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lol. welcome to the lower show going to get the real headlines with none of the mercy or come alive in washington d.c. now today will take a look at a new investigation that shows general david petraeus fudging numbers calling innocent civilians members of the taliban also talk about oscar grant's killer being released from prison and how the community is reacting adult find out what the he'll a party is all about but first let's take a little look at what the mainstream media has decided to devote their coverage to moments in the real story.
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now you'd think that after two weeks of nonstop coverage the media would start getting sick of weiner gate but otoh they are marching on actually they're hanging on to every single new picture that's really every word of disapproval to every little thing that nobody else in the world really cares about. the big news from coast to coast for years the white house saying president obama believes new york congressman anthony weiner's actions have been you know appropriate and a distraction here was. how do you get from gee i feel badly for this guy pretty well once. calling for him to consult out of congress paychecks papers around the country today as they always do in washington in new york this is a big story but across the country it's not you know it's not quite as big so is this truly will this become
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a liability to the democrats if congressman weiner does not step down chair of the d.n.c. would not be doing this without the white house saying it was ok so at this point when the head of the democratic party is saying he's got to resign that's a proxy gosh what do you think that means when only the newspapers. new york make the anthony weiner scandal front page news that means that nobody else cares i mean the wiener gate doesn't affect them the way the unemployment rising food prices and endless wars do so here we go again with that d.c. new york. that exists solely to feed off itself and the police only itself how about we talk about something that is real news that's worth analyzing that should it make us all take a little minutes and look inward it's now been forty years since the pentagon papers are released and you can easily call it the biggest leak in case of whistle blowing in u.s. history and it's all the more important because of the wiki leaks scandal that we see in this country today but the mainstream media thought that talking about anthony wiener. was way more important so they just gave the pentagon papers
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a nice little thirty second blurb. the breach that sparked a firestorm in the nixon administration and now forty years later to the day the u.s. government is releasing all seven thousand pages of the pentagon papers meanwhile forty years after the leak of a top secret pentagon papers led to a landmark supreme court case and triggered the nixon white house plumbers group that ended up in gaging in watergate the full report has been declassified all seven thousand pages now at least i did national archives. really that's all you got how they are talking about bradley manning in his confinement did you know the government's case against daniel ellsberg where they tried to charge him with espionage conspiracy and all that fell apart because of government misconduct because they tap his phone illegally and they broke into his psychiatry's office to steal his records and yes all of that was wrong but all that pales in comparison to keeping a man locked up in solitary confinement for ten months and then forcing him to
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strip naked and not allowing him to sleep well mention of that in the press no mention of the fact that the information that daniel ellsberg leaked was classified as top secret that's a higher classification level than everything that we can fix put out there you can't possibly tell me that we're reporting on daniel ellsberg and the legacy of the pentagon papers you can at least think for one second of the parallels between that history between the present the questions that it should raise above the about the government's conduct so maybe the mainstream media is just you know putting that one off for a slow news day but you're right that's something a big they don't want to touch it's something that their content to completely miss . now here is another story of the media isn't covering today according to the u.n. may of two thousand and eleven was the deadliest month for afghan civilians since the war there began and summer when fighting and the resulting casualties take up
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is just beginning it's not the message the pentagon why. could be sending as they try to sell success before withdrawal process begins in july but is it one thing for our military commanders to simply not mention any bad news and another for them to feed the media lies a new investigation looks at claims by general david petraeus made last year and they claim the success of special ops rates and capturing members of the taliban and the summer of two thousand and ten petraeus stated that forty one hundred rank and file taliban have been captured and two thousand have been killed in six months what he did say is that eighty percent of those had been released within days of being captured because they were found to have been innocent civilians and that's all according to official u.s. military data which surprised surprise had not been publicized by the general so here the scotts that's right with me is gareth porter investigative journalist and author of this report gary thanks so much for being here tonight what more can you tell us in terms of reference there in terms of what we were told or what congress
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was told in the meeting i was told by general petraeus virus is that what you actually found in these official military documents or this story really begins when petrou was just having been named commander for u.s. troops and nato troops in afghanistan starts his round of media interviews. of two thousand the first thing he does almost is to declassify a set of data showing that special operations forces are having almost superhuman success in killing and capturing telegram and so he puts out figures initially for the ninety days from may through july that says that the so if we night raids have captured one thousand three hundred fifty five taliban well i mean that's turns out to be a lie because when you find the task force in charge of detainee affairs and if there is to put out a month by month. accounting for how many of the detainees were brought to the main
