these. are going to washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture presidential republican candidate tim collins each house is a better deal plan on how to repair the nation's weak economy but are sky high taxes on middle class for me really the way to go about it. and the end may be near for u.s. troops in libya become a possible exit also declared for the nation. and the department of homeland security with the greatest job in the world protecting the home from lax protection from an expensive of the mosques.

we may be nearing an end game in the libyan war world leaders including secretary of state hillary clinton are meeting in the united arab emirates to discuss how libya could have a democratic future after could offer it read news reports out of libya suggest that gadhafi himself may be warming up to the idea of leaving power in wake of the most recent intense bombing campaign in tripoli secretary clinton acknowledged today that people close to gadhafi have expressed interest in coming up with a deal for khadafy to step down in libya and go into exile in some undisclosed african nation. today's successful contact group meeting was a powerful statement that our coalition remains united and committed we reaffirmed

there is only one way forward for libya attacks against civilians must stop gadhafi must go and the libyan people deserve to determine their own future well the details of copies departure are still unclear any kind of deal that might be worked out secretary clinton confirmed that she believes this war effort is winding down so while there may be a light at the end of the tunnel in libya another war in the arab world is escalating drone strikes have intensified recent weeks about the nation of yemen is attacks and targeted members of al qaeda and radical militants who joined the struggle top of many government currently yemen is in the midst of a revolution as that nation's president. ali abdullah saleh flood his country was serious injuries and is now being treated in saudi arabia after his presidential palace was bombed whether or not yemen will join the arab spring nations of egypt and tunisia with pro democratic revolution or radical militants will take we're

still on clear so what's the big picture here of our military involvement here not to say mission accomplished in libya even look like and what's our military's future in yemen and offer some insights on all what all of this means of drawing here in the studio by robert perry independent investigative journalist and founder and editor of consortium news and from florida ross baker author of the book family of secrets that bush dynasty and editor of the website who what why dot com robert ross welcome pleasure to have to have you both with us ross first of all the secretary of state clinton believes that the libyan war may be winding down what was our mission there and how we know if we're really successful what does that mean. you know i've been thinking about this for the last few months the way i do my reporting is i always try to put my shoe my life self in the shoes of the powerful people to figure out what i'd do if i were them it dawned on me way back when that this story started breaking that it just didn't make any sense the claim

that we were there to protect civilians the number of civilians killed by gadhafi forces are not that large is specially compared to what's going on in some of the other countries so certainly there was no consistency there but i think that the it's and we don't have to look very far beyond. simply put there is nothing more important to the people who make the national security decisions for this country then he continued insisting oil supply and i think that with the arab spring. one friendly regime after another was threatened it was only natural that they begin to look for what could be done in terms of shoring up the region now libya is right next door to egypt it has its own very substantial royal supply and i think that somebody must have had the grain store there what you needed to do was have your own arab spring and as you know on our side who what why we have an

article where we go through all of the evidence of this being essentially inspired by the national security set with the perry had the cia presence and not a little bit of goldman sachs because as i recall. they were robert the it seems like there's a clear distinction and maybe i'm just imagining this. egypt and and and and yemen we didn't bomb anybody with these are basically bottom up or at least they appear to be. growth initiatives and indeed in our tunisian army back you know we have an imminent. because that makes him a middle eastern countries whereas with these other countries we're trying to bomb our way to peace we tried that with afghanistan we tried that with iraq it doesn't seem to be working out so well are we just essentially shooting ourselves in the look what the strategy is and might this be part of this well actually let's talk

about the everlasting war a second separate question for sure i think that i think we've seen specially with the iraqis that bombing countries as the way to change them has a lot of problems beyond the human cost there is tremendous financial cost and ultimately the u.s. goals often are turn out to be failures and in the case of iraq we're seeing sort of a slow motion defeat at the end of the year the iraqis trying to send is on our way after the united states as well as forty four hundred plus american troops and maybe a trillion or more dollars in terms of expenses the united states made up with very little to gain and i agree with russ in some ways i think obviously oil and resources are very important but there are other factors too this desire to project american power into the region to take out people that are considered adversaries not just the united states but also of israel and to and to essentially establish american hegemony in that region or at least still show that america still has

a lot of power there those kinds of situations are often not advanced with these military means as we've seen with united states suffering a great deal in terms of the iraq war and the fallout from that and the afghan war two with the fallout from that so so russ is is there an analogy here between the last days of the british empire in the twenty's and thirty's and today with the united states i mean you know your thoughts and robert's concept that we're we're projecting power in the region i'm using the word empire he does. you know why that is i think it's more complicated now certainly if you look at what happened in saudi arabia the united states was able to get the british out of there back in that period but what here's what i think is going on now we need to look at a few bits and pieces that have been worried in good stories by the corporate owned media and these are the things i've been focusing on ryan is this story from the

