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i think. we never got the. safe get ready because our freedom. hi guys welcome to shower is hell on the on a shelf we've heard our guests have to say on the topic now i want to hear audience has gone to you tube the video response card to twitter for thought of the question that we've host on you tube every monday and on thursday to show your responses please share your thoughts.
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a member of the obama administration who doesn't really fame to be caught up on its back or maybe it's just reality is he u.s. attorney general eric holder was on an official visit to paris i want to held a joint press conference with the french interior minister he made a statement about guantanamo bay but left a lot of people out there confused he said although we have not closed guantanamo within the time period that we initially indicated it is still the intention of the president and it is still my intention to close the facility that exists in guantanamo really is there a goal there slept through the last oh i don't know year or so get noticed questions yes then presidential candidate obama vowed to shut down the facility within the first year of office but frankly those efforts to shut it down it pretty much stopped altogether thanks in part the outcry from both democrat. it's ad republicans and legislation blocking the movement of detainees to american soil as well as what seems to be a change of heart from the commander in chief in fact obama officially turned pro
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get no earlier this year when he signed an executive order to resume military commissions for detainees there and holder i don't know maybe should have noticed that the president wasn't planning on closing the facility after obama held a press conference explaining that he's going to a forum the white house policy of indefinite detention for suspected terrorists one of the toughest problems is what to do with people that we know are dangerous that we know or. have been gauged in terrorist activity or proclaimed enemies of the united states but because of the manner in which they were originally captured the circumstances right after nine eleven in which they are interrogated it becomes difficult to try them whether in a article three court or in a. military commission. releasing them at this stage could potentially create greater danger for the american people. oh and i
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guess eric holder was also napping that whole massive budget debate was happening because obama's side the budget bill which included a rider stating that no one thought of a detainee would be transferred to the u.s. under any circumstances so keeping all of that in mind how does holder defend his statements and the president still has the intention of closing the facility he's eighty eight detainees they don't just fade away if they can't be transferred to the u.s. under any circumstances where are they going to go hello this point pretty much everybody knows of the president has gone back on his key promise to get moe isn't going anywhere so is holder doing a lame p.r. move try to keep you know the people around the world hopeful about guantanamo or is he really that naive i'll let you decide for his but for his that blatantly false promise about the tension facility eric holder is tonight's top time later. on now even though more than
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a week has passed since the killing of al qaeda leader osama bin laden there are still a lot of questions swirling around his death one of the biggest issues that's being discussed is if the president should in fact release the photos of his death and the video of belongs burial at sea as we all know obama has decided against releasing those photos. it is important for us to make sure that we're very graphic photos of somebody who was shot in the head. are not floating around. as. an incitement to violence as a propaganda tool. but now despite the president's reasoning it several media outlets and political groups are hoping to acquire those contentious images through freedom of information act requests cox news politico judicial watch citizens united and the associated press have all filed for requests to obtain at the photographs and that video now all fox news request was more awful when the
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associated press senior managing editor michael oren ski's makes a solid case for disclosing those images not only to the site the fact that the president vowed to make his administration more transparent than ever before but he also makes an important statement that this information is important for the historical record the risk of explained in an interview with the atlantic wire it's about us saying we would like to make our own news judgments about newsworthy material and as you probably remember the white house had a lot of trouble getting their original narrative straight as to how the operation in pakistan was carried out and the rescues it makes the point that if the videos and the images were released the public can see for themselves what really happened as of now we've only heard of politico not receiving any sort of response from the government but let's talk about the bigger issue at hand out kudos goes to the associated press for calling out the obama administration about its lack of transparency but it also shows that the media is fighting back and i like that they're showing that they're not just going to take
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a simple no for an answer despite how definitive the government's decision on releasing those photos may be even if these outlets don't actually acquire the highly sought images well they're still being heard by the public and you know what we have so see at a price is right isn't it supposed to be left up to the news sources decide if video or images make it to air or decide how the story should be written and shown news organizations are supposed to be the government watchdog not the lapdog that regurgitates everything that they say so i say keep on fighting. now get ready for what is becoming the single largest illegal bit torrent downloading case in u.s. history at least twenty three thousand file sharers are likely to be notified soon that they're being sued for downloading the expendables and no not the incredibly popular animation film i mean the b. list along with sylvester stallone and if you thought of a major hollywood and recording studios and abandon that technique of going after
