now on tom hartman here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture. president obama expressed his support for immigration reform in the star state reform as an economic imperative so the money hungry g.o.p. controlled house take. from the problems at our borders to our classrooms teachers on both coasts are staging sit ins to protest education cuts to peaceful demonstrations prevent their salaries mean for this life. and the days of spending

an idle time on the net downloading music and video may be coming to an end how companies are cashing in by expanding band with at the expense of your bill. you need to know this what's been on president obama's to do list recently by the osama bin laden check creating nearly a quarter million jobs last month check so what's next on president obama's agenda . immigration reform today the president was in el paso texas to look for a major policy speech on immigration and to encourage congress to get to work drafting immigration reform legislation here's what he had to say. first we know the government has a threshold responsibility is secure our borders enforce the law and that's what

janet and all her folks are doing that's what they're doing. second business is that to be held accountable if they exploit undocumented workers . either. those who are here illegally. they have a responsibility as well so they broke the law and that means they've got to pay their taxes it got to pay a fine they got to learn english and they got under the rubric background checks and unlink the process before they get in line for legalization that's not too much to ask so far this president president obama has done more than any other president in recent memory to secure the southern border back perhaps more than any history yet he has received the harshest criticism for bright waivers like arizona governor jan brewer was only ideas with regard to immigration reform or to poor anyone whose skin is browner than hers so what does the president need to do to swash radical

immigration reform ideas and advance common sense ones and what exactly is the best way to address this problem in the united states. there are real really two dueling philosophies is almost too strong a word to do in groups in the republican or conservative camp there are the corporatists those who love the fact that they can make money in a field legal immigration and there are the racists those who are scared to death of people whose color skin color is different from them who speak a different language and come from a different country who have any kind of difference with regard to ethnicity these two dueling groups the corporate is versus the racists the corporatists they were other like the current system they got cheap exploitable labor the they've in fact they very much like the status quo here's for example what the president had to say the day about the corporatists. because undocumented immigrants live in the shadows

where they're vulnerable to unscrupulous businesses that skirt taxes and pay workers less than the minimum wage or cut corners with health and safety laws this puts companies who follow the rules and americans who rightly demand the minimum wage or overtime or just a safe place to work it puts those businesses edit this advantage ok and end the racists are freaked out i mean fences and moats here's what the president had to say about this now they said we needed to triple the border patrol or now they're going to say we need to quadruple the border patrol or the law to hire fence they do they'll need a moat. they don't want to alligators in the my. bill never be satisfied and i understand that that's politics and bill never be

satisfied it's not just politics it's races but you know the it let's just review some of the realities here just basic econ want to learn first of all you have more workers it depresses wages so this is one of the legitimate. hits on illegal immigration before reagan but we saw in historically in the united states in fact before the reagan presidency about a half a million people would come north from mexico during the picking season and about a half a million people would go south every year there had been a verity of programs to try to accommodate them or legalize them the berserker program for example back in the sixty's was essentially exploitative but it was an attempt but that's how it was then reagan did two things number one he granted this amnesty the brought you know millions of people three million four million depends on whose number you're looking at in the workforce but in addition of that he basically stopped enforcing the law against employers who were hiring illegal immigrants the consequence of this and no president since then has started

enforcing those laws actually throwing employers in jail and i say this is somebody who was an employer before during and after reagan and i can tell you and and i've had immigrants working for me and i've had to go to what used to be called the ins and convince them that i wasn't exploiting this worker that i couldn't find somebody else and things have really really changed so anyhow after after the amnesty more people stayed. basically we don't have an illegal immigration problem in the united states we don't employ illegal employer problem it's like we've got this giant magnet illegal employers are using people who aren't licensed or bonded it makes union busting super easy food processing construction industries if you look at these industries for example they used to be places where you get a good union job and you could you know get a pension work for thirty years now they're not because these employers are exploiting illegal employees behind oil the largest mexican industry behind the

