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the speed of money well. we never got the says the earth into safe get ready because your freedoms. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lack of sleep you think you understand it and then you live something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok you don't. charge welcome to the big picture. for fun. for
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fun. welcome back to the big picture on thom hartmann coming up in this half hour could the business of selling medical marijuana become the next entrepreneurial boom house democrats are actually working to make that happen plus greenpeace's released a new record citing the latest radiation levels in the japan coast is the ravaged country out of the danger zone and free public education for our nation's children
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is a right is that in today's daily take i'll tell you why some republicans believe it should become a privilege. was democrats are crusading for medical marijuana writes congressman pete stark jared polis and barney frank no shrinking violet introduced a series a bill of bills to protect medical marijuana entrepreneurs the legislation classifies medical marijuana dispensaries as legitimate small businesses those able to take advantage of federal tax deductions just like any other small business it also gives immunity from federal prosecution to any person or business in the medical marijuana industry as long as they're operating in compliance with state and local laws in addition to these reforms other measures ensure that medical
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marijuana dispensaries have full access to the american banking system and the marijuana is reclassified is a drug that is not highly addictive and does have medical value so what kind of impact of these commonsense reforms have on the medical marijuana industry what are the chances that they can get asked joining me now to offer their takes from new york david silva conservative commentator and federal tax expert advocate and alan . same here executive director of normal national organization reform marijuana laws well so. glad to have you guys with us here allan how are medical marijuana dispensaries different from others where this is right now they're illegal under federal laws but we have sixteen states in the district of columbia that have either by initiative or by legislation made marijuana legal state of colorado and others tax and control the drug despite the federal probation so. the way that dispensaries if they're if it's an illegal business then they can take tax
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deductions for granted they click that is the argument that was made in a case four years ago that's called champ and that the i.r.s. ruled against a dispensary for four hundred eighty thousand they litigated it brought it down to four thousand dollars and they got their legitimate expenses if that case prevails then these twenty three hundred dispensaries around the united states will continue to keep growing interesting very interesting david what's so scary about marijuana why are you opposed to this one when these medical purposes have been defined by reasonably good or not reasonably good science have been published by the american academy of science. well i've just approach this from a tax perspective the real concern here is that. legalisation of marijuana will cost the taxpayer an awful lot more than the benefits we receive and i'll give you an actual case in point there's presently i believe twenty states
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with a marijuana tax stamp and so far over the past twenty years not a single state or municipality has collected one thin dime of voluntary marijuana tax and the argument is people will say i never paid tax on this before why should i now it allows for a black marketeers to come in under cut the market additional. that was the argument was i mean it's against that was the argument was made against not having taxes on things over the internet i mean if the us very true i'd have said that's still a very contentious issue right now it is delusional people have not been named taxes because they're illegal companies there's no provision in state law to get in taxes . well be that as it may you're still allowed to pay the taxes you do not have to but you got it right it will drag and we're going to have the money say you're weird wanderin money i mean it's it's just it seems like it's not distro. that is
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absolutely not true sir there is a provision within the i.r.c. that allows and as a matter of fact mandates that if you do make money is from selling marijuana legal or otherwise you are obligated to pay taxes on it and so as i said so far nobody has voluntarily paid a dime additionally when you legalize excuse me excuse me let's you yes sir let's be clear the states of oregon colorado new mexico have taken already tens of millions of dollars in taxes from legally sold marijuana products currently they have already gotten there have already violated federal law they have to go why that's the conundrum of speaking against the expenses that it also generates additionally by legalizing it again as i was saying you will open up the door to the free market the prices were lower goodies if you are going to tax the wait a minute if you're going to tax that now an individual who is selling it again on the black market is going to be able to sell it less than this so-called with your
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oh look at d.c. so i look at your committee and we're going to spend more with the states and you are residing in accra who reside in the prime example right now in new york you have an illegal market for cigarettes because your state over taxes cigarettes in a united states does not tax the product so therefore if we want to have the product controlled by the government taxation and control is the only essence seventy five. here's a prohibition doesn't actually put a time in the tiller not to die and so both of you are a lot of well you know if you don't work ta you know if marijuana is being sold as medicine right how is it any different going to a marijuana dispensary how is that any different than going to your local pharmacy and getting you know in a painkiller the only difference right now is the drug is not controlled or through a tax regulation of the f.d.a. nobody wants all that's in place and you know this if this kind of legislation passes it's just going to a different kind of drug store is that there's four hundred thousand pharmaceuticals in the united states that are sold this would just simply be
