.a. trophy since two thousand and nine doing what it takes in a playoff to lift the crown of quill hollow it was byrd who held a one shot leading into the final run though it started the day tied for third which stewart cink a thirty one year old four shots but when he followed a birdie on the youth with this eagle on the ten that sequence propelled the american to be outright lead then burst clutch birdie on the eighteenth hole forced to play off taking advantage of clubbers two earlier bogeys. holding his nerve against his college buddy this thought for a par on the win over a million dollars in prize money to the site carline a man's time but. finally it's victory day here in russia the country marking the defeat of nazi germany during the second world war

the spike the horrors of the period russia saw a number of sporting greats emerge as richard brown portrait founded. back in the one nine hundred forty s. a special on the cult of force terrorized hitler's troops and fought in one of the most deadly battles in world history the battle of moscow which started in one nine hundred forty one it was a long arduous time for all involved but what qualities helped these men to survive the war. when i as the commander had to enlist the locals to my brigade i chose those who weren't complaining that it was too hard for them if they complained i told them immediately they were no good for my team therefore injurious was the most crucial quality any sportsman volunteer for the arms one vision and many would later become champions in disciplines such as boxing athletics speed skating and weightlifting sadly only a small number of these veterans will be able to take part in the reunion but every year those who are still with us come to the denominator stadium where the division

was formed in one nine hundred forty one and commemorate those who passed away and celebrate victory day. in one nine hundred forty one when we were retreating we had to make a huge trip back we were literally falling asleep while walking and also carrying rifles beyond our backs and hitting your head against a rifle really need to wake up so it was very difficult but we made it the main purpose of arms bomb an acronym which translates as be independent special purpose motorized brigade to serve on the home front usually very crude for entrusted with the most dangerous missions such as helping units under tank and defending important crossings equally crucial was their work in reconnaissance as partisans and radio work in misinforming the enemy. the but.

when one of the members of arms on his base form of him now spotted skull pierian he took up gymnastics when he was just fourteen years old and by sixteen he had volunteered for the soviet army and from the beginning sport played a crucial factor in his survival. i recalled once we had to go on a survey mission and we had to hide and stay practically motionless for three days our task was to observe and determine which way the enemy's traffic was going those guys who weren't athletic would even blackout while we well i would say was nothing to us but we could handle it we could do it we were fit enough that helped us a lot after the war got paid in stayed in the army is job was to train the red army recruits in gymnastics to make them fit however he had plenty of other interests here he proudly shows a photo with his friend the legendary salvi a great sniff yashin and he had

a major impact in helping the right spider to become one of the world's greatest goalkeepers and when the novel moscow was caused by your question and best score they invited me to give exercise classes to their football team players so when they weren't playing i gave them classes in our gymnastics quarters of the denominator club mainly i train them to do some acrobatics so that they could for instance fall without hurting themselves and it is eighty four year and still remains passionate about sports especially gymnastics ability to see was that hinges whether you see it we wanted to be graceful and maybe some easy routine but we wanted to be performed at a very high level then it's a side through the door while what happens now is you see an athlete do a triple turn a triple somersault and that's a very hard thing to do. but it doesn't really impress a nonprofessional when they see it true day is very important to be's veterans who played a pivotal role in the red army during the second world war however it's equally

impressive have these men went on to have such exceptional sporting careers and i still remember today for the feats of both the battle and sports fields which i don't see moscow. great scenes another is all your sport for you in just under two hours time but the world weather is coming up in just a tick. hungry for the full story we've got at first the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers on t.v. .

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