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it will be mostly beneficial goodenough. i aks i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight thank you so much and i really do encourage folks to visit immigrants for sale dot org to get more of the right bank they got a rapid fire we're taking a break we'll be right back. and we are right. and. we haven't got the. safety ready because the freedom. guys welcome to shower and sell me on a shelf which part of our guests have to say on the topic now i want to hear audio
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just go on to you choose a video response i want to twitter on the questions that we've posted on uses every monday and on thursday the show is gone responses. you know sometimes you see a story that seems so silly you think you understand it and then when something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you don't.
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charge. card it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to harold camping now if you're not sure who he is all i have to say is the word the rapture that's right he's the internet radio preacher who predicted the rapture would take place over the weekend and as we all know because we're all still here and alive he was wrong the eighty nine year old cause of frenzy when he said the judgment day would take place at six pm on saturday may twenty first and his prediction it became a huge news here in the u.s. and around the world so when he was wrong the media wanted to know what happened but harold is trying to avoid the spotlight since saturday he told the san francisco chronicle he was the labyrinth gasted that the rapture didn't happen and
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said quote it has been a really tough week and so if the world would have ended it would have been a better week and now our t.v. crew knocked on his door on sunday when harold answered the door he seemed stunned that somebody actually wanted to interview him. i'm so. sorry. this is. for you. now this isn't the first time that the radio preacher has predicted the end of the world he was also wrong back in one thousand nine hundred four just like he was on saturday and his family radio network website had also
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predicted the end of the world there was even a countdown clock on the front page fast forward to the site today and there is not a mention of the rapture on that front page anymore but all of the talk of the rapture really caused some people to believe and become big joiners and as gods donating money to help spread the word you wonder if those people who donated all that money are going to get a refund somehow i bet they won't other people out there quit their jobs to travel around the world telling everybody that may twenty first was the aunt of florida couple sold their home gave notice to work so they could travel and spread it camping's prediction after all he said it was going to happen and now they're broke and they're jobless the l.a. times says that a truck driver took his family to see the grand canyon before the world and it he maxed out his credit cards now all those bills are due and i'm betting that visa and mastercard are going to forgive those charges but in fact these believers are probably scammed according to media reports the retired civil engineer has turned his doomsday predicting into
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a huge money making on profit ministry tax filings from two thousand and nine report more than eighteen million dollars in donations and his mystery is valued at more than one hundred four million dollars so it sounds like the greater miss is calling it a work on wall street and that's why we're giving harold camping our tools i will. or for his latest scam. oh. celestial choirs will be singing. you know on this show we often tell you about corruption scandals people that are doing whatever they can to screw over the little guy so it's pretty rare we actually see people who stand up and do the right thing so rare that we've decided to dedicate a segment to those who offer us a glimmer of hope in this world and for our inaugural segment we go to denver where a judge put it stay on all lawsuits that are being brought forth by right haven see right even is best described as
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a copyright troll this group of lawyers is notorious for going after large groups of people filing a major lawsuit against them and in most cases getting those defendants to settle out of court by paying up big money and in this instance in denver right haven was going after blogs that look at service for news organizations meaning if you use quotes or paragraphs to use in your blog that would be considered copyright infringement and talked about dirty the reason is group is going after the blogs is because they found a loophole and intellectual copyright law which makes suing glocks possible is seen in order for blogs to be protected from ever getting sued they have to pay one hundred five dollars fee to enjoy a legal safe harbor where people can post those comments without fearing of the suit but right haven specifically targets those sites who didn't shell out the money for the fee and now they're getting thousands out of the bloggers that is until colorado judge john cain caught on to what wright haven was doing and he's made it known that he's on that there's actually routine that they developed that's
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why cain froze about thirty five pending lawsuits this past week which i'm sure has right haven's lawyers fuming so all the details of the legality of this lawsuit are being worked out as we hear on the show just want to give judge john king today's plimer of hope award he's aware of the backhanded methods the right even is using to make money off of those blogs that are merely trying to spark an open conversation about current events along all about protecting news sources protecting their work i doubt that these targeted blogs are purposefully maliciously attempting to steal anybody's material sadly i think right haven knew it too they just wanted to make a buck off of bloggers regardless so we here on the show want to thank judge john mccain for giving us a glimmer of hope in today's often gloomy society of greed and corruption. now fox news claims to be fair and balanced about slogan well it's pretty laughable not only is the network explicitly right wing but you could even say that it's an arm of the g.o.p. just look at all the potential republican candidates and it's employed from sarah
