tv [untitled] May 19, 2011 6:30pm-7:00pm EDT
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hey guys welcome to shelly's tell me alone a show we've heard our guests have to say on the topic now i want to hear our audience just go on to you tube this video response or to twitter for part of the question that we've posted on you tube every monday and on thursday the show is going to sponsor only global jihad. for. fear. it also gives you a story of the siege so poorly sleep you think you understand it and then he lives
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something else here's you some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry is a big issue. all right it's time for tonight's tool time award and it goes to fox news host bill o'reilly see below that part is show last night discussing former california governor arnold schwarzenegger's sex scandal and here's how bill began the segment about arnold's affair. the net and the media are going wild over the fact the former california governor fathered a child with a former member of his household staff that apparently happened more than ten years ago so. he gives you
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a few details but then kind of present the way and the media and the internet are the ones going crazy over the story as if there's nothing actually wrong with the story bill o'reilly usually the first one to call out a politician moral enough to do it now it's just everyone else that's doing it but wait there's even more here bill o'reilly then went on to basically blame the media for arnold's baby mama drama and i want you to feel sorry for arnold take a listen. what about our freedom of speech this is the solution to the net it is a free fire zone on every single human knee cowardly sociopaths hide in the weeds in their basements ready willing and able to say the most vile things even to fund true and there's absolutely nothing nothing a person in the public domain can do about it and something very wrong with that but again there is no solution the social network has changed america forever. so if you buy into bill o'reilly's thinking then the whole arnold story story only blew up because a low lives consumed their day spent
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a right vile things without being held responsible i'm sorry bill but you do understand it was the l.a. times the growth the schwarzenegger sex scandal story not t m z or some liberal blog a quote unquote respected newspaper found out the former governor of california had a secret love child that he hid from his family and from his voters for years but i've betting it bill o'reilly actually has a bit of a bitter relationship with the internet and its coverage of sex scandal stories it was back in two thousand and four when bill was involved in a sex scandal lawsuit of his own with a former producer on his show the media bloggers other sites all had a field day with that story bill sex scandal also involves a phone messages he left on the woman's answering machine that included talk about vibrators threesomes masturbation stewardess trysts and if you are things that i'm just not allowed to say on t.v. obviously the story was discussed all throughout the media and on the internet so i'm guessing that in bill o'reilly's mind the internet really is a vile place because they called him out for preaching family values while leaving
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messages on his producer's answering machine that i really don't think his wife appreciate it so boo yes bill sometimes the policy information does get out on the internet but that happens on your show on your network on a daily basis so stop blaming the internet for you and arnold sleazy pasts and that's why bill o'reilly is tonight's told time later. well it's been three weeks and so some of bin laden was killed in his compound in abbottabad pakistan and although one of the biggest threats to the u.s. has been removed muslims in america continue to carry a stigma are often looked at in a negative light so is there any hope in sight to end this prejudice archies as they see it should you know has the story. which is dead like a spell and cast is still causing chills the fear of islam. muslims and of course just so my era is alive and kicking there is this the stigma there is this guy is
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conscious and unconscious about muslims and you know xenophobia is at its height in the united states and muslims are definitely targeted just because of who they are one of the latest targets of discrimination this sixty one year old a mom i mean up to much t.v. was recently pulled off an airplane together with his son also an imaam despite having passed through all the security checks the pair were yanked from their flight without explanation i've never seen anything like that before that level of . humiliation in this respect. as american citizens or the irony of brooklyn mosque leader was headed to a conference on islamophobia the whole idea of the of freedom of religion you know what we pride ourselves over was american girl doll so now we can take pride no more do you think about a group of people because there are different phrasing and this is just horrible while some see airport authorities can do all it takes in the name of security
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others are done looking for excuses and recognize religious profiling when they see it i mean not too much if it was one of fourteen moms headed to the anti prejudice conference that day ejected from their flights there was no security issue it was no safety issue. case and it was discrimination based on race and in doubts on except. as some american celebrated the death of that large. muslim community leader was hope for an end to the fear and distrust directed at them and the pressure on muslims to prove themselves as loyal and patriotic americans we don't need to prove ourselves there are more than a thousand muslims. and muslims have been concluded a large. and this is my country some say until those in power redefined the war on terror a bias against muslims will remain that's not going to stop until we have i think
