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sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like sleep you think you understand it and then he glimpse something else and hears you some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't. charge welcome to the big picture. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right here. i think iraq made a funny well. we never got says never keep him safe get ready for the freedom.
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for. food. for. our deciphers might still time award him tonight a goes to the maryland transit administration apparently laser range train their police officers whose job it is to protect the transit system say earlier this week in baltimore a man was taking pictures. in videos of the light rail transit christopher fossil
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was then approached by three officers and luckily he left his camera rolling take a listen to my understanding yes i am free to take pictures. now for yourself. or no you. know steve you know that was a big thing for the state of here because he believed to be m.p.'s so taking pictures of trains without authorization is illegal in maryland but obviously those officers were wrong but how could trained a law enforcement officer get the facts all mixed up was the improperly trained or did he just want to harass somebody and fossil look like an easy target take a listen as an officer tells the man why taking pictures and videos of trains is a crime to listen to what i'm saying. he truly says that the police are still finding still crazy for almost things require my arm.
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you know should always try to take pictures but use it for personal use it without issue still. so why don't you have a new crime posted three days i cannot hear you. so the officer actually claims that the patriot act makes it illegal for anyone to take pictures of trains at airports but if that's the case police would have to arrest nearly every single tourist in new york or washington d.c. everybody takes pictures on the subway in the metro system a lot of tourists who visit cities with transit systems kind of picture on the subway let's go back to the maryland case chris for a fossil was detained for nearly forty minutes then he was eventually released and after the fact that m.t.a. apologized a.c.l.u. says that this in fact is the first time m.t.v. has violated someone's rights in that matter they claim that they've been working with the state agency on training these officers for over five years ago looks a bit more training is definitely needed but it's kind of a wonder where these officers learned taking pictures by live the patriot act maybe
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just maybe they're fans of former n.f.l. quarterback john elway you witnessed any suspicious activity you should report there but the information of those. surveillance. planning terrorist often survey teams will target to determine its strengths and weaknesses this main clue determining how well the target is protected i get to find what type of security measures are place and gaijin emergency response times by local police that was part of a training video that colorado officials released to help educate the public about terrorism john elway narrating it we had a few good laughs about that on the show when it first came out so maybe the maryland transit officers simply chose take their cues from a clueless jock rather than pay any attention to the quote five years of training that they've received either way the three maryland transit administration officers are tonight's told time winners for harassing an innocent man and making the entire department look stupid for not actually knowing the law that they're hired to
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enforce. now ladies and gentlemen i think the world has gone mad but actually i'm hoping it's not the entire world but whatever the disease is seems to have infected our mainstream media they have wiener fever. as we've stated the f.b.i. should be involved in the wiener story but they will not confirm anything to us that's wrong because national security is involved it's clear from the wiki leaks controversy that some very bad people of compromise u.s. national security by hacking into government websites when i heard the congressman talk about his playfulness on twitter and his feistiness on twitter that may be good but sometimes it might not be what you think of all this i mean should the congressman continue talking about this or should he move on that he did all these interviews you know we were we were real so i don't understand will you tell me in your own words what has happened here. well i don't know for sure it seems like what happened was someone somehow got access to my twitter account and tweeted
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a joke i guess you know when your name is winner you get some of those sometimes the longer you look at the picture especially the pixellated version the more you begin to understand why congressman weiner might not want to deny but that is a picture of him in fact the longer i look at it the more i don't want to deny that it might be a picture of me. that's right if you tried to get some real news from any of the mainstream media channels last night you were out of luck and instead you had to be subjected to non stop wiener gate so what happened to our media culture and who the hell is really watching us here discuss this with me is nicholas the editor in chief of reason dot reason t.v. and reason dot com nick thanks so much for being here but you. just i can you explain to me what's going on i wouldn't even be covering this honestly because i think it's so stupid i was so taken aback last night when i was flipping through
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every single channel and all i saw was when are we in are we in are we are sometimes we all have days like that especially during puberty but you know part of it it's a slow news cycle right we've only got three wars and counting who knows. secret wars were involved and we've got a debt ceiling crisis we've got an entitlement crisis we haven't had a budget for over a year and a half and probably won't have another one for two thousand and twelve so you know what are you going to talk about i do think though that this story which the new york post today called the battle of the poultry which is kind of clever you know this is the type of sniping poll that fascinates people and it's you know it's somewhat lurd but i also i kind of like what h.l. mencken called the great. america so i mean you know this is a fun story and i think the real reason why people follow it is because it gives it we think it gives us an insight into the prerogatives of power in the abuse of power not to not even the abuse of power but something weird about power that it