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individual download and if they'd switch the focus to lobbying washington well then you'd be right this is a whole new ball game that we're talking about the case is being led by the u.s. copyright group a coalition of indie film producers who pioneered a new strategy that most say is all about making money and not about combating piracy now contacting the downloads personally offering a settlement of two or three thousand dollars those that it never goes to court that's the strategy there and most people end up saying yes it sounds like a massive scam but the problem is it's legal and altogether there are about one hundred and forty thousand bit torrent downloads who are currently being targeted in lawsuits across the country so here to tell us more about what's going on is a health care an international activist at the electronic frontier foundation and thank you so much for joining us tonight. first of all if we can start with the basics can you walk us through exactly how these operations out these subpoenas were. well it sure as you mentioned there it is in this particular case the
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u.s. copyright group approaches an independent filmmaker and so there have been people downloading your client and we're going to go and get this information we're going to go find the downloads for you let's go get some money out of them and then we'll split everybody's happy. so what they do has the. rights to enforce the copyright on behalf of the independent filmmaker and then they have some where which they used to find the people who are allegedly downloading films on bittorrent which gives them a list of iraqi addresses which they bring to court in their lawsuit and they say let us go to the ins and find the subscriber information people were using. at that time and is that completely illegal what they do in terms of using that software to go in and get people's ip addresses well certainly as far as we
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know there are not terribly open about the software that they use or where their methodology is where certainly not alleging that any of that is equal we are mostly taking issue with the way that they have put together these lawsuits which is very different from what they are. aged in the past but it would suit one person at a time these lawsuits are being done against thousands of thousands of people all together in a single us so i'm just wondering to you is there any doubt in your mind though that this is not about piracy and this is solely about making money off of people about you know i guess if it's the case. a porn movie that they downloaded about chaining them into it or just some random b. list movie it's about telling them that this is the easier option than going to court give me your three thousand bucks. oh absolutely these trees are not interested in going to court going to court is expensive having to file
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a whole lot of people work is expensive filing briefs isn't as expensive or is shaking people down for. the first settlement money is cheap send them to a website on a form that has one hundred forty thousand people in about a dozen of these cases that are being targeted by similar groups like the u.s. copyright group is anybody investigating this as congress investigating it. into this practice that seems to be on the upswing well of that mostly this this whole issue has been played out in the courts and the electronic frontier foundation is representing people who are. who are being sued right now we are representing a couple of people who are being sued by a great event which is another group which does something similar with. with the newspaper articles and. in the independent lawsuits in the movie lawsuits which again have an additional element of deeply concerned
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about. said do you think this is something that is the future of hollywood or you're going to see more of these independent studios independent filmmakers trying to i guess practice this form of lawsuit perhaps with their money or if their movies aren't big moneymakers because they're indie films this is the way that they really get to cash in. i think that this is something boyer's are trying to talk independent filmmakers into. but honestly not a lot of independent and in filmmakers have gone for it a lot of independent filmmakers understand that this is actually a bad proposition you don't make money by soon your fans and i know that one and only do i think this is not the future but it's not the future because in filmmaking yeah i would i would hope so too i guess hurrying your fans are suing your fans is never a good idea i know that one thing it does i'm working on here too is trying to stop
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so they can just thousands of people together and that you have to sue them in certain locations do you think that that's a policy that's going to work. absolutely and has worked in several cases already these extremely large lawsuits where. were the us copyright group is soon thousands of people at once have in some cases been severed and they have to sue them all in individual districts where or where the people that are suing reside and that's simply not financially feasible for them again soon thousands of people in a single lawsuit is cheap and silly. people all over the country is expensive they're not going to make any money in their i'm likely to do it all right i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight and i guess the message to everyone else out there is if you're going to be downloading porn or. movies that watch out for some of these groups and my people getting letters coming to your house thanks so much thank you. so the cons and i we have my own floods moment
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a lot of us seems unable or maybe it's unwilling to solve the difficult issues that are facing this country and then stick around for happy hour the first lady under fire for a guest that she invited to a poetry reading and a buck congressman under fire for taking his shirt off to cover that and more in just a minute. let's not forget that we sat in the park right. on the well. we never got there for the keep them safe get ready because of the freedom.