export of oil is money being repatriated back to mexico for people in the united states working illegally this is by the way propping up both the corrupt employers in the united states and corrupt governments in mexico frankly we need these best and brightest who have come to the united states you know either aid to become u.s. citizens or be to go back to mexico and become mexican citizens and participate in our political process now certainly there are some compassion incidence of somebody sick we should we should care for them we should provide schools for their kids and we should help them with the immigration process but on the other hand there are some concerns are about labor we need to reduce you know the what we have already has happened is if but actually what need what will happen if we have conference of immigration reforms that will reduce the number of people in the workforce which will raise wages and that and then slowly will reintegrate these people back in via immigration bottom line we need a good comprehensive immigration policy states. the

days of unlimited internet access are over fifty six percent of internet plans in america now cap just how much information can be accessed on the web telecom giant a.t.m. t. recently introduced caps on their d.s.l. customers charging them fees for any data received over one hundred fifty gigs and advocacy groups have now written a letter to the f.c.c. in response to this new policy of capping it was the f.c.c. by the way that allowed caps in the first place as part of the recently passed net neutrality regulations and the letter reads these caps pertinaciously undermine each of the goals that are by the national commission or the commission of the

national broadband plan stifling the competition in innovation that has established itself in the internet economy so will the f.c.c. do anything to stop mega-corporations from meddling in our internet and screwing us of huge fees here offers take on the issues dan gainor president t. boone pickens free market fellow in the business and media institute it see again dan good to see you need lessons. through the resorts and so i heard there were a lot of good first time i've ever done that on t.v. . what's wrong with the internet as it was for the last decade wide open the wild west so i think you know. if you go back the last decade you actually do find. a graduated policies well and a lot of the other original dial up was based on how much you use i thought it well mostly based on a. lot of the ninety ninety five a month period flow rate or not it was a rural and regional does the work for those people. who serve it was one irate when we get. you know is there some sort of a living for men or

a little group of you know commanders i didn't know about but you know they'll show have flat rate internet because this is this is ridiculous we have this is we handle a lot of things phone you know utilities ok you know gas allowed to use more of it you can eat more food use more you give you pay more food gas all sorts of things in our economy why is this a problem and he would talk about how much people are using i mean this the end the have. your argument is not unreasonable except for the fact that the internet is now part of the information commons a and b. what we've seen in a bunch of other countries and in france is probably the best example is they are forcing competition among companies i mean we've got five companies right now in the in the united states that basically own the internet the local people as you know you know sort of service providers and there are the majority of and and and so what's happening is they're starting to throttle down when they see people downloading video their their their their you know capping for example and other

things like this whether or not there is in france what they say is regardless of who owns the wire that comes into your house any internet service provider can provide over there so there's over one hundred internet service providers in france and the typical internet bill for one hundred megabyte. upload in ten mega ur download and ten meg by upload which is twice what the average american consumer gets or ten times what the average worker gets or gets to people bill of france is over thirty it's about thirty dollars per year it's over one hundred bill limit that you're talking about here pending on where you want you get all of these one hundred fifty gigs or two hundred fifty gigs at the hundred hours of t.v. and thousands of e-mails that's not exactly a limit and old saying is above that you can see it's the principle damn it's what once was a fine print once help me i don't want to take their money they start saying ok you can have this watch the next month they'll say well actually you can have this month with their true nodes are going to is like the first time i signed up for cable t.v. they said. it's only twenty nine ninety five

a month you signed up and how much is it going to be after the end of the three month period well we can't tell you that actually we don't know well turns out it was one hundred thirteen dollars or something like that i mean there are business here trying to keep from having to do massive build outs because of a few users a few power users who have become i says not only as somebody uses the un's of internet time and downloads video and downloads audio who actually gains on the internet but so what if i do that if i end up copping out and it looks like eight hundred some of those are going to be very nice and say ok we're going to get e-mail when you get to have it when you get there when you get a half usage so you imagine they're already throttling d.n.a. i mean you've got ground cast but you know right now saying we'll sell you a five five megs of download but if you try to download a video that you're watching i'm sure if you have cup history in d.c. you can you know you can just watch it on the meter as soon as you pass about four seconds of continuous download of five minutes it drops it down to three or down to two it holds of there one of these as we thought it was generally speaking it's not