wall street journal that goldman sachs had convinced gadhafi several years ago to invest one point three billion dollars in options and somehow i don't know how they did this but they managed to lose ninety eight percent of this from libya's sovereign wealth fund these are very important developments that are not being discussed on the next thing that happened was a year later had our feet turned to a number of western oil companies and said that he needed them to pay more in royalties because he was having trouble meeting payments including is obligation on the lockerbie bombing and that by the way is a story that i think if you look at it carefully itself well it's very confused as to whether libya was actually involved or was framed for that so he's been put in an untenable position on a whole bunch of different fronts and i think that he was angry and i think they decided that at this point this was their opportunity to get rid of him. that's

a very very lucrative but i think you're absolutely right ross and your writing on that was is absolute brilliant robert real quickly we just have a minute left the new defense authorization bill basically says that we can have a war so the last terrorist on earth is dead perpetual war how does this serve the interest is what much of it serves the interest of the american people and it may serve the interests of certain ruling elements of the american government but if it is so it's shown itself not to be very good to be american people it means more money it means a greater impact of the around the world and privately many of the things even my position is. resources in oil that's often better done through the markets rather than by trying to claim these territories is part of the american empire and doesn't actually work by the will to try to sure i'm not been produced in libya were we because the two percent of the world world been taken off the market during this conflict the last couple of months that is not a factor in driving up the price of gasoline for the average american although speculations has to be at the back of it to robert perry ross baker gentlemen thank

you both for being here and it's much appreciated slain pakistani journalists. knew better perhaps than any of the journalist in the world is likely killed over what he knew in his book inside al qaeda and the taliban published just days before he was murdered two weeks ago she zod said that our middle that our war effort the middle east following nine eleven was exactly what al qaeda was hoping for al qaeda figure that the u.s. military aggression would be just what they needed to swell their ranks with young muslims who would become filled with rage as they watched their communities destroyed by american bombs and today that u.s. military action has expanded beyond afghanistan the under rakyat in libya and even beyond yemen this is what will war looks like and it's not the way to win hearts and minds.

it appears that the republican party has gone insane house budget chairman paul ryan the guy who is working feverishly to privatized medicare is now joined a handful of other republicans who think it would be a good thing if the u.s. government defaults on its debt and interview a c.n.d. see ryan said that if our nation to call it's our debt something the most economists argue could cause a global financial meltdown it wouldn't be such a bad thing it are going to ryan quote what is more important is you are putting the government in a material believe better position to pay to better pay its bills going forward. i'm sure one of the great depression puts our nation in a materially better position and then there's tim plenty the former governor who nearly bankrupted minnesota who watched thirteen people die when under maintained bridge collapsed in his state and is now running for president if the republican battle for a presidential nomination is a race to the bottom and i think tim polanski just won with his new tax scheme the lens you just unveiled a new plan that puts the bush tax cuts on steroids tax cuts that have now ten years

later proven to be a complete economic disaster under poland his plan which will add nearly eight trillion dollars to our national debt over the next ten years people making over one million dollars a year get a forty one percent cent tax cut and people making over ten million dollars a year get a forty six percent tax cut on top of that plenty is going to lately off the rails or to get rid of capital gains taxes and estate taxes taxes that are paid almost exclusively by people like personal and how does plenty plan to give back these tax losses by shifting the tax burden to the working class that's the republican way after all isn't so what kind of illusion is taken over the republican party to make them think that they should double down on the tax cuts that have ruined our country and promote default that economists believe will crash the entire global economy and offer some answers as david so conservative commentator and federal tax practitioner an advocate they would welcome back. thank you for having me tom it's

always a pleasure to be on your program thank you david why do you and paul ryan and these other guys hate the middle class. i don't hate the middle class i'm actually a member of the middle class as my family is the most of my friends i think the issue we're here to discuss is this plan by polanski which is very interesting i don't think it goes far enough in some ways for instance right now we have an issue with charitable giving i.r.s. publication five twenty six it's very stringent guidelines if we were to just the men vats the american taxpayer would be relieved of approximately eight hundred and ten billion dollars a year and no entitlement programs would be cut we just have to allow individuals to be able to deduct one hundred percent of their charitable giving up to one hundred one hundred fifty thousand dollars and