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just say. hey guys welcome to show and tell on the alone a show we've heard our guests have to say on the topic now we want to hear our audience just go on to you tube the video respond to twitter for part of a question that we've posted on you tube every monday and on thursday when the show long response is going that we let your voice be. earlier the show we spent probably the first half hour discussing president obama's immigration reform speech today the debate over raising the debt ceiling but let me give you my take on it off camera get that feeling of the u.s. if the country is stuck in neutral for the time being incapable of solving the bigger problems that are a threat to the american way of life and let's start with the issue of immigration how many times have we heard politicians call for a comprehensive immigration reform over the years then politicians can't and won't
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reform a system that's clearly broken we know there are millions of undocumented workers a living in the shadows here in the u.s. and some people on the left actually want an amnesty program to bring those workers into the light to let them start paying taxes and let them become productive american citizens but democrats also exploitable as you know population for their political game space of the hispanic population overwhelmingly supported obama in two thousand and eight he got sixty seven percent of their vote and he promised reform during his first year in office. by now and that didn't happen fast forward today the president was in el paso talking about securing the border promoting the economic benefits of a comprehensive immigration overhaul but hispanic leaders out there believe that obama's sudden interest in reform is too little too late let's face it today's event was just a political ploy ahead of next year's election to help secure that hispanic vote and of course his second term in the white house meanwhile those on the right are
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also exploiting latino population in a completely different way and recent years the g.o.p. is using brown people to scare white people and they claim of latino five relation here illegally is taking away jobs from those hard working americans the real truth latino immigrants provide a huge economic boost to this country but nobody out there wants to talk about so both sides have dug in their heels and nothing happens and again america can't really solve its own problems and we have this upcoming debate over the debt ceiling we all know that washington has. spending grab look we're fourteen trillion dollars in debt and counting so what's the solution well nobody can agree on what it's clear that we need spending cuts but also sometimes increases to help raise our growing debt so we can give tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires but then the middle class gets squeezed we can make cuts to programs operate heating assistance to the poor but g.e. can get away with paying no income taxes in two thousand and ten because that's unfair to you until we give you started of course on the amount of money that this
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country spends funding the military and betting on says that they're making cuts during these difficult times i'm sorry their budget was increased last year so how can washington actually solve our debt issue when neither party is willing to budge both sides once again are digging in for a fight and the real loser is going to be the american people we get a front seat on how washington is out of touch with the rest of america they haven't care either way so at the end nothing gets solved so tonight i have two questions what happened to america what happened to our leadership we don't get off the couch if we don't become politically active hawk leaders in this country countable and we're just going to stay stuck in neutral watch as america continues to decline our system is broken because we don't force politicians to fix it so let's make it happen.
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all right it's time for happy hour tonight and you know it joining me i have alex sites all reporter and blogger for thing progress dot org and the progress reports anarky correspondent lauren lister thanks for joining me tonight you guys i don't mean ana so this is something that actually became a story yesterday and i didn't really think much of it because congressman aaron schock who by the way think is the youngest member of congress he's only twenty nine and well he just happens to have you know washboard abs so now he has a new picture out in men's health magazine where he's on the cover and well you know the audience can see right there the abs they look good but of course people are freaking out some conservatives are freaking out saying that this just isn't appropriate for a congressman and he's really worried about bigger issues i think it's actually nice that we have somebody who's young who's fit who's talking about exercising and staying healthy and eating healthy why do we have to eat on that all the time. you know i kind of i'm with you alone i feel like i'm surprised there's been i guess
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i'm not surprised but i think all of the criticism is a little unwarranted a time when i mean there are people that had been involved in far bigger scandals you had tom de lay who was on dancing with the stars and got pretty prison sentence for money laundering and for conspiracy charges and you know so this poor guy is on a magazine and it's a huge hullabaloo i don't really get it i mean granted it there is something about it it kind of makes me go i don't know but but i just think that there are bigger issues i just make you go i don't know i do have a problem with actually. what i mean they're going to do that is i'm not going to deny that but i think they're too good is actually my problem is i'm thinking that because you know. i don't want my representative in the gym all the time where you know i don't really look like i'd rather him be you know out of shape just shoveled maybe pale because he's behind his desk all day working to represent me and sort of the jamaican to make himself look good but actually a really good i mean you have to kind of a good point but at the same time you don't want a bunch of people that you can't relate with at all right a bunch of old white guys really were just fine with that i was tired and you can