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palin and mike huckabee to rick santorum and newt gingrich but has the channel run into a little trouble for fox news chairman roger ailes while the network is beating out all of our cable news channels when it comes to the ratings a new piece a new york magazine by gabriel sherman looks at the potential downsides of those ratings but berger theories hosts calling the president a racist all of that might have earned roger ailes nine hundred million dollars last year but the theory's an extreme that some of those hosts may have also lost the republican party the two thousand and twelve presidency here to discuss this with me is a reporter and blogger for think progress dot org and a progress report and james pillows host of the bottom line chad and i thank you both for joining me tonight so i want to start with you when you think of roger ailes when you think of fox news do you are they the republican party do you think of roger ailes is the head of the republican party thoughts news is an arm of the republican party all the way that the republicans major republicans pay pilgrimage to fox and you think that they were the head of the party i mean you had sarah
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palin be a picture of you're going to be a contributor my how could he have his own t.v. show on fox don't trump when he was you know doing his sort of joke over right i was on fox every monday morning they had exclusive video and i think republicans actually turned to the channel not just to sort of put out their views but to actually build their movement i mean you have every single host on fox right now almost all of them are republicans also the right wing views and they organize they spread their message uncritically and their knowledge you know that you turn for for sort of the visit of you in the party yeah but who is organizing who i mean james i want to go to you on this one isn't roger ailes the one that's hiring all of these contributors that then become potential g.o.p. twenty top candidates it really does seem like he has agenda an. behind the scene to try to get these people into the political race. no seriously agenda gender is not necessarily the same agenda as republican politicians i mean look rather than charming to g.-o. few times for i'd say that ailes is actually helping the g.o.p. by drawing away kunis that would end up being unsuccessful back into the fold of
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fox students you look at the stars of the new law and its people who will ultimately rather not be president they'd rather make some money at fox but do you think that perhaps some of the hosts that we see on the theories that we see on fox news have done a little bit of damage to the republican party to this republican brand because suddenly they've become much more stream in terms of their theories now you're not a real republican candidate if you don't at some point discuss the president's birth certificate. oh i don't know i mean it cuts both ways for every for every glenn beck series on fox news there's some other member of the republican establishment he's pushing to go like a john ensign or english daniel so you know in terms of. perception i think fox news he's been going to let their reputation become what it is not the american people large i don't think that's going to affect the race for president any more than it did in any other sort of significant fashion that we see out there is taking place actually in politics or media but he says that well i think actually
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probably the more opportune question is how is it for the country you know what happens to the country when you have a major news this is sort of validating a man who is questioning where the presidency where the president of the country was born of the country you know every monday morning what it happens to a country when you have every host on a network defending the torture of other human beings you know on a daily basis i mean i think that americans that either they don't agree with the public and politics of the fox news contains the draw republicans that are right they have to go on the trail just to validate themselves or their base they are going to in the end of the day they're going to come less electable things exactly . do you think that also james that it might hurt i mean i think this word really with a grain of credibility of fox news you know when you have got some of these candidates come on that might be a little bit loose flip a little bit crazy. and they're obviously not going like you were saying earlier with perhaps a fox news wants to say but with whatever they want to say and put out there into their you know their political run well just return quickly to what happens when you have a guy. at work he's demanding the prisoners birth certificate every day on television
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well what happens is the president delivers a birth certificate negreanu it's not so i don't see how that continues to affect areas in any significant way other than perhaps to take flood insurance so not everybody has moved on let's just be honest out there the people i think they have subscribe to these theories for the most part has still not moved on well i think you get a moving target you know there are people who are inclined to see a far reaching conspiracy is there some of them are republican some of their democrats many of them are independents if it's not you know most the worst of it question is settled there are other questions you know. truth here is to to true truth there is in all the rest i mean i think the question about credibility is one that will ultimately be answered both in who rises to the top among republican hopefuls for the for the nomination and continues to have a purge of fox news you know when you look at the guys who are there in the stars and sarah palin all the rest of it would be easier that maybe maybe iran's call them you know they're going to be around forever since for many years already got cycled out and i think we'll see how. they're faring in the in the because shirt.
