well. raw milk you can pump it enjoy it and give it away but you can't legally sell it you know just like sex a group of terrorists they gathered at upper senate park by the u.s. capitol this morning to milk a cow now since they weren't taking any money for it it wasn't quite illegal but we've got two of the evil masterminds behind this rebellious act of teeth squeezing right here in studio tonight in israel yesterday rocks were met again with bullets and we'll be joined by an about certain actual organizer with the u.s. campaign to end the israeli occupation and professor marc grossman professor of religion diplomacy and conflict resolution and director of the center on religion before missing and conflict resolution at george mason university also share some

of our exclusive drug war interview with u.s. attorney general eric holder before we get a full reaction from law enforcement against prohibition so if the government treats raw milk like sex how can we can get away with making videos of someone milking a cow so you tune for all the racy footage featuring our op ed for morgan the pennsylvania jersey dairy cow only on out on the versus the man. some things just piss me off whether i have good reason to be pissed off about them or not but the fact that selling raw milk is about as illegal

a selling marijuana treated by our government more like sex than food is just one of those things under current federal law known as the past milk ordinance all milk must meet certain standards of pasteurization to get the f.d.a. . grade a stamp of approval pastor's ation is simply a process of heating something for a period of time before cooling it rapidly for extended storage the point of this with milk allegedly this a kill disease causing microbes this gives milk a longer shelf life the problem with doing this with milk however is that it also kills a lot of the good stuff in naturally occurring milk including the immune boosters that help people fight off disease now over fifteen million americans are regular milk drinkers but they have to constantly we have to constantly work around federal law and sometimes even own up part of a cow through

a cow share to get the milk that we crave almost berryman dan alger of rainbow acres farm in pennsylvania was raided last month by the f.d.a. with two federal marshals and a state trooper f.d.a. philadelphia district director kirk souter sent alger a warning letter stating that the f.d.a. had determined that quote you are causing to be delivered in interstate commerce selling or otherwise distributing raw milk in final package form for human consumption such distribution is a violation of the public health service act title forty two united states code two sixty four am implementing regulation codified in title twenty one part of federal regulation c.f.r. section twelve forty about six one way or another as a result a group of terrorists i mean informed consumers of grass fed raw dairy products grass fed on the hill held a raw milk rally at the capitol today for each featuring a real live cow and inactive the finance if not quite civil disobedience the

consumption of real live raw milk. i was unsure of just how many protesters would turn out for a raw milk rally on a monday morning but this vibrant crowd of at least several hundred from around the country represented a political force in the making representatives from several congressional offices were there including representatives of senator paul and congressman ron paul who just submitted h.r. eight hundred thirty the unpasteurized milk bill to legalize finally moving unpasteurized milk across state lines we caught up with larry although for fisher who rode his bike up all the way from harrisonburg for his raw milk tour to show his enthusiasm for the cars we're now the junk food we're allowed to smoke we're allowed to do all sorts of things that absolutely undeniably kill us early in life but we're not allowed to eat healthy food i was also amazed by how many children

were at this particular protest and why can't we get these kids to a tea party well it seems they've already already committed to their beverage of choice like. flag. down looks like we've got somebody to enter kiss in the crowd even there was a raw milk bar with chilled raw milk too and i got a chance to catch up with the bartender it's an amazing experience when when you tried it for the first time today said quote it tastes like freedom but the high point of course of the rally was when our star made her entrance morgan the pennsylvania jersey dairy cow the crowd went wild and she enjoyed the grass more than any senator ever could using it right there on the spot to supply us with fresh unpasteurized living milk and i was lucky enough to get a sample and compared to what they were serving at the ryman. hi this is adam

focuses a percent of our outside the u.s. capital with my two cents piece of raw milk we've got the fresh fresh wrong bill from the cows we're going behind us and my chilled simple food to the raw milk back there. definitely not chilled body temperature really still delicious still nutritious still very raw. that's where it says the chilled rather fresh milk that's what i'm talking about i guess it's really not that surprising that the government treats this like sex you can give it away but you can't pay for. joining me now are two of the organizers of this event mark mcafee founder and owner of organic pastors very and was organizer grass fed on the hill who was it was actually that you're like a two for one guest tonight. you're here

a very pregnant about to have your fourth child congratulation is i'm sorry phyllis all right well tell us about that i mean there is i was one of the things i was really amazed about the rally this morning if you had so many families so many mothers and so many children out there who obviously care passionately about this cause would be at a rally at ten am at the capitol monday morning yeah absolutely i mean i think that's one of the fundamental things that you know as a mother when when we first start on this journey we look into really what's best for our children and when we when i realized that this was available my two oldest children are very intolerant to pasteurize milk and so we tried other options none of which worked for them and then when we switched to the fresh unprocessed milk they did great and it's been an incredible journey for me as a mother to experience this and see how well my children do want and see how healthy they are and see you know some of their peers. chronic allergies there are

