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and stories you may never find. so. the political. parties are just. hey guys welcome to shalyn tell me alone a show we parted with our guests not to say on the topic now i want to hear audio just go on to you tube the video response or the twitter first part of the question that we've posted on you tube every monday and on thursday the show long response is that we like your voice you. are right it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to a state lawmaker from kansas republican pete digraph is coming under fire today for comments that he made. during
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a debate over abortion rights in the final days of the kansas legislative session lawmakers were discussing a bill that would ban insurance companies from offering abortion coverage in their general health plans except when a woman's life is at risk so the builder actually passed but during the debate a fellow republican female lawmaker questioned whether women would really buy abortion only policies and that's when the graph said that we all need to plan ahead to which his female counterpart asked so you mean women need to plan ahead for issues that they have absolutely no control over with pregnancy and listen to graphs reply he said i have a spare tire on my car now that caused a few people in the chamber to gas and he went on to say i also have life insurance i have a lot of things that i plan ahead for. so apparently peter graf feels that all women should plan ahead for rate but how does one plan ahead for such an event maybe all women should be required to be on birth control just in case you know if
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we got that far maybe all women should be required to keep most of their body covered so they don't entice men better yet why not just make women stay at all in a locked inside for their own safety i think that every woman in kansas and around the world would be livid the pizza grab is using his elected position to assert such a really just discuss the statement to believe that a woman should actually have to prepare for a possible rape is appalling how the lawmaker feel if his wife was great and she didn't have the insurance needed to pay for an abortion i'm pretty sure he would be making a stew would be making stupid comments but then again this guy might actually believe his own despicable right wing rhetoric and that's why kansas republican peter graf is tonight's two time winner. now if you thought that the attack on poker sites by the obama administration was over think again just a month ago we told you about the seizure of three major online poker websites which is now being dubbed black friday poker circles but there are new revelations
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in this battle that left ten more domains with that dreaded f.b.i. logo on their page one of which we should point out is associated with poker star doyle brunson who's been working hard since black friday to distance himself away from all that online controversy but out of maryland a judge has issued two indictments of three individuals for money laundering after it was determined that they set up a fake web sites to process can bring money while the online gambling world is take another massive hit poker communities are working hard to lobby for the government to let their hobby be legal and this weekend kicks off the wildly popular world series of poker annual tournament in las vegas where many are expecting to see a larger turnout than usual all thanks to those online options being seized by the government it's become clear to avid fans of gamble. are sick of having the government determine what should be available for gamblers and what should the people choose to spend their money that way and why not well what are we to do to anyone else if somebody prefers to spend their free time front of
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a computer screen our obama i would seriously reconsider this attack on online gambling fanbase is much bigger than his administration probably realizes and besides twenty twelve is just around the corner. it's the meeting of old and new but could it turn it into a clash for the first time ever be g eight conference is going to be held to perceive the g eight meeting of industrialized nations and the aim here is to get the movers and shakers and painters of the tech world to advise governments on how economic growth on the internet can continue government regulation of the internet does as well now just like the g eight brings together the leaders of the world's richest countries the igi eight is bringing in the leaders of the biggest tech giants that now rule the world in their own respects talking about not mark zuckerberg of facebook google's eric schmidt jeff bezos of amazon microsoft is going to be represented and rupert murdoch for some reason will also be in
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attendance but is there any chance of the two we're going to see eye to eye or is this the beginning of an internet versus government war on a global scale to me to discuss this is aaron schwartz executive director of the man progress dot org eric thanks so much for joining us tonight. for starters does this tell you really how big these tech giants have become in this world that now they're meeting with world leaders of the eight largest industrialized nations i mean that's that's pretty incredible right there now at the highest political level that you can possibly achieve you think of deserved. oh i think it's definitely deserved i mean we've seen our economy now fundamentally runs around these big companies they're some of the biggest companies in the stock market in the industry and so it's just natural that of course the way our companies met with political leaders ahold of our meeting with the people who run these internet companies. or the big difference is that each of these companies are international work on a global scale and they can't be sort of feathered by one regulatory government
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which is why it's so crucial to go to these international gatherings but do you think this is really a consultation process do the leaders from the g eight countries really watch you look at this statement that comes from the e.g.a. are they going to take it in or is this just kind of an excuse for them q encroaching create more regulations on the internet but. you seem to think a lot of people who government don't understand the way of your networks they have this very superficial notion that it's this thing that should just kind of be regulated the same way we all space is regulated the problem is a lot of the laws a lot of things they devised don't make sense on the internet and so they end up just not working and so i think that anything positive can come out of it it could be that the people working at these in the companies could explain the some of these political leaders a little bit more about the fundamentals of the internet so they have a better understanding of what makes sense to regulate and what seems most well eric schmidt that might have a little bit of explaining today i mean the guy obviously is known for making odd