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another one yeah. but there would be places that would specialize in it or maybe pharmacies would just start carrying pock why go to your local c.v.s. and say you know. made a fortune by selling alcohol legally during prohibition to those who need it hundreds of thousands of people got out there and were big you either got it is the most mis leading possible analogy you could be making and by the way this was this argument was also made in proposition nineteen last year drawing last. three percentage points you lost all the city in two thousand and twelve c. in two thousand and twelve you know when this great is just a thousand and eleven i mean lost in two thousand and ten and tell them why they decided because of the money not because of the social implications bay because it is always locations in the money fifty five percent of all federal prisoners are there for drug offenses and you know pot is a good enough of the use i would say started on a lot of those rajar we wasted all of this is why are we wasting money on what
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should be a medical problem you know portugal decriminalised all drugs not just pot and what happened there crime went rate went down their petty crime went rate went down and addiction to serious drugs has fallen off the cliff if you don't have auditors out there house window. well that's just the thing tom you're going to give up one expense for another you're not going. get rid of the black market because one third of your drug addled audience does not want to pay taxes on the dope they regularly smoke for millions no reason in the sun is no reason she's here everybody can have knowledge is no panaceas here prohibition in a free market oriented society doesn't work for popular products does it not it did not work for alcohol we thought you were talking basically about a recreational intox this case if it was drug about legalizing it was here we're talking about medicine and this stuff has been demonstrated to work for the alcohol not for cancer for wait a minute it's on the news there's
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a lot medicine well i think we're going to try to cut our conversation is going to do when it's all you know knowledge that and we've got to wrap it up but i want to thank you both for being here david thank you very much for joining us from new york alan thank you for the security your viewing audience they've been so nice to me thank you thank you david it's about time for some common sense marijuana reforms in this country too much money as been wasted in too many lives have been ruined by richard nixon so-called war on drugs. a new leak was discovered at the crippled fukushima nuclear plant in japan today spewing fifty seven. of radioactive waste into a nearby trench meanwhile according to a new report from greenpeace sea life off the coast of the meltdown fukushima
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nuclear plant contains high levels of radiation japanese officials assured the world that the tons and tons of radioactive waste water that's been dumped into the ocean will dilute enough to not pose a health risk but this new report from greenpeace concluded otherwise tests on fish oysters and seaweed more than twelve miles off the coast contain levels of radiation if the times it's that's five by. thousand percent above the legal limits so what are these radiation levels mean for potential seafood eaters should we be worried and welcoming done if anything to stop further contamination here offer some answers on this is kevin camp's radioactive waste specialist at beyond nuclear doubt or kevin welcome back so first of all how serious of the fighting is in this green peace report well it's very serious medical seaweed that fifteen times the permissable radiation dose even the permissible radiation dose carries a health risk so fifty times that a lot of people in japan eat edible seaweed i get i will see read you get sushi
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they do you get the little i forget what they call the salad with the green sea weed in it i mean there's no what's incredible is the u.s. stuff the u.s. federal agencies that are supposed to protect the american public against radioactivity risks have largely dismantled any emergency systems for radiation monitoring that have been set up after fukushima we're back to our preferred machine. radiation monitoring system which means in some cases for milk for example it's once every three months that they're examining the milk we've still got a very serious nuclear catastrophe in full swing in japan so kevin has this as this cotton's you said so it was finished it's incredible that the u.s. federal government would take that kind of action but at a price to the seafood supply as well they've really not taken any special measures to examine the seafood supply. have it almost looks like our government has. we're going to actually back off on checking for radiation on these products
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that are being imported and in giant container ships i mean we're not talking about you know a basket for the seafood coming in here we're talking about thousands of tons of seafood coming into the united states from that part of the world every month or whatever every certainly every year. has this reached the absurd point now where if somebody wanted to smuggle radioactive material into the united states for example to make a. dirty bomb while it would have been more difficult before because we have all these radiation detectors now all they'd have to do is stashed in with a bunch of shrimp well what's incredible is i just spent the whole day at the nuclear regulatory commission a special post fukushima evaluation meeting where there's so many question marks they don't know what's going on although they think they have a lot of radiation data from the earliest days of this thing that i hadn't been. shown before so you know the cover up is in full swing from the nuclear establishment not only in japan but here in the united states which raises the
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question. are are we looking at regulatory capture here in the united states is this a classic example of where the regulators have been captured by the industry and you know either as a result of the revolving door problem or you know that after they leave that the you know regularly get a job in industry for a lot more or more just being intimidated or i mean what's going on is very much so before fukushima began i called the nuclear regulatory commission a rogue agency captured by the industry it's close to regulate well that was on full display today i mean sitting in this room of mostly government officials but a lot of industry people as well you hear a lot of gallows humor about what's going on in japan and one gentleman said to another who works for the nuclear energy institute why don't you guys get over there were some buckets and help control this radioactive water situation ha that's real funny you know it's it's an unprecedented global catastrophe in full swing and some of the academics at this advisory committee on reactor safeguards and n.r.c.