chronic ear infections and that's why so many mothers get into this because we see the huge difference it makes in our children well of not just for children but also for mothers who are pregnant who are concerned about their own health and tell us about that absolutely it's part of the whole process you know i know that drinking fresh on process and help from a farm i know and trust is the best way i can care for my baby before he or she is born and so i've had this now through three full pregnancies and it's it's the only way i would do it now mark you came all the way out from california today where you're based with your organization tell us about organizing this rally today did it meet your expectations well this was the organizer i was just a guest she invited me out last week said you've got to come and help us here in in in washington d.c. but i'm from california where i own a dairy that produces that's distributed to four hundred stores are consumed by fifty thousand people every will hold in california you have a slightly different situation you look out for you along with three other states

has a special relationship with the f.d.a. in the federal government in terms of what you're allowed to get away with actually with there's no relationship with the f.d.a. each state has and that's the point right now the state has their own set of laws which they actually treat robach separately so this fifty different laws for raw milk and united states of america so in california has always been legal for sale but very strict laws so we comply with those laws in california and freely distributed amongst stores and fifty thousand people every week that know that their children can't drink pasteurized milk because it's the most average unit food in america doctors prescribe against drinking pasteurized milk but raw milk is easily digested easily and not probably you know allergies are there's still a race going on even in a state like california when just a few months ago there was there was a dispensary i want to discredit because it's like it's like medical marijuana where in some states you have different legal situations i was going to rossum and it was actually illegal you brought in from ohio so that rahm across state lines we speak southern california and california that. obviously when after

a very aggressively in raw milk if you're doing it legally not a problem so there they're really strict on raw milk across state lines so given the challenges faced by the raw milk movement today i've fifteen million strong and we call it and it's exciting wherever we are have it's a rock spring we're everywhere i mean rowdies. were you able to accomplish what you wanted to with the rose more and less well i hope so i mean it was definitely a huge success we had a huge turnout which is wonderful and what we've really hoped to accomplish with it is an ongoing sort of movement of awareness and support for the legislation that dr paul introduced and then eventually hopefully sooner rather than later kind of a change in policy either at the f.d.a. level or at the legislative level where we can actually engage in getting the food of our choice which is in this case fresh milk without kind of putting our our farmer in danger of these. raids or shut downs or even just the harassment that our

farmers go through because so many farmers who produce rational right now are being harassed in one way or another by our own government ok now i want to take a step back to the bigger picture of how americans get their milk this is the kind of disturbing and one of the flyers i was i was fortunate to pick up at the rally this morning has a little photographic demonstration here we have where most americans get their mail it's at a factory farms right we're pals are literally here i'm an animal feeding operations concentration camps for cows. there really may be. deeper yeah and then here we have a cow in biodiverse green pastures sun drenched organic no antibiotics and that's brought up and not i should point out if you can't see this from the close up on the screen here this cow is not needed and it's own crap and it's a very important difference for a source of food right correct so i'm i'm sold. i mean i've been kind of

a sporadic raw milk drinker it's been i've had friends who were like yeah you got it i was for it but to me i'm one of those guys like i believe in it but you know what at the margins it's just i can't go to the grocery store and get raw milk. and the lizard we're going to get some along with around here. there's. a few i like what my friends in new mexico would like me they have to pick it up like in back alleys and eventually drop. well it definitely takes a lot more effort to get fresh on process now than it does to just go to the grocery store and get a gallon off the shelf but it's totally worth it as you just pointed out and i mean . the nation. and i mean you get it through knowing somebody and having this connections you've got to have connection you thought of connections right and still. it's helium farmers there so the farmers are kind of

afraid to put themselves out there because of the kind of harassment that dan has has just experienced so really sad what about in california you have our farmers actually getting into this kind of situation where they're being raided or harassed by the f.d.a. there is definitely a rasping if you take across state lines within the state though each state treats romack differently and that's kind of a sad because this is massive confusion across the united states you have hit the fifty different laws and the f.d.a. and big industry actually celebrates that confusion because it keeps the raw milk source in disarray because you've got to remember the process industry doesn't get to profit from raw milk the farmers get paid well the consumers are nourished and there's nobody cheating them in the middle and that's the emerging run up renaissance the revival of literally one hundred how did years of oppression is coming back and we understand flushing toilets and clean water and sanitation now where the hundreds of people died from or not but not now we understand that and we know how to marry up with mother nature and make safe from up this delicious and nutritious they can as a great stuff it's really amazing especially as you point out one of my favorite

