tv [untitled] May 13, 2011 10:00pm-10:30pm EDT
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why you know what's really happening to the global economy with much stronger no holds barred look at the global financial headlines. there's a report. but can they alone a show or look at the real headlines with none of the mercy or can we live out of washington d.c. now tonight our attention goes to libya where many are wondering what will happen once the war there reaches the sixty day mark will nato forces call on the u.s. to continue the war effort there and if so what if the what is the u.s. going to do without congress's blessing then breaking down unemployment figures shed light on a shocking new statistic nearly half of all african-americans are out of work so
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with that in mind is there any way to fix this growing racial divide next we'll take a closer look at one area of surveillance of it's becoming more and more popular schools using federal dollars investing in ways to track your children so is this move just the latest example of a growing security complex fueled by money or are schools really trying to keep your kids say and then ron paul says i'm in once again but although he's running on the republican ticket i think it's fair to say he's definitely not your typical g.o.p. member but with the tumultuous political climate that our country is facing right now is paul going to be america's new hope for change we'll get to the bottom all all that will make a toast in tonight's happy hour segment but first let's move on to our top story. say the secretary general of the military alliance nato met with president obama here in washington to discuss the ever changing mission of this western alliance so as the two leaders talk about nato is agenda and with all eyes still on our fragmented intervention in libya. some are asking what the conflict means for the
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future of the military alliance artes or lester has more. several decades and wars later it's still the question it's top of mind when it comes to the world's largest military alliance any people i think today wonder after the end of the cold war why nato lo and behold they had to use it is busier than ever. set up to counter a perceived threats from the soviet union the north atlantic treaty organization has plowed ahead without an enemy after the end of the cold war. some felt that the alliance lost its reason to exist instead what happened in fact and in violation of even the accords and the agreements at that time was nato aggressively expanded. and a larger alliance that once promised peace is instead pledged bombs in troops to
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afghanistan going on a decade. and in its latest endeavor largest air strikes into libya this fight uniting our new strategic goals back in november libya has launched the allies it discords some countries don't want to actually you know shoot ground targets. air targets which are not. amidst the in-fighting it's unclear what motives are really behind the planes flying in the name of nato over the african country is it a personal aspirations of a leader the friend. is it a friend or you see or or is it a sarkozy see do with try to do to convince the world. to discuss to be the leader of the g. twenty. france was among the first to push for intervention and also get in on what i call the imperial condominiums a recurring question of africa is it the showcase in
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a new arms race military hires love to have weapons are tested in war if your weapon system does very well in the war you can count on sales going up in fact the only two planes now in contention for a ten billion dollar order of one hundred twenty six planes from india are the euro fighter typhoon and the french for fell the very ones french and british allies have been flying over. is it the opportunity to oust the gadhafi regime it is u.s. policy that gadhafi needs to go and prop up one more favorable to us foreign policy . interests to. ensure we wish to. disprove. a so-called humanitarian intervention that critics argue was never weren't to but which now may be causing a humanitarian crisis we didn't start
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a bloodbath but we are prolonging and perpetuating the suffering of civilians in libya suffering that is now washing up on the shores of nato allies by the boatload of refugees as it is leader comes to u.s. shores the nato secretary general needs here with the keeper of the keys in washington president barack obama now though the united states has seemingly stepped back from libya he was the number one contributor to nato and therefore many would see the u.s. really as being nato now this comes at a time when the conflict in libya on the ground more and more people are calling a stalemate and it's the allied end fighting as well as rising costs in every sense that same question people have been asking for decades comes to mind if it is the. yeah nato lauren lyster r.t. washington d.c. . now president obama met with nato general secretary anders fogh rasmussen today a libyan rebel leader was also here in washington. met with u.s. national security advisor tom donilon asking for up to one hundred eighty million