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right oh so interesting it's just oh so interesting it's almost like we're so glad this is happening because we're going to learn so much how much the public gets to find out from what we learned that's another question but so far there are two sets of data being kept the one that's public and one that's not public well there was a lot of information about how much radioactivity was being detected in the earliest days that i had not heard before and i've been trying to keep my finger on the pulse of the situation and this was stated. accumulated by the us from us detection devices replace us federal government whether you are military the department of energy there are a number of groups friends of the earth for example who filed a freedom of information act request to the federal aid is going to i don't paint not responded to yet but incredibly information is being shared today in this meeting up at the headquarters of the n.r.c. but by the time we really know what's going on we'll have already eaten things will have cesium in our bodies that we don't already know where a lot of weeks ago this catastrophe and tokyo electric power company just
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a few days ago admits well you know we probably have had three largely full scale meltdowns it's taken them eleven weeks to admit what happened in the first days if not the first hours there's some indication that unit wind may have melted down before the tsunami hit below those are the indications that just as aren't always right before this isn't quite so big in others before it was power the some of the numbers that i've seen indicate that for example chernobyl may have killed as many as a million people the american above ground nuclear testing back in the one nine hundred fifty s. may have killed well over a million people. that never got caught or didn't either case. how does. compared to chernobyl or to the u.s. about ground testing or the french test in the pacific in this last minute we have well harvey wasserman a new creed out or just put out an essay today comparing the oceanic contamination from chernobyl to fukushima granted turnover was inland it's not directly on the
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ocean levels ten times true knoebels radioactivity in the sea so his question was is this ten times journal radioactive poisoning of the ocean and those currents come right to the u.s. west coast that tuna migrate the salmon migrate from japan to the u.s. let alone imports from that part of the world here the fish swim here they're coming here they're contaminated very likely the food chain is contam. needed at this point in time to become vegetarian. through the well a lot of vegetables are contaminated there's that gallows humor i you know i guess this is so bad that for some people the only response is to try and figure out. how to there's like that just very quickly question it we're out of time but a very quick question what can we as citizens to to to shake up our regulatory agency to get some real information when we talked a direct route is for folks to call their two senators and their representatives of epicurus help which ward the congress has oversight on these agencies these
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agencies are out of control ok kevin thanks so much for being with us and thank you very great to see you again i have a bad feeling that this is just the first of a series of permanent consequences resulting from from the fukushima disaster and our world's dependence on the most expensive form of electricity generation that exists nuclear energy. it's time for a daily poll your chance to tell us what you think here's today's question vouchers versus public schools is education a right or a privilege and choices are a free public schools a right or b. it's just fine that republicans turn public education over to profit making private schools for their millionaire buddies i'll give you my opinion on this very matter and i still take.