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is anybody that's a really a credible viable opponent for barack obama in two thousand and twelve that's coming from the republican party. we're going to play. with siri for you can't think of one single person you would think then though that there would be that person whoever might be considered the primary that's in roger ailes would want to start putting on t.v. all the time and obviously there are there are rules about a fair amount of time on television and israel doing everything popping up these constituencies you can feel people want to see someone different as a t.v. foster is a t.v. personality and then once you're running for president and i think career fortunes you can certainly piece of the notion that there's some kind of a hundred percent or even second significant overlap between the kinds of talking heads since we're all if you consider talking isn't fox news and national politicians there you know you got to go. you go if you don't people doing
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opposition research on chris christie even though in saying i really commit suicide and the president. is out there and people were urging him to get in the race there's pressure from a close look at her and feel to get some more people in the race and you know even with the fuel that we have there's still lots of folks who i think legitimately are saying i don't like him going to you know force he's a radical. well i would hope that the obama administration is doing some type of research on possible candidates an opponent out there otherwise i just gotta say that they're amateurs but i think part of the problem here is so you look at the people of fox news. you see these a wild crazy extreme personalities be they glenn beck and that's what people start to want in their politicians they want someone like glenn beck to run for office and tim pawlenty is just a complete snooze but at the end of the day so what happens if if a man like glenn beck actually runs for president who just calls the president a socialist and says that he uses nazi tactics and is a racist on
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a daily basis you know i think you hit it on the head a lot i mean we have a network here that's sort of pushing to the far right friends whereas really i think the country deserves is actually to have an intelligent conservative network i mean if you go back thirty forty years you could say well enough. likely on television as we're debating very intelligent with intelligently with like a corby dollar and chomsky or something like that and you actually hashed out a really good conservative ideas i mean i totally disagree with them i thought buckley was a racist not warmonger to be quite so you quite frank but i think that he is going off in a very intelligent manner and he didn't engage in foolishness like you know asking for birth certificates or purporting you know any sort of ridiculous and seriously theories or hosting sarah palin in paying her after she's told people that obamacare is going to kill them i mean you can't have that kind in this country in a major network and not expect it to be shored up and i think it's bad for the country and it came as one that i know. you can't catch a break. if you stick your feet further to write that isn't a lot of sense and then you look again like but if you're on the left you say ok if
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you raise your thoughts you can be but by god if you still think he senses you know this is not exactly a fair and balanced conversation if that's the point of attack you're going to come from you know look at this and here goes the rights that any opposing rights for black people like actual conversation i can think of the number of current and former innocent you see personally. who are exactly friendly. aren't exactly friendly to. intellectual conservative conversation you got here saying i just can't really see it and this is the problem go right m s n b c c n n they're all losing in the ratings compared to fox news but at the same time i don't see any crazy wild personalities in the same sense i think i see a lot more intelligent discussion unless i'm b.c. then i do want to. see not only weren't there anymore yeah i know what happened to keith olbermann. ok so when's the last time you saw a. conservative discussion on fox news james. well gosh i mean there are
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a number of different guys can point to i think still also doing some great work right now i think education falls on it's got a lot of solid jesselyn and you know there's even some crossover i'm happy to say i mean the spirit of it was a child labor laws but i mean it doesn't think we should have fought the civil war i mean. i'm having a really hard time finding finding a sensible sort of consider if we can find common ground and i created conspiracy theories like guess that you know at the end of the day we're seeing if you can that's out there also you could say in the rand pauls the more libertarian movement that are saying the things that maybe americans actually believe that you never saw before but still the end of the day most mainstream politicians won't go there i want to thank you both for joining us tonight james and thank you if you. are still to come tonight we have our monday happy hour a man's bizarre attempt to hide the fact that he didn't get to his white tickets to oprah winfrey's final show got him in trouble last caught on tape police using force to arrest a man in a wheelchair cover those topics and more with j. crew or founder of realist idealist labs and our chief producer lucy catherine
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new website with twenty four seven live streaming news times what to do about the ongoing financial hardship unlimited free high quality videos for download. and stories you may never find mainstream news. of the. week the political. posts aren't done so much to say. hey guys welcome to shelley tell me alone a show we part of our guests have to say on the topic now i want to hear our audience just go on to you tube video response or to twitter for part of a question that we post on you tube every monday and on thursday on the show your
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responses and we like your book we are. all right it's monday and it's time for happy hour joining me this evening is jake for founder of real it's idealist labs and r.t. producer lucy kept enough cheers guys it's monday and we're still here in the world the net and i guess i'm happy about that i thought of it all are going to carville and i you know i know well let's start with the story i mean we always a prom obviously there was all kinds of measures that the administration eight years old have to take to make sure that kids don't bring bottles of booze and they try to search for a limo is but i think it's going a little overboard now in santa fe to. a federal judge actually ruled that the
