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again you're welcome to stop like the answer michel on our take i'm albert name my guest in the studio is alex sound that come up all. the international just as far as kicking off in st petersburg it's held for the first time but it's managed to sign big names through its list of purchase of the forum is blessed by the russian president a lawyer himself and is managed by the justice minister the conference comes just in time which in the dead of press is far modernization of the country's judicial system so what ideas is the gathering going to generate here's the russian justice minister alexander come along that. doesn't think that it has set a goal to reform a largely outdated russian justice system the young and energetic alexander kind of all it was sent to spearhead the justice ministry and has already introduced

a range of softer penalties and a contemporary approach to crimes that some experts say further liberalizations of the justice system could cause an undesirable kid back and make the legal process more lenient the criminals will reform is badly needed polls show powerful russians simply won't seek justice in the courts. in a sort of welcome to the show thank you very much thank you very much for being with was well as. the st petersburg economic forum which is well known around the world and its annual than it already for its national reputation you're holding yours for the first time at an economic forum is usually you are judged by the number of contracts signed during the storm so what will be the criteria of judging your for and the judicial for. it will be the cause of the discussion of the law or legal forum because of course we are not expecting sign agreements and contracts we are

not economists but. did usury and war in general is a thing that should resign and in the life of a robot it constantly and that effect could become obvious years later so the cause of the discussion of the quality of the of the discussion and what's the the source of that quality the names here surely we tried to attract to this event top notch specials and different directions of practice and law. you need four months of his form be in health for the very first time and put his book is that we're trying to get together to go to the same place in the same time people of different legal professions not area advocacy investigators prosecutors judges scientists. all the good byes as state employers it's very important opportunity to discuss practicing law and different aspects of the kind

of since since they form the sold for the first time can we say that its final goal the purpose for launching this international events is the harmonization of different legal system that dream that a lawyer is have been having for for centuries i think whether we like it or not the lord as everything important in this world is becoming more and more global. and that's why is good to try to do it earlier than later and that's why the lawyers of all the world should have an opportunity to discuss their present their threats present the dangers for the security of the countries for practice in law and for rule or a lot of the world and we have to find the proper answer and that's why we have to talk to each other but the harmonization of legal system different countries is it

possible is it a dream or is it a possibility i think it's burke's already in some aspects for a bra for a poor example the british commercial or it's been practiced in most of the countries of the europe nowadays and big business of russia well it's a reality but we also see some problems nowadays when some judiciaries some legal systems for example the u.k. system particularly the united states system by trying to solve very difficult very serious problems with their own institutions and opportunities at the same time sometimes they need some global talk and global instruments like conventional instruments that do exist now but they have to be modernized we speak of harmonization delusional system of different countries you mentioned the example of great britain that as we discussed earlier even england and scotland have different

judicial system england has its own unique system scotland is based on. the law so. well it's a nice in some respects is a tradition you know but when. the real is serious things being global are about that means the lore also becoming more and more global and that's not a chance to try to struggle what is fact let's talk about russia in order to facilitate economic planting in order to better defend their protects its citizens should russia for example try to achieve certain uniformity of war with state the european union. well actually a russian law is becoming more and more common eyes to have european law and the decisions of your real human rights courts is also very important stand in for us and we are doing quite a lot to try to put the level i would usually reduce transfer of european

international traditionary votes also reality. different media in this country for example very misty daily claims that this forum is supposed to become a quote a place for dialogue between government and business over modernization of law and quell this it means that the existing means of getting the communication between the society and the government in russia are inefficient of course of those and both were talking about different forms of the discussion when opponents are different people going together and arguing and discussing the laws every day worth such a quanto lawyers of proper local lawyers of different specialisations gather together is a unique opportunity as well. russian president dmitry medvedev has called commission

our legal experts to look into high profile court cases such as the case of. the death in custody of sergei magnitsky a lawyer so does that mean this this address by the present mean that the judicial system itself is unable to deal with allegedly wrong decisions of investigators are of the judges their answer is no again but why then why did the president doesn't have the same time records of the courts is also an institution it's also part of so all society and the civil society of course should have a right to discuss this court's practice because this court reckless i can can recall. well you as been published in internet from the first of july previous year and everybody can discuss it we're together with you can discuss it we can discuss the ice hockey championship results and we can discuss the future as a result as well as our right as i was all right but i should say i should stress i