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detention center where they have to be brought within fourteen days of their capture you for. and out that the room the two hundred seventy who went into the detention facility during those ninety days that's about twenty percent of what he said were telegrams and this is information that clearly that the general can see himself when do we know whether he saw these numbers and you know these people were being released or did he honestly think hey look at how many people we've slipped up and they never bothered to follow up well i doubt very much i'd be bothered if he didn't bother to follow up and for one reason i talked to his public affairs officer a few weeks after he made the statement a letter let out information and she admitted yes this is for initial detention which means that they knew perfectly well but there was a big disparity between the people who they picked up they swept up in these raids and how many people were actually considered to be taught now i guess that none of this should really shock us right especially if we look at general petraeus as
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a man himself we've reported many times on this show he is his outlook for the statements that he gives his thesis or he is the kind of man thinks that the way to win a war with way to sell of war is just by convincing the lawmakers of one thing no matter what's going on in the ground it's about selling it to them and making them think that it's going all right but how available then was this information to congress not to do their job could they have looked at these documents to follow up and see if what he says in testimony or in the media is actually true the first thing that should have happened was that the media should have done some fact checking they did i mean it's very difficult if not impossible to check the number of taliban who were actually killed in these raids but which you can check is how many were actually detained for any length of time as opposed to being let go in the first few days because they didn't have any evidence and indeed that didn't happen but then in november the head of this military task force rule here we've actually made a statement in
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a in the pentagon press briefing in which he said in the last ten months of this year there were. five thousand five hundred people who were initially detained but only one thousand one hundred actually showed up in the detention center well that was a big clue the media didn't pick up on it all so there was no fact finding for the entire year and congress had no way of getting any clues about what was going on now let's talk about what it means to actually be brought to let's say airbase and then to be released it's not like this is a place where there is a lot of justice that some of these people get some kind of legal representation and a full investigation is done and we know that there are hundreds of detainees out bob graham the haven't seen any type of process in that sense so you really have to have absolutely nothing anywhere near your record in order to get released that easily absolutely right i mean there is no real due process there is no process which allows the defense advocate to make the case on behalf of the detainees
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nothing like that so you're absolutely right that the notion that somebody is let free because of something you know in consequential just doesn't doesn't make any sense in fact the criteria for holding them are so broad but it's very easy to keep these people in detention for a long time so the fact that twenty percent of those detainees who were cycled through the detention center were actually released after review of their files means that they just didn't have anything now do we actually have any idea how many hundreds of people are still being attained or they've also reported on the show about the other secret prisons across afghanistan even though the cia black sites have been shut down there still are now secret other black sites that just don't have to be operated by the cia they might be operated by by special ops or something like that because americans often here are not in here but we know about guantanamo bay that's something that is easy to pinpoint we know that we're
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detaining people that we're not giving them any kind of justice but what about this . graham we know that as of february there were fifteen hundred some detainees it's going to go up a month by month little by little in addition to that we know that in a number of forward operating bases obviously special operations forces detains these people for a number of days for fourteen days but the absolute rule is that within fourteen days they have to release them were send them to bagram to the main detention facility and maybe somebody is violating the rules very possible but that is an ironclad rule for u.s. forces now of course if we look at the timing right now we're about to we're waiting for the president to make an announcement as to how many troops are going to start leaving afghanistan we keep trying to be sold or at least people like defense secretary robert gates keep trying to tell us that we can't leave but yet we do see momentum of course success is fragile yet reversible or at least our
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momentum is so this is a big deal your investigation or have you heard anything back from petraeus people from the pentagon why is it all of the media calling you on the phone right now but on the first of all i i wrote an e-mail to the public affairs officer who i spoke with or talked by e-mail with last year she didn't respond for two days to my queries so i don't know exactly what that means but apparently they were interested in saying anything about this story no response from the news media as far as i know of so for this is a story like many others this sort of drops out. too bad because really we need somebody to be asking tough questions of general petraeus before this major decision comes up next month about how many troops will be withdrawn because he's going to be putting massive pressure on the white house to minimize this withdrawal and then of course if he comes out of the cia that's frankly bad because this is now america's longest war because people are losing lives this actually makes a difference and not so much as we care thank you so much for coming on our show
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we're happy accompanist thank you of. now. coming off the group anon is back in going after a major figure in finance here in the us and a police officer sent to prison for shooting and killing oscar grant in california is now a free man that's my last name justice was really served when this officer only spent eleven months in jail for killing an unarmed man back in just a month. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then he lives something else and here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. earlier. and yet though.
