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seem to be concerned about that. and thousands of protesters take to the georgian cities to demand president saakashvili his resignation with reports that police have fired the demonstrators fueling fears a repeat of previous violent confrontations could take place. turmoil in the arab world prompted some european states to impose border restrictions to keep out refugees fleeing the violence nextel going off and spotlight asked the separate general of the council of europe if freedom of travel within europe could become a thing of the past. hello again or welcome to the spotlight. potsie i'm going to have them today my guest is. the. popular uprisings in the arab world led to

bloody conflicts some of which are still. the fourth humanitarian situation in the region forced thousands of people to flee their houses and sail overseas to the safe and happy europe pluck the old world was not perfect the problem has scared the europeans so much that some governments have restricted the border control end up thinking even suspending the get agreement basic for the e.u. are we witnessing the end of the united europe and if not problems the old world is going to respond to the challenge here's the general of the council of europe. two months ago several european countries and the u.s. started bombing the gadhafi loyalists in libya today the old world is feeling the kickback from the operation as thousands of refugees are coming to the continent

every day from libya and other arab countries several states like denmark and belgium have already introduced stricter control measures on the borders others proposed to leave a green mint which allows the free travel inside the united europe and is the cornerstone of the. thank you very much for coming thank you for being here i did not i didn't hear any day with your yes. well first of all speaking about the big problem that we. having your presidential in saddling your day if the unrest on the other side of the mediterranean continues all the european country ready to absorb we were immigrants who are will. be introduced so i can just i would say that for the time being we are not prepared. because there is no real

burden sharing within the sharing in area. also. and the ability to receive people from facilities and people. being trained to read see people in a proper way are not sufficiently in place so there will be a very big challenge and you can see it already when. people are coming on that some countries have started to close their borders yes we are seeing it and we also are getting reports that the delhi government is introducing border controls inside the shell and in france is also considering this possibility is there a serious risk that there may and no war. open borders in europe that we may see yes there is serious risk but we have to. take it to count the fact that there are two different. danger our government is

arguing for closing or making restrictions on the border because of the floor or were criminals. and that is something different than. what we are placing on them the problem of a syrian seekers so we have two problems i think with the open borders one is international crime would have had for a very long time. course the pressure on the borders from. cybil you should the europeans true or i to do something to fight the course try to to convince them of libyans to state to stay in their home as the stay stay in africa rather than seek asylum in europe and is it possible to convince them. i don't think it's possible to convince people but i can do is to help you through the concrete to

overcome all the problems the internal problems have some economic and social development thought that more people want to stay in this caucus but that is much more long term project so you cannot say to people that wants to leave or don't have a job that don't have sufficient food or having opportunity for their own children that they should stay where they are on. the contrary well the recent influx of immigrants into countries like italy and france has prompted calls for the re-instatement of internal border controls within the european union spotlight even they didn't have the right has or that. the tiny talent island of lampedusa has been swept with waves of illegal immigration resembling a human tsunami situated between north africa and southern europe the island is the easiest destination for the spread tunisians and libyans trying to skate unrest in

their homeland to cope with the influx of migrants in italy handed out residents visas allowing them to travel in the european union after france noticed more and more akin g.'s headed in its direction and walked on train services from eton and at the european parliament could not agree on how to control immigration and each member state put in its interests first and blaming each other for the problem and while migrants have been getting passed from one state to one other the whole situation eventually led to the leaders of france and italy i only joined a proposal to the european commission in which they urged him organization of the schengen agreement denmark decided not to wait for the reform and reintroduce border controls for other new members somali european countries have similar sentiments to to this. travel and the question.

well. eventually these restrictions you may you may tighten the the border control but what from the humanitarian point of view and europe is a very humanitarian a reentered place in the world what should we do to people that have crossed the sea on a small that the people who are desperate the people who may die people with children and land that have left behind all their belongings what are we going to do to them turn them back to their. they don't want a lot of i think this is the crucial issue for europe because now we are telling these contras that they should develop democracy and. democratic institutions so what we have to do is to do with these people to handle these people in a human least think way that is a concern for the counter europe that is. that is the guardian of the human rights

convention european human rights commission we have to say to these people that are calming is being treated in accordance with the. principles of the european commission on human rights and therefore we have made no guidelines for the forty seven governments on how should we deal with these people and also be our train training appreciate that take care of these people coming to the borders in compliance of. european convention well as they say a lot depends of the people on the point of view for example. the council of europe has has started a new crime has called for an inquiry into the death of sixty one of those good people and you say it was the fault of the out of the military rescue units that were unable to save them but at. we have and there are reports that this this illegal immigration really good immigration becomes