would like to stress that it should not be by all means and definitely not be the. opportunity to pressure the courts so all of the decisions of the courts been put in the power when all executing should be discussed but at the same time if they could be discussed that's quite an. and obvious about india of say minister the public opinion poll conducted by famously that it's and here in russia indicates that only eight percent of russians trust our judicial system completely while forty three percent have no trust they're all in the russian system is it a matter of considering the years as a minister for the ministry of justice of course as a matter of affirmative justice he believe this is. hearsay i should say that but i think i'm sure it's

a matter of concern of you as well as some out of business owner you know our listeners everybody because when such a quantity of people do not believe the judiciary in their own country it's a great threat to the country's security top and of course we have to do all possible to improve this level of the trust to the to our court system to our political system taus state authorities. i should say some kind of street. traffic when both directions because. the state should make everything it's can do to improve the trust of the society but the society also. has some part of this way as well. according to the same public opinion poll eighty percent of russians have no knowledge that the courts are the friendship how the word and about the procedures and so on and so forth so how air is the government

going to act what's the government what can the government do to to to similar change the situation well the first chances for example are. concern in their very important document been adopted by present just recently i mean the basic policy in the sphere of informing and promoting knowledge of lore and following the lore in russia it's very important going into the thing that later on it could be a valid in the proper way but three a question i should say and. probably some provocation thing me as a lawyer is i'm also not. i also do not know in all the details all the codes exists and is in this country and as well of course but i have a respect to the lord and i have some knowledge of my basic principles of law so

all the policy of the state all the policy of the side should not be aimed in turn in every person in the country into a lawyer but at the same time every human being should know his basic rights is basic duties and. this person as to how an opportunity to address to a qualified lawyer to get the efficient legal advice and legal aid in a necessary moment and it should be a culture of the society to use their help of the lawyers and the proper moment not to. late just like we do normally and i would contradict now for was always is also tonight the lawyer is available or maybe that's right that's right from stuff just a reminder that alexander is kind of violent because russian justice ministry is our guest on spotlight today will be back shortly after the drinks so stay with us we'll continue this interview in less than

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and welcome back to spotlight i'm not been just a reminder that my guest in the studio today is alexander kind of all of the russian justice ministry. this is kind of this year there was several allegations about the judges they are they are influenced and they are not always. be taking decisions according to their own knowledge and their own will but there are there are influence both by the states then just by ordinary people

gripes with often a corruption and state influence will these facts be investigated on these facts investigated and is it hard to fight corruption in course. i think of. it's rather hard to find this corruption because first of all because the people who are. participating in this corruption schemes are being greater in sort of in preserving the situation because they are satisfied with it and because the. get in and punished not in a proper way when the case is generally so that it's certainly hard to find these people and to. enforce them to cooperate with the state with the police with special services but by the way this problem was discussed just recently justice a day in a special or four months headed by a president of state and i should say that. in some respects this problem

is to my mind is them a nice because nowadays the courts are becoming more and more independent actions speak but i think the problem is still preserved and of course one of this. one one of the dempster to choose to change the station is to make the system of a record of the judges different from the nowadays how differently for example attract and recreation some people from the advocacy from the north already from science from some other private practices not only from the prosecutor's board is right just to convey to the coming judges. ok now through another question and it's about it's about. the process not not far away but two thousand and ten in two thousand and ten russia was the second country after turkey by the number of appeals to the european court of human rights what should be done and should

something be done. to change the the three great thinkers to make war appeals possible and to be to be satisfied within the country not giving you know in the end. first of all i should say that. those figures this is just who did not correct it was. corresponding to the quantity of population in the country we are only probably in the eighteenth or nineteenth place and your council of your own because of italy is a great is a leader then what about turkey's not relation with mold it. is also it is legal you know whether that's right but. on the other hand i should say that approximately nineteen ninety percent of all the appeals are. finally become in miscible in the courts so there then lots becoming a process of all this appeals but at the same time that doesn't mean that we do not

see the problem and i would try to answer your question to begin our conversation today that the moving of the standards all of your place and close look closer to the standards of the european human rights court is so important that one of the ideas that is becoming true and reality already is an opportunity of the russian people to get the compensation for non efficient jittery in this country right now . the reform of our penitentiary system which you are pushing forward there is being criticized by some experts by many journalists they say that the liberalization of the panel per would would create favorable conditions for further rise in the number of crimes so what do you personally expect from this reform of the pension system a first of all would like to say that the liberalizations know the system is not the proper word because the strict turns of wire punishments are still exist in the

