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hello yellow welcome to spotlight the info you shall have on our team i'm ready to play my guest on the show is more shit. president obama called on israel to roll back to the heart central borders and start peace talks with the palestinians but this offer infuriates in the jewish state tel of the of is their guiding its territorial gains and blaming other regimes for the instability in the region so what's israel's long term policy here's the israeli vice prime minister moshe ya'alon the. israeli policy towards the palestinians has long been criticized in the world as inhumane but the country's politicians seem determined to stick to the tough line they've taken before coming to moscow vice prime minister of israel

moshe ya'alon says he didn't see any use for a peace agreement with the palestinians it blames the palestinian authority for not being responsible enough and he did there will be no peaceful solution or an end to violence so. thank you very much for being with us in the studio thank you for inviting me i. well first question is about your visit to moscow some say that this is really deliberation that's in moscow now this visit is sort of a response to the visit of a joint palestinian delegation that we can so go is that true no not at all. visited been scheduled long ago as. we celebrate you to simply enjoy those early twenty's and. ensure between now russia and. we

have many interests in common and i'm here to discuss this interest especially just not to yuko you know well unfortunately this twentieth anniversary of relations was marked by. the. expelling of israel's military pressure from moscow he was accused of our best and we will have any consequences on russia's relations as it already having some cause and no consequences not we have the open channel to discuss what was exactly zero as a case. there was a relationship i've been harmed as a result of it because all. ok another question that i think. is and will be discussed here in moscow is the claims by israel that russian weapons are trickling to gas and being used by those who launch

rockets at israel russia says there is not enough evidence that a russian produced missiles could be used by the militants will you continue discussing the subject and have you brought any any any proof to try to prove your point. to discuss and for sure. israeli bus. was targeted by hamas. still wish he was in because the cornet i'm tree trunk i do work on russian made. so. we discuss it in their work because you secure wooden china was russian government and i believe this nation will be circled as the world is awash with weapons of all neighboring countries like syria and iran but we believe that passion doesn't say we know this kind of weapons and the little hizbullah go to hamas or other talk and usually rick let me be claims.

that the problem. we believe that syria is an example of these weapons was the tell all their we stray organization is and you will of course we are not ready to accept it but you are not only you but everybody in the world is accepting that terrorists around the world are using kalashnikov machine guns i mean says so so what's the use trying to teach it to. make kalashnikov acceptable and other types of russian military equipment and example if russia isn't selling them well me directly to terrorism in we might say that kalashnikov is not acceptable of the world but you know you can't control you can anymore when it comes to on time guy do weapons or early fans. or more kits or besides an r.v. orcutt's it's not kalashnikov which are thousands of them are spread all over the

world to keep killing people we should control all we the civilized parties into we should control all the weapons flow otherwise each of us might be harmed russian airliner might be targeted by it always to buy russian made defense. and this is a case even there though so kill of it isn't excusing rushed. providing no new weapons thirty two militant sensors it's accusing russia of having not enough control over its own weapons is that the point we go to accuse our show not accusing but we one thing no more content will cost the russian government to his original contours or should something it and to know and to know. when russia weapons to syria or iran then you'll see is not there so i mean believes as i go mentors will they consider sending weapons to these or

countries is russia is russia accepting except in this case to discuss this it is probably your nose or some government consul. says here s c hardly it's. weapons deal of defense system to provide to talk to you army has been cancelled by the russian government you've really got over it you push it very much and we thanks very much for you know russian government so we have to open generous to discuss such issues speaking about iran and i'm not mistaken these really really government considers iran a potential enemy number one well i think that this issue is discussed with the russian opposite numbers with russian diplomats and politicians what do you expect from russia in respect of your relations with iran we believe as you run into the gym but i'm not talking about going around people religiously on energy and if you

really think tel aviv mean the city leading his government as we don't consider the iranians and the enemy are for you but the analogy of course to wipe israel off the map of the else. you can't ignore it because you have a g.m. actually has become to be the main generate or instigate of instability in the middle east you can find it i don't figure preaching in a negative manner. in any conflict in the region enough going to. lebannon in the palace and over you know in the holiday inn in yemen by providing weapons and money tool because the slimmest two challenges the urgent so it can't be going oh so you run energy claims for hedging mourning in the middle east and you cannot restaurants chill and the state of islam is a challenge for the civilized they would i would say and in this regard we call all our allies to include us. to put the pressure on the surging first of all to stop

before captivities like providing orkut still hizbullah and hamas arming shias and sunnis in iraq. and so forth and so forth and not talking about stopping the military no cloak water and really to the nuclear i know we would be a nightmare of not just those little things but for any civilised society. noncommercial a gene calling to impose that because saddam fester for you know it in and then all over the world it is a masonic apocalyptically dream we should deal with it so we have the opportunity to discuss it and to call our will a school pressure can i be a political person economic person. described question which would put on the subject you consider russia to be one of your lines yes. now let's talk about relations with hamas you have been crystal saying moscow you call your ally for its relations and contacts with commands but the the

