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welcome the loner show real get the real headlines with none of them or see or can live out of washington d.c. now if they were asked to do prisons get better funding than public schools i'll tell you how michigan decides where their money goes and if they've got their priorities all wrong and a swat raid gone wrong leaves a former marine that with sixty bullets in his chest then i will show you the just released a video of this botched raid and will determine why events like this never get the media attention that they deserve and next is ignorance bliss well that might be
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the case with the growing wealth gap in the united states and i will find out why most people think of the wealth disparity doesn't affect them and if this trend continues it's america's going to look like twenty years from now then it is college worth it chronic unemployment numbers and more college graduate graduates stuck with piles of debt many are looking for other non collegiate options so we'll tell you about one man's plan to fund a college dropouts and help them strive to succeed all that and i and our friday edition of happy hour but for now let's move on to our top story. i think asian spending is being slashed across the country right now but a high number of states facing budget shortfalls governors have decided that it's better to cut from schools than to raise taxes a state of michigan particularly just saw its senate pass a bill because four hundred and seventy dollars per student in schools in grades k. through twelve so what are schools to do well one superintendent has an idea turned them into prisons and a letter to the editor of
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a local paper nathan booth laid out a staggering juxtaposition of the state of michigan spends annually somewhere between thirty thousand and forty thousand per prisoner if they're struggling to provide schools with seven thousand dollars per student so why is that the case joining me to discuss this is nathan booth superintendent for it pick on michigan public schools they thank you so much for joining us tonight now you're getting some attention obviously with this letter and clearly i don't think that you really want to turn public schools in michigan into prisons but why did you decide to write this letter that way it was an easy wage for people to understand how much a student gets from the state government and another area of the state government is our corrections system and right now we currently receive for the school year seven thousand three hundred sixteen dollars but the costs are talking about to drop my district closer to six hundred dollars less per student on this in so i want to drive just look at attention to my local public and that's why i started
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with the letter to the editor twenty local newspaper and then i follow up with letters to thirteen legislators as well as my governor and to this date i haven't had a response from any of them either with your phone but it's been one of those items a strong a lot of attention. it was definitely a lot of attention i'm surprised actually the governor hasn't yet responded to what you have to say but you mentioned that prisoners versus students receive health care that they get a gym that they get three meals a day are you implying that prisoners are treated too well in this country or are you just trying to point out how poorly students are treated. i really believe that prisoners have some probably unnecessary perch at this point i had a lot of friends who are corrections officers my father in law works in the department of corrections and it runs pretty consistent saying prisoners get a little bit too much it's a little rosy for him and i know that when you're talking about funding and education and what rules he never comes up it's always tough it's cut there's cut
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there that you know i'm in a school district right now that don't have to consider cutting transportation you have to consider cutting and cutting sports i can't fit my computer labs of new computers or seven years old if you really want michigan to move forward if i need to reinvent michigan and reimagine how we educate kids how can i really do that with less and less fun and we've been doing it funny thing for the last five to seven years do you think that perhaps michigan just has its priorities wrong are not only are they not investing in their schools but you can say it as something of happening across the country california is a perfect example of prisons that are simply overcrowded of laws that are too absurd you know a lot of people profiting off of the prison industry and maybe that's why our problems there. i think michigan has their their heart and rights great place but i do know that i think we probably incarcerate too many people or keep them for too long there's other states in the great lakes region they can take care of prisoner
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for less money you know everyone hears about the. arizona and health page from out there who are there but prisoners sleep in tents and eat lonely sandwiches and you know what i'm talking about cut and basic programs from education. i don't magically think how can we do corrections better how can we do my education better we try to streamline as much as we do in michigan and michigan is in a tough spot but we're on the upswing right now things are getting better in michigan and the governor and i i think we just disagree on how to get there well that they do think what you said in michigan probably has its heart in the right place is the governor the one with his heart in the wrong place that he thinks that perhaps taxes for businesses should not be raised but schools should be cut. i don't think the governor has his heart in the wrong place i think he wants what's best for kids but we definitely disagree and how we're going to get there and i know he's real big on current business taxes and making it better for businesses because in the long run he's trying to predict that if we lower business taxes that