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some policy shift so that muslims in fact are not targets of an islam is not their bogeyman of the twenty first century and with the war on terror it has no end in sight others blame the right wing media for fuel in the hostilities not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims. in the forefront of. the bigger islam or for basically with this message reaching the policymakers in war than fifteen states across america where laws banning shari'a the legal code of islam that some observant muslims choose to follow is being pushed through if you're practicing any form of sunni islam and obeying us from we're just was doing it not just the loan but with a partner that means that you are forming a sure reorganization and therefore can be prosecuted and pay a fine and spend fifteen years in jail all of this many say is based on ignorance
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and fear of the are no american this is sort of gradually to muslims they need to have some kind of contact with this culture about seven million muslims live in the united states a significant part for countries. still impacted by the number one terrorist even after his death as the poster boy of evil force nine eleven is gone from a full view of remains and could be one of its way to becoming a permanent stain on the human rights record of the united states is that which are going to parties here. yesterday thirty seven year old afghan detainee at guantanamo bay whom they call and i had tula was found dead at the official airport that's car has been labeled as an apparent suicide and said that the guards found an ayatollah unresponsive and not breathing in his cell or early wednesday the sound makes him the eighth detainee to die at one time of day and once again brings
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up questions on the treatment of prisoners there whether official reports have a really tell us the truth the families of two former guantanamo detainees who had died of the detention center had been fighting a court battle against what they called a pentagon cover up but that was dismissed by a federal judge last year so all this story be any different earlier i caught up with scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harper's magazine he recently won the national magazine award for his piece i want on a most suicides which is an investigation of the suspicious deaths of three inmates at the facility so i first asked him considering the extensive coverage that he's done on suicide the quantum of a in the past well the first starts where that came to mind when he heard this story. well i think you know well when i start. there's a. best occasion of it but i have to say based on good to be able to learn about this case today the suggestion of suicide sounds forcible.
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with. one of those prisoners that were raised by the way his name is. seen as is actually u.s. government documents are constantly referred to him as. his lawyers say though it is very use that name except that there are. no idea where they got it they say it's what i'm ready for statements they made. those letters acknowledging each day to prior suicide attempts one came very close to being a successful both of his lawyers say he was suffering from extremely severe depression i do in fact are right on target with some form of serious mental illness so i'd say suggestion that this is a suicide strikes me as quite worse now wealthy know about his case this is a man that is going to be detained there indefinitely and it was considered one of these on trials or someone actually had
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a chance illegally of being able to get out. he he arrived only in two thousand and seven is one of the last prisoners to come and gone on a model eyes or one of prisoners are out whom we know the least very few statements by the u.s. government one less we will ease the time of his detention in two thousand and seven and the announcement today he was statements were made there was no combat. status review tribunals for him we do not know we were never any charges brought against him so we and we actually do not know if they plan to bring charges against him if he was someone they intended to continue to detain already was not who was seventy released because they don't give you that information until someone has finally separate leads that's when the information is provided and they tell us in fact i'd say everybody agrees that he was a cell phone salesman and
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a tiny town in iran right on the border where. afghanistan and iran meet is an ethnic lodge which is a tribal society but live lives astride the pakistani iranian border and what he's going to actually travel back and forth across the border frequently we discover him and says that he was either for al qaeda in his town his lawyer sharply disputes that says there's no basis for the claim whatsoever so. i don't know it's hard to see and we also wiki leaks really eats a lot of he's president profiles but it here i too late to be included in that review so his case is something of a mystery. and i feel like the reason that all of this of course matter so much is that this is now the eighth death a quantum obey five of those have been apparent suicides are alleged suicides but
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you yourself obviously have reported on the scandal surrounding two of the last suicides where the families allege that the pentagon really created an entire cover up can you give a little bit of backstory for our viewers there so they know what the story was about you know the emotions that it brings out people. yeah i think we should start by knowing that you know in any prison situation suicide is a constant concern so rather the principal responsibility of the guardians of the words and the guards is to prevent suicide and then particularly there's posed to review the cases of the christmas and decide who is a suicide i'd suspect who does or for special scrutiny in this regard on the other hand we also have to consider that when someone dies in prison the easiest way to frighten or off it will call it further investigation into possible wrongdoing by the prison guard to simply say it's suicide so that's used as