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dollars in caracas frozen assets to fund the rebels campaign as well as lethal weapons and a recognition of the opposition body as the quote sole legitimate interlocutor of the libyan people something france italy gambia and there are have already done pleas to the u.s. once again show this hierarchical structure of nato so if they don't agree what does that mean for the rebel forces and will the other nato countries be willing to foot the bill and discuss this with me is matthew zeller former u.s. army captain matthew thanks so much for joining us tonight my pleasure so. rebel leader apparently today was meeting with tom donilon but what do you think is going to happen first of all if the u.s. decides that he doesn't want to recognize you know the rebel forces there and that they don't want to have over one hundred eighty million dollars that gadhafi is frozen assets is the rest of nato going to say ok that's fine that's your decision wolf foot the bill it depends it is the french maybe i mean france we can tell from
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well as initially reported started bombing without the approval of nato they went ahead and the initial bombs dropped in in libya were actually french warplanes and we really had no idea that they're going to go do it kind of caught everybody by surprise it was the italians and others i think it might make them a little bit more hesitant to you know see us take the leadership role in this me. the nato the libyan conflict really gauge just reported that we spent seven hundred fifty million dollars already on this conflict. you've got to ask what are we doing here i mean he doesn't really seem to be a strategic interest you know the idea is it supposed to be a bloc that is defending us against communism and then it's sort of a security and strategic alliance and don't get me wrong i don't like moammar gadhafi as much as the next guy but is this really a strategic interest and is this something that nato should he. be doing because you know obviously there's a lot of infighting even within nato like you said france wanted to go ahead on its own right there are a lot of nato members there still aren't even on board with this mission who else said surely you heard later you know all right wants nothing to do it i don't think
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they should i really don't think that is this is a new strategic interest of the searching interest the united states i mean the one question nobody wants to ask and i always it's you know just what happens of khadafi survives i don't think he's going to want to let bygones be bygones this is a guy who has shown a willingness to use his state apparatus to sponsor terrorism he just lost a son i mean we we had a guy who wanted to play pro active partner at this point in this region he gave up his chemical weapons he gave up his nuclear weapons program he's not a great guy but he was becoming somewhat of a partner now we're taking a bunch of people we really know nothing about and i think that shows the u.s. is hesitancy to back them even if it's one hundred eighty million dollars of khadafi is money we really don't know who these people are there are reports that al qaeda has infiltrated some of the rebels that we're now you know funding and supporting this could come back to bite us and in a way that we just have yet to project well secretary of defense robert gates reiterated that this week when he was asked a question he said you know aside from the leadership which i find it funny they
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say that they know who the leadership is he says we don't know who they were going to live with do you think they really don't know or do they have an idea and that's something that they don't want to publicize because it's not pretty especially for the american people especially for them to have american troops in iraq and afghanistan they've got a fighting and they got an idea there we know that there are two camps the problem is that the former interior minister of libya defected and has essentially established his own camp there's also a rebel general who defected almost immediately who has been sort of the one taking credit for a lot of the military gains but they seem to be fighting amongst each other and we're kind of figure out who it is that we want to back each of them have an agenda they could end up posing becoming rival forces if they do overthrow gadhafi and so they weren't selling some smart hasn't here by that point we've now been bombing for almost sixty days. this congress has not approved this action the president is not invoke the war powers act to do this he said we just said as commander in chief he has the right to do this as part of a nato operation but this is going to grievous affront to the american constitution
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and the whole purpose of that cause in the constitution which our founding fathers very genially put in there was that the american people should be able to dictate when we do it do not use force it's a tremendous check and balance on presidential power and i think president obama was wrong to do this without the approval of congress and all of us presidential power is the power of the people to actually control the presidential powers are disappearing every day but at same time a twentieth right is when these sixty days are up and nothing's going to happen unless congress decides to actually question the obama administration they at this point haven't shown any sign that they actually want to get out of libya so how's he going to sell this i mean just this time he has to what philosophy is there for why we should still get it that he asked that we really don't think congress is going to go i don't think congress cares i think congress is the problem is that we have a bunch of people in congress who love to rally around the flag when we're bombing people and if we don't have ground troops on the ground it really is not going to hit back their constituents back home what does this have to do with a man the american flag why rally around the american flag when you're bombing