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businesses will come to michigan and then you know looking to three four years down the road when those businesses come back jobs come back when jobs come back people come back people come back their parents they bring kids of them and i think that's how he sees it happening and maybe he's right but in the meantime is it necessary for us to take such a huge whack an education your mission apartment and i finished an apartment of the governor said in a couple different statements that we're looking for shared sacrifice why would we want to sacrifice kids' education i think of that's a very good question and you say that perhaps what he wants to do is he wants to bring more families more businesses there but more families they bring to schools that are inadequately prepared to take on more students or to really give them a proper education that to be a problem i'm just curious are other people in your community as you know outraged or upset about this as you are. i'll say that since this letter has gone out
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a couple weeks ago actually and i afford it to a couple other different newspapers and then some people have gotten it into facebook sites i've heard from all over twenty different states now and over three hundred e-mails in the last seventy two hours and i've had maybe two or three people total later they want to make a point about how this really isn't you know valid or the truth ninety eight ninety nine percent of the people that you know you had there's no reason to have mr which thank you very much for for pointing out this kind of a discrepancy we need to focus more on education we need to put more money into education people have been very responsive we struck a chord the thing is unfortunately as a live we've seen a a lot of republican governors come into office and last november's elections and these people were voted in americans or bought it strict cuts and i think that now unfortunately they're seeing you know some of the consequences of what it was that they asked for in that sense but also that's what they g.o.p. has decided to make a priority when it comes to those cuts and even i want to thank you very much for
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joining us and do let us know if the governor has i have to finally get back to you on that month. you'll be the first to know thanks. also to come tonight shot sixty times during a drug raid tonight or not a video of the shooting is released as police try to convince the public if their shooting of a former marine was justified because bradley balko c.n.n. senior writer for the huffington post about this break on iraq and also ahead we'll look at well disparities here in the u.s. as the american public realize how far apart the classes really are in this country back into the mind. let's not give that we the far far more. well. we haven't got the.
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safe get ready because the freedom. hi guys welcome to shower is hell on the obama show which part of our guests have to say on the topic now i want to hear audio just go on to you tube to video on our twitter first one of the questions that we host on you tube every monday and on thursday the show long response is we will be. fun fun. fun. fun to.
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play. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley is that you understand it and then he lives something else news hears you some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. even watching the mainstream news at all lately you've seen nonstop coverage of the casey anthony story. the defense is saying this wasn't murder this was an accident that killed drowned in the family's swimming pool did this defense surprise you with all of the judges reading that indictment she would look down at her computer
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look down at the desk finally cry in front of the jury and throughout jury selection today she would very rarely meet the jurors gaze i like. a riveting testimony a day four of the casey anthony murder trial here we are as we try to find justice somewhere for this little girl. it's a riveting and sickening story of a mother who allegedly killed her own child or is there a reason that it's headline news all day on all channels the say something greater about a societal problem i'll tell you what story the case of jose graner to tour a former marine who was killed by a swat team carrying out a raid in pima county arizona police released over seventy rounds in a matter of about seven seconds at least sixty of those he greener and why he bled to death the police wouldn't allow paramedics access him inside the house now the end of it no drugs nothing illegal was found just weapons and armor that a former marine may legally possess ells well as a border patrol baseball hat at least try to clean or the law enforcement uniform
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as the story we began covering here on the lower show weeks ago but now more details have emerged including a video released by the department of police. so this unfortunately is a scene that we see or read about far too often raids gone wrong turning violent innocent men and women killed but they rarely make the news like the casey anthony's of the world to you to join me to discuss why that is radley balko senior writer for the huffington post bradley always great to have you on the show now you've been covering the story pretty extensively and the story itself has changed many times surprise surprise can you walk us through some of the inconsistency is. chair will do him a county sheriff's department originally said. mr crane ahead fired at them. later