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a cover for. and in this case with one try tomorrow we know the conditions there have been severe they've been psychologically toxic so suicide is a serious threat but with in the case of actually three of the prisoners who died in june of two thousand and six there was a detailed investigation done by seton hall university law school and an investigation that i also did that was a subject of a feature article in harper's in which we reviewed the government's official accounts of how they died and concluded that this account simply wasn't possible and then some prison guards who were on duty that night at that camp and came forward and gave their own narrative in which they said that they were absolutely convinced the official statement about how they died could not be crew because one of the absurd of the three prisoners who died being removed from the outer so
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grocott wants to know that eating and eating and taking away into an interrogation chamber but we've never been able to establish exactly what they did back happened to ask i want to cut you off for a minute just because i'm running out of time i think that's one of the largest problems here is that we never fully will know what happened i think i've had. a lot of the uncertainty surrounding these cases always is it's hard to get the true story in so considering all the damage they want time of day has already done on the american record and the day doesn't matter if this if this man's death really was a suicide or not or isn't just another drop in the bucket there but i think you know it's family is what ones are going to think it will the united states even be certain that it was a suicide it is going to crime they're going to believe that he was driven to it by the harshness of the circumstances in which he was held because there are a lot of medical professionals and health care professionals in the united states who agree with that sort of assessment they say the extreme isolation procedure. to
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see severe depression it drives people to suicide and yet of course we have lawmakers here in the us that try to claim that it mo is just like club med and the biggest problem there they have is obesity because they're being bred to well scott i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight. show intelligence ahead on tonight's program and then stick around for happy hour case you haven't heard the rapture is coming this weekend but some people are cashing in on those who believe the world is ending and a thirteen year old was interrogated because he warned of president obama about the attacks after the death of osama bin ladin so we'll cover those stories and more with alex sites offering progress and archie producer lucy kept up so i mean interesting not. let's not forget that we are in the park right now.
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you all of the updates surrounding i.m.f. dominique strauss kahn sex scandal but we also shed light more importantly on how the world's biggest lender is wreaking havoc on troubled countries around the world so keeping that in mind is it time for the u.s. to re-evaluate their relationship with the international monetary fund let's go to producer patrice in a century to find out what you have to say. let's talk about something everyone likes to hear about money lots and lots of it i'm talking about the kind that can make or break whole nations now it's your money well you can't spend it because the government is giving it away the u.s. is the largest shareholder in the eye and that and considering the u.s. these are borrow five billion every day on top of the fourteen trillion dollar debt without a one without anyone's help our elected officials continue to fund the i.m.f. alex thinks we should he told us on facebook if it wasn't for the i.m.f. some countries would have defaulted and u.s. and european banks would have lost a lot of capital pointed out it's the u.s. treasury that's in defaults with unstoppable debt under i want to know what how do
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we get from the i.m.f. just told us perhaps we should keep contributing but not if we have to borrow just unless you can write a big check to the united states there is no other way except to borrow michael said the i.m.f. is in fact a bankrupt organization that. u.s. federal reserve notes that are backed by nothing might take if we continue to borrow to float the international monetary fund it means the us needs to keep spending money on chinese imports rather than create those jobs here at home why so the chinese can loan us our money back with interest and then we take that money and we borrow that we borrow from china and give us the eye and that. is not really a good plan. all right thanks everyone for giving us their input and here's our next question for you at home earlier we spoke about obama's speech today discussing the middle east and although it's a contentious subject that's gained global attention obama's rhetoric seemed pretty
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vague a little broad so without showing any hard stance on those tough issues is there a chance that we'll see any real change so tell us what you think do you think obama's speech signals a change in u.s. policy towards the middle east you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows your response just might make it on air. all right it's time for happy hour this thursday and joining me this evening is alex science all reporter and blogger for think progress dot org and the progress report and aren't you pretty certain lucy cavanagh thanks for joining me to cheers we better start here is a because you know according to a certain group of people the rapture is coming on saturday the end of the world is ending i'm not exactly sure i think there's a couple different narratives we might start seeing a lot of seismic activity and it could like take seven years or it could it's
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a big long story but there are some people that just think saturdays that the could put so people naturally are cashing in on that because what do you couldn't do with your poor beloved little pets your puppies and your kitties in the world and we have a little clip. it was really tearing your heart out doesn't everything that's kind of messed up you know if god is man's best friend here's going to get your best friend a psychic but it's there are sure and you get to go up to heaven i thought all dogs went to heaven or what about that movie that lied to me already what did what do i