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crazy alert the human will load a man in new zealand nearly died in the most unusual of ways steve mcclaren actor was at a gas station when he slipped and fell on top of a broken air pressure valve i should say the valve entered mccormick's body through a most unlucky posterior ways and immediately shot area hundred pounds per square inch right into him inflating his body to twice its normal size in just a matter of minutes it took three days for mccormick to shrink back to normal size and he says it wasn't a pleasant experience for him or anyone else in that wing of the hospital. just then it seemed so clear aiden that you just go right for the swelling because i didn't plan to take on and live without that scars in your neck so for more. things that you don't need to be pure evil a body else is rounded up under the circumstances. that you what was that. so
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you just have to find out if they have. an appropriate sort of guy who i. don't know more stars luckily there was no permanent damage and looks like mccormick could have quite a future in conservative talk radio since he already meets one of the few requirements he has a history of being full of hot air. raise your hand if you're in violation of your state's constitution that's right the new jersey supreme court ruled yesterday that republican governor chris christie's enormous cuts to education cuts mostly targeting schools and low income districts are in violation of the state's constitution which requires the state to provide for the maintenance and support of a thorough and efficient system of free public schools for these struction of all
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the children in the state between the ages of five and eighteen years key words right there free public education for some reason chris christie as well as a slew of other republicans around the country think they can get around that requirement of free and public education by instead offering a free for profit private education or free religious private education private education that's been proven over and over again to not yield any better results for students than public education becomes with a much higher price because the nice fat profit margin for education company c.e.o. is the way this all works is the state launders the education money to big corporations in the state to get around the constitutional requirement for the separation of church and state and then parents end up with boucher's for a few thousand dollars each that they can use to send their kids to either for profit schools run by cronies of the govern. or religious schools associated with
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churches that help the governor get and stay like that everybody wins except the kids and the taxpayers kids get an education is no better than public schools and in some cases far worse for example do you want your tax payers being used to teach children this science is evil in the world is only six thousand years old that's a great generation of future engineers right but the gov and the republicans get a lot a lot of mega churches fundamentalist religion groups and the for profit school owners and c.e.o.'s that they plea golf with and get their campaign contributions from here's how the scam works you jersey republican governor chris christie cut eight hundred twenty million dollars out of his education budget last year then created an eight hundred twenty five million dollars school voucher program this year and wisconsin governor scott walker is slashing nine hundred million dollars out of his education budget and adding seven hundred fifty million dollars to a school voucher program so forcing us to use our tax dollars to undermine our very
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own public education systems what's worse some of the private schools that benefit from these vouchers are religious schools so not only are we committing tax dollars toward ruining public education but we're also committing tax dollars to tearing down that wall of separation between church and state that thomas jefferson so eloquently wrote about so we have federal education dollars going to c.e.o.'s who only care about profits and federal education dollars going to churches that only care about getting the religious message across and these churches like the corporations have a whole new revenue stream to support their of angela's them and a whole crop of young new converts all your nickel. we as a nation we cited a long time ago to make education a part of the commons something that belongs to all of us all of us citizens and not for corporations to carve up watered down and sell back to us at
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a profit for example this was the dream of thomas jefferson who founded the university of virginia as a beacon of public education a school that would serve both aristocrats and uppers the university of virginia was one of jefferson's premier accomplishments in a life of endless a contractor got accomplishments in fact he wanted a grave on his tombstone not that he was the third present the united states we won't find that there on his tombstone but that he was the founder of the university of virginia that's how much he cared about it in seven hundred eighty six jefferson wrote about a system of public education he wrote i think by far the most important bill in our whole code is that for the diffusion of knowledge among the people no other sure foundation can be devised for the preservation and freedom of appius a stablish and improve the law for educating the people let our countrymen know that the people alone can protect us against these evils of tyranny and oppression
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and that the tax which will be paid for this purpose is not more than a thousandth part of what would be paid to kings priests and nobles who will rise up and among us if we leave the people in ignorance in large part because of jefferson's fight every state in the union today has a provision in their constitution to provide free public education to all of its citizens just the way our founding fathers vision. and this system lasted for years and years from one thousand nine hundred eighty one when ronald reagan started the war of public education he immediately slashed the federal education budget in half he put bill bennett in charge of the federal education department a guy who had campaigned on eliminating the apartment and told for profit businesses to step up and pick up the slack and now reagan worshippers like chris christie and scott walker five themselves in positions of power around the country
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and they want to further expand private education until it completely replaces public education but we can't let them do it just like the new jersey supreme court stood up yesterday for the rights of students to have access to free public education we need to stand up and tell our lawmakers that we're tired of having our education of our kids outsourced to greedy c.e.o.'s are being forced to pay for other people's kids to go to church schools as jefferson warned the taxes we all pay to educate americans are far less than the consequences of not educating them like the cost of tyrants rising to power in an ignorant america let's kick the profiteers and the evangelists out of our schools that's the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we covered visit our website it's a time our at our t. dot com also check out our you tube page you tube the constellation of big picture arts and you tube dot com slash tom parker and this entire show is available as
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