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or never governor says they're for him safely get ready because if your freedom. but it appears as if the political hacking group anonymous is not only back because let's admit we haven't seen too much of them in a while but they've also set their eyes on quite a lofty target federal chairman federal reserve chairman ben bernanke eight now not as a long criticized bernanke gave the failing u.s. economy and they asked for his resignation in the past but since he didn't comply they're now going to launch another operation. mr. resignation comes for the rumors are true mr bernanke. like
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a request was targeted from the military trying to reach out for europe which can feel. comfortable republican field. is defending our interests and it's time for us to stand up for ourselves it is time for you to stand up for yourself we must. comply or state. now for operation empire state rebellion anon as calling on americans to protest on june fourteenth and hopes of realizing their original request for bernanke you to resign but you see this operation is about much more than just the protests which is happening on flag day also has the following demands to end the campaign finance and lobbying racket to break up the fed's relationship with those too big to fail banks and to enforce the longstanding racketeering influenced and corrupt organizations or rico act the law against an
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organized criminal class and all their website they've also included them out in pointing to cities where you can join the rebellion so the plans of the late the real question here is will anybody show up and on is definitely not the only group and not the first group to call for a change in our financial system to call for some accountability and whereas before their operations are based soley on their own actions now they're depending on others. keep an eye on operation empire state rebellion and i will see if anon can bring out the masses and make a difference. how you how honest messer lead officer who was convicted of shooting and killing an unarmed young black man named oscar grant on a bart subway platform is now a free man it's a case that few can forget as the entire incident was caught on camera. after serving a less than a year in prison for
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a two year involuntary manslaughter conviction messily was released just after midnight on monday from l.a. county jail but the anger and the feelings of injustice in both oakland and los angeles haven't subsided yet yesterday hundreds of demonstrators marched in oakland today dozens massed in front of the los angeles criminal court building. now that specific video was from oakland and what made that approach as different as it was peaceful it's not the same scene we saw last year when more than one hundred people were arrested after hearing the judge's convictions. i am. so let's change the way the community highlights this case and is there any chance
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of the obama justice department might step in trying to discuss this is paid eighteen hip-hop journalist david thanks so much for joining us tonight now you were at a protest in oakland yesterday from what i understand and there were hundreds of people marching like i just mentioned last year right after we saw when that's really was convicted there were people that were arrested about seventy eight people then in november when the sentencing was put out there we saw more than one hundred fifty people arrested in oakland and we saw violence we saw people looting like we said and from any other parts that i see now i didn't see any arrests i didn't see any violence yesterday so what's changed. well people are still committed people are still angry there was a couple of the rest yesterday but i think what it is is that folks been really concentrating on different tactics i mean there's been meetings with the justice department but there's a recall effort to get rid of judge perry even though he's in los angeles and i
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think people or really trying to sell a different way to make this move not only statewide but nationalized because obviously. symbolizes a problem the systemic seems to be taking place weekly all over the united states one of the things we found out yesterday that since there's been ten in the bay area alone there's been a large number of police shootings that are very questionable in the fairly amongst the immigrant community we find is going on in other states or in a lot of these things don't have the type of coverage because it wasn't caught on film it cetera et cetera so i think people are really about movement building in a different sort of way ok. anger and frustration and more importantly the determination to see this to see justice prevail is still there i'm just curious to how was the city preparing for this because last year we of course we saw swat teams lease our police are in riot gear and have because the police presence
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yesterday the police presence was pretty big but there's a couple of things that i think need to be put into context of the riot situ soar last year when the. verdict was announced in many were in many people's opinion including mine who is in a little of it the police really forced to not only do they have large numbers of people a large number of police from different municipalities but we're the more choose in the demonstrators have taken place they will walled in on all sorts and for those of us who were there when people were asked to disperse and people walked up east on the east side of the area they were blocked when they were when you had the direction they were blocked and so they were being boxed in and eventually because the type of situation that she later saw or you know with windows being broken instead should search it so it's not it wasn't the same type of situation yesterday the police were there but i think also marchers were also prepared with contingency
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plans as well in case they did get. now obviously there's a lot of anger there because you know a young man here at last as like he was killed and that's something that can never be brought back but i'm just curious to know what do you think that says about our justice system where this police officer spent eleven months in jail at the end of the day michael vick spent more time in jail for abusing dogs. even closer call burris who showed him still spent more time in jail. i think that pretty many people were unhappy but surprisingly people weren't disillusioned they knew their judge robert perry was somebody who was favored by the police. to lessen their judges count. the only problem that we had is that this particular judge is in los angeles one hundred miles away from oakland we are we don't really have jurisdiction over him but i think the l.a. activists clearly understand we also understand that there is a love relationship with many people with the police no matter what they do they're