signs from the rally this morning was the writers of our constitution drink raw milk well no kidding because we've had this situation where we're going in primarily. antibiotic hormone filled crap swimming in some really bill. to look for just one hundred years and now we're coming back to realizing the wonder of real raw milk living milk and thank you both so much for joining us and i really appreciate it thanks for taking the story great stuff that was mark mcafee founder and organ owner of organic pastors area and liz owner an organizer of grass fed on the hill. when we come back we'll sit down with an amazingly qualified panel mark goldman professor of religion diplomacy and conflict resolution at george mason university and a balls or national organizer with the u.s. campaign to end the israeli occupation for an update on what's going on in israel it's not pretty but given how much we the american people are paying for this conflict you might as well know what our politicians are getting for your money but

also give you a sneak peek at our show for tomorrow with eric holder with a giant foot in his mouth state soon you're watching adam vs the man. let me get that we get in a heart break here. i think. we haven't got the says they're going to keep him safe get ready because i'm going to carefully to.

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new website which twenty four seven live streaming news channels what to do about the ongoing financial hardship unlimited free high quality videos for download. stories you may never find. the. need the political. posts in more. much to. welcome back to add on versus the man turbulence has become common in the middle east especially in recent days tensions have escalated dramatically in what could be a rapid transformation of this really palestine priest process for better or for worse two weeks ago egypt brokered a deal between the two major power structures in palestine hamas and fatah and on

friday u.s. special middle east envoy george mitchell resign only two days later sunday on the sixty third anniversary of israel's creation ready demonstrations made their way to israel's borders commemorating with the arab world refers to as the. which translates into catastrophe the founding of the jewish state tens of thousands of protesters clashed with the israeli military and at least fifteen protesters have been killed at the israeli borders of palestine syria and lebanon israel has got a tough response to any more of what they are calling incursions and are blaming syria and iran for the clashes with this talk about these developments and what they mean for the future. of the middle east and u.s. involvement in the region are dr marc open director of the center on religion diplomacy and conflict resolution and. mason university's institute for conflict analysis and resolution and author of healing the heart of conflict also joined us

an adulterer an award winning like for an author of witness in palestine a jewish american woman in the occupied territories thanks so much for joining us tonight so do these well we're seeing what we saw this weekend at the israeli borders the annual commemoration this is nothing that this is nothing new perhaps invigorated by the sentiment of the arab spring does it rise to the level of incursions at this point well i think i think that it's it's unprecedented for very complicated political reasons of what's going on inside of syria and also the new relationship between. between hamas and and the fatah and what happened in egypt so for all of those complicated reasons this particular knock but they had a new feature people on it on all of the borders in an unprecedented way so numbers wise size wise how do you think it compares to previous not by demonstrations. well

i think what's distinctive is actually the focus on the borders and and the the notion of the gathering of the exiles and the actually the success of an incursion in the golan which which is is something that is unprecedented and it suggests that something profound is changing in the region i believe it's a veiled threat syria's experiencing its own disastrous form of the arab spring and they're threatening that the that israel could also experience that if they continue to have trouble in syria so it's complicated in its relationship between states at the same time it is just the new power of people in the region it's intimating that it's following on the on the heels of the do you agree with that also yeah i sure do i think it really illustrates the feeling of power of people coming together and demanding their rights as we've seen all over the arab world

and we're seeing today continuously it's not new in palestine palestinians have been have been speaking out and demanding their rights for a very long time but we see now on the heels of arkansas there are all these other protests it is really. it's a time of great hope. so do you think there's a do we do with the as. a we are frozen feet away we have an a back ok i'm sorry go ahead mary please. i think i think also the fact that it's happening on the borders is significant i think what it really shows is the kind of unity of this house and people oftentimes palestinians have really been. really been categorized simply as the people who are living in the west bank and gaza but in fact that those living under the one nine hundred sixty seven up to a patient are really the minority of palestinians many are in exile for this so it's a kind of unity that the next but is something that is commemorated because the exile

of the majority of the palestinian population is commemorated by palestinians all over the world not simply not only those in the west bank and gaza but that they are one people and they're all demanding their rights whether it's an end the occupation you know refugee rights or or equal rights within israel itself well if this rises to the level of an incursion do you think the israeli response to this weekend was appropriate. as far as i know i wasn't there these were these were attacks on civilian protesters and it's nothing new you have places like bin laden you have the ridges in the west bank where palestinians are marching week after week a nonviolent demonstrations and they're met and i've been there with gas and bombs and even my then you know we've seen the escalation really have attacks on violent protesters so it doesn't surprise me that there would be attacks on civilians and unfortunately now i think you said more than fifteen carol and i don't think it's in any there's any excuse for it ok and although let me let me open this up for