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relate with your taxpayer money going towards people that are working hard yeah we're here i guess you could say that working out is also part of your discipline right paul ryan has been on the airways before and done interviews bragging about his workout regimen that he does every single day you know john boehner is just sitting in the tanning booth the whole time without actually working on the day i was going to praise either of those i would rather see him on the cover of like workaholics magazine than men's health magazine personally i just people have such an aversion to help from this isn't mentioned i think that in an era where you know being on a reality show means that you'll get more air time if you're a possible presidential candidate i think it's a little bit irresponsible to think that people are going to be looking towards these other ways of self promotion in order to get ahead in their political careers very very true good point let's move on to something else the republicans are also whining and complaining about michelle obama has invited the rapper common to do. poetry reading at the white house and so of course
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a bunch of those old white men that probably never listen to rap or probably can't even name you know five rappers are freaking out because of because if you lyrics of listen to a clip here. why are you messing with burning bush close to a p.c. no course no blacks are killing over all the grease no weapons of destruction how can we follow a leader when this is a corrupt warrant it. i think very lyrical take any political but the big deal they're scared i mean if you said burning bush if you can even a little bit attention to rap and i guess it was you comment is like the least offensive least controversial ever there's a guy who teamed up with the jonas brothers to make a song and was in the movie date night with steve. i mean he has political lyrics certainly but he's not talking about you know being in the in the hood dealing drugs and shooting cops i mean it's a bit of there's a couple of like off color lyrics that he's mentioned but in the terms of the spectrum of offensive artists he's. rapping about caesar with one i feel like it's
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actually a really positive sign that they're inviting him into the white house because i think he does bring up a really valid important points that maybe people that are you know far removed from the inner city aren't thinking about every day he raps about incarceration he raps about the problems black men are facing i mean the united states has the largest incarceration rate in the world african-american incarceration i think i just read that professor said that the number of black men that are either in jail prison on parole or probation is more than were in slave before the civil war so if he's bringing these to the forefront in the white house by getting from face time with president obama's wife michelle obama i think that's you know far outweighs any off color lyrics that are rapper it's pretty much expected to have absolutely and fox news even which is one of the many conservative groups outraged of course this coming year and a half ago they did a report on common they interviewed and they called him a conscious rapper and they praised him for bringing up exactly these kinds of issues. really they all forget there is getting better at the elections he's been
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tramping back and you know obama's getting some more celebrities back on the side again and as we all know from the labs love obama i think it's jealousy you're right big news today i guess microsoft is buying skype for something like eight point five or eight point eight billion dollars and i know i'm just a curious about that i use skype i've used it for years you know i skype with my grandmother is. in russia and i'm just wondering if that means that it's going to change and it is microsoft going to take something that isn't broken and then try to fix it in whatever their we know. technology and then just undoubtedly ruin it i hope not because i can i still can navigate windows i'm a macro and i have a hard time figuring out how to do much on windows like open microsoft word so i hope i don't match up with yeah i can see one change that my potential were there which will bring back clippy the paperclip never have been in microsoft word i love it when you start you know like oh i see you're calling your mom on mother's day
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can i also send an e-card for you would be great if you want to be assisted. by let me see let me do you there's no battle that's the whole contention about it is why is this valuation eight point five billion dollars is this kid much because they haven't really figured out a way to monetize user base which is the question we have with all these tech companies i mean facebook is i think it one hundred fifty every face what. they have they have those games that rake in money yeah it's on a tiny bit that much i don't know but yeah i know it's a valid point i think you know they're going to break into your calls and you know hockey you so procter and gamble products i don't know how whatever i do i do agree that it might get my life might get more awesome for x.-box users gamers might be able to have a time with each other when they're when they're playing they can. hear you like you know you can then like ok lastly i just love people that make stupid nine one one calls like that called after confiscating we needing to pop brownies here's a guy that actually called nine one one and asked them to going to run for him i
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mean charging this guy for five hundred dollars because he had called them and won something like seventy nine times in the past year and i think you're going to hire should be higher but you know i'm thinking like all these municipalities are having you know real fiscal issues heres a way to raise money you know start doing your runs for people if you're going to go out to their houses on no also. that i was thinking how insulting that this guy is wasting your time with this. only in cities you know bore you have the disease may get to you can't anyone have an ambulance i was the mayor in a flash let me just put the light on and all speed through all the red light would have to go there anyway so you might as well charge like two grand for a six pack you know probably sold i got to wrap it up but thank you for joining me tonight that's a great night for tuning in i'm a three and back tomorrow and it was very annoying back on the show so i forgot how the koch brothers are trying to influence america's youth in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of be alone or show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of the night's show or any other night you know it's catch all the you tube dot com slash deal on the show where we post the interviews as well as the show in its
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entirety coming up next is out of versus the man. for some this is just a parliament building in burning. books sixty six years ago it was the final target. and the last major offensive for the red army. its capture became the symbol of the fall of the fascists into. the victory over nazi germany. the fall of burley in archie. h.l. marvin here broadcasting live from washington d.c.
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