a policy of isolation of hamas has proved to be counterproductive ventured with. you know even among friends there are differences it is very clear now that the difference obviously as you. say u.s. administration and the communities i will be so busy rich recent it's not suddenly where we show it in the last two years we have differences we although we share the same interests as we believe talking about us or fighting to always in dealing with radical islam economic interests and so forth we might have differences is us leave god yes we argue was a hamas is still organization is a radical islamist movement calling actually for the destruction of the state of his own can't be tolerated by anyone no we don't you know we

don't control anymore the gaza strip and it had become as a result of the hysterical a situation to be the second islam in canteens allegiance the first is in iran and the second is they got to stay calm started by hamas and i believe that all syria like out of the world should follow as a quote it quite curious which is russia is a member of the quartet thomas should be known still or should work overnight is were thought to exist and of course to be committed to all the former agreements between the people which is not the case so we called to isolate hamas political speaking about recognizing israel's right to exist well facts are has recognized israel but as we see didn't get much in exchange i mean political and that made hamas even a less willing to to even discuss this issue don't you think that that here we see

one of the i would say rare but mistakes obvious really foreign policy. you know it's very important question. hamas and fatah. both of them are not ready to work organize these aside to exist as a nation state of the jewish people even while the bus and according to all slow. signed by author they recognize easily this is a fact but they say we have to resist it by all means we're having our weekly world mccollough which means to resist the zionist entity the state of israel and even what about us he's not going to work again eyes he's like is the jewish state he said to listen to me as a response to our prime minister's speech he's not thirty two to say that any truly tauriel compromise which is talk no based on what is called the sixty seven line might be considered as the end of both even find out the of claims as they have claims all to haifa tel aviv's they call each morning us so we don't have the

ground we go to discuss it with fatah and all of course to discuss it with hamas what we ask and talking about the political options first of all and then for mahmoud abbas and good people that would not be those allowed to exist as a jewish state in any final settlement and to consider it is the end of conflict and finality of claims this is not the case for far so we are stuck in the political process says moshe ya'alon the israeli vice prime minister spotlight will be back after we take a short break we'll continue this interview in less time in the middle so stay with us dildo.

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back to spotlight i'm older now than just to remind the american guest in the studio today is the bush ya'alon the israeli vice prime minister. let's talk about american proposals the recent the recent initiatives coming from washington selling concerning the settlements which is pretty controversial already mentioned the the new state of relations between and tel aviv and washington is really was furious about barack obama's suggestion that that the palestine borders should be considered in the borders of nine hundred sixty seven well. do you accept

a two state solution in principle or first of all do like the principle instance or our policy is very clear for us we don't want to govern the palestinians now according to or slow we thought about having two states for two peoples and the whole of the us rejected to say even two peoples as he denies the existence of the jewish people you claim to judaism being a religion and see the initial and all people who would so why should a religion have a state and this is a problem so when the president obama opposing initiative we are furious because he put first of all the issue of territories when we have to negotiate territories as a palestinian had just to get and not to give anything and this is a case is also what good is it's got form the palestinians and it's the last twenty years. as a response for giving in the territory instead of land for peace we got planned for

to long with more than one thousand casualties and walk it's more thousand of them so this is occasional and now to. oppose them and we trust a full release gusto italy we are not ready to make it we would like to hear what i mentioned earlier our ease of muslim who got us the post your leader is ready to work all night is allowed to go to the jewish state yes or no he said never so what are we talking about and if anything at all a compliment in my eyes again only good lines will be considered as the end of conflict the finale of claims said no we have that if you just issue to the end of the days it's not the end of claims this described before those is not acceptable you said you said that the palestinians according to a balanced plan will be only gaining in not giving but if it will be a policy of outsmarting territories when any change there would be ready to please consider there. was considered a long. the giving and getting. it's not giving and getting swap is giving. the end

they get. a form with the west bank or form the state of is or they just get they don't give anything this is a case for about twenty years or seventeen years since it since also and we have to explain to us that i read most of it and it can be a good fit in annapolis failed in all the cases where it was ready to go to the two states for two peoples the solution which will and which borders would you would you consider an independent person instincts i'm not ready to negotiate it now i have to negotiate with the palestinians but prime minister netanyahu in his speech said we would be very generous and of course the sixty seven lines you know is not are not defensible borders this is our experience in sixty seven this is ok and as we believe will tell you it was a palestinian after awful any purgatory in which killed the loser to the