criminal code your reform is not about liberalization no it is i would like to call it pregnant is ation of their system because during the recent than a few thousand years the courts had very few less opportunities how to practice the lore in the criminal case then normally used to have only two or three opportune just to punish the people and of course all the line is not enough now these because. we have to investigate the cases more. and more seriously more correctly and punish the people according to their dangerous danger to society and to the sera sera how serious crime of. the community is nowadays but i should say that the critics is quite not the real thing for all democracies people are afraid of the criminals are aware people are

suggesting they go on a punishment to punish them as the wiser spottable but we kind of understand a very simple thing when a human being being punished really seriously girls jail and when he comes back after eight or ten twelve years of staying in jail especially in such a jail it exists in russia are still exists in russia nowadays is becoming more much more dangerous to the society. iran. is right now a policeman friend of mine commenting on your reform said that day one of the outcomes of this reform is that today if a person is stealing money especially if he's not stealing from the state but from each other from companies all he's risking is money. and that's it is it isn't true and do you think this is this is the right way you're stealing money and you're only risking to give give back the going to you still nothing else no of course not that there's not

a case of i don't think it's really true sometimes canonical punishments are real actual and sometimes shoot one ish. criminals the community economical so-called economic crimes with the money but it's should be very serious fees great very big fees enormous fees. that could be rather serious punishment but at the same time when they're. one of been committed crime is really serious not only money should be talking about ok i'm not quoting my policeman friend anymore i'll be quoting my president mr made a veggie proposed that i quote the banks must give all the information about those who seek civil service post and many would have also said now i quote again it is not their fee it's their free will as to whether or not they provide such information it's now their responsibility for people to to disclose their. income

from which state will this law become effective when do you think it will become a lot more pig probably will occur it will be be a law but so i should say it is draft law is being prepared by our ministry probably by the presidential administration. i think it's proper measure because the state also can establish some limits for the states surveillance for the souls so this is quite normal a much. more criticism a doubt about your ministry the justice ministry is often criticized for being repressive for example and they took the eleventh you refused to register a party. called iraq front it's over the fifth time and you said that that the reason is that the parties emblem and clenched fists it symbolizes extremism that sounds like

a pretext for not letting them take profits in the in the election these think that your ministry may may become a liberal in such cases this this plan should it become more of the world i should say that of course i can and come on in the details of all the cases because thousands of them have been in every week and sometimes probably my colleagues that are in charge of this work are rather strict or probably most rigorous necessary but generally speaking i should say that although our policy years been held according to the lore and to all were courteous as i would like to suggest just an ordinary and civilized way of going to the courts and trying to. argue with us in the courts that the war doesn't also a day the laws that he said that need more strict than that's three do you think that the current law on political parties should be changed should be liberalized your very strong probably my personal opinion is that. corporations and their non

commercial organizations are going to zation should exist probably more freeway should be registered and more freeway but there should be much more serious responsibility for the breaking of the laws and the police and the special services should investigate this case why now these cases and go bring them to the courts to the minister of justice of the brave the law is to bring their own documents so this is the point to my mind but frankly speaking to my mind to my mind to my personal opinion i am not a politician just try to understand me bureaucrats and i have to follow the law strictly but sometimes i can see that our opponents are not trying to go to the courts and it seems to me sometimes that approach has as much. more important for them than the results of their sense that yes yes i know what you're a chip cheney that another thing i want to ask you badly used exam is the use of drugs today in russia is not against the law you can't sell drugs you can't produce

drugs but you can use them if you find in the street you can you can use them smoke eat or whatever do you think that your ministry suggesting to make the use illegal would also appeal to two to like drugs like graz like my one and so this may become repressive so i would like to come and. this fact because it was just my own opinion being. pointed out during the discussion that happened. a couple of weeks ago. and it was only bottled discussion the most important idea being discussed was opportunities to treat their drug users who are really sick or really ill already and one of the opportunity has been discussed was criminalizing the using of the drugs but only with only one one and one goal to reinforce the realistic person to follow the treatment because nowadays

a simile hard to make them for this way thank you very much for being with us and just a reminder that my guest today was alexander cannot call the russian justice next and that's it for now from paula if you don't tell yourself spotlight his job we will be back with more comments on the road to get in and outside russia until then stay on party and take a. listen. mission is. free. free. free. free free. free

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