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. know maybe make a mess and you know house or your shoes or something i don't know why right on top it's got to go to heaven as well have a lesson and then jesus christ doesn't want anything running around there i mean we have enough christians to feel happy with but no i think the broader point that this whole issue raises is that judgment day on the rapture is profitable it makes lots of money and these people they have like three hundred folks that sign up for the service of one hundred thirty five dollars a pop i mean that's a lot of money that's being made and mind you if i can add family ministries or family radio worldwide the folks that are helpfully buying all these the reporters let us know that there will be no world when they're all over the air and the subways everywhere and see the new you know one hundred million dollars over the past seven years in donations so they're raking in the cash atheists are doing the thing but i wonder if they're maybe in cahoots with the rapture people you know we could just do a rapture every year yeah i think it really was a cupboard but you have it there you're on your own as well as the pet shop give him some business well i mean you know it's it's really just consider shocking to
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me if the rapture really was coming why would you be donating all your money to an organization and tell everybody else the rapture is coming when she want to be the only one that knows who you know everyone had a little like well you know i don't think we really should be talking about is going to happen with the money because there will be no money in the world going to end on saturday and that's how he ended the interview. well you know but you but you're i mean like when i get to heaven i want to choose the best room the best house you know whatever kind of situation that i'm going to i want to compete with all these other people people like you and i do through misery i'm not going there anyways i'm going to blow all my cash and you know get all my things in get on my vices and in the last couple days let's move on to another story a lot. and a little boy decided to go on facebook and tell the president that you know now do you really have to watch out there might be some retaliation and listen to what happened happened to him take a look. he was saying how. and for obama to be careful because there are these suicide bombers a week later well vito was in his fourth period class he got called to the
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principal's office a man walked in. in a suit and glasses. he said that he was part of the. secret service and he told me it was because of a post that i made. because it was thirteen and the secret service had to come to his school to interrogate him but i think we got a little weird why did he go to the school why did they go to his parents' house to interrogate him they then they couldn't really you know how to excuse to break into these people's house you would if they're really suspicious talk to the parents i feel like going to school given to living the way he should look at that he can get robbed by seal team six the first thing they say in the second one is that look i mean in this country i just understand how the intelligence system works because we obviously have dedicated investigators who are trolling through facebook pages for stuff that they can mix misconstrue and exaggerate meanwhile the head of the cia tells congress that he's getting his info about egypt from news media reports i mean where is the balance here i kind of don't really get it you those my first thought like as a male growing up i was so it secret service would be a really cool job but apparently just reading through
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a thirteen year old's facebook feeds. incredibly angry being forced to watch fox news because the other day somebody apathy could serve as decided to tweet about they can't take their blathering anymore and suddenly they realized oh i might get fired for this line and it had to be deleted instantly lets you want to allow. story in this one i just particularly think is absurd if there's a bill in massachusetts that if it goes through it's one of our couple of his idea is if parents are getting divorced then. this bill would bar the parents from having sex inside the house so as not to hurt the children and i guess the idea is then you know you don't just start bringing home one night stand all the time until you are firmly divorced but the language is written so vaguely but it basically means that the mom and dad or the married couple they can't have sex either until their function or their full and if we wait for it i guess me and you've got your own house and maybe that'll put the spice back into the romance it's also you know maybe maybe it will be a little but you know it's a legal you know
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a lot to do it goes for a judge maybe that suddenly makes it more appealing you know and maybe decide hey we're not going to get divorced but if i could make that same legislature to match the issues legislature there's another bill that's going through that would potentially ban the lifetime alimony payments and count alimony payments for certain spouses so if all of these bills go through the kids who are trying to protect here will essentially but the not have enough money to put food on their table and clothes on their backs but they'll at least have very sexually frustrated parents are going to be sneaking out of the house to get their groove on it's just ridiculous you can't ban sex you know even occurred wars even if you are separated . anyway thanks for joining us in the. big sur to get in there for the night's show and come back tomorrow please it's the sixty day mark in libya i mean the time is up for the president to go out on his own but that only is going to happen if congress chooses to hold him accountable and hold a vote to look into what's being said and done in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of a lot of show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of
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