a lot of these problems that we're dealing with with the government and this nanny state mentality were go away well i literally overnight david what you're suggesting is that working people in the middle you know the median income in the united states forty four thousand dollars a year it's not a lot average income is forty two i think that people making that kind of money who are you know very much living paycheck to paycheck in this country these days. if they get sick and their insurance doesn't cover everything and they you know instead of put it can down at the local seven eleven you know pay for so and so as transplant operation that if rich people get full tax cuts for any charitable giving it that's going to solve our problem we no longer need you know health and national health insurance or disappear you know social security disability that's not what i'm talking about at all but what i would like to make very clear is a lot of these programs these very good programs and these entitlement programs that the government funds and it ministrations costs about fifty cents on every

dollar that the taxpayer pays over and that's because it goes this very circuitous route. by allowing the private sector and various charitable organizations untrammelled access to these funds they can do an awful lot more good if you get a service code for a well up we can depend on the rich people to save us rather than our country can you identify any country in the world that has successfully cut their way to prosperity or has become prosperous simply by regal right by relying i'm very very wealthy. no tom i think you're taking the issue out of context and i can just one coast that's not really what i'm advocating here what i am advocating is financial responsibility and wide spread tax cuts mentioned the other night complete tax abatements for people thirty and under as a great way of jumpstarting are ok but we're talking about sending the lebanese

suggestion that people making over a million should get a forty percent forty two percent of people who get over ten million should get a forty six percent tax cut and and you're defending that i believe and you know if you generally speaking are talking as i am and isn't that just a way to trash the economy so that in two thousand and twelve president obama will be running in the middle of a disaster an economic disaster and to lose the election well let's be very clear about things right now we are teetering carious lay on the precipice of an economic disaster and it has to be corrected and to correct it what we need is our economy the motor of our economy to really start humming and unfortunately with the tax burdens presently in force and this overwhelming regulation and administrative problems it was state of the eye is the eight years of the bush administration didn't add regulations they cut regulations and during the clinton administration when taxes were higher on rich people he created twenty three million jobs bush cut

taxes and created three million jobs you telling me that we need more taxes. yes but i'm also telling you we need to learn from our past mistakes and look forward we have to solve our problems in the immediacy and long term it's not enough for us to be armchair quarterbacks looking back and saying well this was tried and it failed and just abandoning data or respond to it we're out of time but i'm totally with you we should learn from the past and we should look at the prosperity that we have here at the sixty's seventy's and eighty's when it's up to x. rates were ninety one and seventy four percent any of david thank you for by disagree with. it is you do is absurd task as simple as he also has his googles as proposal requires the federal government to stop offering services that could be offered by private companies i'm google considering that you can find a private company on google to do just about anything from wage war to educate kids

to provide health care to seniors to lunch he is basically kicking the government out of the country these ideas will fundamentally remake our nation turning us into the libertarian paradise of somalia so if change in abject poverty what you're looking for plenty of. time for our daily poll your chance to tell us what you think here's today's question will you get any traction with the outrageous tax cut he's trying to push your choices are yes and get this he will offset those tax cuts by shifting the tax burden to the working class or no no one will fall for his new tax scheme going to an army dot com let us know what you think poll be open till tomorrow morning. coming up is the department of homeland security really looking into all terrorist threats facing america or just the ones coming from muslims but it why domestic terror threats may be slipping through the cracks.

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well may seem like our government's number one priority is keeping america safe from terrorism truth is in many ways it's dropping the ball sure when it comes to islamic terrorism we have dozens of eyes surveyed every little piece of intelligence agents all over the world tracking muslims when it comes to homegrown domestic terrorism it seems like nobody at the department of homeland security knows what the heck is going on that's because since two thousand and nine d.a.'s v.h.s. has taken x. to its own intelligence agency how do you know the guys who specialize in looking for domestic terror threats and focusing solely on islamic terror in fact there hasn't been a detailed report of the threat of homegrown terrorism in. three years from v.h.s. that's despite the fact that a new department homeland security study conducted last year on the eighty six major four year old were executed terrorist attacks in the united states between one thousand nine hundred ninety two thousand and nine found that the majority of those attacks were not affiliated at all or any allied groups and non-governmental

groups like the southern poverty law center are saying that the threat of domestic terror is higher today than it's been in the last few decades and just this last year numerous terror threats have emerged from muslims in america neo nazi was arrested for trying to blow up an ok day parade six members of an alaskan militia group were arrested for plotting to kill police officers and it was consul lone wolf was arrested for trying to kill planned parenthood workers that's just to name a few so why is the department of homeland security missing this glaring threat to america your offer some answers on this issue is mark potok director of the it's all of the intelligence project at the southern poverty law center mark welcome back to look thanks so much for having me again mark what happened in two thousand and nine why do the department of homeland security suddenly turn a blind eye to domestic terror and to extend that did they actually do that or did they just stop talking about it. well here's what happened in april two thousand

