up in the lower show we'll get the real headlines with none of them are sleep or come alive out of washington d.c. now today people from all over the world listened to president obama's speech on middle east but was there anything new in his message and who was he really addressing then hollywood continues its war on piracy but at the cost of the fourth amendment california is working on a bill to allow warrantless searches of companies that produces evey's and d.v.d.'s

and the move makes us wonder are these lawmakers really willing to go against the constitution all for the sake of copyright protection then we have a number of culture wars being waged here in the us you heard war on drugs the war on poverty but is obama waging a war on fun is going to straighten has attacked smoking poker drinking and that's just naming a few that you might not have heard this from the mainstream media but another gizmo detainee has committed suicide or bring you the details on this detainee will shed light on how often this is happening. stay tuned for all of that and for our happy hour segment on tonight's show but first we have our top story. it's been nearly two years since president obama gave his cairo speech and since then we've seen revolutions in tunisia and egypt we've seen protests break out and yemen bahrain syria and jordan all violently suppressed by their governments and we've seen the un and nato a lot of war on libya for the purposes of a human. tarion intervention i think to say that

a lot of changed but the thing is obama's rhetoric and a new speech that he gave today to the muslim world sounded redundant just as vague and broad as ever before the united states opposes the use of violence and repression against the people of the reach of. the united states supports a set of universal rights and these rights include free speech and freedom of peaceful assembly freedom of religion equality for men and women under the rule of law and the right to choose your own leaders. so what was the point of today's speech and will it make a difference will it change any minds in the way that the u.s. the middle east and northern african countries and iraq earlier i caught up with british political rapper locally i first asked him if he thinks that this speech will change anything. you know my and i very much there are

a lot of other people whose there was absolutely no mention of the killing of twenty one on. israel this weekend and you know the fact is if you're talking about the ships when you're talking about tyrannies and you're talking about regimes which are unwanted in the region israel the israel goes back sixty three years which is even further than mr gadhafi goes so i think that's something that obama when talking to the middle east that when talking to people has to be aware of well obama did bring up israel and he did bring up palestine obviously and took that out basically that you have to go back to the borders in the one nine hundred sixty is that the status quo right now is unsustainable that both sides have to change and you know for some people that's not enough for other people i guess you could say the israel lobby or many israeli donors to campaigns here in the u.s.

that was taking it way too far but even that has not been repeated by presidents before obama. what he said take it back to the sixty seven borders something that george bush said as well but we're also obama is that the palestinians have been walking away from the peace process or actually the palestinian people as which were released by al-jazeera show us in fact the opposite that the p.a. negotiators in the words of one of them were offering these road the biggest jerusalem in jewish history you know this is ridiculous this man is meeting with benjamin netanyahu tomorrow he's speaking in front of a pipe on sunday and if people really want to know who owns obama today just ask jeremiah wright just ask ali are we more just ask the chicago activists who are now being harassed by the f.b.i. who are getting subpoenaed who gain their houses raided these are people that knew obama before in his chicago days and they would tell you owns mr obama he is still

a part one hundred percent but how about the fact that mr obama also didn't bring up saudi arabia huge us now live one with which the last recently made a sixty billion dollar arms deal with saudi arabia that also had troops going to bahrain and saudi arabia that supposedly reportedly the u.s. is working on a air and missile defense system how can you give a speech and talk about change in the middle east and north africa talk about women's rights and never even bring up saadi arabia. well like i've said before the region it has regimes within it who have all. the u.s. interests what some more than others you will never hear mr obama come out and condemn the saudi government or the yemen government but you will hear him condemn the syrian government and the libyan government and there are reasons for all of these things he talked about the iranian. interference in bahrain it's not the military

which is in bahrain the american military which is based in bahrain it's also the saudis who are based there as well and he talked about the rights of women while i don't talk about saudi arabia where women are currently mobilizing because they want to drive it's not even legal for them to drive why don't talk about that i'm totally with you there and i think that often sheds light on some of the hypocrisy of these speeches so what exactly is the problem do you think that president obama is trying to please many people also he's trying to tread a very careful line here or is it also just as common mistake where everyone chooses to lump every single muslim or arab country into line. and i think he's the handsome face of an ugly eloquent voice he is somebody who's there for a reason you know to. legitimize. the last

ditch attempt to save the empire to keep us superman. give it some type of. some type of plastic surgery cheer up. i also wonder actually when obama was giving this speech today. he could say right at this is one directed towards the muslim world but do you really think that's who he was talking to or was he talking to americans to pundits to politicians here in this country just so they can gauge and they can dispute where he stands. i think yes it was. an effort to get your record on quote unquote the right side of history most definitely. for the actions speak far louder than words and pretty words are not war really means something in this situation. well let's talk about some of those really were including well it's all good and grow for him to talk