your average i think you're consistent in most things i would always agree with your consistent this is one of the times where i'm really just amazed that you're not trying to look behind the curtain this comes out and if they win two groups come out and launch this little command public knowledge the new america foundation and you always look at you know behind the scenes who funds what well let's see who funds new america foundation well let's see microsoft you know bill gates right at the time that microsoft also purchased skype so that other became a campaign about how much of it downloaded it all and they have and people spent a lot of money just up to get microsoft operates and then there's also word sourcing folks who are these organization what i mean what i'm looking at the end is is that in and in the european countries and in south korea in the countries that are just beating our answer in terms of the quality of internet service and general access they the first competition to companies that were were basically setting up monopoly circumstances and the internet is wide. i think that's just

better i got three different companies i can get internet from choose the one that i like and i'd probably have more but of the three that i know i would submit to you that those three are all offered essentially the same thing and therefore it is i i certainly view differently because it was a pretty easy choice what you know why i ended up with horizon and not comcast which i've been with for years so ever why is it when france went to a program where you get unlimited internet access fast you get. over one hundred t.v. channels plus you have phone service over fifty countries and it's all under thirty five dollars a month i mean that was the reason for all of that there was enough additionally he's got a bunch of companies there are a lot of really neat it's also really there's no job and so on with their government controls the regulations it's not government for it what the government is saying is you must compete you know the government saying you must do with the government oh you did it which is not the same thing and i'm going to ultimately tell if people if you were to start a company in this way you would if somebody want to start a company it was offering better service and cheaper they're going to do when you

can't do it because you don't control the pipes into the house and that's where these guys are establishing their monopolies and that's where other countries are saying the pipe into the house is different from the day that we also have a very unique situation that we're heck of a lot bigger than france so the we're actually you know it's you know the companies have to go through building out three of them and then then we need a new art the r.c.a. any advantage we're. agreeing to disagree as a. thank you for dropping by it was only a matter of time before the big transitional corporations turn the people's internet into their own piggy bank i frankly think we need to fight back to make sure that the greatest informational source in the history of mankind isn't taken advantage of by million or c.e.o.'s and their money and it's. coming up more on the teacher budget sit ins live interviews from california and.

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else here sees some other part of it and realized everything you thought you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. education education education this week schools are public issue number one as

teachers students and parents are holding demonstrations in new york california to protest cuts to education budgets and what they're calling a week long state of emergency mcalister new teachers association is holding a sit in at their state capitol in response to governor jerry brown's proposed seven billion dollars cut education in the last three years california has seen its education whittled down by twenty billion dollars and more than thirty thousand teachers laid off now the teachers union is saying enough is enough also inspired by activist teachers in wisconsin new york city teachers are holding a march this week in opposition to mere bloomberg proposed cuts to education that will lay off thousands of educators and that city tens of thousands of people are expected to join in the march from city hall the wall street to demand that the bank stirs not the teachers. pay up for what was done to the economy some of these

genuine grassroots movements across the nation put an end to the teacher eighteen and teacher baiting that's been going on for the last four months since republicans for power and state governments around the nation talk more about this issue from california david a sanchez president of the california teachers association and from new york allison kilkenny independent journalist at the nation and co-host of the progressive political cast citizen radio david allison welcome to each of you thank you thanks for it thanks so much for being with us david first it to california if you can describe this state of emergency movement what are you going to be doing this week and what's the goal but we have over five hundred teachers to parents here to participate and we call on activities passion here at the state capital to draw attention to the state of emergency that we have concluded is happening in or out of schools through higher ed and it was

a mandate from our state council education during body recovery teachers association telling us a directing us to plan a week long event of activities culminating with by state wide rallies to draw attention to the severity of the cuts that are currently being implemented and return shalabi going deeper cuts should the governor not yet he extension taxes the east looking forward asking to continue so we're here to educate the legislature as well as the public about the seriousness of these cuts in our. student sounds like a sounds like a good plan allison in new york what what is being done there and what is the what is the specific goal of. well thousands of people are coming out to oppose the mayor bloomberg recent announcement that he plans to fire six thousand teachers. a massive group that's operating under the banner of on may twelfth their official