palestinians had become to be you do it all and just on the side bonus launches orcus launches so we have to take it in account we can't ignore it so we have to consider everything but it should and should be plea for war and not just to get the palestinians to it we said it was but netanyahu is trip to washington and his negotiations were unquestionably a failure but the question is was it a failure of israeli policy of american policy or of palestinian hopes what would you say. i don't think that it was a failure to do things or know so well actually move the process and leaders i believe that it was and moment of clarity we claim that the israeli palestinian conflict he's long innately in the international arena to include among our allies but to many misconceptions what a conflict is a is about those who claim good year. israeli palestinian conflict is

a call for instability in the middle east it is nonsense how many conflict as oh isn't she a sunni we are not involved in a question of what we are we don't take part in eight sixty million violence in our countries we are non-zero it is not because of our even the op izing now in the of countries it's not because of islam so we unite and we have to compete billy cleanly and fourth of all alice and go to believe that the conflict started in sixty seven and it's again it's a lie so reject the obsolete gippi the idea of the jewish state you can be for the creation of the story you state you can start in sixty seven and so i'm going to be added in the lines of sixty seven so this kind of misconception was the opportunity for a family stone upon you know to clarify it was a moment of clarity we believe in the speech and i believe it will be confident and it's unquestionably smooth and a little that the effects of

a bad speech on the borders that it's it's very clear as a three we have disputes we obama's administration the white house but again we we see both that we shouldn't delude ourselves we should speak frankly and i believe that that was one of the achievements of prime minister's visit to washington to put it very clearly just you know that you mentioned the regimes and the unrest in the region in the middle east israel reaction to revolutions to teacher popular uprising was was pretty cautious why because because it's easier for you to deal with dictators or because you don't believe in democracy in the arab world as it is there are some very good question we would like to see democracy allows. we would like to see democracy so on us we believe that if we will have more democracy assad and. the only one in this region which. it would

be a better future for them against having said that we identify as a positive elements in the our society and those who have been exposed in the last couple of fields to the civilized ideas like freedom human allied so human lives and so forth. but they are not the dominating power in any conflict they initiated alkalizing in egypt about the domain name can political power is muslim brotherhood again logical islam islam and so we will use the this. revolution will be exploited by article elements and it's become my theory and bring about instead of our spring why bring about them so we have to do is it's very clear for me we believe that the our society is on more like for democracy and local see doesn't start by elections as many western parties believe

we don't believe in it and should start by education and education it's a long process and i think generation so we have to look at these very carefully cautiously as you mention and to try to approach those moderate pragmatic element of our job and if we explain least well it's not going to be a struggle i think you're asian in the middle east anyhow and you have to follow it as we live in this neighborhood you seem to understand more about the genesis of democracy then people washington because for them it was it was a very long time ago i was here i think years ago this was one of was a dispute with the form of many stations they talked about democratization of the body actions they allowed hamas to participate in the political course in the palestinian i mean a hamas one is elections in imposed immediately non-democratic a dream islamist and. this is

a case where the israel's reaction if the state of palestine will be recognized and what may become the a member of the united nations how would you react to the evidence or or where or are you not commenting about you know being of course. we claim and we have to warn our friends at any unit all appalled in the palestinian in these early part of conflict is going to be very dangerous for western interests or secular good interests killing why because if the palestinians. have the option not only go shoot a final settlement they would prefer it what will come out of it we believe the second hamastan in the west bank i failed an australian thirty three result it's not going to serve me go easily into worst no jordanian not even american or european or russian interest as we believe to have another hama stand in in

the west bank so we reject we strongly object to the idea of for bringing this issue to the united nations security council whatever and to approve it. seventy percent of the palestinians according to the latest polls i believe strongly believe that that there will be a new intifada if the deadlock in negotiations continues what will be israel's reaction to first of all did you agree that this possibility exists and what may be your reaction. we should be ready for any development but this is the best and the most reflection for to be claim you know i sailed as a don't get intelligence on the late mr been because force and i claim king from in front of people i'm used to have been in some in ninety five in typical forceful. the other factor that time given clip is people for conciliation coexistence with the state of france and contrary prepare them for jihad and he shot i didn't know

if i opened the palestinian textbooks we do occasional quick little watching zille media and the educated young generation to hate us and to tell us you see all these kids were explosive bits to kill whom then to people on their maps and i'm not talking about three year olds can't yes how educated to well explosive belts and tube my only side bonus is all moderates the she's a case for peace i don't solve problems there will be likely to any new on the facilities islam should be ready and it will be different it's thank you thank you very much for the religious and just a reminder that that's my guest today was moshe ya'alon beat israeli vice prime minister thanks that's it for now from all of us here if you want to have your say on spotlight we have someone in mind to get think i shouldn't say the next time you talk eliza calgary not. our year but let's keep the show answer x.

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