about there should be a contiguous palestinian state he said as well contiguous but how is that even possible the west bank is here. it's not possible for it to be configured as peace of mind for him then to talk about how. it must be hard for the israelis there's no way they can deal with hamas when hamas recognize israel's existence as a jewish state lieberman the deputy prime minister of israel on the foreign minister of israel who lives on an illegal settlement in the west bank how is that for not recognizing palestinian people's right to exist netanyahu has consistently ignored obama and continued to build the settlements and obama has done nothing but fund the settlements he has funded this expansion of israel and people know that they are not stupid and they will not be fooled by nice speeches and nice words and i think you touched upon something important there and we talk about finding a way to talk about money because words obviously are never enough just to say that

we support democracy we support everyone's freedom all over the world now donna today also touched upon the need to tap into resources in the middle east which are the people the need for trade and not just aid but can you add. you know is any of that possible unless the u.s. stops making weapons deals with other countries. oh well you know we've seen us in action in egypt this is the reason why the egyptian military was stopping their people from marching for gaza this weekend this is reason partly why the lebanese military were helping the israelis to stop the lebanese people from entering what is israel is because of u.s. military aid u.s. aid is never on the touch it always has strings attached to it this is what we're seeing i don't think the egyptians need any more u.s. aid they don't need any more trade liberalization as obama said i mean this is ridiculous how liberal how much more liberal can the trade be than it was under

hosni mubarak i look i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight and giving us your take on this speech and it's one it's definitely going to be criticized and analyzed across the board thanks so much. thank you. still to come on tonight shall we say goodbye to the fourth amendment stick around for a special remembrance of what worth our rights was all discuss a case out west where police could soon be allowed to search companies that press copies of c.d.'s and d.v.d.'s without a warrant then has the white house started another war not talking about military action but war on fun here in the u.s. a look at why the obama administration is trying to regulate some of morals here in america i cannot. let you know that we are in a park right. we

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a friend of ours well that's very near and dear to the hearts of all americans and the fourth amendment i'm sorry to say it but we hear all the alone or so we think that it just might be that the there are many instances of popping up all over the country. where courts of all shapes and sizes have stripped away ensure rambled on the fourth amendment as we know it and in the bill of rights the fourth amendment is designed to protect people from under reasonable search and seizures and requires a warrant to be sanction from a judge with probable cause and that's what i meant designed to secure our privacy to protect the people from law enforcement overstepping their bounds and preventing them from carrying out unlawful searches and seizures on you your home your place of business you name it but alas those protections as we know them have come to an end let me just give you a few examples that are out there out of many and our first example of this tragedy is a ruling that we told you about earlier this week was declared the police can now for a century into a home without

a warrant if they smell marijuana and if they hear sounds of destruction of evidence that's right burning plants sounds of a ruffling behind doors all that accompanied these days to a busted and take charge all without a warrant now this case kentucky taking all the money you made it to these u.s. supreme court and an eight to one decision the justices ruled in favor of giving police more off the already and in fact a justice alito defended this ruling claiming whether the person who knocks on the door and request the opportunity opportunity to speak is a police officer or a private citizen the occupant has no obligation to open the door or to speak so the silly guy here if he just properly used his constitutional rights according to alito and there would have been no problem but he made a noise so the caps cops get to bust right in then the great state of indiana decided to take it one step further see a recent state supreme court ruling ok police using force to enter a person's home if the police deem it necessary no real reason needed and you can't

even resist and yes that also means that a car can arrest you without cause on your own property but here's the worst part of the indiana ruling newton county sheriff don hartman says of the decision is going to better allow police to be able to conduct. random house to house searches so frankly if i was a resident of indiana i've been pretty angry right now not to mention scared the cops are going to knock on my door at any second and speaking of the police their methods of keeping tabs on what they deem to be or who they deem to be suspicious persons is also wrote of the fourth amendment as we know it you know those g.p.s. tracking devices that were placed on cars by beds without warrants well the u.s. seventh circuit court of appeals made a ruling in favor of those devices saying that obtaining a vehicle coordinates is just the exact same kind of information made available when you're driving on public roads and only one justice of that court opposed that decision arguing that that ruling leaves open the possibility of mass surveillance of the sole discretion of the police department now this issue is expected to make

it all the way to the supreme court but the obama administration is also expected to ask that court to allow for the warrantless tracking so i think it's become pretty clear the fourth amendment was the victim of unofficial wars being waged here in america the war on drugs the war on privacy the result of our war on terror that's just a few of them and even then it was created by the founding fathers to protect us from all of those fear mongering tactics ok good use is the fourth amendment isn't really going down without a fight average americans journalists out there have come forward declaring the in fantasy around these court decisions and they made comments like supreme court carpet bombs fourth amendment supreme court spits on fourth amendment goodbye fourth amendment and hello search and seizure now sadly the outcry from the general public hasn't been enough to save our privacy thus far and our right to be protected from those unreasonable searches and seizures but here on this show we