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statements every now and then that he basically said that governments can't regulate the internet big era technology because it just moves too fast and governments just move too slow as we have technology versus bureaucracy do you think eric schmidt is right i think there's definitely a lot of truth to that i mean. what has to be understood is that the apology kind of frames the debate there are some things that are really easy to do our share files and copy and there are some things that are really hard like censorship and so if the government is going to try and come up with a censorship regime in the way the u.s. government is going to work on this week in the senate i don't think that's going to fly because there's so many ways to run around and knowledge is developing so that since they shut down one way or. the new one sprout up on the other hand there are things that can be done to increase our privacy to make sure that you mails that are sent through g.-mail don't get spied on the things we post on praise focus
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share and i think there's a legitimate role for bills to play in protecting our rights online but what has to be understood is the way these things work because. it's putting in october of last the interesting part right because a lot of these tech giants collect all of our private information they have no problem giving it away when it comes to making money off of it and then the government wants to stop that of the government still wants for there to be back doors so they can get information if they need to spy on us it's a very complicated web but to me this do you think that this is you know drawing a few parallels the way that these tech giant c.e.o.'s are acting which i don't know wall street or oil industry executives kind of the the threats that they say they say that if you dare regulate us that's going to stop economic growth that they're too big to regulate essentially. i mean i think there are some parallels but i think what's most interesting is how. have been listened to a lot less than the giants of our lives just because they've gotten so big so fast
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so you know the oil companies always get millions and millions of dollars in subsidies in here but the tech companies seem very little in the way of much more hesitant to engage in washington they don't have a fleet of lobbyists the way other industries do you and so often while they're really doing their real thing those who live lobbyist i mean that's the thing you know i have seen that move of the government and the tech giants becoming closer and closer some people would say that this is the next great war of capitalism that's only beginning you know i mean we're done poorly beginning to see it start and it's a worrying thing in some cases the way companies are paying for especial pleading the way to your company is the issue but on the whole it's hard to point to a lot of bills where you know one tech company or another type company has ram something through with the expense of the public interest on the whole lot the moment what we've seen in general are you know maybe there's not enough privacy regulation but mostly but there are a lot of bills trying to censor the internet regulate the internet control the
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internet and not a lot of people standing up to protect to keep it safe and want to thank you very much for joining us tonight and we will have to wait and see what the statement is that comes out of this g. eight and what they speak about actually gene thanks so much thanks. the sky. the light will come down. so fast you can hire the singing. but appears as if there might be a glimmer of hope when it comes to the obama administration it's exhausting how often we call out obama's team for not only carrying over unfavorable bush powers or powers on the bush era but also expanding that i'm talking about indefinite detention for detainees military tribunals versus civilian courts american citizens on assassination lists and believe me that list goes on and on but could be that
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the president has had a change of heart let me explain the defense authorization bill for two thousand and twelve which we've discussed at length on this program has gone through several drafts and they finally come up with some clear provisions some of those include reduced redefining the authorization of the use of military force to be a forever war banning the use of funds for civil trials for good mood detainee confines of indefinite detention system with less rights for those detainees and making the attorney general require permission from the secretary of defense before prosecuting any terrorist offenses in civilian courts now the obama administration says that if these provisions are included in the final draft bill presented to the president his senior advisers would recommend a veto the reason is that it's officially due to fears of any legislation that could challenge the off the already of the executive branch but could also be efforts by the obama administration to draw a line in the sand encourage congress not to wage a forever war against the entire world we've already told you how the original
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a nap meant of the authorization of the use of military force was a knee jerk reaction by congress to expand the president's powers after nine eleven and as we've spoken about in the past congress wants to expand the a you have to include any and all militant threats as. in the taliban al qaeda and the very way they go wording of all associated forces i would also encourage the president to detain or wage war against pretty much anyone in the world so i was a little taken aback when he actually threatened to veto this bill i mean if anything the president has been demonstrating that he has absolutely no qualms with expanding the powers of the executive branch so forgive us for being surprised by this talk to vetoing provisions that seem to follow the president's recent history now while we wait and see if the president really is going to veto the defense authorization bill we do in the meantime want to hope that the obama administration is offering us a real glimmer of hope. now still to come tonight we have my own flood or supreme
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court issues a limitation when it comes to the use of state secrets but will this limitation really change the questionable buddy buddy relationship between the supreme court and the government and then stick around for happy hour after each other who predicted the rapture is that still going to happen and should we could he be declared a world heritage site by the u.s. parties lauren lyster and risking her as our join me for some time in just a minute. we. heard. we haven't got the. ready for freedom.