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libya because everybody hates one more gadhafi and it's easy to do this is one thing where everybody can say we're supporting the troops and we're you know we're all behind them one hundred percent but is this the best application and use of our troops and is this actually have a broader strategic ramification of years down the road i think it does i think we're going to end up potentially with a fractured libyan state which could become a black zone that al qaeda could once again find a state that they can watch like afghanistan was in the ninety's where they can sort of foster and grow and have somehow khadafi survives in some way i think you'll see him try to strike back in a revenge attack i mean lockerbie happened because we had you know interactions with libya we in the early eighty's because they blew up a nightclub in germany i mean this is a guy who showed a willingness to use his state apparatus to strike a. but i'm not sure if he's going to go and of course i'm sure that we're looking for the next reliable dictator has no chance he said let me ask you one last question here children already decided that there's nothing in it for america and that people just don't like cut off easy you already said to the embassy because it
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is resident evil is their strategic interest in what is in nato strategic interest these days now that the soviet union doesn't exist anymore it's a great question i really don't think we have an answer for it i think the alliance is still looking for the big thing about this operation is if you've seen how much of it has been predicated on u.s. military support it shows just how far we are in terms of how the technological development of our military is just in the last ten years we've gotten a lot of practice out of iraq and afghanistan that our allies even the brits have not and we're probably well beyond the inherent capabilities of nato this is a good opportunity them for to step up and take leadership and gain some experience but you do have to question what is the purpose of the alliance if mean we're not there to fly globalize we're going to money and lose lives on practice when there is no call not i want to thank you very much my pleasure tonight thanks now still to come tonight race in america a look at how blacks and whites view bias in the last report it just might surprise you then we'll talk about school safety to protect students some schools are
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turning a biometric system in spain the print scans radio frequency identification systems the track students every move but are these new security measures turning our schools into prisons well ask an author who wrote a book on the shingles and. let's not forget that we are in the park right. on the world. we have to go that shows they're going to say get ready because you don't.
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obama show we've heard our just stop to say on the topic now i want to hear. just go on to you tube the video on our twitter first part of the question that we've posted on you tube every monday and on thursday to show your responses we let your voice be heard. here a few figures for you to digest when thinking about race relations in america a new survey asked a random sample of two hundred nine white americans and few hundred eight black americans how much just grim anation each group face based on a scale of one to ten how both groups believe the progress had been made in discrimination towards black americans with that group saying a bias decline for nine point seven in the one nine hundred fifty s. to sit. point one in the two thousand white americans start declining from nine point one to three point six where the big difference came in was how whites viewed anti white according to this survey white americans saw
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a very sharp rise in perceived anti-white bias from the one nine hundred fifty six now shooting up from one point eight to four point seven where black americans only saw that rise slightly to one point four to one point eight so in short that makes white americans believe that anti white bias is a greater societal problem today that anti-black bias and you try telling that to the millions of black americans who are unemployed all the recession is that everyone hard the most shocking numbers by far they came from the labor department's unemployment report were from black african-american from african-americans isn't the percentage of black males over twenty who are employed is only fifty six point nine percent you expand that to all african-americans across the board and the number is only fifty one point five percent so that means that nearly half of black americans are out of work joining me to discuss this is the author of the blog now turner's revenge christopher chambers chris thanks so much for being here tonight i mean these are really some staggering statistics you
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know we really see them come out month after month but specifically the statistics that came out in april are the worst that they've seen since they started measuring this data back in the one nine hundred seventy s. fifty one point five percent of black americans actually have jobs that means almost fifty percent don't have i mean how do we even start explaining that well i mean it's it's it's almost the flip side of you know the white bias perception basically with a lot of the stuff for the fruits of all of the just historical messages from this republic to now a lot of it is the behavior related but even the behavior related stuff is a reaction psychological reaction to this this history the past reality the current reality. of underemployment of a black market economy the people have to be driven into of structural racism of stuff like crime illegitimate births stuff like that but again those are bad