would like to dedicate a moment to the founding fathers who has instilled the bill of rights and give one last farewell to the fourth amendment i hope one day we can bring it back from the dead but for now and rest in peace. well as if all of those examples weren't enough bad news for the fourth amendment let me give you one more thing lawmakers in california are moving a bill through their committees to allow warrantless searches of companies the press copies of contact with. and here's the big shocker it's being backed by both the recording industry and the motion picture association and according to them net sales of c.d.'s fell eighty two percent in the last decade sales of rentals of movies or sales and rentals of movies declined by nineteen percent in just the last year but i just have to wonder are there other ways to combat piracy and stripping away your constitutional rights joining me to discuss this is julian sanchez research fellow at the cato institute julian thanks so much for being here tonight

it was a pleasure i mean am i right or am i right i understand there is a need to combat piracy but this feels like a bit of a drastic measure to take you know musically feels like an industry that is not really come to terms with the fact that it enjoyed this incredible boom in the ninety's when lots of people were buying their entire vinyl and the second lections on cd and then once that was done and people could just transfer there he used to form that kind of boom of people rebuying the whole collection again one format string just doesn't happen again so they're sort of failing to come to grips with this you know trying to pretend that somehow if they can you know to clap hard enough and stamp out piracy you know the industry will be saved in this case here it's a really unusual kind of measure they're all kinds of situations in which there are warrantless inspections but it's usually not in the context of just ordinary criminal law enforcement usually it's something like if you need a license to be a doctor if you're licensed to serve food to the public there are inspections associated with that regulatory scheme but this idea of of something is really just

clearly an ordinary look search for criminal evidence under that rubric it's pretty unusual they can point to a case for making eighty seven called the burger that i think incorrectly authorized something similar and you're. for junkyards but that's and this is a really kind of you want to be doing that thing they have a for junkyards they have it for for a massage parlors for you know to back oh and alcohol shots to what i guess that's the argument they're using here is oh come on there are so many other industries that are already regulated why not just throw one more in but you know i think you really hit upon a good point there that i feel like they're kind of living in the past because when they put out these figures and say that cd sales dropped eighty two percent over the last decade i think they're just denying the fact that hey maybe the internet came along and nobody actually goes to the store and buy c.d.'s anymore but how do you know are there actual statistics there don't the law makers get these figures they just listen to anything that you know there are a n.p.a. . two things one thing is just we recognize that we license doctors we license.

to serve food and alcohol in this country we don't license publishers so i think that's an important distinction here this is not you know see where you can be required to have some kind of government license and the regulatory scheme to be allowed to be a publisher but as for statistics yeah i mean a puts out crazy numbers every year about how massively damaging piracy is at this point i think if you claim that works quite a lot and i double check your calendar the numbers they put out range from wildly exaggerated to completely made up i was a journalist in a previous life i reported on some of the acts that circulated for decades about how piracy was costing two hundred fifty billion dollars a year in the u.s. economy and seven hundred thousand jobs and i want to read these down the numbers have been going around for years and years and repeated and repeated and they had really just come out of nowhere they had been had really been made up with no basis and repeated by the f.b.i. and customs and legislators so you know i just don't take any claims they make

about the magnitude of the harm in face value anymore well i think that unfortunately lot of people who really soured on them and their tactics now of course they've stepped back from going after individual is that how to do. i'll load a couple songs and trying to sing them for millions and millions of dollars worth but a lot of other problems here is if cd fails the d.v.d. sales if that's really a dying industry then is that what these companies that actually press those c.d.'s are going through the the back channels they now have to go through if they're not selling it out is to try to create black market stuff ironically there's at least anecdotal evidence it's hard to have statistics on a criminal industry that you know file sharing online downloading has actually had more of an impact. on cd counterfeiters and it has a legitimate history of being you know look people who are willing to buy the cd in the first place are actually the same people who instead of buying the bootleg are going to you know are going to live on bit torrent so they're actually i think probably suffering more than we didn't music industry also you know

a lot of what they're calling counterfeit c.d.'s or pirated c.d.'s or things like mix tapes that are you know often made by you know up and coming d.j.'s or pop artists that involve their remakes is of various songs it's not like a whole album being ripped off it's a bunch of different songs from different people that they've rearranged or done something interesting with you know technically copyright infringement for a long time there was a sort of informal understanding that this was both good for up and coming artist and good for promoting you know the copyrighted works as well again technically not legal but for a long time the district you know turned a blind eye because they recognized but now it does seem like they're being a little desperate so do you think a fourth amendment is that after our entire meal that we have died or is there some filth and. i want to i don't know there are always trends in both directions we're seeing it in terms of some time tracking stuff but legislators and courts starting to push back after a long time we're trying to are seeing courts pushing back on decades when your e-mail and remotely stored files for a long time under many circumstances be obtained without

