life. video on demand keys and mine as an r.s.s. feeds now in the palm of your. question on the com. welcome to the lower show where we get the real headlines with none of the mersey are going to live in washington d.c. bad news for the latest jobs report bad news for the u.s. economy overall so you have to wonder if it's time for a fundamental structural change and next while the rest of the media talks about the g.o.p. race in new hampshire we're going to tell you how those same contenders are making their way to d.c. to meet with one of the most famous religious leaders we'll give you details on who

he is and why he plays a major role in the presidential campaign then connelly's rice teaming up with chevron to provide welfare and create jobs in poor countries something just doesn't sound quite right about that considering it big oil's track record around the world are she's christine for bring us all the details and i will ask if mainstream music has become completely devoid of politics or is it just the politics of acceptance and conformity rather than resistance we're going to speak to british rapper akala we'll get invited to all that and will serve up our friday edition of happy hour but for now let's move on to our top story. now if you haven't heard yet the u.s. economy is in the toilet not like it's been doing so fabulously well since if you're responsible bankers made the whole thing crash in two thousand and eight but in terms of g.d.p. in terms of employment we were seeing some growth in the last month that all slowed way down the jobs numbers were released today for the month of may and employers only hired fifty four thousand new workers that's the fewest in eight months and if

you want to know how few that is compared to the two hundred twenty thousand new jobs on average they were being gained in the last three months or discouraged workers entered the workforce last month as well but they were turned down so that unemployment number rose from nine to nine point one percent and then they use six which includes. the unemployed the discouraged the marginally attached and the underemployed that's it fifteen point eight percent that's america's real unemployment for you so the questions we keep hearing are how long it's going to take to get back to normal to reach these pre-recession levels to return america to what it once was and maybe what we really need to ask is whether that's even possible or discuss this with me is genuine of a leo associate editor at the atlantic covering business and economics thanks so much for being here tonight as ever obviously this is not good news not like it was all that shocking i think a lot of people saw it coming but you know especially if we think about the fact they had a job growth been maintained that the two hundred twenty thousand jobs that we were

gaining over the last three months people were still saying that it wouldn't be until twenty sixteen that we might reach normal levels now we have fifty four thousand jobs in one month what does that mean can we ever really reach normal levels again or is this going to become normal a lot of good four thousand jobs i mean you know as you saw the unemployment rate ticked up and it will continue to soak up as long as those jobs jobs added stabilize one hundred fifty thousand so you know we need to see something at least in the two hundred range to we swirled out a little bit of a lot of it but that's still not until twenty sixteen or so that's still not a solution necessarily mean that's still five years that americans are going to have unemployment this high so what do you need to do is to really work on that faster if you like congress is really not doing their job here congress is too busy focusing on the debt there's you busy talking about you know the budget cuts need to come along with raising the debt ceiling then coming up with jobs short term one of the budget or political philosophy right i mean some people say congress should do more but you know they should have programs that create jobs or what not other

people say they need to get out of the way they've done too much harm instead of good people say the stimulus was wasteful or didn't create enough jobs back in two thousand and eight when i was so just depends on what do you say i say it's probably a combination of the two i mean i don't think i think that the idea that we need to cut spending and he was probably wrong i think for a long term deficit solution makes sense. for the next couple years ago but certainly doesn't want to share more jobs right now with that said i think that you know less regulation and less constrained regulation of businesses could help a lot of businesses with complain about things like health care or the finance reform bill and that sort of thing so you know there are getting in the way a little bit of a show on it too much though i'm just wondering of course there are there are different political philosophies or different economic philosophies in your way of approaching it but is it a bit of a sham especially from the republican perspective if they are so serious about fiscal responsibility about reducing the deficit then why are you cutting certain social programs things like child's health care programs that help with children's health if you just push that stuff down the line and not only make the deficit even