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changed that story to say that actually i don't we have had he not fired but that is his right it was the safety was still engaged. after he was shot they're now saying this was originally an american marijuana investigation now they're saying it was part of a home an investigation into a home invasion ring and they're saying bad you know he was a potentially very dangerous person and the name possibly committing armed robbery is actually what they're saying it seems linked to a chain of armed robberies. last night and they did a big document dump the sheriff's department did and you know we found basically that some of his relatives may have been involved in some months some of the sex a body but so far there's no evidence still no evidence that he runs the thing is that the sheriff's department has even scolded the needy at for criticizing this story for criticizing the fact that the information keeps changing and forth questioning whether the raid really was conducted illegally is that something that you know that we see often is that
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a trend when you cover these cases yeah it's typical of what they do is when when people start asking questions about one of these where it's a mystery when you know to see to some the full story how to do a couple things first they go in a kind of reporter mentality and they start cutting off information for this case they're sealed the search warrants and the police affidavit that led to the ring and then they also do kind of a leaking smear campaign against the person who was killed in the ring and we've seen it will in this case with mr raina and we have had no prior criminal record again nothing equals and i would you know i mean even if even if he was part of this home we should really i mean this was a really sloppy careless unprofessional rate and if you look at the video i've actually talked to some former military people who carry carry out these raids and train people to carry them out in iraq and afghanistan over the last twenty four hours or so until. i mean we show we can work caution and green more consideration
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for the possibility of innocence and buildings when we carry out raids on a battlefield you know and these are u.s. citizens who essentially have constitutional rights and people military seniors rates those c.d.o. this very. true astounded by what this one said it was certainly a keystone kops looking scenario if you know it would be funny if it were for practice it would actually be guidance what the bright minds have desires you could say that easily the police often just release their side of the story or the little bit of information that make them look good i wouldn't say that this video makes them look good why do you think they decided to put it out there. i think david makes it look i mean there is a siren it goes off for about eight seconds and you see them actually not going announce themselves but generally if you sort of watch a video and put yourself in mr green issues an imagineer sleep after working a graveyard shift and ask yourself you know you're behind a couple of you know a couple separate you and you sleep out just to ask yourself it would you have known that these were cops outside of your home or would you have thought you know
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there are people there to do your harm do you harm i mean if you think about it some day at least seventy rounds into a hole where there was a four year old child inside which they do you know about which says a little bit more about their investigation i think we also know that they raided broke into a house across the street afterward because you found all the force inside of that house which of course were from their own guns their own wallets and worry that they hit somebody in the house so then they break the door down to that house and storm that house you know what if somebody in that house with a gun as well i mean it was it is so incredibly sloppy and be interesting means it's a neighborhood it's a close the houses are close together and you knew this was wrong on so many different levels even if arena was the you know perspective criminal to make him out of the and i'm not yet convinced that he was having a it's a grave offense either way this is the death of an american citizen at the hands of authorities and you want to talk about this all the time that's definitely evident i thought it incident but how can this doesn't get the media coverage that say the
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casey anthony trial that's where the media feels the need to cover it twenty four hours a day nonstop update you on every move she makes and she's inside of the courtroom . you know i don't know i mean i think part of it is kind of deference to the law enforcement deference to government on the media by the media i think there's a president since repression the police a lot of times you know you're dealing with somebody who the police are saying is a suspected criminal so there's not the sort of natural sympathy that people might have that they would have for a child and also coming to just you know. charity promise for back information so you know the story you're right now is how little information there is which you know doesn't make for good television yes but if we're talking about what makes good television and i agree on is what do you think you think that his story is even getting more attention than it normally would because he is a former marine because he's a veteran who served two tours i mean how often do these stories go completely
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unreported you know how often do we see let's say that if there was a black woman killed somewhere or a black woman that killed her daughter cry would be getting the same type of. you know attention and that the case of casey anthony is because she is an attractive white woman. i mean i think there's definitely something to that i mean when shake out of the white upper middle class mayor of the town of maryland was wrongly rated i mean international news pretty much overnight but also i mean when kathryn johnston a ninety two year old grandmother in atlanta was killed in a botched raid that made national news you know pretty quickly but oh no i think you're right i mean there is something about it but the victim in news where it's a different city a young single black male if you will are less ready to believe that you know this is an outrage or that person is innocent even if it were. our brother i want to thank you very much for joining us and filling us in on this story and the details are still slowly coming out although as we know those affidavits the search