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hey guys welcome to shellings tell me alone a show we've heard are just shocked to say on the topic now i want to hear audio just go on to you tube video response i want to twitter first thought of the question the police host on you tube every monday and on thursday the show is gone the sponsors leave your voice. for. fun to.
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get up sometimes to see a story and it seems so poorly you think you understand it and then you've lived something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. tonight i'd like to revisit an issue that we've discussed recently state secrets and the supreme court here member we first told you how the justices opted not to hear a case regarding extraordinary rendition with five people who were or still are detained in guantanamo bay but when the government chose to invoke the state secrets privilege that well structured and legitimate lawsuit died on the spot passports this week or the supreme court heard another case this time involving defense
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contractors boeing and general dynamics who were taking on the government a contract for a twelve stealth fighters back in the late eighty's early ninety's and that going a little bad because of finances and a lack of proper technology and the government wants their money back all three billion dollars of it when the appeal from boeing and general dynamics was greeted with a state secret privilege from the government the supreme court made a surprising move the justices claim that the privilege cannot be invoked it would be used to give the government monetary awards which was the situation in that case now all profession to see the highest court in our country recognize the state secrets privilege doesn't protect the government across the board i just can't help but wonder why they agreed to hear this case over the case involving extraordinary rendition yes i know the government has a really tight relationship with their friends contractors and obviously an even tighter relationship of money but how serious is this case in comparison to one involving inhumane treatment and torture the supreme court of blind died of those
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five people who were victims of rendition blame the showing of a rather side with the government in any instance which violates human rights should we look at this current monetary limitation as a real milestone or do we call out the justices for making a meager attempt showing us are not really about protecting they really are just about protecting the government i think the answer there is obvious hell even the u.s. solicitor general neal katyal argue that the government's interest in national security must be deemed paramount to the interests of private litigants and pursuing civil actions so as the. simply admitting that there's a hierarchy in our country where national security is more important to protecting civil rights so anybody really be surprised the supreme court chose to respect the state secrets privilege of user to future lawsuits no matter how legitimate the case might be like i said that's just my prediction frankly i'd love to be wrong on it.
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it's time for happy hour on this tuesday and joining me tonight is archie correspondent lauren lyster and archie correspondents christine freeze out my two favorite ladies. like ok so we're all obviously really happy when it's six o'clock on saturday we're told by the world didn't end and i think yesterday but yesterday i think we did a little celebrating over that yesterday harold camping it seemed a little upset when people reporters not on a store of the weekend he was ready to talk about the issues that he had a really tough weekend but now he's back and well the end of the world is still coming to display a new prediction let's take a look. you know look let me. say it is what you're going to find out that i'm going to be saying. there's not a new day there's not a new big we've already been talking. again in the game about the end of the
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world. twenty one and two thousand. oh no obviously the whole time it was october twenty first two idiots you think was a great twenty first i mean i just can't believe this guy just push it back it's still coming the thing that bothers me is that it's always about quoting the bible while the bible told me this and there's he's got a whole host of followers that spent all this money that sold their homes that you know expensive meals which by the way i would do the same if i actually believed the world was ending too but people who believed him and it's funny to say it to hear the mainstay the bible told me so and to be to be here his they will this is what i said all along is a little like when famous people just can't step out of the spotlight when their time has come you know they just keep trying to put out a new song keep trying to find out of you know they are not anymore and clearly are past their prime it's like you can't let it go maybe he's just hoping if he was postponing it he would have to deal with that i mean he's eighty nine now maybe he's thinking you know maybe he will. hope for
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a little yeah maybe you know end of the world again before. the world one thousand nine hundred four so i actually thought we would have another couple decades or you know fifteen years or so before we have to listen to this again unfortunately it's going to be five more months but i want to see if the media watches on that's a really good point you know he's not giving him very much time to recover maybe he's like feeling like i might as well capitalize on this press and keep it keep the train writing has all these people did you know take their kids down a little landing and that yeah yeah jane if you're one of these people one hundred million dollars you just sold all your money you quit your job you moved your kids and then you find out that you're six months too early what do you do for the rest of the time i guess you get you do you know i try and tell us over to him first it's b.s. anyway i'm let's move on i don't know if you guys are flown ryanair. no i haven't but i'm not going to they are living on the. air let me just put it that way right it became really popular when i was studying abroad while i was in college and like