higher a couple years you know years down the line because you don't take care of their health care issues now and so they only get worse as the kids get older well i mean yes the politics of these things and that's what you're seeing there i mean throughout the stimulus so it was a much it was a good example you saw their democratic priorities right being pushed against you know economic sense in here so to see republican progress being pushed beyond economics and so you know hopefully one day washing will see past their you know partisan beliefs and just try to help the economy and. hopefully we can all hope really that's not that's no that good for americans that's not what they want to hear it on so what does that hope mean that they just have to keep voting for the exact same people and assuming they're not going to do anything for them yeah unless they can find other candidates somehow to follow those sort of partisan events and you really just kind of believe you know smart things like the economy what to do right what do you think are we going to do a double dip this is going to be a recession that lasts a really long time because president obama was actually ohio today at chrysler factory and he was saying you know we're still on our road to recovery we just have

a few bumps in the road but is this really a bump or is this becoming a much much larger whole i think it's too early to tell fortunately i think right now it sure looks bad right i mean this was a terrible april really is what started we started seeing the economic indicators start a point beyond words and that's what really affected a lot of hard here now a lot of this is that gas prices are a lot of the. sure this program supers that sort of writing was the bands that you saw so if those gas prices continue to rise in a lot of trouble however if they start declining or even stay steady we might be ok again it just depends on how things turn out again what do you think the americans have to say when they look at some of the facts when it comes to tax rates because we keep hearing this argument from republicans all the time that they don't want to raise taxes on companies because if you raise taxes on a company they're not going to hire people but then you find out that twelve the largest corporations in this country paid negative taxes and they paid none and they even got money back from you between two thousand and eight and two thousand and ten so at some point i feel like the madness has to stop. and look at the kind

of you know companies that do well in washington as those the small business is really where it should be focused these days big business does pretty well they don't need a whole lot of hope so i guess that's the what a lot of people would say is virtuous office would be complain that they're not paid enough attention to washington now if we were to get america's manufacturing sector back up to maybe it's not what it once was but at least back up to par what do you think that america or what it is what do you think it is that americans could actually create that china would want to buy that the countries the economies that are now starting to grow up that are becoming the consumer economies but what they buy from us that they can get for cheaper that's made at home well i would say a lot of the really high tech electronics i mean america does have many fashion based it's just what it was you know fifty years ago we don't make things like clothes or anymore you know there are things that are a lot cheaper because we're however there's a lot of expertise a lot of knowledge engineering about sort of thing where certain products could still be here it makes a lot of sense for us to produce you know we make a lot of technology that you could say would make a lot of jacks right we make

a lot of airplanes you could say some of the biggest companies in the world. end up buying we make a lot of weapons even say some of the biggest bang or it was some of the biggest defense contractors that are buying but do you think that it's time to start perhaps tailoring our interest to what we think the rest of the world needs right if the u.s. isn't going to be if it's. we're going to be surpassed by china pretty soon as the number one economy in the world they do we start to think does start thinking about what it is they want from us and hopefully companies are you know if you look at something like the green initiatives where you know ford for the g i was making a bolt on that sort of thing this is you know it and it's a patient with demand another country or energy is a big issue everywhere and hopefully yeah because we know that americans definitely aren't demanding smaller or more efficient cars sumrall budget that little bit hasn't been ingrained into our society just yet but it definitely doesn't look like good news and there needs to be some kind of way out of it or maybe there is and it's really hard to tell if it's going to help them so much for joining us thank

you. also to come tonight the one nine hundred ninety s. the christian coalition was a major force in g.o.p. politics passports today where the former director of the group has an event in d.c. that's attracting the big name g.o.p. presidential candidates are all looking for his blessing i'll dive into why everybody wants to kiss a ralph reed's ring in just a moment and then former secretary of state connelly's rice came to d.c. today to talk about global development of events sponsored by a big oil company does that sound a little fishy to you archie is christine for the reports when we come back. into it and we're. going to go to pretty much just to sort out what. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i. would characterize obama as the charismatic version of american exceptionalism.