a business and therefore the so so shouldn't we try to talk all this pressure on those who are organizing this illegal business absolutely absolutely you should do that should have more cooperation between. european states and also. those states that are hosting that kind of people you know neighborhoods of course but having said this we have to take care of and protect people where do they are sold to say recruit recruited by. by people that know how. to make a commercial does or not for whatever whatever people say whatever people feel towards towards the immigrants even if they sympathize then they vote for their governments first of all in order for those governments to protect their

own citizens so do you think that if the governments will continue putting the the rights and the interest of the realm cities and in front of everything else may this continuing unrest and thinning immigration lead to. a worsening of relations in general between the european countries and the arab north african countries are there signs that there may be problems it may be problems of course you can see already that on the european continent immigration is causing a lot of political moral. and that is why we have to handle this in a careful way that is why also we have to have much more emphasis on assisting these contests in order to go forward to. separate opera democratic institutions to have economic double development because that is the root cause and unfortunately

the european countries as well as the united states have not been able to see what was coming we thought that these were stable countries but. at the end of the day all this corruption and mismanagement in this country has created this whole merger of frustration and we got these revolutions you said recently i quote we began working with twenty c. in officials and the venous commission made devices aren't new laws organizing elections and preparing a constitution in tunisia and quote what role can the council of europe play in the reforms in those countries that are not. members first of all if you want to establish a democracy you need laws that can safeguard free and clear elections then you need a call to say that this sets up stakes and balances between different institutions

we have excellent worldwide recognized expert piece that can assist these companies in doing so and that is why we have all deployed events commission in tunisia which is being used all over the world for the kind of nor making and writing or concentrations so this is a starting point for any the democratic development also social and economic development. and then we have a whole lot of conventions that are all and for long and it comes for your members which could be very important for them to do in port au prince the constant fighting corruption which is a huge problem in clichy as well as in egypt but in all these conflicts so we have instruments that can be helpful for these countries in order to get develop the their economy on the social structures so there's

a calm during the admin and the secretary general of the council are you talking like will did actually after the break so stay with us we'll continue this interview in less than. please. explain it ok. if. it was the fourth quarter. of. this street still keeps its secrets

a denounced time some feel that if the soviet files an oxy some length. wealthy british style. that's not on. the. markets why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy in these kinds of reports on our key. welcome back to spotlight ave just a reminder that my guest in the studio today is far beyond the young bland secretary general of the council of europe we talk about the situation in europe in northern africa there will asians between between the two parts of the world can be

endangered if the if the unrest continues and therefore as my ideas just mentioned there there were rumors by the way i said that those countries are not culls love you have members and you're trying to earn for them but there were rumors the countries like to nisha for example least soon become members of your organization are there grounds for such rumors or is just like jack or not i don't think they will become members but they have. become part of to some of the very important interests actually they are already a member of the venice commission which is giving advise not only come for europe member states but. to countries all over the world all the lawmakers writing all constitutions and they are already members there they can draw on some of the very important clue conventions what will happen in the future i cannot say but we haven't discussed to get in. concrete is that our side what we have defined as

europe. still not. oh there's been lots of talk and there are people trying to understand why and whose fault is it in what's to blame that that the muslims experience difficulties in becoming integrated into the european society. why is there more misunderstanding between between europeans and the muslims as with any of their group of people. i think it has to do with the fact that we in europe we are not used to deal with. we diversity. we have always been a complement of a diversity actually but. when the muslims came we are not familiar with these people. there you know i was thinking how does religion it has to be

religious do with the tradition history the way they are living which is quite different from how we are living. i think also that the terrorism by p.m.c. in which is not scares people away as it scares or which is not a limp islam of course but the fact that some of these terrorists claim that they're acting in the name of these clan is scaring people a lot. so live is changing people's minds and. i think it has to do with political leadership and also. we need to change all minds of the how to do with people that are deprived of means to that change you yes you think you think that there should become more integrated yes absolutely more accepted you should more well ok you said mentioned political leadership this is right for example mr sarkozy is pretty radical yes in this in this respect and