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turns people into free and weird and i wouldn't even say it as a thing without we are about power quite honestly i found it really boring and you know if you look at all of you know interviews that congressman weiner is out there doing they're all boring he's given the same runaround every time i asked him is it you know have you ever taken a personal photo he couldn't even answer that he said well maybe it's been doctored you would know taking a personal photo of your job and you know what i mean this is where i don't think i was born where he talked about how he couldn't say with certitude you know that's putting into a new you know another phrase like refute or whatever you see people when they're flustered they reach for a kind of shakespearean english or something to say the obvious which is that he was going to answer anything there was an interview he did with a press conference with the dana bash of c.n.n. i asked him well is it your words and he refused to answer and that became somewhat interesting and again it's less about the specifics of this case but when you have a politician who is you know who trades on being transparent he's tech savvy he's
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out there in social media and then when it comes back to bite him on the ass he can't just say hey you know what this isn't mine it was hacked and that's problematic and we're going to investigate he starts that and he he says he and so on traverse yeah but you know i just wonder do you thing. people like rachel maddow people like lawrence o'donnell everyone on fox news that was covering this nonstop yesterday do you think that they really care about the story is that what they want to be talking about or is it some executive sitting in a room saying we got to run with this yeah it's tough to say i mean you know when you look at the entire donald trump you know the kind of opera that he was doing as a presidential run i mean i found that disturbing you know because it went on and on and on for so long it was somebody who clearly wasn't going to run who's a master showman and charlatan seem to be that sucked a lot of energy out of you know what is that was a more serious question which is who who's going to be the nominee for the president of the united so a presidential race in two thousand and twelve something like this is you know it's
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a side show for sure but at least i find this one more entertaining than a lot of the drivel that the media continues to cover and think it's really important i don't know i find this one a little demeaning for the media personally i can tell you but i have it on my show yesterday or the last week we've been talking about patriot act we're talking about the war in libya war powers and we're talking about the economy and we're talking about housing prices and yet here they are talking about this and i want to play a clip actually. every time maddow who i normally do i like her a lot and then this is where it really off slight downhill for me because you haven't answered a question about whether the photo is you or not you realize that now everybody thinks the photo is you and so where there's smoke there's fire there must be a real scandal here you must be doing something creepy here. let me ask you whether or not you want to answer that question and then let me ask what the answer to it is. let me ask you. about
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a choice that it's my show if you want to answer the question that i'm about to pose to you and that i was on to discuss that limiter of the patriot act which is terrible in terms of civil liberties i mean here what i would what i would argue is i don't disagree with you that this is a this is. joe your story more amused by we're ok i was going to say this is not just a joke story because of the size of the package but because it does it takes us away from arguably more important things but what i would argue is that we actually have more access we have we've we've been having more discussion about the patriot act now that we didn't during its first reauthorization and its original passage the news universe has continued to proliferate and you can get more substantive news channels like amistad b c which is chasing after fox and c.n.n. and they you know they traded in their hard news trucks a long time ago fox's you know always ready to go with the salacious story especially if it's going to the democrats everything is a national security risk that will reilly's read that wiener gate is
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a national security risk and the f.b.i. needs to somehow you know i do think it's possible if we enter a story is true that his twitter account was hacked and he actually tweeted earlier when the evening that this all took place he said that my facebook account a bit hacked that is serious because if you have the accounts of elected officials who speak with great authority and oftentimes for the republic you know somebody should be checking into that and that's you know that's that's part of the reason why i think it's really a way to live an excuse is you know every politician it doesn't. and i'm. going to start putting it what it what i was going to say though is that there are more sources of more discussion of substantive issues going on and what's but that's really what has changed in the media said it was a house i want to hear you saying the fact that the issue here early on. and there's been a lot of discussion there's been a lot of discussion i may try to act on my show it's good you know you know about the patriot act until romney or rather he made a mistake and they forgot about it as well but they also voted fox business
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actually is covered a lot. to do and it's not always the primetime shows and things like that also online in various newspapers and magazines so this is you know what i'm saying again it's not to say ok you know we should have wiener gate all the time you know . twenty four seven but the fact is that these kinds of silly stories have always been with us you know. i guess it was. farcical running out of time but the silly stories are always there but unfortunately they get more coverage than the war stories thanks. our it's time for show and tell on tonight's program and last time we spoke about my interview with the man who is famous for leaking the pentagon papers daniel ellsberg now despite the fact that ellsberg was called a traitor at that point that is later he's considered a national hero when comparing him to bradley manning we asked if twenty years from now we'll be calling manning
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a hero let's get some responses from our viewers from producer richardson assent to . events surrounding bradley manning in the documents he's suspected of leaking cannot be ignored by history it's become a complicated mix of national security morality personal tragedy and human freedom and a national and global scale when it's over and it's far from being over just yet how do you think history will look back a man exactions believe be remembered as a hero a traitor or a victim and facebook beyond believe he's already a hero bill martin told us being a soldier you give up certain rights when you raise your right hand and take your oath of service and making secret documents is not whistleblowing it's treason on you tube varian said bradley manning will be forgotten as an individual perhaps a troop maybe we will take a larger type in history books on twitter open mind concluded i hope manning will be remembered as a hero because it means we have over him that complacency with what's really been going on might take for anyone to reveal secret documents of the u.s.