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for fuck's. sake for the. well it's been a long time coming but looks like congress is finally weighing in on the unofficial nato led war in libya i believe me this attempt is really really lame you see there were two separate votes today one succeeded i'm going to fail and i wonder if you

can take a wild guess as to who are now between dennis kucinich and john boehner you see congressman kucinich wrote a resolution to remove all u.s. troops from libya within fifteen days that vote failed the house hundred forty eight two hundred sixty five after being postponed by boehner earlier this week more spineless politicians they just can't say no to another u.s. war now the week a resolution that one came from john boehner himself and his resolution is directed at the president not to deploy established or maintain ground troops in the country the only stipulation would be if american forces needed to be rescued and that one passed with a whopping sixty eight to one forty five you know it's really funny because the best way to make sure that there are no troops on the ground and make sure that no americans are in harm's way you'd think would be to cancel the whole damn thing to actually go after the president calling out on starting an entire war illegally but no instead republicans chose to just publicly show once again that they don't trust

him or his work because remember obama has said since day one that there will be no boots on the ground so i call that more political posturing than actual leading so thanks a lot congress and the war it just goes on. now where can you find all of the potential g.o.p. presidential candidates in one room and i do mean almost all of them let's just say that this weekend mitt romney tim paul n.t. jon huntsman michele bachmann rick santorum ron paul and herman cain all be here in washington d.c. put it this way they're not here for a presidential debate but i'm here to let every american know where they stand on the issues you know there are metaphorically here to kiss the hand of the king the king of the religious right ralph reed of the faith and freedom conference. who is this man and why do you need his blessing to go to the white house to discuss this with me is i think more essential porter and blogger for talking points not everything so much for being at it for me for starters tell us all about king ralph reed his majesty why it's so important well you've been around for

a long time on the religious right he started out with the christian coalition he was there for a long time a big organizer for them sort of fell off the radar screen for a while was involved little bit made rock scandal sort of tapered his appeal but since then he has started this new group of faith and freedom coalition which is kind of taking the tea party idea and mixing it with the faith old christian coalition idea which is you know sort of grassroots organizing on the ground he's got hundreds of thousands of people that make phone calls and you know people on the internet he was talking today about seventeen million or you know untapped conservatives that he sort of reaching out to so these are voters that everybody is running for president especially the primaries wants to have so you come here you talk to ralph reed maybe you're get a big reset button that we say we talk about the conservative right and we talk about ralph reed and his organization how conservative or he's talking about i mean this is your basics is this your anti-gay marriage or anti abortion or does it go beyond that well it's pretty conservative i think something interesting about this

particular conference today has been a lot of talk about israel and oppression obama's speech about israel is a very conservative line being taken by the candidates and the speakers at his conference about israel and palestine conflict essentially saying that you know palestinians aren't really worth dealing with right now and it's just essentially we should just let it will do what it wants and obama has betrayed them with this talk of sixty seven borders so i think that israel thing if it's been around for a while but it's kind of stepping up as a new a new talking point for today's event it's so bizarre that because you think that i don't know if you're a politician and if you are a presidential one of the then what you want to do is you want to go to a debate and you want to nationally publicly air your views so that the american people actually know where you stand what we think about the first. g.o.p. presidential debate could just have been about a month ago and there were five candidates there five people including outsiders like gary johnson and ron paul and so it's just so amazing what is it about this culture and the political culture especially that something like this an event like

this draws everybody to it but actual debate doesn't really give us the audience that you're talking to i think you come here and you know that that fox debate you're talking about was pretty early on a lot and didn't want to jump in there fast you guys are spending money you got to start sort of shaking stuff up but now they get you to come here now and you can get their message out and just as an example you know jon huntsman came here he has got a lot of have to answer to with their conservative right he's kind of a moderate on issues like gay civil unions which he's for in climate change which he believes in and so he gave a speech tonight are evil evil thing well you talk a lot about abortion and how he didn't or shouldn't you know anti-abortion governor strong record on that and then he came out and they didn't talk to reporters and just left so situation like that you can come and give his message what he wants to say and just kind of get out a ladder there without having to worry about taking any sort of uncomfortable questions you might get in a debate which they are they may get in a couple weeks when they go in debate in new hampshire how powerful do you think this conservative religious right message is because you mean if you look at certain polls recently for the first time ever