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warrants are still sealed and we'll see if we get any transparency in that case that i thank so much thanks for your coverage of this. now it's no secret of the gap between the upper and lower classes is growing as the gap continues to expand and many don't seem to think about statistical facts that why is that wells artie's christine fair is our ports most people in the upper and lower classes aren't even aware of where they stand. you could say it's a typical afternoon the sun is shining and people are out shopping across town the same thing only here those who live in the area describe it like this it's one of the two or three neighborhoods in washington that really still functions as a village it's like a village in washington i think it's paradise actually. paradise not a word you'd likely hear spoken about this part of town. so. good
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guess what we're. both a few miles and worlds away there are instead of other ways of describing life so. greedy yes what we do we live in just the organ a less musical version like this. what we found to be surprising was when we asked people what class they see themselves and we got very similar answers both here in this neighborhood in southeast washington d.c. for the median income is twenty nine thousand dollars and housing looks like this. and here in this neighborhood georgetown in northwest washington d.c. the houses look like this and the median income is nearly one hundred forty. thousand dollars a year and you people that are better than the middle class were around this area i think there are a lot of them yeah the i.r.s. and our current president might think we're filthy rich but you know i don't think
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we're i absolutely consider myself a little less absolutely do you think this is a lower class neighborhood upper class neighborhood or middle class neighborhood this is a mental class neighborhood to me right in the middle economist like gary burtless isn't surprised i can tell you what people thought up to about five years ago i think over eighty five percent of americans thought they were in the middle class a recent study found that americans believe the richest twenty percent only hold about fifty nine percent of the wealth the actual number eighty four percent but ideally they said the breakdown should be much more equal though clearly it's not america was a country that sort of stood stayed together historically with great unity on the glue that we all figured if we work hard be played by the rules we do better than our parents and they would do better than their parents and our kids would do better than us economists say that is no longer the case in the united states and that we've gone from being one of the most openly mobile countries in the
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developing world to the least a trend that change course in the one nine hundred seventy s. perhaps one reason can be seen here take a look at this the blue line shows how much the pay of c.e.o.'s has gone up since the ninety's that yellow line at the bottom well that's the pay of minimum wage workers and it has gone down nobel prize winning economist joseph stiglitz says the increase in concentration of wealth has been enormous would happen in the last couple decades is twenty almost a quarter of all the income goes to the upper one percent. forty percent depending how you measure it. percent it's a reality that doesn't seem to trickle down to those in the lower tier in terms of class i think everybody with the economic situation that we're in is probably all in the class nobody is above and nobody's below in washington christine for sound r
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t. the studies which show that americans are largely clueless about the true disparities of wealth in this country so when we say that mean it ignorance is bliss or has the full the fact of a shrinking middle class and underemployed population college graduates with no career opportunities that of that was america going to look like twenty thirty years from now if these trends continue to discuss this with me and said to monny reporter and blogger for think progress dot org and a progress report that thanks so much for joining us tonight now we talk about income inequality we look at see plays that rise and if we really talk about the larger wealth gap in america when you talk about a person's wealth it's not just income what else factors into that. their number of other things you have to factor into your calculations i mean one is sort of the essence of your home i mean a lot of people are out of their homes and their mortgages underwater right now a lot of people are in debt you know the average student this country now graduate with something like twenty thousand dollars in debt and that debt actually counts towards their assets so what you're talking about is you know