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t.s.a. had to be a problem and actually residents are now angry because the t.s.a. isn't going to be there they're just going to deal with local police take a look at a clip. things were different this time around they didn't touch me personally they just i mean. well it was. hardly any pat downs are what students from santa fe high school tell us be encountered problems tonight in the wake of two sisters from another santa fe district high school saying they were good at research it's a federal judge ruled yesterday that she is a certified personal supervise district pat downs like those dances are pro-choice it's really what this world is hardly any. in the wake of a don't touch my junk we have celebrations about you know just how little we're getting groped by the t.s.a. this is a business that we have to be thankful that who better to pick for anti groping pat downs than the t.s.a. obviously there's been no controversy with the t.s.a. it just i mean this is what the second week now that we're talking about students
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in a school being interrogated by a federal forces last week we talked about the poor kid who warned obama about potential terrorists on facebook in the secret service investigated him and now the t.s.a. is going to proms or was about a lot of problems i mean like real world issues to more security involvement from the federal government in our high schools absolutely everybody says that was race cool and i'm sure that it's not really that arduous you know call the government saying we'd really love the t.s.a. to tell us we're going to do it can we can we find out who thinks it's a good idea or we like his house or something given all whoever the federal judge is i actually don't have his name on me right now but there is a federal judge in santa fe new mexico. to look at my i've always. wanted something that i just find absolutely hilarious so oprah winfrey this is her last season is at the twenty fifth twenty fifth year right now. so there's a guy who was coming from toronto ontario and told his wife that they were. going for a taping of one of oprah's last shows and it turns out that he didn't actually ever
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buy the tickets so he pretended that he got mugged and the police said that he cut his own forehead with a rock and scraped it on the sidewalk to mimic injuries from a violent street robbery this is also that his wife wouldn't find out and i think we know we know what women look like when they go take a look at that jr is back you know i want to you know. cue the drumroll all right open your boxes. was a one. let me buy the imagine tickets over actually free i guess that makes this guy even a worse husband because he had to shovel out some dough you know he wasn't even cheap he just messed up but that's how sad it is that you would rather scratch
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yourself right your arms on the sidewalk go to the police file a fake report and have to tell your wife that she can't like scream and get something for you can't get in the way between oprah and the woman that love her but the best first of all this guy is canadian so i feel like i've already explained a lot. but second of all what i what i my find most asking about the story is that he said i hispanic man and an. african-american man that's what brought him and beat him down i mean it's only people that are right area the best part of the story though and i agree with that that was shocking for the best part of the story that i love to find out where there was a report of what the guy have to do to be in such so much in the doghouse that he had to make up a story about taking his wife to oprah that would like to leave you all the pride can't we see here i want the back story of this so i bet you a thirty day maybe it's an arnold maybe there is a maid. or there is a child is over there are more like him every day. of infidelity i'm not sure that that's
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a very healthy relationship to get help for me in the world this is what she does to me let's move on to our last clips and i and this one actually isn't really funny at all and this is something that we cover all the time on this show we did a big piece on it on friday and this is excessive use for no reason is by police and this is the metro police in washington take a look. are you kidding me the gang neil chair why do you need to tackle it and well last time i was here we did a piece about a cop who tackled the woman who was walking along the street i think but we're clearly they are thirteen year olds or ten year old girl who got tackled and so now you know clear trend going on here i think i'm really excited because of they were going to just like truly down and out you know really poor people that are getting tackled or how do i call it i call babies or sort of are you going for the most
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evolved over or the seed had a little video where the policeman abt squirrel at a school i mean not obviously isn't like there's a trend of some sort work that's sort of a crazy. out of it that's how well trained our police officers are these days that they can't just go out in this world they have to pay that from five feet away but remember also this is the same police department that decided where an on uniformed police officer decided to put out his gun at a snowball fight which i was actually at so this is all just our stress very well where this is particularly scary for me walking out the door tonight i don't know if i look good enough to knock a tackle or moodle but concerned. i don't know my interactions like i did in what world do you need to tackle somebody who's sitting you don't ever hear i mean if they said that the guy fell down i'm sorry the definition of falling down is moving down rapidly without any sort of free will i don't know if you watch that video but at. was lifted off and slammed down on the floor i don't see how that's an
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accidental no excuses are given to the laws or are they definitely a lot to answer for in the ass like i definitely did not fall down i want to thank you for joining me tonight on this here's. our guys that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in and make sure you come back tomorrow president has changed the rhetoric coming from the white house on israel but what we actually see anything change in the relationship we'll discuss not tomorrow but in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the alone or show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's show or any other nights you can always catch it all the you tube dot com slash the lower show and we post the interviews as well as the show in its entirety coming up next is adam versus the. rachel martin here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture of. the.
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