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takes courage my courage may not be enough to be called a hero it's the result their actions have on history itself that will determine how they will be remembered and as for bradley manning the world will be healing and debating the results of what has been done for many years to come. as always we thank you for your responses and here's our next topic for you it was just reported that sony has been hacked yet again this time by the group the same people who gained access to p.b.s. earlier this week but the. target sony pictures entertainment which is a different division of the mega electronics company over little sykes still managed to obtain over eight million passwords that were of course on encrypted so now that it's public knowledge that sony really sucks at protecting consumer privacy could this be the company's a fatal flaw tell us what you think is this the end of sony as we know it you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows your response just might make it on air. still to come on tonight's show i respond to
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a critic upset that i was asked to blog on a website of a frequent guest on my show stick around for that and then stay with us for happy hour the chevy crybaby over at fox news glen fact have another problem with my channel and sarah palin's vacation bus got vandalized over about was on. the we. were. told. we doesn't feel. safe to read. the freedom.
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hey guys welcome to show and tell on the alone a show we've heard are just tough to say on the topic now i want to hear our audience just go on to you tube video response or to twitter for part of the question simply post on you tube every monday and on thursday the show long response is. your book. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so. you think you understand it and then you give them
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something else here's the part of it and realize everything you thought you know i'm sorry. so i'd like to take a little bit of time out to respond to a blogger out there michael who i'm seeing michael got a pen and he's going to budge when he saw that i guess a blog at the agitator a few weeks ago now for those of you who may not know the agitator is a blog run by one of our frequent guests radley balko where he would take two or three detail the problems of the country's drug war the resulting police brutality the incarceration rate the rampant corruption in the courts and the crime labs and bradley was kind enough to invite me to guest blog while he was away as anybody who watches our show regularly will know these are topics that i care about but
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according to michael it really rankles it because of where i work r t how dare i have a say in what goes on in my own country and how my country where i was raised where i was educated where i work where i pay taxes where i vote and i like to think contribute to the media culture the good old us of a and you know i always find these arguments so musing from the so-called purists like this blogger because you know what should or. angle you michael if you do in fact think the police brutality the wholesale trampling of civil rights in america is reaching scary levels as you wrote in your post but how about the fact that the american mainstream press doesn't report on any of that sure you'll hear a lot of story every now and then i suppose that isolated incident but where is the same coverage that we see i don't know about protests in the middle east north africa or i would see that when americans are protesting against the wars of their government is rather than in to spend their tax dollars on an allotment for protesting that no is the questioning why the media regurgitates rather than
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questions everything the government has to say the government and of course the corporate overlords own our media that will be a little bit too much the fact that my channel is one of the only venues where any of that can be discussed that's what should worry you not that someone dear allow me to write on their blog so your shallow critique is one i don't much care for. ok it's time for happy hour on the thursday evening and joining me tonight is r t producer jenny church on and make less be either in chief of reason t.v. and reason dot com thanks for joining me guys all right so i just finished one rant about someone whose critique i really don't much care for and let me go on to the next line this ones you know one of my favorites if you guys watch the show then you would know it's mr glenn beck and glenn bag box news they've always
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taken a really big issue with the fact that bill ayers was interviewed here on r t bill ayers formerly of the weather underground and now we recently interviewed his wife bernie duran and this really really didn't sit well with glenn beck either but this is my favorite response as to one of the reasons why i didn't sit well with him take a listen. there's new video i'm sorry that's not it there's new video that we will post it glenn beck dot com that is from russia today from last week where she's very very clear and a russian journalist asking or all kinds of questions in english and it's all about the oppression i don't know about you but i get all warm and fuzzy inside listening to her and people like her and she is influencing the arab spring. can you believe that our russian journalists questions in english lord what is this
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world coming up you know. like the cold war never ended you know i actually like glenn beck i think that he's interested in faith right now and i doubt even going to. return to drink now but i i like him because i think he's a genuinely interesting media figure and he saw so i mean he's an autodidact and one of the reasons why i think people like watching him is because he's teaching himself and he makes a lot of mistakes and a lot of silly statements i don't understand this thing is that he acts like he's teaching that people therefore listen as if he's a real teacher well i and i you know i don't understand his take on arab spring but it is one of the most odious characters in american race in american history worth interviewing for sure that's the whole point of that right you know this is my question what is one that more afraid of the fact that archie is putting her on air and the fact that there might be people in america watching that sympathize with her i'm not saying i do you think that's what you find spreading and people say the same thing about who is be talking when he's out there saying look chris things on