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products not the disease so when you mix all that up into a stew you get this situation and this doesn't even take into account the people who are educated the people who have gone out and gotten the american dream and that was decimated from two thousand and seven to two thousand and nine in the economic downturn we're talking about foreclosures stuff like that across the board family savings and wealth wiped out and even white collar african-americans latinos all minorities getting knocked down and even lower pay and are now almost on parity with some other poor people that ironically they were maybe trying to lift themselves away from so that you know so that doesn't even take into account that problem and the thing is here you can't just say it this is a short time because it asks what happens you know during a recession like this and this happens all the time with young people young generation that get out of college during a recession ends up being a better lot generation because the longer they your unemployed the harder it is for your to find work after as i say everyone recovers in two years around but if
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you did work for the last two years you're going to be the last on the list to get that job is there is there a way to even escape it or is this something that we're going to see continue to grow this i think it might continue to grow i think what we're seeing is almost a now a permanent surf class not just of african-americans but other people as well i mean even in a white collar level too you have people who have been out of work for a long time regardless of their race but are still having problems or trying to insert themselves into an economy that's still trying to remake itself of course at the top you know the people who are always at the top they're still there now what's funny is you talk about the bias whatever that is you have you have the oil execs talking to the senate now saying that we're being big. in my eyes you know that we're having bias against first fund managers or so you were pressed minority and it's everybody's talking i can only look at the figures you know over ninety percent of corporate executives and of politicians are white american rather than
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let's get it to this i mean obviously this is a small sample group here but it's a speak for everybody but there's something to be you know to be stressed out of it the fact that there are white americans perceive the anti white bias is on the rise i mean how do you have a necessarily explain that because now minority populations are growing well yeah i mean it's a variety of things and it's no accident that source material were they were shrinks they were psychologists because this is as there is one reality you know and then reality reality is that black under employment unemployment for whatever reason their own reality is this white bias thing it's about you know it's a psychological term it's not actually that the tricks are studying this it's cognitive dissonance where you don't really you know what you see as reality starts to get twisted in and you react to it either violently or by saying that the world is white bias i mean what's it because there are people who are used to being in
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power used to being at least not the low man on the totem pole so when they see that you know mexicans are going to be a majority people or they see a black president it's cetera et cetera you know trigger something that's not based in reality and you don't have to do it it doesn't have to be a racial thing either when you look at studies in germany in the one nine hundred thirty s. in rwanda in the one nine hundred ninety s. in ireland versus either we're talking about one race of people punching on each other the majority always find their justification for doing things because they were somehow being victimized there was biased against them and it wasn't true at all but it's something that humans do to kind of justify things in their minds well done thank you that's interesting as you know what these researchers them to that conclusion is that. white americans see this as a zero sum game sense that it's not there perhaps you know there could be a less biased my going out towards african-american community and we might be coming closer to equality you know there necessarily has to be a winner and
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a very has to be a loser yeah i mean and women see that minorities see that we're always taught to think will part of the american pie should just get bigger it's not that we got it you're going to get a smaller slice now if you had the bigger slice you know and you lose a little bit i mean you know that's what that's your perception this is something that has been the perception has been in american american perception it's american as apple pie somebody wins somebody loses one it gets bigger for all of us and that's been a means of social control since the beginning of this republic to somebody has got to lose so i got to fight to keep them from getting it because they're going to come and impose on me a lot of the stuff you saw in arizona last year was based on that well these people are going to do to us what we've been doing to them let's not necessarily so that's not necessarily so that's not so that's their flag us when you see you know the power of propaganda and you know how far from reality you.