a full blown probable cause warrant so there's trends in both directions i'd like to say that it isn't that it's merely resting i hope we're going in the direction of arresting resuscitating it whatever it takes doing thanks so much for joining us tonight i was. all right so we've gone into the ways that our civil liberties are being stripped of a war on drugs has been going on for forty years in this country of the war on terror that's been waged in nine eleven but we have to ask if obama has begun his own that metaphorical war since coming into office some out there are claiming that the obama administration has waged a war on fun that was of the things like smoking drinking gambling the usual how it is that habits that are looked down upon in our profession or lift ixion but what has obama specifically done to clamp down on them further and how we can discuss this with me is fred smith president of the competitive enterprise institute fred thanks so much and i'm back on the show. first started to you think that obama is waging a war on fine his administration i mean what is funny way is not subjective fun

subjective but you know i grew up in a very backward sexual louisiana and about as fundamental as this you could be moving mansingh for me because singing and so on you know and those areas actually enjoyed life better than we seem to want to do it and then our. kernel is to look at cyrene izumi you know it sounds like you're both room all idea that essentially they decide what fun is for us they wish to be happy but they want to define what that happiness is but how do you see the obama administration do it specifically is that you know by being down on certain poker sites online gambling is it by going after menthol cigarettes or easy grants call develop every case good move also your words might attract the wrong people maybe our children we were rushing out and leaking cigarettes like that or they're even talking about coloring food you know we want to have all the food look like bland watch oatmeal brawl i mean there's a didn't see do say that if it's not absolutely rather than the nutrition or health

that is wrong well many of the things of life are to make life a more fun and more pleasant. colorful color the decorations are ready the red kidney beans to examples are but again. it comes to keeping kids from smoking or keeping kids from eating foods that are too sugary or too salty we do have an obesity epidemic in the country how bad is that because you still like the way that they're going around it are you hiding behind our children you take away our adult freedoms like it's it's good that we just lost why there are children so there they're not fully able but there's a role that parents when the government gets that role a little sudden what is a child with a child killer eighteen to twenty one of them all restraints off there is could release those things slowly over time and gradually acquainted with how the responsibilities of being an adult growing up requires that you meet responsibilities over time gradually and to ban anything harmful when your child and your hopeless when you become an adult let's talk about this why is it always

the way to this country or the society approaches things is that we have to wage a war on everything right we have a war on poverty a war on terror a war of words why is it always a war is it because we let things go so far they've been suddenly realize oh my god there's an epidemic you know we really have to tackle it maybe we didn't have to allow fast food to feed us you know fake chicken all these years you could have asked them to do it nicely i think it's because americans basically have common sense and the only way you can make them do stupid things is to politico we're going to war we've got of terrorism you know if we actually said you know he would be a little bit people who are eating french fries or you know why do we have to have all this money spent on cosmetics no evidence at all that it makes marriages better no evidence at all that all what i would literally their presence in cosmetics through that's you know i will buy whatever cosmetics i want and i'm i read the label to see if they were tested on animals or what kind of chemicals are going in i mean i don't want to i think really my skin but i do want to know what's in my food and oftentimes nobody tells us what's in our food nobody tells us how much

salt how many genetically modified ingredients there mikee away with and you have been reading the labels the labels and the reading and four point type of briefing in which they're giving us. so much data they're giving us information of course we want to know some things that we care like we're jewish and we want kosher food we look for the kosher label but we don't expect everybody to know where there's kosher not the whole no argument that by trying to put every fat on every label we're giving people more information we're not we're basically trying to scare people out of their food out of their clothes out of their cosmetics you say your word but if it's our data then how does it really scare people right if you have common sense then dad is not going to carry. it in skokie we just said ok we're just warning people well we're now warning people that i say take the cigarette and you die instantly and so on and when it doesn't work we don't stop it several people have made it in from risk decision but we rush in and say well now we have to take the flavoring out they would have to take the paper off and we would have

to make it to make the wrapping look ugly the whole goal is to nudge us into the kernel is and then looking for the bottle but i don't know that paternalism to our government i think that religion has a lot to do with truly you know the credibility and one thing i mean a lot of it is the classic producer liz i'm the father figure could be god of the father for you could be the president but the idea that we're children comes across strong on the secular side and on the religious side it's one of america's problems we're not a passionate country and as a result to all of that our passions lead us into that daddy take care of and let daddy whoever they want for you i want to do so without asking you to feel exactly three dollars going there for i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight be here. now still to come tonight t.v. host thanks to the internet is to blame for the arnold schwarzenegger sex scandal and he's the winner of our schools on a war that another detainee has allegedly committed suicide long time of day but yet again it raises the questions about the treatment of the detainee at the

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