a majority of americans actually said that they approve of gay marriage is at some point you think that this some of this ideology has to die out this is very about this is about a question going on right now the tea party being very fiscal these religious right people are still around they think they're very powerful i can say that today there was discussion from tony perkins who's the head of the family research council which does another one of these giant concepts about the religious right later in the year in october he was talking about mitch daniels who was a kind of enemy number one in the problem inside for the religious right because you talk about doing a true story on social issues and sort of putting social issues aside talk about just fiscal issues kind of the pure fiscal tea party message well you know he had to he didn't run for president he stepped down and today tony perkins came out and said well look at this you know it just shows. you can't you know run a campaign credibly without kind of talking about still so i think they're still pretty powerful or at least they think they're still very interesting thing though is maybe you can't run a campaign without doing it but apparently if we look at the way that our lawmakers

are acting right now in terms of what they're debating the entire conversation is surrounding the debt and tackling the debt and putting budget cuts on top of that and so i feel like they're trying to act like fiscal responsibility is the only single thing that they care about just by the fact that maybe they're passing a lot of anti-abortion legislation and cutting funding for these organizations but that's the kind of stuff that they it seems to me at least like they want to be slipping under the rug at least when they talk to the media. i think that here they're pretty proud of that record make it said jon huntsman a very proud of it i'm talking about the conservative side i mean sort of the king of the fiscal conservative side ron paul is speaking at the royal free thing this this weekend so i think that while they may there may be some discussion of friendship away and talk mostly about the stuff which may be more. successful for a general election message right now they are totally comfortable talking about social issues they seem to be very happy with it the crowd seems happy with it so i'm not sure how off the radar that really is and i think this is something that

democrats might jump on top of an opportunity that they might seize to try to i don't know make fun of point out some of the hypocrisy why am i not hearing more about it democrats have said right along actually that they think they can use some of this stuff very a whole bunch in two thousand and twelve steve israel talk after the republicans passed it had a triple c. passed republicans passed a bill about abortion h.r. three that was really pretty stringent abortion regulation and democrats said it was our ticket back even with women voters so we can get independents back that aren't really interested in this perry right wing stuff so i think that that topic and that sort of issue is something democrats are planning on using i think you hear a lot of base never use it well enough because as we know they really suck when it's really easy messages that you can get across in some. they don't know how to hammer it into people's heads so we have at ralph reed any other rings that potential presidential candidates in the g.o.p. need to kiss along their way there well i'll tell you the most interesting person is going to be here this weekend is donald trump he is not running for president or

says he's not but maybe there isn't and he's here and there seems to be a lot of excitement about him showing up so i'm not sure if he's a ring that he kissed would be if we saw sarah palin go and hang out with him up in new york i just the other day so you know what his role is at this conference is an interesting thing to see will he and tonight we'll see what you have to say and we'll see if it circular by the way not going to be at the conference here keep your vacation should have been with us for the family vacation but as a nation bus tour that apparently cost you less money thank you for not having to work with me. now former secretary of state condoleezza rice was in d.c. today speaking at the center for strategic and international studies about global development led by the united states and it wasn't just her presence the left a few people scratching their heads it was also the company who sponsored the event on one of the largest oil companies in the world chevron puts money behind former u.s. leaders is the message of a global development really that believable christine for a cell has the story. it was billed as an initiative to promote the leadership of

the united states to develop economically communities around the world. and featured former secretary of state consul lisa writes partnering with chevron one of the largest oil companies in the world we can help countries to begin to build the infrastructure back can attract and properly use private investment and business development which then produces the jobs for its people while the launch was short on details there were many references to the important role the u.s. had to play in improving welfare around the globe. global welfare may not be something that pops into the minds of citizens around the globe when. they hear the name conda lisa rice more commonly associated with supporting president george w. bush's invasions of afghanistan and iraq you don't want another afghanistan there you don't want the northern border of mexico to look like

a. you don't want yemen to as it's going great for the civil war and become the new somalia or the new afghanistan despite a ten year presence in afghanistan it still has one of the world's highest rates of infant mortality and death in childbirth the people think this is part of a larger campaign on the part of chevron. change my colleague companies can make a difference while companies they say should to support their communities we succeed when we make a difference in people's lives changing people's lives is exactly what they did in this community in ecuador millions of gallons of toxic waste water spilled by texaco at a court ruled contributed to the deaths of fourteen hundred people texaco was later bought by chevron a judge in ecuador ordered chevron to pay nearly nine billion dollars in fines and order they ignored and