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can be chris and i thank you very much for joining us tonight. now when it comes to security measures used in schools across the u.s. right all the factors in video surveillance they've become pretty outdated these days you'll find biometric systems like iris recognition in fingerprint scans computer programs that check school visitor identities against sex offender lists and radio frequency identification that tracks students to make sure that they're not just in class it's a growing market for the nation's twenty billion dollars security industry paid for by federal dollars now add to that zero tolerance policies that show suspension rates across the country skyrocket and you have to wonder if any of this is really making your kids and their schools safer or is it just creating a prison time environment with no oversight the lines the pockets of so-called security experts and some of the largest companies here in the u.s. joining me to discuss this is in that point this california based journalist and author of lockdown high when the schoolhouse it becomes
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a jail house and i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight now first of all i think if there's something that really needs to be noted here which is that this isn't something that started this is really something that happened or started in the one nine hundred eighty s. this was you know this was pre columbine and yet it just kept going on but do you think that we're seeing these purchasing technologies and know them out of schools going for them rise every single year since then. well i think it's an important point though i know what you're saying is that there is a history to this that began even before the reagan administration in the eighty's which launched the gun free schools act in the war on drugs that's worked its way into the schools to become the war on drugs in schools and student drug testing we've got. billions of dollars six billion dollars that's been invested by the federal government through the schools programs the department of education and the department of justice that's funded school drug testing the technology that you
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referred to in your introduction so that began really in the eighty's while budget cuts may be slowing things down at the federal level and much of the policy that gets me in local school districts is done by school boards and i think it's important to remember that schools are as in the research that i did which was over two years of working on this book everyone kept telling me time and again all the research shows calls are and remain one of the safest places for children to be much of the violence that takes place and that happens to kids happens in their own homes and happens in their neighborhoods schools are actually a safe haven for kids but there is a hysteria and it did predate columbine there were school shootings in the early ninety's that generated a real fear of kids a real fear of school violence and then when one thousand nine hundred ninety happened april twentieth and the columbine incident occurred it really it was like a powder keg exploded in people's worst fears of kids that school violence came
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became a reality that aid the excuse and sort of the political excuse really to create a security industry response what we've done with kids what we've done in schools is apply your criminal justice model to school safety and discipline instead of alternative models of how to teach kids to behave. how to address bullying how to address the kinds of incidents that can escalate and lead to violence but even given any gun so does occur in schools and my book doesn't say that schools are perfect what it says is a hysteria around school violence is way blown out of proportion also now we have a lot of schools that employ the exact same technologies as prisons like you said even when it comes to disciplinary measures it sounds a lot like our prison system where we've given up on rehabilitation and on teaching people it's easier to just to discipline and punish them just curious kids you know
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in the schools actually go out and they buy these technologies do they have advisers who are these security experts that tell them what it is that their campus needs. right is a great question what i discovered is that there is really this small cotchery of consultants some of them have been school resource officers themselves or their self-styled experts on school violence and they've made a lucrative business and it's licensed school districts on the kinds of technologies to buy or even the kinds of policing techniques to use but there are school district says have their own school police officers i went down to the. beach school district in florida and they have one of the largest school police officer programs in the country in fact their school police department is larger than the police departments of a lot of small towns and cities so it's a huge department with a huge clojure it and they employ incredible biometric technology they have
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surveillance cameras that you know would rival a private corporation it's quite an amazing operation they have but you know is this necessary to keep kids safe i would say no and the research is what i go by the research shows that in schools where these kinds of security and surveillance and heavy policing tactics are used there's actually a higher level of destruction of chaos and a sense of insecurity that the kids have and that's because if you create these conditions it's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy in schools where the principals have high expectations of kids achievement and who treated them in compassion and respect the ways appropriate for their age and we are talking about kids who are supposed to make mistakes those pools where the principals the not use the heavy handed zero
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tolerance and the security mechanisms those were better organized schools where there were fewer disciplinary problems so we're really creating the conditions of our own downfall here in. i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight and of course while that may give some parents i don't know perhaps some peace of mind although you know that they think of her students are being safer at the end of the day we know that there are a lot of big companies out there security firms in particular that are making bank off of this thanks so much for joining us. and still to come tonight paula turning to assuage the tropical resort destination of the u.s. and there they believe that's the case and he's tonight's trial time winner and then he's running for president again ron paul officially jumped into the race today can this republican congressman further transform himself from fringe candidates to a viable republican option we back them up.
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