a second because the reason protests are put down is because they lead to real change and in this case you know we're comparing what happened around israel this past week and so what we saw in tunisia what we saw in egypt what we're seeing in syria if the protests around israel were not put down violently if the peaceful masses were able to assemble where they would and demand that the change that they would what would it look like. well i mean i think i think that in that sense the idea of calling it an incursion when people come to our border without arms and they say we want to cross because our homeland is on the other side is something actually taking us back all the way to nine hundred forty eight in the sense that there were incursions from forty eight to fifty of people trying to walk back to their homes and they were shot on a fairly regular basis the heyday of what's comfortable for israel and the west is

when palestinians did this as terrorist acts real real as who came with serious intentions for terrible violence that was committed in the in the sixty's and seventy's this is a return to nonviolent resistance and massive forms it's very similar to what's going on in the other countries of the middle east and it's an unprecedented wellspring of arab and palestinian and moves at this point almost sure this is this the big hope that all of these sentiments that are so deeply ingrained in the arab community in the middle east are now being manifest by nonviolent means because they've been shown how nonviolence can work well i personally think that it's a step in there in that direction and we'll see how long that lasts depending on israelis or as israel's reaction and i'm sorry i say i certainly agree that that we see the growth of revenue for me but it's certainly not anything new right now it's been all kinds of nonviolent popular movements throughout palestinian history but absolutely it is that it is the time that i think great potential so what makes

this case different than and what makes is there for it from tunisia and egypt and syria obviously the israeli state but what about that prevents this from being manifested as immediately as we saw in those other cases well the palestinian people are are are not in and similarly if you lation to what we saw for example in egypt the palestinians in the let's thank god as an example i living under an early terry occupation and the idea that every. the attempt at organizing it building up civil society in civilian infrastructure is systematically undermined by the occupation forces those living in the diaspora the exile population not even have the luxury of protesting within their own homeland so it is a fundamentally different you know context but that doesn't mean that the same spirit that demanding of equal rights of a demanding of a chance to a good life ignaty humanity is is is not. consistent thread.

so this is what's happening if we're really seeing a turn to nonviolence and and a new hope for arab activism that this is a distinct especially in palestine israel is getting away from the history of violence as you pointed out what's the next what's going to come of this next obviously we have that popular sentiment running up against the state of israel dr we've only got just a minute left here well we have some very powerful moves we have a move towards unilateral declaration of statehood that's putting enormous pressure on israel to respond in some new way i i i don't think that the enough pressure has been put yet for the israeli electorate to really rethink their relationship with the palestinian people and i'm hoping that president obama can and can can capitalize on these moves and shift those towards a much more subtle just a second left out of your hope yes i think it's important as we look at the events

unfolding within the middle east that we recognize our role in it not only as as americans paying for what's happening and we need to demand of course that now u.s. support for illegal occupations and discriminatory policies end but also that we play a part and when one because i work with the u.s. campaign to end the israeli occupation you can find out more and the occupation or it is a campaign of divestment and sanctions to say as long as we as as long as our government is paying billions and billions of dollars to succumb. tastings we're going to stop profiting off of it just like gandhi just like martin luther king just like the n.t. apartheid five africans were absolutely right absolutely that we're going to we're going to try pressure not only by asking and hoping but but i really outlined our own nonviolent means of resistance here at home correct that's right empower their side that's right it's all it's i we have it thank you so much for joining us tonight professor thanks for being with us thank you dr mark open and serve so

friday night just a little sneak preview here co-producer dustin and i went to the national law enforcement officers memorial fund twenty third annual candlelight vigil which is part of national police week we were hoping to catch up with a few members of law enforcement against prohibition interview but we got lost in literally a sea of cops we got some great interviews with law enforcement officers from all over the country but no t.s.a. agents despite department of homeland security secretary janet napolitano being there it was like they've been left out of the law enforcement community like a fat kid playing god. anyway you may have seen this all along on line already but the best we had was an interview with attorney general eric holder. would you have so you know law enforcement against prohibition would say that ending the war on drugs would lower the rate of dozens of law enforcement officers unnecessarily in the line of duty but i don't think that's right. i don't think the less officers would die in the line of duty of local drug use and it's

a no. so are attorney generals in such denial about the war on drugs that he doesn't think it is even responsible for the deaths of any of the officers whose names they had just finished reading to be dedicated to the memorial we have some of us of law enforcement against prohibition join us tomorrow executive director neil franklin's colleague was killed in an undercover drug buy and former d.a. analyst shawn dunnigan who might take issue with the attorney general's statements will get their reaction to the entire encounter with eric holder as well of some of the other encounters we had with police officers at the memorial events and some of the mentality that was we were able to capture in terms of the current law enforcement's attitude towards just following orders but that's our show tonight of our for the rest of our exclusive with eric holder and lead and special guests the fallen opponent adam versus the man up pompadour on to some topics and on the the on.