website is on may twelfth org it includes a variety of different unions including the united federation of teachers of different grassroots organizations their supporters will be marching on village street and the reason they have selected wall street as a target is because you know the big banks bankrupted america they cost millions of jobs caused millions of foreclosures and now there's a two tier operating system in america where the poor people are expected to sacrifice are already meager means and huge corporations are permitted to run off with you know trillions of dollars in bailout money david in california to what extent i can understand schwartz an egg or you know sort of like we're getting new you know did away with free public education at the college level when he was governor and you know schwarzenegger cutting back on public agenda to republicans do it they don't like the idea of educated people seems but jerry brown i mean

isn't this really a symptom of ballot initiatives that have been passed the reporter supermajorities in the legislature to raise taxes to pay for these kinds of things and if that's the case if my guess on this is right what are the possibilities of jerry brown can actually get education funded in the state is he fighting hard to do. yes you know unfortunately jerry brown in here it is these big huge financial mess that we are in right now and he has done everything he possibly could to not. pursue additional cuts to public education in fact he came into the business traditionally understanding that public schools are already being cut and there are any additional cuts there you know there's no more me on this don't let the cat what's left is accusation so he's been working hard to try and solve the budget up so with half cuts and the other half. having the extension of these taxes that we're

talking about we're currently those taxes ended in june when he tried to opus on initiatives for the ballot in june of this coming year and unfortunately the republicans have their own special interests and chose not to support its proposal to put it before the voters like he wanted to and we're currently trying to do right now also we're trying to collect signatures to pass extensions legislatively in other words as you mentioned we need two thirds vote here and there passed well they need twenty two republicans in both houses in order to get the two thirds to do just that and that's what we're trying to get us part of the week that we're here and that's their superiority problem is that is that require because two thirds of that and that was put there by right wingers getting a ballot initiative driven into the california constitution you have a different situation allison in new york you've got a mayor who is not responding to a constitutional problem in the state not responding to. the constituency of

teachers certainly he's just unilaterally doing this to have this right near where he just decided ok here's my budget these teachers are gone and when i couldn't raise the taxes i was free. well this is sort of a case of passing the park mayor bloomberg points to albania says oh they're cutting the city's funding and then albany points anger at mayor bloomberg and says no this is your decision to make essentially what this comes down to is it's the at the elite politicians and their cronies on wall street versus average americans and on may twelfth is saying the on may twelfth movement is saying that just as doesn't look like closed schools or fire teachers just as looks like businesses corporations the big banks paying their fair share. and not for the billionaire mare's enough with the billionaires on wall street david we just have a few seconds left a minute left. to what extent are the billionaires inserting themselves into

california politics you know trying to trying to advertise against the could be thinks of the jerry brown is trying to actually are trying very hard to influence the direction of the legislature they're trying very hard to see idea that enough is enough with the extension of these taxes that we're asking people to continue doing because we're doing it right now anyway but you know also is absolute correct you know big business should be paying its fair share in taxes and they aren't and so we can we do our tax structure you know when you make it more fair for everybody they should be paying their fair share and they're not the money's not there for education and it's a tragedy all the way around david allison your both doing great work thank you so much for being with us. thank you thank you great to have you both on as our morality decayed in the united states so much that we rejoice banks toure's on wall street making hundreds of millions in bonuses yet yell and scream about teachers earning fifty grand

a year to fight for the teachers who are preparing our kids for the future and the banks toure's who are selling our future off to saudi princes for huge profits. and. it's time for our daily poll your chance to tell us what you think here's today's question has are more reality to cade so much that we rejoice in banks making millions while yelling about teachers or any fifty thousand and choices are yes i support teachers students and parents holding demonstrations from new york to california this week or no twenty billion dollars in cuts in the layoff of over thirty thousand teachers in california that's just the start or several one of the last one of you has so far as voted yes you can logon. to let us know what you think the poll will be open until tomorrow morning.

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