and nine the department after us several months earlier putting out a report on left wing extremism just barely existed but in you know in the interest of the p.r. and even handed they came out with a report on right wing extremism and said they had their findings were very similar to our own independent findings essentially what the department set or what this report said was the radical right has grown explosive plate that this was due largely to the election of a black president and a collapsing economy and it went on to point out several things that set for instance one of the dangers comes from single issue extremists concerned with issues like abortion and immigration it also mentioned in passing that extremist this is certainly true our own research shows as well that extremists were interested in recruiting returning war veterans from afghanistan and iraq the thought being that these are man who have you know very high and paramilitary

skills whatsoever they was he was returning or other from the frets right in effect but he wasn't recruited i mean these guys are looking to find people with the skills presumably to fight coming race war etc etc in any event this report was meant for want horsman agencies all around the country was confidential or produce immediately leaked and what happened was that almost instantaneously the political right the american legion michelle malkin the columnists pete hoekstra the congressman any number of other people on the political right attacked the report saying that it painted off betterments people opposed to in a you know high levels of immigration or to abortion in effect all conservatives in this country as potential timothy mcveigh case now you know having read the report at the time that is ludicrous the report was carefully written and simply well so that it demonized these groups but in any event this list that picture that was.

centered with a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth by the political right and what happened was that secretary napolitano the d.h.s.s. secretary defended the report for a few days and that basically completely backtracked it was a bad report it had gone through we adopted and got through the authorized channels and then approved you know it was essentially a rogue document that had been released and should repudiate it and she actually made a big apology to the american legion and in my own view you know what really occurred was that the department simply was frightened off by the criticism of the baseless criticism of the political right and ultimately what occurred in this we just put out a i think a very explosive q. and a with a former top domestic terrorism or not islamic domestic terrorism analyst at p.h.s. a man named carol johnson who said what happened was the department essentially

imploded his team of six analysts is now a single person they have as you said have not put out a single substantive report since april two thousand and nine and you know hafter darrell went public with these comments you know he's gotten justin's messages from other people that want to force winfield saying you're absolutely right it's a shame what's happening out there at the washington post and i think a very important story on carol in which the post reporter applause all around the country and talked to many other people who had been in the now since section of the h.s. he talked to people at the so-called fusion centers there are seventy two of these centers around the country that are state local and federal law enforcement cooperating on these kinds of intelligence issues you know and many of the people out of the fusion centers that you know it's a disaster that's happening so you're right i mean what you said in the intro is

especially right. so this is due to political pressure this was not this is just a matter of v.h.s. just saying you know ok glenn beck you know we're not going to you know because he and fox seem to be leading the charge it's not a matter of they're just saying that their bag you know they actually did back off the flip side of this is is the media and and i saw this report today about how the drudge report is is resembling a white power website and it was pointed out by the white power website in the minute we have left mark tell us about this well we were out of dog item on this i mean this is a group called the council of conservative citizens you know group that has described black people as a retrograde species of humanity and saying my goodness look at the drudge report looks just like our headlines well and indeed that is the case you know i don't find it terribly surprising to drudge seems to move ever further to the right. and

you know essentially they're the kind of you know black people are criminal savages that's what you see. on the united states is that a forty year low but there's a certain let's at a forty year of the quiet in the united states sure and yet you're still looking to still have a serious are all yeah these are all stereotypical scares right you know big black men are coming for your daughter i mean that's essentially the tone of. drug seems to have picked up in a rather hearty way yes and no coincidence that it has to do with has anybody noticed there's a black eye in the white house since mark potok and great research are doing on this and southern poverty law center thanks so much for being with us. well tom thanks so much for having me paula department of homeland security has been dropping the ball on investigating about hate groups conservative web sites like the drudge report as pointed out have come to resemble those of domestic hate groups as alex sets wall over at think progress noted today matt drudge often uses

web sites is it just that a racial rhyme wave is sweeping across the nation and that white people should be scared to death despite the fact that crime as i noted is that a forty year low one group that took notice of drudge is a web site is an actual hate group the white supremacist council of conservative citizens which recently boasted this was one of their headlines quote drudge report currently resembles c of c c dot or their website see if c.c. is probably previously claimed as mark pointed out that black people are a retrograde species of humanity so not exactly the type of people you want to resemble but leave it to america's republican partisans like the drudge report to find bedfellows with right wing extremists. crazy alert that's not a bold it's a mascot and i'm like taking website who's slogan is where romance meets finance and we specializes in bringing together generous men looking to spoil and dynamic

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