a us judge supported them instead they're spending money on marketing chevron is is continuing just a scorched earth legal political. and p.r. offensive to evade accountability while people in ecuador continue to get sick people in ecuador continue to die of oil related illness cancer this documentary rumble in the jungle examines what happened to the people who live there filmmaker greg lost says it was turned upside down then left to fend for itself just opposite their p.r. campaign in fact they impoverished and poisoned the area and the one reason it's orissa here is that chevron went in there its texture. and made it meanwhile here in the united states people continue to suffer through an economic recession unemployment rate right now ten percent almost and figure so that nearly forty million americans are living below the poverty line the entire system for

developing the welfare of its citizens under threat of dismantling by proposed cuts to social education and health care benefits. so this begs the question if the united states is really the country right now to be leading the way of development and poverty reduction around the globe in washington i'm christine for his own party. well christine joins me in the studio for a little bit more on this story now christine you know i gotta admit it's a little funny to hear that even funny it's kind of sad or perhaps ironic we were just talking about the economy the horrible jobs numbers that came out and programs are being slashed right now in america and yet they're working on welfare and more global development for other countries how they describe how do they you know what's their excuse i guess of people when people ask well there's a few different things one of them was the rights that at least twice maybe three times it's a moral obligation we have the moral obligation to go to these countries where the governments are quote not taking care of their people which i thought was the

interesting because she talked about people who are so riled up kind of going into libya people are homeless in the streets because they don't have a job because their government doesn't take care of them not like you can't point to a million places here without happening as well she also said the other excuse was this is the security reason we can't have more places like afghanistan like yemen where there are terrorists working on things plots dangerous things because they have nothing else to do we have to get in there she said and start a government and start places and make them viable for new economies to flourish she's saying rather than when she was the secretary of state we have to get in there maybe and just throw money out there with alex also bringing award i'll just bring the body also where you will corporation with you yeah she actually used the words nation building as something that needed to happen as something that's been successful in the past and use the soviet union. now i know the kind of lisa rice

used to be on the board at chevron so it seems like this is a little bit of a close maybe too close for comfort this entire situation i mean when you look at the bush administration and you know for all fairness when you look at the obama administration and sort of a close close ties with wall street you look at the bush administration of course we have president dick cheney with halliburton right before she came to serve as national security advisor and then secretary. it's a she was on the board a chevron in fact they even named one of their oil tankers after her it was called the congolese the rice pretty interesting photo when you look at it as you can see right here we have the photo says connally's arrays right there i mean you could say it's ironic but you just can't make this stuff who would want to oil tanker named after the next two right next to chevron now what else can you tell us because it seems like this entire press conference the description of this event was a little bit right it sounds like we always hear these big flowery beautiful words we hear global development we hear welfare we hear let's bring jobs to these people

but are there any details you can actually tell us about it that's the thing is this was billed as the innovative idea and this plan let's talk more about this but i called and i e-mailed and i tried to get more information from those people who were behind this the think tank c s i asked and chevron and of course dr rice and the problem is there's no specifics that are given what countries do they wanted to go to we don't know what exactly do they want to do how do they want to nation build connelly's or i said many many times free trade needs to happen more and more free trade needs to happen between us and real free trade is to happen with colombia you know she mentioned specific countries in terms of were free trade needs to take place but in terms of a specific plan this was so interesting is there just weren't any details given so it was really an hour and a half of this flowery lovey discussion and patting each other on the back and this is going to be an amazing thing but what's really going to happen we don't know but what i can tell you is that chevron and this whole project they're going to come to

taxpayers in the next few years and ask them to get involved and that's a little strange the taxpayers that are actually paying their taxes now chevron by the way is not on this list of the twelve corporations that didn't pay any taxes but i'm assuming thanks to all the corporate loopholes they're probably not paying that thirty five percent that they're supposed to but it really is incredible to have an hour long earth hour and a half long press conference and they have no country's name. no money. thank you deal with the few details out there christine thank you so much for joining us. now we're taking a break but still to come tonight cracking down on people who share their passwords for sites like netflix and rhapsody kind of hard to stay for their remember to take us to launch night school time when we have that is political crap that tonight will speak of around for from the u.k. who is making sure that actually stays alive coming up next we have our interview with a colleague. we

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