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in france and italy and spain and it's the airlines you can go to that you can just get really cheap tickets to fly all over europe but they never fly you into the real city bureau is it like a tiny jakey airport outside of the city this is the airline also that makes people now pay for the bathroom this is also the airline that is suggested having people pay for standing seats but i think you really might like their next thing let's take a look at to see what it is that they want to start flying through to look at this clip. well from erupting icelandic volcano is causing further disruption to travel just sweeps over europe more than two hundred kilo users and cancellations supreme reported in parts of scandinavia scotland wallace rough times over the services and with the followers of saturday's eruption all of us learn so much like you fall kind of a lot of just such a right you get a good look at the volcanic ash that looks pretty thick and scary to me but ryanair
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in order to protest the fact that they've been canceling flights and we flew one of our planes right through there right through the thickest part and it was no big deal it's all good just keep cool you got to keep those bears low you got to get you going through those clouds in order to keep our money percent discount let me go to the manager i might actually do that just so you know give the other side perhaps i mean the last time there was this volcano is shut down for i think seventeen days or something like that and only one time it was a very long time and i think they were just trying to be safe they hadn't seen from like this in a while of course it disrupted air travel and it certainly disrupted moneymaking in business so perhaps they're just trying to say you know what we're going to fly through it at its worst and not look horrible but did they ask the passengers that were on the plane i had a time hey guys do you mind if we experimentally fly you through the thickest part of the volcanic ash i wonder i wonder if they have the right to opt out of here at least not very much but i do think it's like you know you got to pick your poison depending on the continent you know in the united states have to deal with your air
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traffic controllers falling asleep in your planes crashing as a result over there you need to you know fly through some volcanic clouds in order to get where you're going was one of them cannot ever know you're going to get ok now let's go back to dominic strauss kahn in his stand up we haven't really talked about it in a little while but since we were in iran. he's got a lot of people that are supporting him majority the french population thinks that he's been set up we've heard french officials say that they think that this perp walk that we've seen is absolutely ridiculous and one of his strongest supporters has been in art and henry levy i don't know if i'm saying his name properly but he's a philosopher that's basically just been supporting him every step of the way this is one clip of him. and. you know so.
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the world wide. ok before we get into the story the funny part is he was talking to eliot. i'm like so now he's saying those are great with them he's written a new piece basically and he's still just so taken aback that somebody with dominique strauss kahn status has to deal with this now he's decided to make all the howlers in the media shut up but i just make it go away i think it's really interesting because there did seem to be that school of thought especially in france that this was a witch. but i guess i thought that once they found the d.n.a. evidence on the maids. that then refuted though i feel like that is something that the media was reporting this morning and then i saw reports of the n.y.p.d. said that that's not true and that's where i guess you can understand you know some of the media the constant circus because some time and time again and especially this happened you know in the united states it happened in new york it was you know pulled off his plane just as he was about to head back there might be
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a little bit you know a sticky situation between the french and how they feel that they're treated when they send their highest most important people to the united states and i you know to be fair i know that there's been a lot of criticism of me. is a levy i don't know what he's on his head right but i think you make some fair points i do have to say i mean the way the dominick's trust khan has been paraded in handcuffs and done these purple hearts i mean he is a feint you know whether he is found innocent or proven guilty like the damage is done and i think that you know i'm not going to guarantee because i believe that's actually a fair point he's already been convicted and well that's something that's something that we that we see. a lot here you wonder how a lot of these celebrities that then get put all over the media can you really get a fair trial in that sense does it even matter you know what the sentencing is or what the conviction is at the end because the often people remember the very first thing that they see but it's an interesting balance between believing in the
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freedom of the press to say whatever it is they want to say to follow a story versus you know believing that there is some type of sensitivity that should be had and i like to use are you going to reverse classes. i mean i was seriously i mean i was a little mad i played there's a i told the audience because people were siding with the the poor immigrant made versus the rich old white guy things just never and our girls thanks so much for joining me tonight. now that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in to make sure you can back tomorrow defense secretary robert gates wants out of the need to reduce waste of military spending doesn't change his mind and does not mean that nobody out there can cut defense budget a look into that tomorrow and we in time don't forget become a fan of the ilona show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's show or any other nights you can always catch a. show or post the interviews as well as the show in entirety coming up next is adam vs the night.
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