this may be the reflection of of the of what the society thinks in france what see your opinion what's your reaction to the complete ban on the veil in france is it. like a restriction on our freedom or is it. a defense of european values and traditions. well this is. something for france with their tradition. but i would like i'm coming from scandinavia we have have a much more pragmatic approach if. because. it could grew cold water a real threat to the society i would say that we should have a law against it but it is not a big problem in society. i'm living in france i never see any woman in brooklyn so why should we have a law against it. but france has

a very different tradition on this song well i can't see the threatening human rights but i would say that the fact that many women are forced to wear a book club is a problem it's very difficult to make laws against inserting while we're talking about a symbol it's a true symbolic thing in the book the gurning of the book like the qur'an the things that these are symbols they don't mean anything for for real life example if an american priest burned a book it is nothing to do with life. on the other side of this isn't the point an important symbol and i think there today this is this competition between between the east and the west and muslims and christians is all about those symbol symbolic acts how important are they the bullock of the qur'an the flag with the the the the moon was shouting in the early in the morning it is

a loud speakers. i would say that would be very important and we see how important a culture you have to pay respect to the crowd that's really he's a very important for many people and we have to respect it. even if it's so loud here even if it's some more words five o'clock in the morning. in your neighborhood years i thought but i don't think i should impose this on us. that's something different and i don't think we should burn books and all that kind of things because it is insulting and we know through course a lot of. time and frustration and anger in the world so why should we do it i mean we should say to people be it yes you have the freedom of expression you can say what you want you can make. a book

you had the right to do it paul why should you do it it's not an obligation but what do you think you try to be tolerant in europe then you think zero tolerance for from from the other side from you draw a cartoon you probably should go to a newspaper and as a reaction people die people are killed you burn a book and other people die well a book burned in america isn't worth killing people you know running this is zero tolerance if if europe will be tolerant facing zero tolerance this means europe's culture is doomed years. against was why should people burn a book and why should the kloof people because it was spurred. this is the extremism. should try to say to people that please now think about all those things i think all these symbols that are coming up in the political debate but it's also

used by extreme political forces and i think you do so also appealing a gap. because. in. the center oriented politicians the many have paid to do the right things with unemployment. and guiding the economy and all this. and therefore. all the forces are prevailing in this political symbols. well since we've met the hero girl there's one more talk about the complete failure of multiculturalism in europe. the agree that it is failing that it's falling apart how do you think it does still have fusion i don't sail it has failed but there are so many different issues or what is multiculturalism i'm talking about diversity we have always had not versity with respect to religion ethnic background and all this in

europe we are becoming more and more diverse so be should be for instance to today most countries are respecting the right or the word homosexuals. which is unusual it is not a new tenement but a parka we recognize that it's it symbolizes development in over society be becoming more and more diverse and we have to respect it and you kind of do have a video so when for instance the president sarkozy said this about the quality i can understand because he also added. the chance to america live it's also that. we should not a log society is to develop like i agree on we should not have parades societies or be in the societies that develop their own laws. because everybody should have something in the same basis in the same laws but not only on the

polluted the political sphere i mean i mean on the summit level but on the grassroots level we are witnessing today the rise of extremist praised far right parties enough for a big point is. extreme popular point is this that mean that the whole european project is risky. you see. it has been not only at risk. to save the park. earlier. absolutely because we were not able to do literally diversity so we are not able to live with diversity and risk respect if older than. the whole project is that is why i think we should now pay much more intent pension to what is holding us together to. people what are the common european standards the values

that are for all these are rights and obligations and that these rights and obligations are rightfully in triumph in the european convention on human rights and this is the wide salvi important to to strengthen the whole human rights system that we have in europe which i am representing and another question i want to ask you since we still have a couple minutes in the show one of the main. problems that you're working on today is the reform of the court in strasbourg and it's going to concern russia can you can you comment here on what's going to be what it knew and what i would put it in the context that ben talk about because this court is actually representing the common values that we have on the court on the continent and that is why it's so important to strengthen them and that is why it's solving porton to reform the court so that it can do its job. the fact is. we have one hundred people

thousand cases pending in the court so we have to make the court more efficient nonbeliever rush enter yes yes that's right and that is why you have to. make proceedings in the court more efficient and that is why we also need to pay much more attention to helping the contras that you mentioned and some others to reform to do dishes. fight against corruption so that all these applications can be taken care of domesticity and not called me to court in strasbourg so so i mean there is there are. i'm lines of reforms here and one is in the member states one is in the court thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind us that sid a my guest was cover me on yahoo and the secretary general of the council of europe and that's it for now through all of us will be back with more from the comment on was willing to in and outside russia until then stay on target

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