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going to give them the benefit of the doubt so this education that we have to have that goes on near it needs to be more awareness and i think that took place in oakland if you look at the makeup of the marches a lot of asians a lot of people on the lachine on ground communities or lot of white folks a lot of young white students who learn firsthand that the police aren't always in their corner it's the way that they like to kick in so many people understand it's unlikely they're going to respond politically i think they'll respond by taking it to the streets in ways in which to bring about awareness and more importantly folks however that have a result of that i think makes us very proud to be from the city of oakland to be from the bay area they will not give up this is not all good no matter what gets said no matter how much it doesn't get coverage people are going to see justice for you know a lot well that's the thing where you bring up how much the story does or doesn't get covered this is a big story like you said is a systemic problem this is something we've seen span across a number of states in this country and it's something of the activists have not let
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girl in california either and yet we're gay has been top news for about the last few weeks and continue to be so today on the media when he does that say well the biggest eye opening education that we've got was seeing how there are pundits natura self included i think we can if you major props because you always covered this here let's speech to your journalistic integrity but there were many people that have the microphone to get on t.v. they can speak they know about this that last year they were talking about le bron james and what team he's going to play or this year they were talking about whether the look on james will get a rick. in trust me many people took note we knew the civil rights leaders who were talking about it we knew the people who are blogging and now bragging about it so there were many people the color lines of the world the racial looseness of the world they were people that was the youth radio's of the world those of folks that were underground that there were many people that were actually in people took no
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notice said what he said did many people hustling for social justice maybe for speaking maybe to get their name up in weight but this is very serious business people lost lives there were many parents many families some spoke yesterday who lost their lives at the end of the police and when you look around the legal release civil rights organizations speaking on our behalf if you turn on the t.v. you know talking about the bron james that's. what it said to us is that we will have to be our own leaders and we cultivated leadership here and i think it's good leadership that will last you know that will stand the test of time and that's a good thing although it was unfortunate for us to have to learn this lesson the hard way that many of the people who took the game on fear for us when it really counts are dave i want to thank you very much for joining us and it is a more important story all the more reason to cover it but i also am happy that i didn't get thanks so much and i. need to take it thank you very much learn. how the
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f.b.i. has been in the headlines quite a bit recently we reported to you the president obama is aiming to send f.b.i. director robert mueller is turned parking more years breaking the ten year limitation and possibly setting a very dangerous precedent and here's another game changing story you story for coming from the bureau up there is going to be a modified and updated manual for the mystic investigations an operations guy so while there are several changes made we want to point out at least the five areas that have been revised and frankly let me quite a bit concerned for starters what f.b.i. agent wants to lodge an investigation into a person or an organization they have to create an assessment to follow protocol now once this. lowlevel access is granted to the agent they can gain access to certain pieces of information about them but with the revisions to the manual an agent is now able to search a database for quote pro active presence so that means they can go through a database without having any probable cause they can do it just to make sure nothing unusual is found and they don't need to make
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a record of these types of searches now the topic of assessments the new rules say that an agent can tail an individual more than once during a proactive assessment so that means they can follow a person without probable cause then keep tabs on them until they actually do something to warrant some type of investigation from the f.b.i. another revision of the manual says that any supervision of investigations conducted on quote low profile blogs meaning not media related will be stopped so in other words if the average joe decides to write something on his blog the feds find suspicious there won't be any protection to ensure that the feds are conducting their investigation or assessment accurately now there are also changes when it comes to administering lie detector tests currently agents need to open a preliminary investigation before using that technique under these new or of agents the test can be used when the feds are just evaluating a target as a potential informant and apparently the president have to ask to be able to search through a person's trash so they can use whatever dirt they find on that person to get them
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to help in an investigation of someone or an organization now these are a few key points that really stick out but i have to ask here is they would also out there find these revisions to be a little disturbing and the threats go already have enough power to enter into your private life often without warrants think g.p.s. tracking now you want to give them more abilities to do it without consent or supervision from their higher ups i bring you specific instances almost on a weekly basis organizations and activists are being targeted by the government and now the updated manual seems to only give the feds more leeway to conduct those pro active investigations however they see fit and in fact when asked about all of these changes that guy's general counsel valerie propriety says that it's too cumbersome to require agents to. informal inquiries before writing checks oh really is it too cumbersome for you to have to respect people's privacy and the law i'm sorry you're right let's just make your work easier you know maybe mr prodi is forgetting the way the justice system is supposed to work in this country you know that old saying innocence until proven guilty but while there's already an outcry
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growing from former f.b.i. agents and activists alike seems that the bureau is moving full speed ahead with these changes unless somebody like the president decides to put his foot down which we know he won't considering his take on warrantless almost everything so looks like welcoming a whole new level to our already growing police state now still ahead on tonight's show you said it i read it i responded to your comments that you've left online about the show and we already have the tea party in the coffee party so now let's make way for the thick heel of party i'll speak with a woman who is spearheading the group about their political message in just a moment. including we're doing. a google we're going to bring justice or accountability. i have a right to know what my government you want to know why i care that. we could do was obama as the.
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