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air and then saying well you can't let people who say ridiculous things on the air that's just not ok i don't disagree with you i think that's a pretty savvy take and then you know it's more that the more the merrier so whatever you know i mean it's one of the best things that he can do for or to your four hundred one or whoever to scorn them publicly because i guarantee you that that clip that should up on his website pretty well for you guys. as we said you know so in a strange way i think he knows very much what he's doing i will take it it's a good thing that i get to talk more you know i love to talk let's talk a little crab so it works for me but i do find it interesting as to who may be acceptable you know i'm sure glenn back wasn't saying anything when we were having the muslim radicalization hearings and he was thinking back to the ira you know king's time is to die already that wasn't a big deal just by the hypocrisy of using let's move on to something that this is actually really sad and i think you probably will have some interesting things to say about this next but in alameda california firefighters had to let
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a person drown because they say that from the budget cuts that took their department last year they didn't have the proper certification or the proper gear to get into the water and here's a news clip talking to some of them were trained to go into the water oh she tried to cure that we have on we don't have it you'll have thought that you would use to go into the water if you saw a child drowning more than seventy five feet offshore would you go in and rescue the child or not but if i was off duty you know what i would do to your your i think you're asking me my own duty response and i would have to stay within our whole season procedures because that's what's required by the department to do and how sad is that is that he if he was off duty he would be a good samaritan he'd go any rescue woman who's drowning because he was on duty because he had the liability of getting sued if he goes in without a proper certification that he has to let someone die before you go really fast or
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slow and say he's these people are human before they are a firefighter and i think it's despicable that they stood there and i know you'll have lots to say about taxes and public versus private you know it's these people stood there and watched me and drown and not just the firefighters there were seventy five bystanders who stood there for an hour and a half watching a man drown himself well you know as a former lifeguard believe it or not this body once considered to. like are trying to but you know the first rule of life guarding is a two dead bodies is worse than one dead body so if you don't have the training and if you don't have the support you don't go away and that's harsh but that's reality more to the point though california is dead broke they have a massive incalculable office it because they spend too much money and because they still own a beach house that was on m.t.v. summer you know spring break flaming thing they own racetracks they own all sorts of crap they have head you know it isn't a lack of money it's a lack of prioritizing and that's the real problem there and to to try and say ok
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well now the cops in alameda need more money so they get the certification that is missing the really the people that are the ones that decide where the money is allocated so you know that i mean the people as in the people of california i mean it's the law makers are people in the cities in the city councils they choose what the priorities are what departments need to do and this is what's happening at the police departments that are cut there or not because i guarantee you that there is not a single city in california with the exception of v.a. which went into bankruptcy and cut some of the benefits for new newly hired cops and a couple of cops virtually every city and every fire and police department in california is probably operating with more money and i don't know it's ten years ago this is not about that what it is about is you know wade in places like huntington beach they recently added lifeguards to. super golden parachute pensions and health care and things like that you know a lot i'm going to make them a ton of money that is new i mean in
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a fiscal crisis they got the best deal that they ever got that doesn't make sense to you know it's sad when people die in accidents and things like that but california is a wreck because at every level people have passed that i think you make a good point the sense that california is obviously a wreck and there are seventy five other people standing around they just let somebody drown and watch it well right now are made i think they can now do you don't panic try to help and this is so reminiscent of the man whose house. it was burning down and he let it burn to the ground because he hadn't paid his fire enough during that are you know darya oh yeah that's it you know what i did all the way that you know you don't do that and already there was one reason was simple so far and i have unfortunately you guys are we covered the story that you were thanks so much sarah palin sarah palin's bus got vandalised it was hilarious but time i got there for a night show thanks for joining in make sure you come back tomorrow british rapper akala will be on the show so i ask whether political ground is dying and meantime don't forget become a fan of a lot of show on facebook and follow us on twitter if you missed any of the night's
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