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a huge number of americans who every year actually have you know i negative net worth you know at the same time where a lot of rich people actually have most of their money not necessarily and their income but rather in their savings in different investments you know in ten years or a financial schemes that is tremendous and really what you get even more casts catastrophic situation we start factoring those things in because honestly right now we don't really tax your wealth there's plenty of ways to hide your wealth but there isn't you know as many ways. so what does that mean that we're actually has negative wealth. what it means is you're actually more money than you can say that you have to your name you know for example if you're behind on your payments or you have tens of thousands of dollars of student debt or you're behind on your car loans or various other sorts of debt or medical debt i mean there's a million families every year people know there's a million families every year who declare bankruptcy because they can't afford their medical bills and about three fourths of those are people with insurance or people who work hard who are who had jobs or had injuries which just wasn't
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adequate enough to actually take care of their medical problems but his thing is i think a lot of americans probably won't look at it that way right they think oh credit card that everybody has credit card debt student loan debt everybody has student loan debt this year and they don't think that it's a big deal but you know in comparison like we said to you the most of the richest americans there is a huge huge difference there is how can we just don't know it but i think one thing that we've seen the last thirty five years that we as we've had more right wing policies in our government you know in our politics is sort of what we've been and undated with this sort of better it has a lot of ruins middle class you know it's really galatea rhetoric but it's not talking about egalitarianism to ation and i think one of the most harmful effects of that is that people aren't thinking about class they're not seriously thinking about you know how am i doing in relation to the guy up there and in my really any way fair share for how hard i work because you know productivity is contained you go up every year in this country and so is the economic growth but real wages which is sort of the way it is accounted for after inflation for most americans it
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actually flatlined for about thirty years so really most of us aren't getting ahead like we should be and i guess you could think about you certain things that would make you have the perception that you are just like everyone else i can have an i phone i can i have an i pad if mark zuckerberg has an i phone i pad then he and i must in some way equal right i mean to all of these easy go get you know technologies that you can easily purchase that's a best buy kind of try to blur the lines there and i think that's absolutely true i mean back home we are slightly more class conscious idea i think one of the major ways that we sort of measure people's collective wealth with a look at their leisure and so he. and a lot of land had big families doing huge houses i mean we knew they were the rich people and we knew that those of us you know living in small flies working in the factory were the guys doing the short shrift i mean now it's very easy to hide it because everyone says well you know you have the internet you have a high definition television you know you're fine you're getting a big piece of the pie but i was sure that actually people are working harder but not getting more money so now we have these republican politics that are coming in telling us that we're all middle class we can all get along but if you look at
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recent studies specially ones that came out this year and people look at a chart and when it comes to wealth disparity using countries and income equality then no they pick sweden because that one looks really really fun but do you think that americans would be willing to actually pay higher taxes to to really live a life well i think this is how it is with americans i think americans you want progressive goals they would you want to more fair and just society along with people who work hard every ward or i mean i think a lot of the ways to get there are often demonized you know in popular culture by you know right wing politicians and i hope that people can see through that i mean a lot of people don't know this but biologically and your logically the way the human brain looks at things that are unfair in the same way that you respond right and me you know human beings are hard wired towards fears that people know the situation is not fair which is that we have to start organizing and sort of you know agitating for the way that will get us there you know one way by the way would be to expand union membership immediate membership in the sort of middle of the century where the incoming inequality was the lowest was about one in every three
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americans was that it was a you know it's less than ten percent but do you think we should rub it in people's faces or is ignorance listen you know what i mean because you think twenty thirty years down the line what's america going to look like are you going to have to start telling kids look son your life is going to be as nice as it was growing up well look i think it's great to tell a good story about america but i think the best way to tell us stories of this true . all right i guess that's all that we have to say about that right i mean i think that a lot of kids are going to have a bit of a wake up call especially seeing that with the generation that's graduating from school right now hopefully you know that maybe a few years down the line it will stabilize a little bit that thanks so much for joining us thank you. our were taking a break well still to come on tonight's show they call the plan to replace medicare right wing social engineering now that candidate for president is begging for money to help scrap medicare we'll have more on that in our school times like in this evening and that was is everyone cut out for college do you really need a four year degree to be successful in life after that.
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given that we are in the hard work. i think. well. we're going to go over the shows that are safe get ready because of the freedom.

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